Pay but does not show up to draft. (1 Viewer)

[whitem0nkey]

Last year was the first time someone did not show up after paying in my main big league. I collect the $ two weeks before the draft just so we have everyone committed or else I look for a replacement owner. so I made a new rule this year, let me know if its fair, or if someone has a better suggestion.

If you pay but do not show up to the draft this is how it will be handled.you will have these specific positions taken per round.round 1 - RB1round 2 - QB1round 3 - WR1round 4 - RB2round 5 - WR2round 6 - TE1round 7 - WR3round 8 - RB3round 9 - QB2round 10 - WR4round 11 - TE2round 1 2 - DEF1round 13 - RB4round 1 4 - K1round 15 - WR5round 1 6 - DEF2-we will use the Yahoo free rankings and draft the "best" (closest to #1) player regardless of injury based on the above positions.

 

[NinerK]

Last year was the first time someone did not show up after paying in my main big league. I collect the $ two weeks before the draft just so we have everyone committed or else I look for a replacement owner. so I made a new rule this year, let me know if its fair, or if someone has a better suggestion.

If you pay but do not show up to the draft this is how it will be handled.you will have these specific positions taken per round.round 1 - RB1round 2 - QB1round 3 - WR1round 4 - RB2round 5 - WR2round 6 - TE1round 7 - WR3round 8 - RB3round 9 - QB2round 10 - WR4round 11 - TE2round 1 2 - DEF1round 13 - RB4round 1 4 - K1round 15 - WR5round 1 6 - DEF2-we will use the Yahoo free rankings and draft the "best" (closest to #1) player regardless of injury based on the above positions.

We have out of state owners so online is always an option. If they can't do that they need to send someone to draft for them. The last option is Best Player Overall in the CBS Sportsline Draft Room.I see the logic of the way your league is doing it, at least drafting a "balanced" team for the missing owner but I think even this is too much.Who's going to be in charge of this round by round list? Having drafted for an owner last year; even this would drive me nuts. Our rule is if you can't draft online, in person or send a proxy; you get BPA. YOUR FAULT if you end up with 4QB/2RB/3WR/5TE/3DST/4K

 

[whitem0nkey]

This is a live draft, so any online options are off the table.

 

[texasbirdfan]

This is a live draft, so any online options are off the table.

cell phone anyone.I have actually picked the last few spots in live drafts before by phoning it in.It looks like on the above example that the no shows get quite a good break imo. I would be harsher, like no first round pick.

 

[NinerK]

This is a live draft, so any online options are off the table.

Live drafts are the best for sure. You can still use BPA though. Seriously, it sounds like it would be extremeley annoying to be in the 12th round and "ok, dooshbag McGillicutti needs a #3 TE, let me look at those".......while you are trying to find the ULTIMATE Sleeper #4 WR.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Interesting. I wonder, removing trades and waiver moves from the equation, if a team drafted in that fashion would have an equal chance of winning the league as the other teams?

In a snake draft, the two largest differentiators would probably be draft spot (assuming serpentine) and the inability to draft value at another position.

If that team got the number 1 pick, and was able to draft RB1 (ADP), and then best available WR and QB at the turn, I would like its chances. That said, the inherent flaws of a serpentine draft are even more obvious in this situation. Guy can basically pay, not show up for the draft, and then possibly based on their draft spot still have a good team. That's a little weak, IMO. But chances of that happening two years in a row must be slim.

 

[NinerK]

This is a live draft, so any online options are off the table.

cell phone anyone.I have actually picked the last few spots in live drafts before by phoning it in.It looks like on the above example that the no shows get quite a good break imo. I would be harsher, like no first round pick.

Excellent point about no show getting good break. What happens when he is "auto drafted" Manning in round 2 and the next guy in line was going to take him? Sucks on ICE for the dude that is committed to the league.

 

[Balance]

i hate incendets like this.

 

[Sweet Love]

This is a live draft, so any online options are off the table.

cell phone anyone.I have actually picked the last few spots in live drafts before by phoning it in.It looks like on the above example that the no shows get quite a good break imo. I would be harsher, like no first round pick.

Excellent point about no show getting good break. What happens when he is "auto drafted" Manning in round 2 and the next guy in line was going to take him? Sucks on ICE for the dude that is committed to the league.

True, but you HAVE to maintain the integrity of the league (especially if you have divisions). In the case mentioned above, if Manning was available as per auto draft, who knows whether or not he would have taken him. If you penalize the guy too harshly, you end up with an weak team out of the gate and if you have divisions (where they play him twice, versus others maybe only playing him once), you have now tipped the scales. I actually like the OPs solution...we will make a team for you, just maybe not who you would have selected...the obvious beneficiaries are those who pick immediately before and after the absentee.

 

[Tigerbot Hesh]

I think you take the BPA according to a predetermined list (yahoo, sportsline, espn, FBGs). It's nice to try and draft him a decent team, but if the owner if AWOL then that's his fault. And if the owner is a big enough clown to miss the draft, he's probably a big enough clown to second guess the choices you make and then complain about that. Drafting the BPA according to a list eliminates all subjectivity.

 

[Dragon1952]

This is a live draft, so any online options are off the table.

cell phone anyone.I have actually picked the last few spots in live drafts before by phoning it in.It looks like on the above example that the no shows get quite a good break imo. I would be harsher, like no first round pick.

Excellent point about no show getting good break. What happens when he is "auto drafted" Manning in round 2 and the next guy in line was going to take him? Sucks on ICE for the dude that is committed to the league.

True, but you HAVE to maintain the integrity of the league (especially if you have divisions). In the case mentioned above, if Manning was available as per auto draft, who knows whether or not he would have taken him. If you penalize the guy too harshly, you end up with an weak team out of the gate and if you have divisions (where they play him twice, versus others maybe only playing him once), you have now tipped the scales. I actually like the OPs solution...we will make a team for you, just maybe not who you would have selected...the obvious beneficiaries are those who pick immediately before and after the absentee.

As mentioned, you also penalize the persons picking after him, assuming they may be targeting someone he gets by 'default', that he ordinarily wouldn't choose. It's like the mockdraftcentral AI (artificial intelligence) teams that screw up the draft. I would hate to study my ### off and have a plan, and then have it screwed up like that.

 

[Pictus Cat]

I would pick a list at random, Yahoo, FBG, CBS, whatever.

Don't let the other know which list until the end of the draft, that eliminates most of the advantage for people drafting near him.

I would not list the positions to be drafted.

Have someone draft for him of the list.

As long as they can fill in the roster spots and go by the list, it's all good.

The guy had something more important than the draft.

He can name his team after the list that was used at the end of the draft. Experts make them you know.

 

[Dragon1952]

I don't think he deserves an elite QB. Let him take a QB in the 5th or 6th.

 

[perry147]

We had one guy not show up because of a work related IT issue. This was not some paper jam but a complete server crash due to hard drive failure that brought down a production machine.

 

[NinerK]

This is a live draft, so any online options are off the table.

cell phone anyone.I have actually picked the last few spots in live drafts before by phoning it in.It looks like on the above example that the no shows get quite a good break imo. I would be harsher, like no first round pick.

Excellent point about no show getting good break. What happens when he is "auto drafted" Manning in round 2 and the next guy in line was going to take him? Sucks on ICE for the dude that is committed to the league.

True, but you HAVE to maintain the integrity of the league (especially if you have divisions). In the case mentioned above, if Manning was available as per auto draft, who knows whether or not he would have taken him. If you penalize the guy too harshly, you end up with an weak team out of the gate and if you have divisions (where they play him twice, versus others maybe only playing him once), you have now tipped the scales. I actually like the OPs solution...we will make a team for you, just maybe not who you would have selected...the obvious beneficiaries are those who pick immediately before and after the absentee.

Very true re: divisions. That's why we don't have them. That lasted 1 year in our league of 9 years. As for penalizing "too harshly"...I dunno, I would hope the guy attends the next year or quits. Also, it might encourage trades/FA action. He'd be at a disadvantage there too, but I bet it would be the last time he does a no show.Send a proxy, use a phone......anything but not show up.

 

[NinerK]

We had one guy not show up because of a work related IT issue. This was not some paper jam but a complete server crash due to hard drive failure that brought down a production machine.

Wow, that is horrible, how did your league handle the situation?I suppose my contribution here has been too harsh. The issues we have dealt with in our league have not been work/life related. One dude just HAD to go to an A's / Yankees game and would have been kicked out if we could have found a replacment.Last year we had not one but two people that had bachelor parties/weddings on the draft weekend. I drafted for one, the other owner called in his first 8 picks of 16 rounds so that was ok. But this year we implemented the rule that NO OWNER can draft for you. Not even off a list similar to the OP. It is too distracting for everybody and bogs up the draft.As for perry147's situation, I don't know what we would do, but at least now it is in the constitution that last option is for BPA regardless of position. And if that happens to someone at least he knows the rules and knows none of us were intentionally trying to screw his draft.

 

[perry147]

We had one guy not show up because of a work related IT issue. This was not some paper jam but a complete server crash due to hard drive failure that brought down a production machine.

Wow, that is horrible, how did your league handle the situation?I suppose my contribution here has been too harsh. The issues we have dealt with in our league have not been work/life related. One dude just HAD to go to an A's / Yankees game and would have been kicked out if we could have found a replacment.Last year we had not one but two people that had bachelor parties/weddings on the draft weekend. I drafted for one, the other owner called in his first 8 picks of 16 rounds so that was ok. But this year we implemented the rule that NO OWNER can draft for you. Not even off a list similar to the OP. It is too distracting for everybody and bogs up the draft.As for perry147's situation, I don't know what we would do, but at least now it is in the constitution that last option is for BPA regardless of position. And if that happens to someone at least he knows the rules and knows none of us were intentionally trying to screw his draft.

We called around and found a friend of a friend who would draft the team. We gave the team for free to the new guy and paid the money back to the guy who prepaid for it. It was a $50 league and not something expensive. The owners were kind of upset about giving the new guy a team for free but how "right" would it have been to make him pay for the team when he only learned the scoring system, roster, starting lineup, etc. about 45 minutes before we started drafting. We knew it was not intentional on the original guys part so we let it slide and he came back the next year.

 

[brutha]

i hate incendets like this.

word depends on why he didn't show, but almost anything short of a medical emerg he should have called and so IMO any method you use is fair, including just giving him whatever scrubs are left after the draft is over.

 

[NinerK]

i hate incendets like this.

word depends on why he didn't show, but almost anything short of a medical emerg he should have called and so IMO any method you use is fair, including just giving him whatever scrubs are left after the draft is over.

Reminds me of my first ever FF draft....dude called in his picks from the hospital bed.

 

[Pickle Rody]

I run an 8-year old keeper league. We pay our dues in March for the up-coming year. Original member notified me two weeks ago that he wasn't sure if he could make the draft as he might have to work. I said, "BS, you've known about the date for 6+ months and you are now telling me you can't make it? You didn't put in to have off?" I told him to show up on his own, have a proxy drafter show up to draft his team for him or expect to lose the team. We actually have rules in place to deter anyone from going AWOL. When reminded of this, he back-pedaled and said he'd see what he could do. On Saturday I found out that he got the day off and will make the draft.

While I did not want to boot him because he is one of my best friends, I would have done it to protect the integrity of the league. I already had a couple guys lined up to jump in should he bail.

My opinion, boot members and find another if they pull this crap.

 

[two_dollars]

BPA until the starting lineup is filled, or starting lineup + 1rb.. such as, you can't take QB2 before you take Rb2 or WR2 etc..

at least that would allow flexibility instead of this position as this spot. Have him pick a website rankings to go by.

 

[netnalp]

When this happened in leagues I've been in, we had 2 owners that could be trusted do the missing teams picks. The owner whose pick came before the missing person's pick in the round made the pick for the missing owner in that round to get them a playable team. Another way was to have the missing owner get the next highest ranked player of the same position of the team that picked ahead of them. We used the cheatsheet given on the league site. This method didn't seem as popular, I didn't like it as much.