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What do you offer a good pitcher with injury problems?

A multi year $80 million contract? or a one year incentive laden contract?

Theo >>>>>>>>>>> Cashman

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8997354...3162&ATT=49

Free-agent right-hander Brad Penny and the Boston Red Sox are close to agreeing on a one-year deal, according to a major-league source.

Penny, 29, struggled last season with the Dodgers, going 6-9 with a 6.27 ERA in 17 starts and two relief appearances. He was shut down in September and placed on the 60-day disabled list with a sore right shoulder.

Penny posted a career year in 2007 by throwing 208 innings with 16 wins and a career-low 3.03 ERA.

The move would give the Red Sox the ability to keep Justin Masterson in the bullpen and be patient with Clay Buchholz.

 
LMFAO This is not a bad signing but saying Penny is a similar calibre pitcher as Burnett is ridiculous. Also, Penny's injury last year was much more severe than anything Burnett's faced recently.

 
LMFAO This is not a bad signing but saying Penny is a similar calibre pitcher as Burnett is ridiculous. Also, Penny's injury last year was much more severe than anything Burnett's faced recently.
Burnett's stuff is better than Penny's. Burnett's inconsistencies are why I don't think he's as good as many believe.
 
As I posted in one of the other threads, their career numbers are not that far apart:

If the Sox end up signing Penny for $5M plus incentives, comparing him to Burnett:

Penny

94-75 .556, 4.06, 1.337 WHIP, 106 ERA+

Burnett

87-76 .534, 3.81, 1.284 WHIP, 111 ERA+

 
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As I posted in one of the other threads, their career numbers are not that far apart:If the Sox end up signing Penny for $5M plus incentives, comparing him to Burnett:Penny94-75 .556, 4.06, 1.337 WHIP, 106 ERA+Burnett87-76 .534, 3.81, 1.284 WHIP, 111 ERA+
K/9IPBurnett 8.36Penny 6.36Shoulder injuries in 2008Burnett 0Penny 1Lets not pretend that it is even a given that Penny will pitch in 2009.
 
As I posted in one of the other threads, their career numbers are not that far apart:If the Sox end up signing Penny for $5M plus incentives, comparing him to Burnett:Penny94-75 .556, 4.06, 1.337 WHIP, 106 ERA+Burnett87-76 .534, 3.81, 1.284 WHIP, 111 ERA+
K/9IPBurnett 8.36Penny 6.36Shoulder injuries in 2008Burnett 0Penny 1Lets not pretend that it is even a given that Penny will pitch in 2009.
:cry: I knew as soon as I saw Boson signed Penny (or anyone, for that matter) that I was going to come on here and read all about how Theo had one-upped Cashman once again. As if Cashman is a complete moron.Look, Penny could turn out to be a good signing. Burnett is much more of a sure thing even as dicey as he is. Could Penny do better? Yes. But if it was even close to a good chance, the total values of the contracts wouldn't have been $75 million apart. Wouldn't the Braves or Blue Jays or anyone else involved in the Burnett talks have gone a bit more than $5 mil for Penny if they considered the two even marginally close? Come on guys, you're all better than this.Let's call it what it is -- a decent signing with some upside, but more than likely won't be a huge boon for 2008.
 
I knew as soon as I saw Boson signed Penny (or anyone, for that matter) that I was going to come on here and read all about how Theo had one-upped Cashman once again.
So what you're saying is Cashman signed Burnett to a horrible contract.
 
I knew as soon as I saw Boson signed Penny (or anyone, for that matter) that I was going to come on here and read all about how Theo had one-upped Cashman once again.
So what you're saying is Cashman signed Burnett to a horrible contract.
I think everyone agrees how the Burnett contract was a bad one. But I just love how EVERY Red Sox signing is considered a genius move. The Penny signing probably wont have much of an impact on the season. It almost sounds similar to when the Yankees signed Lieber. Basically, give him an incentive laden deal and HOPE he is healthy. If the Yankees signed him theyd still be looking for a starting pitcher. The Penny signing was a luxury for the Sox and the Burnett signing was a necessity for the Yankees.
 
I knew as soon as I saw Boson signed Penny (or anyone, for that matter) that I was going to come on here and read all about how Theo had one-upped Cashman once again.
So what you're saying is Cashman signed Burnett to a horrible contract.
I think everyone agrees how the Burnett contract was a bad one. But I just love how EVERY Red Sox signing is considered a genius move. The Penny signing probably wont have much of an impact on the season. It almost sounds similar to when the Yankees signed Lieber. Basically, give him an incentive laden deal and HOPE he is healthy. If the Yankees signed him theyd still be looking for a starting pitcher. The Penny signing was a luxury for the Sox and the Burnett signing was a necessity for the Yankees.
I think Penny is more of a health risk than Burnett but if both of them stay healthy their numbers could be similar in terms of wins and ERA. Clearly Burnett is more of a strikeout pitcher so he'll have more Ks. Not a ton of risk for the Sox so not a bad signing.
 
If the non sucky-tude of Penny's contract is what Boston fans are hanging their hat on this offseason....it's going to be a long winter in Beantown.

 
As I posted in one of the other threads, their career numbers are not that far apart:If the Sox end up signing Penny for $5M plus incentives, comparing him to Burnett:Penny94-75 .556, 4.06, 1.337 WHIP, 106 ERA+Burnett87-76 .534, 3.81, 1.284 WHIP, 111 ERA+
These numbers don't really compare apples to apples, as Penny has had the luxury of pitching in NL his entire career, including a nice pitcher friendly park the past 4+, and Burnett's been in the AL East the past 3 years or so.That being said, I'd rather not tie up a lot of money in long term contracts on pitchers, so I like this signing a lot more than the Burnett signing. The Red Sox do have a need for a quality 4th - 5th starter and a healthy Penny would be one of the best in the league. At this point, you're going to need to take a chance for a very good starter. Do you take a small chance on Penny, a slightly bigger chance on Sheets, or bet the farm for Peavy? I may have gone with Sheets personally, but I have no idea of knowing how much pricier he would have been. One year contract for Penny is a pretty good bet in my book, especially considering Penny is not too old, and knows that he will be pitching for his next contract this year. Hell, Hampton just got a multi million dollar contract from the Astros.
 
The Ghost of Common said:
If the non sucky-tude of Penny's contract is what Boston fans are hanging their hat on this offseason....it's going to be a long winter in Beantown.
I'm pretty sure no one in Boston is hanging their hat on that.They're probably hanging their hats on 2 World Series in the past 4 years, and a trip to the ALCS last year with a lot of the same players for 2009. That'd be my guess though.
You wouldn't think that by the way it seems the Sabathia, Burnett and Texiera signings have their panties in a bunch.
 
Theo and Co. have gone and outsmarted the field again. This organization never ceases to amaze me.

 
As I posted in one of the other threads, their career numbers are not that far apart:If the Sox end up signing Penny for $5M plus incentives, comparing him to Burnett:Penny94-75 .556, 4.06, 1.337 WHIP, 106 ERA+Burnett87-76 .534, 3.81, 1.284 WHIP, 111 ERA+
These numbers don't really compare apples to apples, as Penny has had the luxury of pitching in NL his entire career, including a nice pitcher friendly park the past 4+, and Burnett's been in the AL East the past 3 years or so.That being said, I'd rather not tie up a lot of money in long term contracts on pitchers, so I like this signing a lot more than the Burnett signing. The Red Sox do have a need for a quality 4th - 5th starter and a healthy Penny would be one of the best in the league. At this point, you're going to need to take a chance for a very good starter. Do you take a small chance on Penny, a slightly bigger chance on Sheets, or bet the farm for Peavy? I may have gone with Sheets personally, but I have no idea of knowing how much pricier he would have been. One year contract for Penny is a pretty good bet in my book, especially considering Penny is not too old, and knows that he will be pitching for his next contract this year. Hell, Hampton just got a multi million dollar contract from the Astros.
How about we make it 100% apples to apples?Both Penny and Burnett pitched for the Marlins from 2000 to 2005.Penny:48-52, .533, 4.04, 1.316Burnett:45-48, .484, 3.74, 1.273Burnett certainly allowed fewer hits and had more strikeouts and overall was slightly better. But I don't think that there was a huge difference production wise.
 
As I posted in one of the other threads, their career numbers are not that far apart:

If the Sox end up signing Penny for $5M plus incentives, comparing him to Burnett:

Penny

94-75 .556, 4.06, 1.337 WHIP, 106 ERA+

Burnett

87-76 .534, 3.81, 1.284 WHIP, 111 ERA+
These numbers don't really compare apples to apples, as Penny has had the luxury of pitching in NL his entire career, including a nice pitcher friendly park the past 4+, and Burnett's been in the AL East the past 3 years or so.That being said, I'd rather not tie up a lot of money in long term contracts on pitchers, so I like this signing a lot more than the Burnett signing. The Red Sox do have a need for a quality 4th - 5th starter and a healthy Penny would be one of the best in the league.

At this point, you're going to need to take a chance for a very good starter. Do you take a small chance on Penny, a slightly bigger chance on Sheets, or bet the farm for Peavy? I may have gone with Sheets personally, but I have no idea of knowing how much pricier he would have been.

One year contract for Penny is a pretty good bet in my book, especially considering Penny is not too old, and knows that he will be pitching for his next contract this year. Hell, Hampton just got a multi million dollar contract from the Astros.
How about we make it 100% apples to apples?Both Penny and Burnett pitched for the Marlins from 2000 to 2005.

Penny:

48-52, .533, 4.04, 1.316

Burnett:

45-48, .484, 3.74, 1.273

Burnett certainly allowed fewer hits and had more strikeouts and overall was slightly better. But I don't think that there was a huge difference production wise.
:lol: :lmao:

 
Sorry, but I don't think comparing 22 year old, pre-shoulder injury pitchers to now 30 something post-operation pitchers is comparable. That's just me though :mellow:

I'll take the guy with the better K/IP rate, without significant shoulder concerns over the guy with the pretty steadily declining k-rate coming off injury, which is obviously the reason Burnett got a multi-year contract, and Penny signed a 1 year contract at a steep discount to market.

I'm a Red Sox fan, I'm not disappointed with the signing, as stated above. But if you're about to tell me that you think Penny's 2009 is looking similar to Burnett's, I'm going to have to disagree.

 
Sorry, but I don't think comparing 22 year old, pre-shoulder injury pitchers to now 30 something post-operation pitchers is comparable. That's just me though :football:I'll take the guy with the better K/IP rate, without significant shoulder concerns over the guy with the pretty steadily declining k-rate coming off injury, which is obviously the reason Burnett got a multi-year contract, and Penny signed a 1 year contract at a steep discount to market.I'm a Red Sox fan, I'm not disappointed with the signing, as stated above. But if you're about to tell me that you think Penny's 2009 is looking similar to Burnett's, I'm going to have to disagree.
Sonny's just trying to stir the pot here. I also said all along that if both are healthy (a big if for both of them but moreso for Penny) that they have put up similar numbers and could again put up similar numbers. The other factor here is that the Yankees need Burnett to have a big year both for what they are paying him and his position in the rotation, etc. The Sox don't need Penny to the degree the Yanks need Burnett and Penny's more of a luxury if he works out. Should be an interesting subplot this year . . .
 
Even though Penny has probably run out of bullets, ie, his arm is probably shot...it's a good deal, and worth the risk...just like their Colon signing last season. I wanted the White Sox to move on Penny for $5-8 million per...oh well...

 
If his arm is shot this is all mute. He's had injury problems in the past and rebounded. If he still has something left he will either be a surprise starter or a mother coming out of the pen come october.

May have been a smarter move for him to convert to a closer. Offer his services up to the Angels for 4-5mill with incentives based on saves. Guy seems to have the intensity to be a closer.

 
As I posted in one of the other threads, their career numbers are not that far apart:

If the Sox end up signing Penny for $5M plus incentives, comparing him to Burnett:

Penny

94-75 .556, 4.06, 1.337 WHIP, 106 ERA+

Burnett

87-76 .534, 3.81, 1.284 WHIP, 111 ERA+
These numbers don't really compare apples to apples, as Penny has had the luxury of pitching in NL his entire career, including a nice pitcher friendly park the past 4+, and Burnett's been in the AL East the past 3 years or so.That being said, I'd rather not tie up a lot of money in long term contracts on pitchers, so I like this signing a lot more than the Burnett signing. The Red Sox do have a need for a quality 4th - 5th starter and a healthy Penny would be one of the best in the league.

At this point, you're going to need to take a chance for a very good starter. Do you take a small chance on Penny, a slightly bigger chance on Sheets, or bet the farm for Peavy? I may have gone with Sheets personally, but I have no idea of knowing how much pricier he would have been.

One year contract for Penny is a pretty good bet in my book, especially considering Penny is not too old, and knows that he will be pitching for his next contract this year. Hell, Hampton just got a multi 2 million dollar contract w/ incentives from the Astros.
Frankly, if you're going to take a health risk on a player, I'd go for Sheets in this market. He's got legit ace stuff when healthy, meanwhile Penny just got injured and Burnett has a pattern of pitching best during contract years. But of any of them to sign to a long term deal its got to be Burnett. He hasnt had any major structural problemswith his arm and his K/9 isnt falling off a cliff -- what he really seems to need is to stop being soft and pitch through discomfort sometimes.
 
I don't believe the Red Sox will get much out of Penny next year.

There is no big risk however, that's true.

If it works out, Theo should be applauded, if it doesn't, no one will think much of it at all.

 
As I posted in one of the other threads, their career numbers are not that far apart:

If the Sox end up signing Penny for $5M plus incentives, comparing him to Burnett:

Penny

94-75 .556, 4.06, 1.337 WHIP, 106 ERA+

Burnett

87-76 .534, 3.81, 1.284 WHIP, 111 ERA+
These numbers don't really compare apples to apples, as Penny has had the luxury of pitching in NL his entire career, including a nice pitcher friendly park the past 4+, and Burnett's been in the AL East the past 3 years or so.That being said, I'd rather not tie up a lot of money in long term contracts on pitchers, so I like this signing a lot more than the Burnett signing. The Red Sox do have a need for a quality 4th - 5th starter and a healthy Penny would be one of the best in the league.

At this point, you're going to need to take a chance for a very good starter. Do you take a small chance on Penny, a slightly bigger chance on Sheets, or bet the farm for Peavy? I may have gone with Sheets personally, but I have no idea of knowing how much pricier he would have been.

One year contract for Penny is a pretty good bet in my book, especially considering Penny is not too old, and knows that he will be pitching for his next contract this year. Hell, Hampton just got a multi 2 million dollar contract w/ incentives from the Astros.
Frankly, if you're going to take a health risk on a player, I'd go for Sheets in this market. He's got legit ace stuff when healthy, meanwhile Penny just got injured and Burnett has a pattern of pitching best during contract years. But of any of them to sign to a long term deal its got to be Burnett. He hasnt had any major structural problemswith his arm and his K/9 isnt falling off a cliff -- what he really seems to need is to stop being soft and pitch through discomfort sometimes.
:confused: I would have rather seen Sheets on a 2 year deal.
 
I shouldn't laugh. Everyone knew signing Penny was nothing but a "flier" signing.

A smart GM signs two of these pitchers and one usually works out, if you know what you're doing.

Who was the other pitcher they took a flier on?

Oh yea, John Smoltz.

Theo = :thumbup:

 
LMFAO This is not a bad signing but saying Penny is a similar calibre pitcher as Burnett is ridiculous. Also, Penny's injury last year was much more severe than anything Burnett's faced recently.
Burnett's stuff is better than Penny's. Burnett's inconsistencies are why I don't think he's as good as many believe.
I dont think theres a large enough font to say oof
 
Sorry, but I don't think comparing 22 year old, pre-shoulder injury pitchers to now 30 something post-operation pitchers is comparable. That's just me though :coffee:I'll take the guy with the better K/IP rate, without significant shoulder concerns over the guy with the pretty steadily declining k-rate coming off injury, which is obviously the reason Burnett got a multi-year contract, and Penny signed a 1 year contract at a steep discount to market.I'm a Red Sox fan, I'm not disappointed with the signing, as stated above. But if you're about to tell me that you think Penny's 2009 is looking similar to Burnett's, I'm going to have to disagree.
Sonny's just trying to stir the pot here. I also said all along that if both are healthy (a big if for both of them but moreso for Penny) that they have put up similar numbers and could again put up similar numbers. The other factor here is that the Yankees need Burnett to have a big year both for what they are paying him and his position in the rotation, etc. The Sox don't need Penny to the degree the Yanks need Burnett and Penny's more of a luxury if he works out. Should be an interesting subplot this year . . .
LMFAO
 
Sorry, but I don't think comparing 22 year old, pre-shoulder injury pitchers to now 30 something post-operation pitchers is comparable. That's just me though :goodposting:

I'll take the guy with the better K/IP rate, without significant shoulder concerns over the guy with the pretty steadily declining k-rate coming off injury, which is obviously the reason Burnett got a multi-year contract, and Penny signed a 1 year contract at a steep discount to market.

I'm a Red Sox fan, I'm not disappointed with the signing, as stated above. But if you're about to tell me that you think Penny's 2009 is looking similar to Burnett's, I'm going to have to disagree.
Sonny's just trying to stir the pot here. I also said all along that if both are healthy (a big if for both of them but moreso for Penny) that they have put up similar numbers and could again put up similar numbers. The other factor here is that the Yankees need Burnett to have a big year both for what they are paying him and his position in the rotation, etc. The Sox don't need Penny to the degree the Yanks need Burnett and Penny's more of a luxury if he works out. Should be an interesting subplot this year . . .
LMFAO
I will stick with what i said at the start of the year. the Yanks did a great job this offseason as they free'd up a lot of money and spent it wisely, especially scooping in and getting Texiera. I also said that the Red Sox did some less heralded moves...getting Saito was a great move. Here is what i wrote:"Other team news: the RedSox got Saito, Smoltz and Penny. These are less heralded moves, but once again their GM makes some good value moves. Saito over the last 3 years had an OPS against of .509, and he was deadly on righties who had an OPS of .425 in 336 AB’s. For perspective, Rivera had an OPS against of .544 over the last 3 years. Saito was in the NL, but those are impressive numbers. I honestly was not aware he was available."

Smoltz has been effective as long as he is healthy and the money given to him was not crazy. Penny was awful last year (one of the worst pitchers), but he was always good before that. they took two fliers on these guys.

You can't criticize Epstein without complimenting him on the Saito move

 
I shouldn't laugh. Everyone knew signing Penny was nothing but a "flier" signing. A smart GM signs two of these pitchers and one usually works out, if you know what you're doing.Who was the other pitcher they took a flier on?Oh yea, John Smoltz. Theo = :rolleyes:
It's flyer in the sense you are using the word.HTH
 
LMFAO This is not a bad signing but saying Penny is a similar calibre pitcher as Burnett is ridiculous. Also, Penny's injury last year was much more severe than anything Burnett's faced recently.
Burnett's stuff is better than Penny's. Burnett's inconsistencies are why I don't think he's as good as many believe.
I dont think theres a large enough font to say oof
:rolleyes:Seriously? He's actually spot on. Burnett has been extremely inconsistent this year. I suppose you don't think Burnett's inconsistent in the same way you don't realize that everyone else in the league finds Joba to be a punk.Open your eyes "JOBARULES" You have these Yankee blinders on and Joba's rod stuck up your leather cheerio and you seem to be incapable of thinking rationally as a baseball fan and only react as a Yankee **** rider. :lmao:
 
LMFAO This is not a bad signing but saying Penny is a similar calibre pitcher as Burnett is ridiculous. Also, Penny's injury last year was much more severe than anything Burnett's faced recently.
Burnett's stuff is better than Penny's. Burnett's inconsistencies are why I don't think he's as good as many believe.
I dont think theres a large enough font to say oof
LMFAO. There's isn't an owned sign big enough for this post. :lmao: :cry: :lmao:
 
Here's the major difference between the Penny/Smoltz experiments and the Burnett experiment.

The Penny/Smoltz experiments are over and will not be plaguing the organization for the next 5 years.

The Yankees have a half decade of one of the most inconsistent/headcase/injury prone pitchers in the big leagues.

Yet another 5 star pull by Cashman the genius.

 
The Ghost of Common said:
Here's the major difference between the Penny/Smoltz experiments and the Burnett experiment.The Penny/Smoltz experiments are over and will not be plaguing the organization for the next 5 years.The Yankees have a half decade of one of the most inconsistent/headcase/injury prone pitchers in the big leagues. Yet another 5 star pull by Cashman the genius.
You need to go to your shed.Burnett is a good pitcher who had a terrible night. Didn't Beckett just get hit hard his last outing? This is baseball and you need to look at the big picture. Coming into the game Burnett had a very good ERA, leaving the game, his ERA exploded to about the exact ERA he had last year. His ERA was 3.69 before the game and 4.08 after.
 
The Ghost of Common said:
Here's the major difference between the Penny/Smoltz experiments and the Burnett experiment.The Penny/Smoltz experiments are over and will not be plaguing the organization for the next 5 years.The Yankees have a half decade of one of the most inconsistent/headcase/injury prone pitchers in the big leagues. Yet another 5 star pull by Cashman the genius.
You need to go to your shed.Burnett is a good pitcher who had a terrible night. Didn't Beckett just get hit hard his last outing? This is baseball and you need to look at the big picture. Coming into the game Burnett had a very good ERA, leaving the game, his ERA exploded to about the exact ERA he had last year. His ERA was 3.69 before the game and 4.08 after.
Burnett is inconsistent, is he not? That's the point. He's very trick or treat, feast or famine, he's a major headcase.
 
The Ghost of Common said:
Here's the major difference between the Penny/Smoltz experiments and the Burnett experiment.The Penny/Smoltz experiments are over and will not be plaguing the organization for the next 5 years.The Yankees have a half decade of one of the most inconsistent/headcase/injury prone pitchers in the big leagues. Yet another 5 star pull by Cashman the genius.
What do I care as long as the Yanks have a better record? If Burnett is inconsistent in 2,3,4 or 5 years.....we'll get someoneto replace him.
 
The Ghost of Common said:
Here's the major difference between the Penny/Smoltz experiments and the Burnett experiment.The Penny/Smoltz experiments are over and will not be plaguing the organization for the next 5 years.The Yankees have a half decade of one of the most inconsistent/headcase/injury prone pitchers in the big leagues. Yet another 5 star pull by Cashman the genius.
You need to go to your shed.Burnett is a good pitcher who had a terrible night. Didn't Beckett just get hit hard his last outing? This is baseball and you need to look at the big picture. Coming into the game Burnett had a very good ERA, leaving the game, his ERA exploded to about the exact ERA he had last year. His ERA was 3.69 before the game and 4.08 after.
Burnett is inconsistent, is he not? That's the point. He's very trick or treat, feast or famine, he's a major headcase.
Not really much more than any other pitcher.
 
The Ghost of Common said:
Here's the major difference between the Penny/Smoltz experiments and the Burnett experiment.

The Penny/Smoltz experiments are over and will not be plaguing the organization for the next 5 years.

The Yankees have a half decade of one of the most inconsistent/headcase/injury prone pitchers in the big leagues.

Yet another 5 star pull by Cashman the genius.
What do I care as long as the Yanks have a better record? If Burnett is inconsistent in 2,3,4 or 5 years.....we'll get someoneto replace him.
:thumbup:
 
The Ghost of Common said:
Here's the major difference between the Penny/Smoltz experiments and the Burnett experiment.The Penny/Smoltz experiments are over and will not be plaguing the organization for the next 5 years.The Yankees have a half decade of one of the most inconsistent/headcase/injury prone pitchers in the big leagues. Yet another 5 star pull by Cashman the genius.
You need to go to your shed.Burnett is a good pitcher who had a terrible night. Didn't Beckett just get hit hard his last outing? This is baseball and you need to look at the big picture. Coming into the game Burnett had a very good ERA, leaving the game, his ERA exploded to about the exact ERA he had last year. His ERA was 3.69 before the game and 4.08 after.
Burnett is inconsistent, is he not? That's the point. He's very trick or treat, feast or famine, he's a major headcase.
Not really much more than any other pitcher.
I couldn't disagree more. All fishing aside. Looking at his gamelogs, they are all over the place. I have him on my fantasy team - he is the most inconsistent pitcher I have.
 
The Ghost of Common said:
LMFAO This is not a bad signing but saying Penny is a similar calibre pitcher as Burnett is ridiculous. Also, Penny's injury last year was much more severe than anything Burnett's faced recently.
Burnett's stuff is better than Penny's. Burnett's inconsistencies are why I don't think he's as good as many believe.
I dont think theres a large enough font to say oof
:shock:Seriously? He's actually spot on. Burnett has been extremely inconsistent this year. I suppose you don't think Burnett's inconsistent in the same way you don't realize that everyone else in the league finds Joba to be a punk.Open your eyes "JOBARULES" You have these Yankee blinders on and Joba's rod stuck up your leather cheerio and you seem to be incapable of thinking rationally as a baseball fan and only react as a Yankee **** rider. :rolleyes:
whoa calm down buddy.
 
The Ghost of Common said:
LMFAO This is not a bad signing but saying Penny is a similar calibre pitcher as Burnett is ridiculous. Also, Penny's injury last year was much more severe than anything Burnett's faced recently.
Burnett's stuff is better than Penny's. Burnett's inconsistencies are why I don't think he's as good as many believe.
I dont think theres a large enough font to say oof
:rolleyes:Seriously? He's actually spot on. Burnett has been extremely inconsistent this year.
:confused:
 
The Ghost of Common said:
Liquid Tension said:
The Ghost of Common said:
The Ghost of Common said:
Here's the major difference between the Penny/Smoltz experiments and the Burnett experiment.The Penny/Smoltz experiments are over and will not be plaguing the organization for the next 5 years.The Yankees have a half decade of one of the most inconsistent/headcase/injury prone pitchers in the big leagues. Yet another 5 star pull by Cashman the genius.
You need to go to your shed.Burnett is a good pitcher who had a terrible night. Didn't Beckett just get hit hard his last outing? This is baseball and you need to look at the big picture. Coming into the game Burnett had a very good ERA, leaving the game, his ERA exploded to about the exact ERA he had last year. His ERA was 3.69 before the game and 4.08 after.
Burnett is inconsistent, is he not? That's the point. He's very trick or treat, feast or famine, he's a major headcase.
Not really much more than any other pitcher.
I couldn't disagree more. All fishing aside. Looking at his gamelogs, they are all over the place. I have him on my fantasy team - he is the most inconsistent pitcher I have.
and now Beckett I guess is inconsistent as well? Hyperbole alert
 
This would be ironic

The Yankees have an interest in veteran right-hander Brad Penny, who was released by the Red Sox late Wednesday night.According to a person with knowledge of the Yankees' plans, the club doesn't know of an agreement between Penny and the Red Sox that he wouldn't sign with an AL team if they released him.Penny, who is expected to clear waivers Monday because he has about $1.5 million left in salary and attainable bonuses, might be considered an upgrade over Sergio Mitre in the fifth starter's spot. After he clears waivers, Penny would cost the club signing him $100,000.Several Yankees spoke glowingly of the 31-year-old, who faced them last Friday night in Boston when he gave up eight runs and 10 hits in four-plus innings."He's got good stuff,'' Johnny Damon said of Penny, whose fastball touched 97 mph and averaged 91 to 93. "His secondary stuff might need a little tweak but his fastball was electric, it cut and he hit his spots with it. Bring him here, why not? I love the way the guy competes."Derek Jeter didn't go that far but said, "He throws hard and he challenges you. He comes right at you, it's not like he is trying to trick you."
 
I'm wondering whether the Dodgers would give him a call given that he can be signed at a discount.

 

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