People on-line are saying it’s bad to visit Hawaii as a tourist….huh? (1 Viewer)

[eoMMan]

Olivia Rodrigo apparently just got slammed for this. I never realized this was a thing.

Olivia Rodrigo criticized for vacationing in Hawaii and promoting it

Native Hawaiians and other residents have had valid concerns about the impact of over-tourism, especially in recent years, being that the islands are a popular destination for vacationers.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Cowboysfan8]

 

[TLEF316]

And every one of their votes counts the same as ours.

People are morons

 

[massraider]

Olivia Rodrigo apparently just got slammed for this. I never realized this was a thing.

Olivia Rodrigo criticized for vacationing in Hawaii and promoting it

Native Hawaiians and other residents have had valid concerns about the impact of over-tourism, especially in recent years, being that the islands are a popular destination for vacationers.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Someone commented on her photos.

Daily Mail writing about this doesn’t make it a thing.

there is now more outrage about the outrage.

 

[fruity pebbles]

I mean I wish tourists didn’t visit where I live as well but then I realize half the businesses would shut down if that were the case.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

These people who don't want you vacationing in Hawaii, are they going to be by your side when you're 85 and dying and looking back at the experiences you wish you would have had?

No?

Then **** 'em. Go to Hawaii and enjoy yourself.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Olivia Rodrigo apparently just got slammed for this. I never realized this was a thing.

Olivia Rodrigo criticized for vacationing in Hawaii and promoting it

Native Hawaiians and other residents have had valid concerns about the impact of over-tourism, especially in recent years, being that the islands are a popular destination for vacationers.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Someone commented on her photos.

Daily Mail writing about this doesn’t make it a thing.

there is now more outrage about the outrage.

Exactly. There's this new trend of sites pretending there is outrage about something so they can defend the thing against the "outrage" they invented. And their source, like this one, is usually a few random tweets or something.

Screenrant did it recently writing an article defending Tropic Thunder against the "controversy" around the movie. Of course there is no controversy around the movie, they just cherry picked out a few random tweets from nobodies and pretended it was "controversy".

You can find a few tweets saying basically anything. That doesn't mean there's "controversy" or "outrage".

 

[Chemical X]

last i checked, hawai’i for some reason is a state. so, if people want to screech about 1st and 2nd amendment rights and the like, don’t tell me as a US citizen what states i can visit and live in.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

there is now more outrage about the outrage.

I find this more and more common. I'll see a NY Post Headline that says "Italian Americans outraged over Chris Pratt playing Mario" and then click on the story and it's based on 3 or 4 random tweets (not sure how they even know that "Panther Pat" is Italian).

 

[massraider]

I find this more and more common. I'll see a NY Post Headline that says "Italian Americans outraged over Chris Platt playing Mario" and then click on the story and it's based on 3 or 4 random tweets (not sure how they even know that "Panther Pat" is Italian).

Not even tweets. REPLIES to tweets.

These sites are content farms, and they have entry level people writing trash looking for engagement.

 

[El Floppo]

Me and my family were murdered the last 5 times we went to Mexico.

 

[Sand]

Me and my family were murdered the last 5 times we went to Mexico.

Sincerest condolences.

When's the next trip?

 

[bigbottom]

(1) This is a manufactured controversy. Yes, there are some folks in Hawaii that are anti-tourism, but they are a very small minority (even smaller than the Hawaiian independence supporters).

(2) Maybe consider going on a vacation and not bragging to the world about it on your public IG page?

 

[Mookie]

We visited Maui last fall and I won't go back - not because some locals asked us not to come back, but because it is too crowded, touristy, and overdeveloped.

 

[caustic]

Showing solidarity with native Hawaiians by trying to kill the #1 industry in their state.

 

[Sand]

(1) Yes, there are some folks in Hawaii that are anti-tourism

Wouldn't the first step be to get the Hawaii Tourism Authority shut down? That may be a shade bit more effective than an Instagram post.

 

[Sand]

We visited Maui last fall and I won't go back - not because some locals asked us not to come back, but because it is too crowded, touristy, and overdeveloped.

Which island? I've been to Kauai and it didn't feel that that at all.

 

[El Floppo]

We visited Maui last fall and I won't go back - not because some locals asked us not to come back, but because it is too crowded, touristy, and overdeveloped.

Which island? I've been to Kauai and it didn't feel that that at all.

Lol

 

[bigbottom]

We visited Maui last fall and I won't go back - not because some locals asked us not to come back, but because it is too crowded, touristy, and overdeveloped.

Which island? I've been to Kauai and it didn't feel that that at all.

Bolded.

 

[Don Quixote]

(2) Maybe consider going on a vacation and not bragging to the world about it on your public IG page?

I don’t see the issue with what Olivia Rodrigo did and would not consider it “bragging.” I post vacation pictures on my public Instagram page too, but I guess I’m not a public figure.

 

[bigbottom]

(2) Maybe consider going on a vacation and not bragging to the world about it on your public IG page?

I don’t see the issue with what Olivia Rodrigo did and would not consider it “bragging.” I post vacation pictures on my public Instagram page too, but I guess I’m not a public figure.

Okay, how about “attention seeking”? Particularly if you are a public figure, someone is going to complain about something (or a website is going to pretend that people are complaining about something based on a complete outlier).

Also, you have a public IG page? Do you mind if I ask why?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Me and my family were murdered the last 5 times we went to Mexico.

I wish you could have lived to see some of the tributes written about you on the Board here.

 

[Scoresman]

(2) Maybe consider going on a vacation and not bragging to the world about it on your public IG page?

I don’t see the issue with what Olivia Rodrigo did and would not consider it “bragging.” I post vacation pictures on my public Instagram page too, but I guess I’m not a public figure.

Okay, how about “attention seeking”? Particularly if you are a public figure, someone is going to complain about something (or a website is going to pretend that people are complaining about something based on a complete outlier).

Also, you have a public IG page? Do you mind if I ask why?

Mine's public. I post food photos of things I cook/eat and like it for finding other people who do the same. What's the issue with a public IG?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

(2) Maybe consider going on a vacation and not bragging to the world about it on your public IG page?

I don’t see the issue with what Olivia Rodrigo did and would not consider it “bragging.” I post vacation pictures on my public Instagram page too, but I guess I’m not a public figure.

Okay, how about “attention seeking”? Particularly if you are a public figure, someone is going to complain about something (or a website is going to pretend that people are complaining about something based on a complete outlier).

Also, you have a public IG page? Do you mind if I ask why?

To help spread his anti-windmill agenda

 

[Sand]

We visited Maui last fall and I won't go back - not because some locals asked us not to come back, but because it is too crowded, touristy, and overdeveloped.

Which island? I've been to Kauai and it didn't feel that that at all.

Lol

Just another day in the Sand household, folks.

 

[Terminalxylem]

I‘d prefer less tourists in HI, but I’ll still help you on your deathbed if you make the trip.

 

[bigbottom]

(2) Maybe consider going on a vacation and not bragging to the world about it on your public IG page?

I don’t see the issue with what Olivia Rodrigo did and would not consider it “bragging.” I post vacation pictures on my public Instagram page too, but I guess I’m not a public figure.

Okay, how about “attention seeking”? Particularly if you are a public figure, someone is going to complain about something (or a website is going to pretend that people are complaining about something based on a complete outlier).

Also, you have a public IG page? Do you mind if I ask why?

Mine's public. I post food photos of things I cook/eat and like it for finding other people who do the same. What's the issue with a public IG?

I didn’t say there was an issue with it. I just don’t understand why someone (who wasn’t otherwise trying to curate a public image or had some other business promotional interest) would be motivated to post photos of themselves to strangers, which is why I asked the question.

 

[Don Quixote]

(2) Maybe consider going on a vacation and not bragging to the world about it on your public IG page?

I don’t see the issue with what Olivia Rodrigo did and would not consider it “bragging.” I post vacation pictures on my public Instagram page too, but I guess I’m not a public figure.

Okay, how about “attention seeking”? Particularly if you are a public figure, someone is going to complain about something (or a website is going to pretend that people are complaining about something based on a complete outlier).

Also, you have a public IG page? Do you mind if I ask why?

Mostly post photos of stuff related to my hobbies (such as photography of nature and birds, or history) and have gotten some interactions / new follows based on that. Spammers can be a bit more of a problem on public setting, and it is close on cost/benefit. Try to keep pictures of my kid very limited on there because public, and keep that more to private Facebook.

 

[Drunken knight]

Me and my family were murdered the last 5 times we went to Mexico.

:screamsatsky: damn you Montezuma!

 

[bigbottom]

(2) Maybe consider going on a vacation and not bragging to the world about it on your public IG page?

I don’t see the issue with what Olivia Rodrigo did and would not consider it “bragging.” I post vacation pictures on my public Instagram page too, but I guess I’m not a public figure.

Okay, how about “attention seeking”? Particularly if you are a public figure, someone is going to complain about something (or a website is going to pretend that people are complaining about something based on a complete outlier).

Also, you have a public IG page? Do you mind if I ask why?

Mostly post photos of stuff related to my hobbies (such as photography of nature and birds, or history) and have gotten some interactions / new follows based on that. Spammers can be a bit more of a problem on public setting, and it is close on cost/benefit. Try to keep pictures of my kid very limited on there because public, and keep that more to private Facebook.

Makes total sense. Thanks.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I find this more and more common. I'll see a NY Post Headline that says "Italian Americans outraged over Chris Platt playing Mario" and then click on the story and it's based on 3 or 4 random tweets (not sure how they even know that "Panther Pat" is Italian).

Not even tweets. REPLIES to tweets.

These sites are content farms, and they have entry level people writing trash looking for engagement.

or get halfway through the article and then see the source is, "Reddit poster Patfan38476 said ..."

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Want better journalism? Stop reading and reposting clickbait.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Me and my family were murdered the last 5 times we went to Mexico.

But other than that, how were your stays?

 

[parasaurolophus]

Me and my family were murdered the last 5 times we went to Mexico.

But other than that, how were your stays?

Mostly peaceful I am sure.

 

[supermike80]

last i checked, hawai’i for some reason is a state. so, if people want to screech about 1st and 2nd amendment rights and the like, don’t tell me as a US citizen what states i can visit and live in.

Oh yeah? When did you check that last? Why were you checking to see if Hawaii was a state still? What source did you use to check it last?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Agreed on the clickbait journalism stuff.

On a more serious note, I do get the tension. Especially in a place like Hawaii that has an understandably strained relationship with the US and how they became part of it.

But even for normal situations it's a thing. I live in East Tennessee and we have tons of tourists to the Smoky Mountains. And places like Pigeon Forge and such. I mostly avoid the touristy areas but I understand the frustration with extra traffic and such. And I also get that it helps our economy. LIke lots of things, it's best to get just the right amount but that's not always easy.

 

[Ilov80s]

There are people online saying things? I am shocked.

 

[Ilov80s]

Agreed on the clickbait journalism stuff.

On a more serious note, I do get the tension. Especially in a place like Hawaii that has an understandably strained relationship with the US and how they became part of it.

But even for normal situations it's a thing. I live in East Tennessee and we have tons of tourists to the Smoky Mountains. And places like Pigeon Forge and such. I mostly avoid the touristy areas but I understand the frustration with extra traffic and such. And I also get that it helps our economy. LIke lots of things, it's best to get just the right amount but that's not always easy.

I think the key is when you visit, you should be respectful to the people, culture and environment. You should everywhere but given the history, more so some places.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I think the key is when you visit, you should be respectful to the people, culture and environment. You should everywhere but given the history, more so some places.

For sure. But sometimes, it's just a sheer matter of the number of people. My daughter lived in Maui and after pandemic traffic was insane. Like normal trips taking twice as long as normal. Just because of the sheer number of people there.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

I'm mostly offended that she's in Hawaii and is eating chicken fingers and fries.

 

[Scoresman]

I think the key is when you visit, you should be respectful to the people, culture and environment. You should everywhere but given the history, more so some places.

For sure. But sometimes, it's just a sheer matter of the number of people. My daughter lived in Maui and after pandemic traffic was insane. Like normal trips taking twice as long as normal. Just because of the sheer number of people there.

I don't get the post-pandemic surge. Weren't the resorts always usually full before COVID? I know I could never get a last minute reservation. Where are all these extra people staying?

 

[Chemical X]

imagine adding hawaii to the dining out is expensive thread. poi burger must be around $67.

 

[SWC]

I'm mostly offended that she's in Hawaii and is eating chicken fingers and fries.

what else can she do there are no parneras on the islands so i guess its like the stone age for dining there take that to the bank brohans

 

[Zow]

Me and my family were murdered the last 5 times we went to Mexico.

By the NYC architect serial killer?

 

[Gr00vus]

I do feel a sense of guilt when visiting Hawaii seeing how so much of the land has been bought up and (over?) developed by non-natives, leaving the natives to exist somewhat on the margins in a really expensive environment, while the tourists put a lot of strain on the local ecology. We assume they're better off due to the influx of tourism money, but I wonder sometimes.

 

[massraider]

Agreed on the clickbait journalism stuff.

On a more serious note, I do get the tension. Especially in a place like Hawaii that has an understandably strained relationship with the US and how they became part of it.

But even for normal situations it's a thing. I live in East Tennessee and we have tons of tourists to the Smoky Mountains. And places like Pigeon Forge and such. I mostly avoid the touristy areas but I understand the frustration with extra traffic and such. And I also get that it helps our economy. LIke lots of things, it's best to get just the right amount but that's not always easy.

Communities need to protect the place. Not allowing over development, actually having a strategy.

Venice Italy finally bans cruise ships, then they don't. Never should have allowed in the first place. There's loads of places with guardrails in place to prevent places being ruined.

Ski areas got greedy, and now there's no place for staff to live, and too many visitors for local infrastructure. List of places where local greed ruined the charm are a dime a dozen.

 

[Zow]

I do feel a sense of guilt when visiting Hawaii seeing how so much of the land has been bought up and (over?) developed by non-natives, leaving the natives to exist somewhat on the margins in a really expensive environment, while the tourists put a lot of strain on the local ecology. We assume they're better off due to the influx of tourism money, but I wonder sometimes.

This also very much describes Arizona.

 

[gianmarco]

Europe too

 

[massraider]

Europe too

Amsterdam and Spain both have strategies in place to deter British lads from visiting.

Amsterdam Has a Message for Male Tourists From the U.K.: ‘Stay Away’

In an ad campaign aimed at British men between 18 and 35, the Dutch capital threatens fines for visitors who are looking for a “messy night.”

www.nytimes.com

Lanzarote: Jet2 hits back as Brits told they're no longer welcome

Lanzarote's tourism authorities have announced a new strategy to reduce dependence on British tourists.

www.euronews.com

 

[El Floppo]

I do feel a sense of guilt when visiting Hawaii seeing how so much of the land has been bought up and (over?) developed by non-natives, leaving the natives to exist somewhat on the margins in a really expensive environment, while the tourists put a lot of strain on the local ecology. We assume they're better off due to the influx of tourism money, but I wonder sometimes.

This sounds like what's happened to NYC the last 25 years.