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Gottabesweet
Footballguy
No.
You looking for a league hosting site, or a subscription/advice site like Footballguys?
If the latter, obviously I'm biased, but I'd vote Footballguys. For over a decade before I made the staff, FBGs was the only site I subscribed to. I never felt like it wasn't worth it.
If the latter, obviously I'm biased, but I'd vote Footballguys. For over a decade before I made the staff, FBGs was the only site I subscribed to. I never felt like it wasn't worth it.
MASSHOLE
Footballguy
I have tried another. DraftSharks.com, and IMO it sucked, The writers were #######s and in the forums if you quoted anyone other than them, and their information, they would throw a hissy fit.
A buddy of mine has used bfdfantasyfootball.com, and he said the past 2 seasons they have sucked, information is slow/wrong etc etc etc (I have never used it). He will not be resubscribing after 5 years. I hope he does not find this site. I keep pushing DraftSharks
(Sorry Joe & David)
I have another friend who is a stat guy and he uses numberfire.com
I think FBG is the best there is. One summer I spent a lot of time one day researching which site I would subscribe to (I felt like everyone in my leagues had better information that I had). The Shark Pool, although it is frequently derailed by immature bickering, is probably my favorite aspect of the site. The constant daily news updates, awesome articles, rankings & tiers, drive my continued reading in the forums. I want to be the best in my leagues and having up-to-date information is the only way I see having a leg up on my league mates.
I would highly suggest becoming an insider and checking it out for yourself.
A buddy of mine has used bfdfantasyfootball.com, and he said the past 2 seasons they have sucked, information is slow/wrong etc etc etc (I have never used it). He will not be resubscribing after 5 years. I hope he does not find this site. I keep pushing DraftSharks
(Sorry Joe & David)I have another friend who is a stat guy and he uses numberfire.com
I think FBG is the best there is. One summer I spent a lot of time one day researching which site I would subscribe to (I felt like everyone in my leagues had better information that I had). The Shark Pool, although it is frequently derailed by immature bickering, is probably my favorite aspect of the site. The constant daily news updates, awesome articles, rankings & tiers, drive my continued reading in the forums. I want to be the best in my leagues and having up-to-date information is the only way I see having a leg up on my league mates.
I would highly suggest becoming an insider and checking it out for yourself.
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MASSHOLE
Footballguy
Agreed about the newsletter. I tried to use DD one year and found it very cumbersome. It was too hard to utilize during a live draft with 90 seconds OTC. If it's ever possible to sync DD with a live draft then I would use it again (if a team picks someone other than the suggested player it keeps suggesting the same player until he is finally taken). Preparation wise, it was very helpful to prepare for different scenarios. Another great feature is syncing your league with the MyFBG tools. I found this very helpful last season. It can help with who do I start type questions.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
FBG's fo life
Dragon1952
Footballguy
Besides FBG's......for player analysis, especially as it applies to sleepers/undervalued guys/guys off the radar and non-mainstream thinking, I really like Rotoviz. No point projections but we don't need no stinking point projections.
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Honestly, I always kind of dismissed MyFBGs as a cute little toy, but adding league integration last year really is a gamechanger. No joke, if I'm in 10 different leagues, I can probably save 4-5 hours a week of just busywork (checking waiver wires to see who is available in each individual league, mostly), which adds up to an absurd amount of time over the entire season. FantasyPros has a similar tool available for free, but I don't like the interface as much, and when you think that this is just one more tool in FBGs' suite of apps, it's just one more reason to subscribe.
I know a lot of the FBGs don't really think of the other sites as "competition". We're all a part of the fantasy community, and there are a lot of other sites that offer tons of value to fantasy owners. I have no qualms at all about saying that I subscribe to several other places, and think they're worth every penny. There are a lot of really, really good products out there in the fantasy space- owners today are really spoiled by the sheer number and quality of choices. With that said, in the past, if I've ever been in a place where I had to scale back on my fantasy commitment, FBGs is the only site I have never gone without. I've subscribed to FBGs every year since it first opened its doors, and if they ever get sick of me and kick me to the curb, I'll keep subscribing to them every year until they close their doors.
Dragon1952
Footballguy
Thanks....I've seen that in some of their analysis but didn't know they did it in-season and weekly. To me, that is way more useful than straight projections, which can be on the conservative side. Not that I need that type of thing necessarily....ha-rumph...but it's nice to see someone elses idea on guys who could possibly blow up vs the steady-Eddie's.
Oh, no, they don't do it in-season. I thought you were talking about for their off-season player rankings. Sorry for the confusion.
Dragon1952
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
Tanner9919
Footballguy
while FBG's is probably the best out there, thehuddle.com is also very good.
if you like over-the-top numbers analysis, look no further than profootballfocus.com.
fantasyindex has the best magazine, by far, but, like most FF mags, it's pretty outdated by the time it hits newstands..
Ian Allan does a great job of analyzing players/teams/stats..their weekly updates during training camp are worth the $6..
team by team run-downs, rankings,player analysis..it's pretty good stuff..
FBG's Shark Pool is tops at up to the minute information and trends,and their pay service is outstanding, Dodds is one of the best prognosticators out there..
If you're really interested in winning , get two subscriptions, one at FBG's, one at thehuddle or profootbalfocus and
combine information from both to form your opinions..
if you go for fantasyindex.com I'd only get the second to last training camp update,the one after teams play their starters for 3+ quarters.it's all you need from FI..
if you like over-the-top numbers analysis, look no further than profootballfocus.com.
fantasyindex has the best magazine, by far, but, like most FF mags, it's pretty outdated by the time it hits newstands..
Ian Allan does a great job of analyzing players/teams/stats..their weekly updates during training camp are worth the $6..
team by team run-downs, rankings,player analysis..it's pretty good stuff..
FBG's Shark Pool is tops at up to the minute information and trends,and their pay service is outstanding, Dodds is one of the best prognosticators out there..
If you're really interested in winning , get two subscriptions, one at FBG's, one at thehuddle or profootbalfocus and
combine information from both to form your opinions..
if you go for fantasyindex.com I'd only get the second to last training camp update,the one after teams play their starters for 3+ quarters.it's all you need from FI..
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MattFancy
Footballguy
FBG is the first and only site I've ever subscribed too. Last year was my 1st year (though my subscription was free, thanks app testing!) and it was my best fantasy year ever. Out of my 4 re-draft teams, I won 3. For dynasty purposes, I made the playoffs in 3 of 4. So it was easy for me to reup my subscription for this season.
The MyFBGs was invaluable to me last year. Great for tough lineup decisions, picking up FAs and making trades. The fact that you can adjust all the info to your league is perfect. Just because you play in a PPR or standard league doesn't mean the scoring system is the same as every other league. Definitely helped give me an edge on my league mates.
The MyFBGs was invaluable to me last year. Great for tough lineup decisions, picking up FAs and making trades. The fact that you can adjust all the info to your league is perfect. Just because you play in a PPR or standard league doesn't mean the scoring system is the same as every other league. Definitely helped give me an edge on my league mates.
ebsteelers
Footballguy
I think every site has some good stuff. Lot of good podcast out there. FG has a bunch to listen to. But podcast aside
The podcast to me are invaluable to listen to on the way to and from work though (2hours total driving each day).
Personally, I can only talk about what I know.
FGs- I think is geat and has the most active message board (sure there is Trolling but what board doesnt have it).
But always alot of fresh content. The people who write here, Sig, Adam, Joe etc. are actually active members and you can speak to them without them making you feel like you dont know shyt.
DLF/Dynasty Nerds-both have a lot of good content.
UTH- FGs own Chad Parson runs this.. Good info for fantasy, takes a different approach then some. Active on Twitter. not as much material as DLF but still good information overall.
Dynasty Football Warehouse- has good content for Dynasty purposes.(duh).
Never used pro football focus gold, or anything like that so I cant comment on them.
I think each site brings good views to the game, but at the end of the day its the players job to figure out what is funk and what is junk.
as far as the magazines.I like reading them on the beach (easier than looking at your phone the whole time). But I'd like to see if you buy the magazine that you get access to the online content during the year. ,(access thru an online code or something)
Alot of the paper content is usually outdated by the time your draft roles around (granted most are only 8 bucks).
good thread though.. always nice to hear what else is out there
The podcast to me are invaluable to listen to on the way to and from work though (2hours total driving each day).
Personally, I can only talk about what I know.
FGs- I think is geat and has the most active message board (sure there is Trolling but what board doesnt have it).
But always alot of fresh content. The people who write here, Sig, Adam, Joe etc. are actually active members and you can speak to them without them making you feel like you dont know shyt.
DLF/Dynasty Nerds-both have a lot of good content.
UTH- FGs own Chad Parson runs this.. Good info for fantasy, takes a different approach then some. Active on Twitter. not as much material as DLF but still good information overall.
Dynasty Football Warehouse- has good content for Dynasty purposes.(duh).
Never used pro football focus gold, or anything like that so I cant comment on them.
I think each site brings good views to the game, but at the end of the day its the players job to figure out what is funk and what is junk.
as far as the magazines.I like reading them on the beach (easier than looking at your phone the whole time). But I'd like to see if you buy the magazine that you get access to the online content during the year. ,(access thru an online code or something)
Alot of the paper content is usually outdated by the time your draft roles around (granted most are only 8 bucks).
good thread though.. always nice to hear what else is out there
ebsteelers
Footballguy
great post
They make the workers here pay???
geez Joe!
I really need to check out the myfg tool being in dd leagues
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I was saying if they ever fire me, they'll probably make me pay again. Assuming they don't use an IP ban to ensure they're rid of me
.Although, to be honest, I've still not gotten a free subscription out of this gig- I used to renew my subscription 3 years at a time to get the discount, and when I made staff I still had a year left on my old subscription...
Definitely check out MyFBG. It takes a few minutes to set up, but it will save you soooooo muuuuuuuuch time over the season, especially if you're in a lot of leagues. I honestly don't think they do enough to promote just how big of a deal MyFBGs really is. If it were me, that would be the first thing I mentioned in any sales pitch. It's sometimes hard to convince people to pay cash just for articles and rankings, no matter how good the quality, just because there's so much available for free. Most people, on the other hand, would gladly pay $30 to save themselves 50+ hours of busywork over the season. For me, buying a FBGs subscription was really just purchasing access to the FBGs tools (Data Dominator, Historical Data Dominator, Draft Dominator, and now MyFBGs) and getting all of the analysis for free.
snellman
Footballguy
FBG and Dynastyleaguefootball (They are geared towards dynasty hence the name and most of my leagues are dynasty) are the only 2 sites I subscribe too.
I won a lifetime membership here so I am a little biased but there are enough different staff members with different opinions that you can get a broad outlook on players. We all have our favorites of course, but I really like the difference in opinion.
I won a lifetime membership here so I am a little biased but there are enough different staff members with different opinions that you can get a broad outlook on players. We all have our favorites of course, but I really like the difference in opinion.
I've used DD during a live draft many times- including during several auction drafts. If it's properly setup, it's not hard at all with a 90 second clock, but if it still seems too much of a PIA to do, you can also use the DD to make custom cheetsheets instead (I've done this before in situations where I didn't want to drag along my laptop).
This tool alone is worth half the subscription fee if you're in multiple leagues
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FBG is my main stop shop. You have Sigmund Bloom with the on the couch podcasts. I've heard a lot of great fantasy experts minds speak on his show. And in turn, follow them on twitter for more insight. MyFBG saves you so much time. If you play in multiple leagues, you need to subscribe just for this!
Rotoviz is a must have for the Similarity score based comparables apps. The great thing about the app is that it is predictive.
Numberfire is great site. They had LeSean McCoy has the #1 overall pick last year and I won the majority of my league with their advice. Using various models, they sort through past matchup data and assign more importance to meaningful events:
The first step of our process involves digging into the box score. We know that it means a lot more to throw for 300 yards against the Steelers than it does against the Browns, so why simply use yards as an indicator for how good a quarterback is? Using a series of mathematical models, we break down the action in order to have a better and more accurate understanding of what teams and players are performing well and which are paper champions. The next step of process involves using the power of predictive and regressive modeling to more accurately project future performance. Using our advanced metrics combined with state -of-the-art predictive algorithms, we leverage the power of science to come up with the most accurate, data-driven projections around. We do all the number crunching - all you have to do is win. And win you will: if you used our fantasy projections instead of the platform defaults, you'd have a 30% higher chance of winning your league.
Nik Bonaddio, CEO of Numberfire sums up the site perfectly: "Basically, we're using regressive analysis to create our own statistics, neural networking to map those statistics and profiles of current players to those historically, and using a union set of players and teams to come up with a projection based on advantages/disadvantages certain types/efficiencies/etc. of players have against certain teams."
I use all three sites and that is all I need.
According to FantasyPros, in the last three years Numberfire is ranked #13 @ 60.6%. David Dodds ranked #6 @ 61.4%, and Sigmund Blood @ 60%.
Rotoviz is a must have for the Similarity score based comparables apps. The great thing about the app is that it is predictive.
Numberfire is great site. They had LeSean McCoy has the #1 overall pick last year and I won the majority of my league with their advice. Using various models, they sort through past matchup data and assign more importance to meaningful events:
The first step of our process involves digging into the box score. We know that it means a lot more to throw for 300 yards against the Steelers than it does against the Browns, so why simply use yards as an indicator for how good a quarterback is? Using a series of mathematical models, we break down the action in order to have a better and more accurate understanding of what teams and players are performing well and which are paper champions. The next step of process involves using the power of predictive and regressive modeling to more accurately project future performance. Using our advanced metrics combined with state -of-the-art predictive algorithms, we leverage the power of science to come up with the most accurate, data-driven projections around. We do all the number crunching - all you have to do is win. And win you will: if you used our fantasy projections instead of the platform defaults, you'd have a 30% higher chance of winning your league.
Nik Bonaddio, CEO of Numberfire sums up the site perfectly: "Basically, we're using regressive analysis to create our own statistics, neural networking to map those statistics and profiles of current players to those historically, and using a union set of players and teams to come up with a projection based on advantages/disadvantages certain types/efficiencies/etc. of players have against certain teams."
I use all three sites and that is all I need.
According to FantasyPros, in the last three years Numberfire is ranked #13 @ 60.6%. David Dodds ranked #6 @ 61.4%, and Sigmund Blood @ 60%.
Warrior
Footballguy
I don't really find any use for the newsletter (just check RW once a day for news updates) and the Dominator tools are too cumbersome for me to get any use out of.
The only real reason I subscribe is for the contests, which unfortunately seem to be getting trimmed down or watered down each year. Hopefully Wisdom of the Crowd sticks around, even if they don't have the winners league anymore and the prizes are reduced again, because my subscription is up after this season and that will determine if I stick around. The Subscribers contest is still a lot of fun, even though the odds go way down with the increasing pool of subscribers.
Unfortunately, FBG seems to be focusing almost all of the effort on things like their cash cow, the Players Championship, daily fantasy leagues (that they profit from), and iPad and Mobile tools. I can't help but feel a little annoyed when paying a decent amount for a subscription (for fantasy advice, which is free on 90% of sites, though a lesser quality) when their focus is clearly on additional ways to make profit from their subscribers.
I'll stick around for the forums though, even if I don't renew. Maybe I'll have a change of heart though, especially if they come up with some new contests/games (included in the sub, not for an additional fee).
The only real reason I subscribe is for the contests, which unfortunately seem to be getting trimmed down or watered down each year. Hopefully Wisdom of the Crowd sticks around, even if they don't have the winners league anymore and the prizes are reduced again, because my subscription is up after this season and that will determine if I stick around. The Subscribers contest is still a lot of fun, even though the odds go way down with the increasing pool of subscribers.
Unfortunately, FBG seems to be focusing almost all of the effort on things like their cash cow, the Players Championship, daily fantasy leagues (that they profit from), and iPad and Mobile tools. I can't help but feel a little annoyed when paying a decent amount for a subscription (for fantasy advice, which is free on 90% of sites, though a lesser quality) when their focus is clearly on additional ways to make profit from their subscribers.
I'll stick around for the forums though, even if I don't renew. Maybe I'll have a change of heart though, especially if they come up with some new contests/games (included in the sub, not for an additional fee).
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tonato
Footballguy
beside the well known FBG and PFF (great for snap count alone if you play IDP, but not very cheap), I also pay for an browser add-on called "pickemfirst", which is a great timesaver as it shows you in your browser if a player is in a team in your FF league or not (in adding a little symbol beside his name). It's 13 $ for 5 teams and 1 $ per additional teams. I dont use it on small shallow leagues but it's a great tool if you want to save some time during the season. Works with all the well-known league hosters I know, with the exception of RSO.
http://app.pickemfirst.com/
http://app.pickemfirst.com/
