Percy Harvin is NOT this years Chris Johnson (1 Viewer)

[Darko M]

6 games, 20 receptions, 270 total yards, 3 total TDs

...not to mention now he's banged up.

 

[mystykoekaki]

oh yeh, that's just terrible ... cut him already!

 

[jobarules]

Thats pretty good

 

[Banger]

6 games, 20 receptions, 270 total yards, 3 total TDs ...not to mention now he's banged up.

I certainly wouldn't say he's a bust by any stretch.

 

[mozzy84]

6 games, 20 receptions, 270 total yards, 3 total TDs ...not to mention now he's banged up.

yea not a very good kickoff returner either

 

[jurb26]

Well this shouldn't be any surprise. He was one of the most overvalued players in all of fantasy football this year. Or maybe it was just on this board. Either way, his stat line is about what should have been expected. Actually I'd say it's even better than what should have been expected.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

 

[davearm]

Who was expecting Harvin to be this year's Chris Johnson?

 

[jurb26]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

Why even bother doing this? You know very well that this rule for your league greatly changes things and that it is an exception to 90% of the leagues out there. You also know that the OP was in no way referring to leagues such as this.

 

[jon_mx]

As a rookie WR, he is contributing a ton very quickly. Randy Moss was a freak. At one time Sterlin Sharpe catching 55 balls and 1 TD as a rookie was one of the best rookie seasons ever for a WR.

 

[mozzy84]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

Why even bother doing this? You know very well that this rule for your league greatly changes things and that it is an exception to 90% of the leagues out there. You also know that the OP was in no way referring to leagues such as this.

nice huge exaggeration

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

Why even bother doing this? You know very well that this rule for your league greatly changes things and that it is an exception to 90% of the leagues out there. You also know that the OP was in no way referring to leagues such as this.

OK, in a league without return yardage (also non-PPR), he was #30 going into this week, which makes him a solid WR3, which is around the highest expectation where he was drafted, and makes him certainly not bust-worthy.

Sorry that he hasn't been Andre Johnson 6 games into his rookie season.

 

[jurb26]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

Why even bother doing this? You know very well that this rule for your league greatly changes things and that it is an exception to 90% of the leagues out there. You also know that the OP was in no way referring to leagues such as this.

nice huge exaggeration

What would you put the % at then? I play in about 10 leagues and non of them give return yds. I've played in about 50 leagues over my ff career and only 1 ever did and I've played in a lot of strange leagues.Regardless it doesn't change the point that the OP was clearly not referring to such leagues.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

Why even bother doing this? You know very well that this rule for your league greatly changes things and that it is an exception to 90% of the leagues out there. You also know that the OP was in no way referring to leagues such as this.

nice huge exaggeration

What % of leagues do you think give points for return yards? I have a hard time believing it is 10%, let alone so much more that it is ridiculous.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

Why even bother doing this? You know very well that this rule for your league greatly changes things and that it is an exception to 90% of the leagues out there. You also know that the OP was in no way referring to leagues such as this.

nice huge exaggeration

What would you put the % at then? I play in about 10 leagues and non of them give return yds. I've played in about 50 leagues over my ff career and only 1 ever did and I've played in a lot of strange leagues.Regardless it doesn't change the point that the OP was clearly not referring to such leagues.

It also doesn't change the point the the OP is wrong.

 

[Darko M]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

Why even bother doing this? You know very well that this rule for your league greatly changes things and that it is an exception to 90% of the leagues out there. You also know that the OP was in no way referring to leagues such as this.

nice huge exaggeration

I'd venture to say maybe 1% of leagues give points for return yardage.This board made him seem like the second coming of Christ and he's not even startable in 99% of leagues. Just too many weapons in Minnesota.

 

[jurb26]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

Why even bother doing this? You know very well that this rule for your league greatly changes things and that it is an exception to 90% of the leagues out there. You also know that the OP was in no way referring to leagues such as this.

nice huge exaggeration

What would you put the % at then? I play in about 10 leagues and non of them give return yds. I've played in about 50 leagues over my ff career and only 1 ever did and I've played in a lot of strange leagues.Regardless it doesn't change the point that the OP was clearly not referring to such leagues.

It also doesn't change the point the the OP is wrong.

No, he's not.

 

[Ladsud]

Blame yourself for buying the hype. For a ROOKIE RECEIVER hes having a hell of a year. What do you expect, 1000 yds and 10td from a rook?

 

[jurb26]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

Why even bother doing this? You know very well that this rule for your league greatly changes things and that it is an exception to 90% of the leagues out there. You also know that the OP was in no way referring to leagues such as this.

nice huge exaggeration

I'd venture to say maybe 1% of leagues give points for return yardage.This board made him seem like the second coming of Christ and he's not even startable in 99% of leagues. Just too many weapons in Minnesota.

Yeah, I was thinking I was be generous to be honest.

 

[jon_mx]

Blame yourself for buying the hype. For a ROOKIE RECEIVER hes having a hell of a year. What do you expect, 1000 yds and 10td from a rook?

It has happened once and none others have even come close as far as i know.

 

[Darko M]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

Why even bother doing this? You know very well that this rule for your league greatly changes things and that it is an exception to 90% of the leagues out there. You also know that the OP was in no way referring to leagues such as this.

OK, in a league without return yardage (also non-PPR), he was #30 going into this week, which makes him a solid WR3, which is around the highest expectation where he was drafted, and makes him certainly not bust-worthy.

Sorry that he hasn't been Andre Johnson 6 games into his rookie season.

After this week he'll be in the 40-45(?) range...nothing more than a bye week guy in 3WR leagues. The pre season hype certainly made him seem more special than a bye week receiver.

 

[jurb26]

The bottom line is that many people around here were calling for Harvin to see 50+ rushes and in the ball park of 60 receptions for the year. He's no where near that pace and it would be remarkable for any rookie to reach those numbers.

If you don't believe this then search it for yourself.

 

[joffer]

seems to be doing ok to me

 

[jon_mx]

Jerry Rice...49 cathes, 927 yards, 3 tds...

Terrell Owens did not go for 1,000 yards and 10-plus touchdowns until his third year. Marvin Harrison broke out in his fourth season.

 

[gianmarco]

Jerry Rice...49 cathes, 927 yards, 3 tds... Terrell Owens did not go for 1,000 yards and 10-plus touchdowns until his third year. Marvin Harrison broke out in his fourth season.

PLEASE tell me you're not implying what I think you're implying.....

 

[Gopher State]

6 games, 20 receptions, 270 total yards, 3 total TDs ...not to mention now he's banged up.

Didn't draft Harvin in your draft?????Maybe next year

 

[Hooper31]

This board made him seem like ...

This board? When you start an argument/justification for your assertions with "this board", you have to know you're pretty deep into delusional territory. Aren't there a select few members you would rather direct your rant towards?

 

[Darko M]

Blame yourself for buying the hype. For a ROOKIE RECEIVER hes having a hell of a year. What do you expect, 1000 yds and 10td from a rook?

I expected a 20% bump in his current #s, putting him in the top 24 in a PPR. Also note Favre is locking in on Rice and Berrian, Harvin is far from the #1 receiving weapon on that team.It's not like people didn't predict that there were too many weapons on that team, or that his predictions were far too lofty, but they were severely out numbered by the people that thought he was gold. "Jump on him early" was posted with frequency.

 

[jon_mx]

Jerry Rice...49 cathes, 927 yards, 3 tds... Terrell Owens did not go for 1,000 yards and 10-plus touchdowns until his third year. Marvin Harrison broke out in his fourth season.

PLEASE tell me you're not implying what I think you're implying.....

I am implying that you can't judge a WR until year 3. Steve Smith of the Giants is in his third year. Nicks is phenomenal for a rookie

 

[thatguy]

I think most of the hype was geared toward his dynasty value... I didn't expect a ton of production form him this season but his dynasty prospects are still very bright.

 

[thatguy]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

Why even bother doing this? You know very well that this rule for your league greatly changes things and that it is an exception to 90% of the leagues out there. You also know that the OP was in no way referring to leagues such as this.

It's better than the guy starting a thread just to bash the guy. There are plenty of Percy Harvin threads out there where he could have posted this incredibly thoughful and insightful blurb.

 

[GSWarriors]

The bottom line is that many people around here were calling for Harvin to see 50+ rushes and in the ball park of 60 receptions for the year. He's no where near that pace and it would be remarkable for any rookie to reach those numbers.If you don't believe this then search it for yourself.

The bottom line is SEASON's not over YET. Some guys are under their pace like Harvin, some guys are over like Burleson. Harvin will be in 20-30 range by season's end.

 

[Banger]

The bottom line is that many people around here were calling for Harvin to see 50+ rushes and in the ball park of 60 receptions for the year. He's no where near that pace and it would be remarkable for any rookie to reach those numbers.If you don't believe this then search it for yourself.

The bottom line is SEASON's not over YET. Some guys are under their pace like Harvin, some guys are over like Burleson. Harvin will be in 20-30 range by season's end.

Harvin has a pace?

 

[Zow]

Blame yourself for buying the hype. For a ROOKIE RECEIVER hes having a hell of a year. What do you expect, 1000 yds and 10td from a rook?

I expected a 20% bump in his current #s, putting him in the top 24 in a PPR. Also note Favre is locking in on Rice and Berrian, Harvin is far from the #1 receiving weapon on that team.It's not like people didn't predict that there were too many weapons on that team, or that his predictions were far too lofty, but they were severely out numbered by the people that thought he was gold. "Jump on him early" was posted with frequency.

I would take that to mean to the reasonable fantasy owner to take him before like the 13th or 14th round - where early draft pick WRs usually start to come off the board. You know, like as your WR3 and the production that, you know, he is giving right now. I also know being a Vikings fan that Harvin was really hurt this week. I also know Favre loves the kid and has a history of passing to whoever is open. I also know Rice and Berrian are playing very well so they are going to get there's. I also know Favre is a top 5 QB of all-time and with defense's keying on the best back in football the Vikes are going to put up passing numbers.

I also know that as a Vikings fan I'm very supportive of the choice and happy with Harvin being our first round draft pick this year and love watching the guy play.

 

[Darko M]

Blame yourself for buying the hype. For a ROOKIE RECEIVER hes having a hell of a year. What do you expect, 1000 yds and 10td from a rook?

I expected a 20% bump in his current #s, putting him in the top 24 in a PPR. Also note Favre is locking in on Rice and Berrian, Harvin is far from the #1 receiving weapon on that team.It's not like people didn't predict that there were too many weapons on that team, or that his predictions were far too lofty, but they were severely out numbered by the people that thought he was gold. "Jump on him early" was posted with frequency.

I would take that to mean to the reasonable fantasy owner to take him before like the 13th or 14th round - where early draft pick WRs usually start to come off the board. You know, like as your WR3 and the production that, you know, he is giving right now. I also know being a Vikings fan that Harvin was really hurt this week. I also know Favre loves the kid and has a history of passing to whoever is open. I also know Rice and Berrian are playing very well so they are going to get there's. I also know Favre is a top 5 QB of all-time and with defense's keying on the best back in football the Vikes are going to put up passing numbers.

I also know that as a Vikings fan I'm very supportive of the choice and happy with Harvin being our first round draft pick this year and love watching the guy play.

I also love the Vikings but in most fantasy leagues Harvin is not a starter.

 

[LittlePhatty]

What % of leagues do you think give points for return yards? I have a hard time believing it is 10%, let alone so much more that it is ridiculous.

Good question. If it is an IDP league, return yards make sense. And having played IDP for the past three years (w/return yards) I'll never go back to team D/ST.

 

[Zow]

What % of leagues do you think give points for return yards? I have a hard time believing it is 10%, let alone so much more that it is ridiculous.

Good question. If it is an IDP league, return yards make sense. And having played IDP for the past three years (w/return yards) I'll never go back to team D/ST.

Why does it have to be an IDP league? Several offensive players return punts and kicks as well.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Why does it have to be an IDP league? Several offensive players return punts and kicks as well.

I didn't say it HAD to be, I was just saying if it IS and IDP league then return yards makes even more sense. It's such a clear cut way to score - players get points for everything they do on the field.Of course you can do return yards without IDP.But if you use D/ST, well, return yards and return TDs come on special teams.There are some leagues out there that wouldn't award Harvin points for his kick return TD - they would go to the Vikings D/ST owner. I prefer the IDP way.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Harvin's pace of 20-270-3 equates to 53-720-8 over 16 games.

Very familiar names in this query result.

 

[kdt]

where's the post that equated harvin to 424? i'd like to read that...

 

[BobbyLayne]

where's the post that equated harvin to 424? i'd like to read that...

Oh its epic

 

[kdt]

funny thread

i wonder if they realized harvin is a WR

 

[Tanner9919]

Blame yourself for buying the hype. For a ROOKIE RECEIVER hes having a hell of a year. What do you expect, 1000 yds and 10td from a rook?

yeah I think that's exactly what he and others thought they'd get out of Harvin this year..too many people were too high on him,and now that they realize he's going to catch no more than 40-some balls this year, they're frustrated..breakouts don't happen with rookie WR's every year..Harvin is doing a heck of a job, but he's not Colston or Dwayne Bowe, other NFL Wr's who broke out during their rookie seasons.. and then there's that `Florida WR` thing........

 

[jurb26]

Blame yourself for buying the hype. For a ROOKIE RECEIVER hes having a hell of a year. What do you expect, 1000 yds and 10td from a rook?

yeah I think that's exactly what he and others thought they'd get out of Harvin this year..too many people were too high on him,and now that they realize he's going to catch no more than 40-some balls this year, they're frustrated..breakouts don't happen with rookie WR's every year..Harvin is doing a heck of a job, but he's not Colston or Dwayne Bowe, other NFL Wr's who broke out during their rookie seasons.. and then there's that `Florida WR` thing........

I think the largest disconnect with many Harvin backers is not what he is doing as a WR (because those numbers are actually very respectable for a rookie IMO) but the complete over-exaggeration of projected rushing numbers. We repeatedly saw projections of over 50 rushes heading into this season. Well, Harvin is currently on pace for 16 carries and 36 yds this season. I don't know why people expected so much, but they did.

 

[gianmarco]

Blame yourself for buying the hype. For a ROOKIE RECEIVER hes having a hell of a year. What do you expect, 1000 yds and 10td from a rook?

yeah I think that's exactly what he and others thought they'd get out of Harvin this year..too many people were too high on him,and now that they realize he's going to catch no more than 40-some balls this year, they're frustrated..breakouts don't happen with rookie WR's every year..Harvin is doing a heck of a job, but he's not Colston or Dwayne Bowe, other NFL Wr's who broke out during their rookie seasons.. and then there's that `Florida WR` thing........

I think the largest disconnect with many Harvin backers is not what he is doing as a WR (because those numbers are actually very respectable for a rookie IMO) but the complete over-exaggeration of projected rushing numbers. We repeatedly saw projections of over 50 rushes heading into this season. Well, Harvin is currently on pace for 16 carries and 36 yds this season. I don't know why people expected so much, but they did.

I think he's looked great as a WR so far and he's done quite well for a rookie, IMO. It was the HUGE expectations in the rushing department despite the fact that only a handful of WR's have ever rushed for 50-60 attempts in a year. "That's only 3-4 rushes/game" was the argument.All that being said, Harvin is definitely a guy to own in dynasty, IMO. His talent is unmistakable.

 

[jon_mx]

The only way Harvin could have gotten very many carries is if Farve was not on the team. Then the team might have had to resort to gimmicks to get the ball to him. But with Farve in the offense, the best way to get him the ball is to throw it to him. So far he is looking like a great addition to the Vikings. But he may not be a great fantasy player unless Farve hangs around. Harvin should be the to go to guy next year.

 

[jurb26]

The only way Harvin could have gotten very many carries is if Farve was not on the team. Then the team might have had to resort to gimmicks to get the ball to him. But with Farve in the offense, the best way to get him the ball is to throw it to him. So far he is looking like a great addition to the Vikings. But he may not be a great fantasy player unless Farve hangs around. Harvin should be the to go to guy next year.

Huh, I think Rice has clearly cemented himself as the go to guy in Minn.

 

[munchkin]

In my non-PPR league that gives points for return yardage, he was the #8 WR going into this week.

You're right, he sucks

Why even bother doing this? You know very well that this rule for your league greatly changes things and that it is an exception to 90% of the leagues out there. You also know that the OP was in no way referring to leagues such as this.

I think it's pretty safe to say that Harvin is just one piece in a pretty colorful puzzle while Chris Johnson is the only piece of consequence on a team that is going no-where. Further, Johnson is having his problems finding room this year with the passing game in Tennessee displaying an ineptitude capped by yesterdays 2 reception 20 drop day. As usual, coaches are not concerned with our fantasy teams. Harvin will be given every chance to succeed; after all, Childress STOLE him from the Patriots in a draft day coup that Childress was only to happy to announce to the media.

 

[Multiple Scores]

I don't expect much from rookie WRS. I think Harvin has been very good. If people are expecting rookie WRS to be studs right off the bat then they must be new to football, it doesn't happen all the time, Jerry Rice didn't light the world on fire his rookie season, all he did was get boo'd for drops, how'd that work out?

 

[LittlePhatty]

In reality Harvin does have breakout kind of talent and he's helping the Vikings win games.

On a Fantasy level, I'm not sure who would have expected him to have Chris Johnson-like stats - especially as a WR for the Vikings, and even more so when that comparison was made while everyone still thought Tarvaris Jackson was going to be their QB.

To use the word "bust" makes me think you're just posting to stir up the pot. Nice job, have fun on the internetz.