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The Special Director's Extended Cut "Never Before Seen" Blu-Ray Producer's Special Trilogy Pack will be named The "There and Back Again" Special Edition Set.
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Peter Jackson to make The Hobbit (1 Viewer)
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NewlyRetired
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Peter Jackson announced that the extended edition of Desolation of Smaug will contain 25 additional minutes.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
ok so 5 armies?
orcs
elves
dwarves
Men
whos the 5th army?
orcs
elves
dwarves
Men
whos the 5th army?
Mad Cow
Welshers and Dawdlers Beware!
The giant eagles
NewlyRetired
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VA703
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NewlyRetired
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Just finished watching the extended edition of DOS. It had some very good additions, especially the Thrane plot.
If you won't be watching but are interested in seeing what the additions were, this link has everything that was added.
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/10/21/93175-the-hobbit-the-desolation-of-smaug-extended-edition-scene-guide/3/
If you won't be watching but are interested in seeing what the additions were, this link has everything that was added.
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/10/21/93175-the-hobbit-the-desolation-of-smaug-extended-edition-scene-guide/3/
NewlyRetired
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Is anyone going to opening night for Battle?
Since it is one a Wednesday, I won't be since it is a school night for my daughter so we will be going on the Friday.
Since it is one a Wednesday, I won't be since it is a school night for my daughter so we will be going on the Friday.
parasaurolophus
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EYLive
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I went to the premier (and after-party) last night. LOOK AT ME!
It's a good fun movie.
It's a good fun movie.
- I wish there was a little bit more Smaug, but his role was very impressive and looked great in 3D.
- The romance between Tauriel and Kili is still dumb and feels tacked on.
- Battle/fight scenes were very cool. The various giant ogres and orcs are awesome.
- There were no wargs in this movie
. I guess the eagles or maybe the second orc army count as the 5th army. - The ending didn't drag on forever.
cstu
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I'm not a huge fan of LOTR/Hobbit (seen them all though) and would give it 9/10. Think it would be 10/10 for fans though since really nothing I had a problem with (ok, for the second movie in a row how about just having the invincible eagles fight all the battles?). Didn't mind the romance, not necessary but it added some depth to what would have been cardboard characters.I went to the premier (and after-party) last night. LOOK AT ME!
It's a good fun movie.
- I wish there was a little bit more Smaug, but his role was very impressive and looked great in 3D.
- The romance between Tauriel and Kili is still dumb and feels tacked on.
- Battle/fight scenes were very cool. The various giant ogres and orcs are awesome.
- There were no wargs in this movie
- The ending didn't drag on forever.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I can see that.
I love both a ton, but Hobbit is much lighter and more flowing than the heavier, sometimes slower moving LOTR.
BigSteelThrill
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Just got back.
Really liked it. Much better overall then the other 2. A far more serious tone throughout. The battle and fight scenes are top notch.
Not a perfect movie by any stretch, and I can see how some might not like it. But I wish all 3 had been along then same "feel" as 5 Armies.
Really liked it. Much better overall then the other 2. A far more serious tone throughout. The battle and fight scenes are top notch.
Not a perfect movie by any stretch, and I can see how some might not like it. But I wish all 3 had been along then same "feel" as 5 Armies.
Quez
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CletiusMaximus
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I read the Hobbit to my son when he was 8, and we both loved it (it was my first re-read of the Hobbit since I first read it about 20 years or so earlier). Now that he's 10, I'm just starting to consider reading LOTR with him. I'm reluctant because I think it still might be too dense in parts.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
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I caught the third film (the first of the three I've seen in the theater) yesterday. All three films have stuff I like, but I find them all to be less than the sum of their parts.
I do think the movies are too bloated, even if some of the additions provide some of the better moments of the movies in isolation. Unlike some others, I didn't hate Tauriel.
EDIT for those who have apparently never read The Hobbit.
I do think the movies are too bloated, even if some of the additions provide some of the better moments of the movies in isolation. Unlike some others, I didn't hate Tauriel.
EDIT for those who have apparently never read The Hobbit.
I did think that sticking Legolas in as a kind-sorta third wheel in a love triangle undermined what they were trying to do with Tauriel and Keli. And I felt that was most evident in the third movie where Keli's death is largely a prelude to another "Legolas is a badass" setpiece.
I'm not a Tolkien geek, but I have reread the Hobbit recently and I just found Gandalf's subplot to be a huge distraction. It felt like an excuse to not have Ian McKellen missing from the films for long stretches. I understand the impulse to want to connect the prequels to the earlier trilogy, but it just felt pro forma to me. I didn't need it.
I also think that breaking up the movies they way they did kind of undermined some of the emotional arc on a per movie basis. For me, Bilbo's sadness at Thorin's death just doesn't have the same impact when Thorin has spent the entire movie acting like a #####. I understand that I'm supposed to look at it as a complete story cycle, but story beats also have to work within the context of a standalone movie.
I'm not a Tolkien geek, but I have reread the Hobbit recently and I just found Gandalf's subplot to be a huge distraction. It felt like an excuse to not have Ian McKellen missing from the films for long stretches. I understand the impulse to want to connect the prequels to the earlier trilogy, but it just felt pro forma to me. I didn't need it.
I also think that breaking up the movies they way they did kind of undermined some of the emotional arc on a per movie basis. For me, Bilbo's sadness at Thorin's death just doesn't have the same impact when Thorin has spent the entire movie acting like a #####. I understand that I'm supposed to look at it as a complete story cycle, but story beats also have to work within the context of a standalone movie.
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Todem
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Agreed. I read the books several times (LOTR and The Hobbit) and know all about it but a lot of people may not have read the books and know key plot points.
Sloppy posting man.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
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I'll edit, but I don't generally believe in posting spoilers for works that have been out 75 years.
This is a thread about the movies, right? I haven't read the books in 20 years and had forgotten many of the details.
cstu
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The last part is an example of why it would have been better to wait to watch all 3 movies when this one came out. I wasn't able to do it and instead watched 1 and 2 back to back.
NewlyRetired
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Yikes! I am glad I did not see that. It has been more than 30 years for me and I have no idea what is going to happen.
Jayrod
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NewlyRetired
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When Hobbit 1 came out, and was very light in tone, many of us speculated that the whole series would not be that way.
2 was certainly more serious than 1, and it sounds like 3 is more serious than 2 so the progression makes sense.
Watching all 3 extended additions together over a few day period will likely be very enjoyable for me.
EYLive
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You could say it's more serious... or just more graphic due to the heavy battle scenes. I'd compare it to the Two Towers.
cstu
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LOTR comes off as too nerdy and involved fantasy/rennfaire/D&D. It's annoying. The Hobbit movies don't have that feel to me.
NewlyRetired
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I can see that. Hopefully you can acknowledge that many feel they are great movies as well.
Todem
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Agreed, The LOTR trilogy rivals the other great trilogy's like Star Wars (original of course) and Indiana Jones (excluding Crystal Skull of course) in epic, scope, character, action. Those movies have it all. I love the extended versions and yes they are a little long winded. But that is also part of the charm for me. And it sure makes playing Skyrim even better after watching those flicks LOL.
The Hobbit trilogy thus far has been good. Can't wait to see the finale Saturday night in the IMAX theater (I had seen the previous 2 on IMAX and it is a treat).
netnalp
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The complaints I heard of the Hobbit was the first movie taking too long to get going out of Bag End. I think that gets lessened when you consider whole trilogy. Just recently saw the extended versions. I didn't care for the extended version of the first movie. Seems like there is mainly a musical number by the Goblin King added in. That took me out of the movie and seemed out of place. I did like the extended version of the second movie.
LOTR, love those movies but I'm finding more and more when I re-watch that trilogy, I end Return of the King after the ceremony with Aragorn getting crowned. It just goes for too long after that.
LOTR, love those movies but I'm finding more and more when I re-watch that trilogy, I end Return of the King after the ceremony with Aragorn getting crowned. It just goes for too long after that.
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Jayrod
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I'm still pissed they didn't show the 4 hobbits returning to the Shire and cleaning up the joint like Stephen Segal. Apparently Jackson thought it was "cheesy" and so he excluded it from the movies.
Todem
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Agreed. Probably the most long winded ending ever. They should have stopped it there. But I understand why they did not. Being true to the books.
netnalp
Footballguy
I think part of adding the subplot stuff is to add some of what happened in the Similarion as well since there won't be a movie of that.
I do think the movies are way better than the books. I've stopped and started the LOTR several times. Finally finished the first two books. But it's been more chore than pleasure. And this genre is what I mostly read.
netnalp
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I think the best choice Jackson made was to not include Tom Bombadil. I hate that character so much!
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Jayrod
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I agree with this.
But still wanted a Shire purging on screen. Of course dealing with Grima Wormtongue and Saruman differently made it less necessary, but I think it was better how it was written.
NewlyRetired
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It was very slow with all the good byes at the boat.
The perfect ending for me would have been "my friends, you bow to no one".
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NewlyRetired
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I agree that the first extended edition does not add much at all. The only extended/new scene I loved in the first EE was the extended scene talking about the rings in the white council.
The second EE was excellent all around.
I saw on the LOTR wiki that Battle of the 5 Armies will have 30 additional minutes.
netnalp
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Or even skip showing them having gone back to the shire, then the boat and back to the shire. I'd have gone coronation to the boats and then as the credits roll, show Sam greeting his family.
