Pete Rose (1 Viewer)

[shuke]

He's already in, morons.

 

[dickey moe]

He's already in, morons.

 

[Limp Ditka]

He's already in, morons.

 

[biggamer3]

He's already in, morons.

 

[Big Papi]

Isn't Pete to the point where he would have to be voted in by the Veterans Committe now? That pretty much means that they will either change the rules for how to get in just for him, or he'll be dead before he's eligible for the VC to vote him in (not that they ever agree enough to vote anyone in).

 

[Limp Ditka]

Isn't Pete to the point where he would have to be voted in by the Veterans Committe now? That pretty much means that they will either change the rules for how to get in just for him, or he'll be dead before he's eligible for the VC to vote him in (not that they ever agree enough to vote anyone in).

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Hall of Fame Eligibility

On February 4, 1991, the Hall of Fame voted to formally exclude individuals on the permanently ineligible list from being inducted into the Hall of Fame. Rose is the only living member of the ineligible list. The Hall changed this later in the decade, and players on the ineligible list can be considered by the Veterans Committee in the first year after they would have lost their place on the Baseball Writers Association of America's ballot. Under the Hall's rules, players may appear on the ballot for only fifteen years, beginning five years after they retire. Had he not been banned from baseball, Rose's name could have been on the writers' ballot beginning in 1992 and ending in 2006.[3] He would have been eligible for consideration by the Veterans Committee in 2007, but did not appear on the ballot. [4]

 

[Saints-Man]

All evidence points to him only betting on his team...never against it...if there was proof of him betting against his team then I'd say fine, vote him in after he's dead with a huge asterisk by his bust, but since there is no evidence he voted against his team it's pretty f'ing ridiculous he's not in.

Yes he's a tool and probably not even a good person, but at this point it's a grudge that has lasted way too long.

This could be extremely harmful to a team, LHUCKS.

 

[greenroom]

Bottom line what he did as a player gets him into the Hall of Fame for Baseball. The Hall of Fame is not who is the best person outside of baseball it is for what you did on the field. And to be the all time hits leader is Hall of Fame material.

And for Bud Selig to be the one to keep him out is just wrong. Mr. Bud has killed baseball more than Pete ever could. And for those that says that Rose ruined the credibility or the integrity of the game is just wrong. The MLB has investigated and says that Rose did not harm the game in any way when he managed, by "Fixing" games.

But we can see that Selig has "Fixed" baseball with the steroid era. He had to know what the players were doing and turned a blind eye or did not care. As long as the Fans were coming to see Bonds, McGuire and Sosa hit the long ball to get Baseball on the map after the Strike Year.

Without the Steroid era Baseball would be just like the NHL as a sport that no one cares about after its strike.

But I personally do not think Rose should get in till he passes away so that way he can not cash in for being a HOF.

 

[Das Boot]

X

No.

He bet on baseball while he was the manager of a baseball team.

Duh.

 

[flapgreen]

Why even say anything? Pete Rose is an idiot.

 

[Kleck]

I agree that he should go in... after he is dead.

Joe Jackson too?I don't think he gets in. Ever. Deserves? Maybe, but I don't think they ever let him in. Lots of those owners loved Giamatti. Many blame his heart attack on Rose. Logical? Not really, but I don't see any reason that the status quo will change.

 

[PatsWillWin]

For a long time, I always thought Rose should be for what he accomplished as a player. But I think he's been killing himself with how he has handled this entire thing.

First he comes out and admits to gambling but adamantly denies betting on his own team. Nobody with half a brain really believes him, but fine.

So now he comes out admitting he bet on his own team - but maintains that he bet EVERY NIGHT...EVERY NIGHT (he said it so many times it was almost comical). So now we're supposed to believe that because he bet on his own team every night, there wasn't a conflict of interest between his managing and his gambling? That somehow makes it okay? Putting aside the fact that I don't believe him that he bet EVERY NIGHT, people here have already mentioned how trying to win every game as hard as you can can conflict with a manager's job of also thinking long-term over the course of a season - throwing in your closer 5 nights in a row, for example, because you have a sawbuck on your own team is a conflict of interest right there just as severe, in my opinion, as betting on the other team and THROWING the game.

I basically think this guy is a scumbag, and the idea of having a HOF induction ceremony just makes me think it would be making a mockery of the HOF. I'm aware that there are racists and domestic abusers already in the Hall, but I just don't view the HOF as something that is consistent anyway.

I don't think Rose will get in, and I don't think he should. He should've came completely clean all at once awhile ago - "riddling confession brings but riddling shrift."

 

[Koya]

Pete Rose - a scumbag's scumbag.

 

[jafo]

I agree that he should go in... after he is dead.

Joe Jackson too?I don't think he gets in. Ever.

Deserves? Maybe, but I don't think they ever let him in. Lots of those owners loved Giamatti. Many blame his heart attack on Rose. Logical? Not really, but I don't see any reason that the status quo will change.

I blame the cheeseburgers.

 

[jafo]

Scumbag or not Pete Rose is one of the greatest players in all of baseball. He should be in the HOF, and I'd love to see him manage the game again.

 

[whitem0nkey]

Pete Rose's Corked Bat

 

[Guster]

Before the corked bat incident I would have bet (pun intended) that Pete would make the HoF as part of the Veteran's Committee (so most likely after his death). There was always the argument out there that while he bet as a manager, his body of work as a player wasn't tainted. Now there's proof (?) that he cheated... oof! It sucks because while I only watched the end of his career, he was fun to watch and you had to respect the hustle. I still believe that he probably only did this in his last season because he was getting old and was only playing to pile on the hits to get the record.

That said, this would be proof that he cheated AND bet on baseball... no way he gets in.

 

[Limp Ditka]

The guy is pure filth. Saw him in the Forum Shops at Caesar's the other week and just shook my head at the idiots actually paying to have him sign stuff.

 

[shuke]

Well, that sucks.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Before the corked bat incident I would have bet (pun intended) that Pete would make the HoF as part of the Veteran's Committee (so most likely after his death). There was always the argument out there that while he bet as a manager, his body of work as a player wasn't tainted. Now there's proof (?) that he cheated... oof! It sucks because while I only watched the end of his career, he was fun to watch and you had to respect the hustle. I still believe that he probably only did this in his last season because he was getting old and was only playing to pile on the hits to get the record.That said, this would be proof that he cheated AND bet on baseball... no way he gets in.

You don't think the several years he wrote his unproductive name into the lineup everyday for the purpose of the personal glory of the hits record wasn't cheating the game?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Before the corked bat incident I would have bet (pun intended) that Pete would make the HoF as part of the Veteran's Committee (so most likely after his death). There was always the argument out there that while he bet as a manager, his body of work as a player wasn't tainted. Now there's proof (?) that he cheated... oof! It sucks because while I only watched the end of his career, he was fun to watch and you had to respect the hustle. I still believe that he probably only did this in his last season because he was getting old and was only playing to pile on the hits to get the record.That said, this would be proof that he cheated AND bet on baseball... no way he gets in.

You don't think the several years he wrote his unproductive name into the lineup everyday for the purpose of the personal glory of the hits record wasn't cheating the game?

Not to mention hurting his chances of winning his bet.

 

[Timmay]

He should be in regardless of what he bet on, what bat he corked. I dont believe he corked his bat, i dont care how much "proof" there is out there, he was one of the best if not the best hitters in baseball. That takes more than just a corked bat, if that was even true, also did he cork every bat, etc. I believe he bet on baseball, but that was when he was a manager, that didnt reflect the way he played the game when he was a player. He should be in the HOF as a Player.

 

[Limp Ditka]

He should be in regardless of what he bet on, what bat he corked. I dont believe he corked his bat, i dont care how much "proof" there is out there, he was one of the best if not the best hitters in baseball. That takes more than just a corked bat, if that was even true, also did he cork every bat, etc. I believe he bet on baseball, but that was when he was a manager, that didnt reflect the way he played the game when he was a player. He should be in the HOF as a Player.

As long as the wing of shame is open, I'm all good with him being included in the HOF

 

[Bojang0301]

Guy is scum. Why does everyone always want to stand idly by and allow guys like Pete in? What in his character says he didn't throw games and even if he did bet on his team he would still have to cover a spread. Why wouldn't he put out a mediocre reliever to cover the spread or change his lineup? He is a cheater who cares about one person... himself. I hope Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Mark McGuire all rot outside the hall with Pete.