Peter Jackson to make The Hobbit (2 Viewers)

[(HULK)]

Cool- more witchcraft, fantasy and sorcery. Bring the kids...

Is this post sarcastic? I kind of hope so.

expedition IMO.

Really? So the LOTR and the Hobbit are not about witchcraft, fantasy and sorcery? Wizards, Trolls, magic rings, flesh eating hobbits? Dwarves and Elves?

Tolkein was a devout roman catholic, and the books are as much about the power of good triumphing over evil as they are about "flesh eating hobbits"

Well if you want to look at it from this perspective:1.) Roman Catholics practice pagan traditions2.) The gospels talk in depth about good vs. evil- anything wrong with the Truth over fantasy?

QUESTION!Powermoster, do you celebrate Christmas? Thanks.

I do not recognize Christmas as being the birth of Christ and I do see the flim flam of all it's traditions as being typical pagan nonsense....

So, you don't see relatives, eat a big meal, or go to Church on Christmas? You don't exchange gifts, or have a Christmas tree, or kiss your wife under mistletoe?You do nothing you do not normally do on December 25th?

 

[shining path]

Yeah, this is fishing.

 

[Buckychudd]

I hope the Hobbit is more exciting than the LOTR movies. What a snoozefest.

What?!? Infinitely better than the Star Wars prequels.

Well duh.Seriously. I watched the Two Towers Extended Edition over the weekend with my kids and I thought i was going to fall asleep (until the Battle of Helm's Deep, that is.)

The movies definitely stretched, but Jackson was trying to capture the tone of the books.

The books are boring too?(Boring isn't quite the right word. Self-important might be better.)

Yes, the books are extremely boring.....although they got better as they went on (with the Hobbit being the best of the four). And the movies got progressively worse (I loved The Fellowship and thought the other two were meh).

 

[Andy Dufresne]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

You don't know much about C.S. Lewis, do you?

 

[Power Monster]

Cool- more witchcraft, fantasy and sorcery. Bring the kids...

Is this post sarcastic? I kind of hope so.

expedition IMO.

Really? So the LOTR and the Hobbit are not about witchcraft, fantasy and sorcery? Wizards, Trolls, magic rings, flesh eating hobbits? Dwarves and Elves?

Tolkein was a devout roman catholic, and the books are as much about the power of good triumphing over evil as they are about "flesh eating hobbits"

Well if you want to look at it from this perspective:1.) Roman Catholics practice pagan traditions2.) The gospels talk in depth about good vs. evil- anything wrong with the Truth over fantasy?

QUESTION!Powermoster, do you celebrate Christmas? Thanks.

I do not recognize Christmas as being the birth of Christ and I do see the flim flam of all it's traditions as being typical pagan nonsense....

So, you don't see relatives, eat a big meal, or go to Church on Christmas? You don't exchange gifts, or have a Christmas tree, or kiss your wife under mistletoe?You do nothing you do not normally do on December 25th?

Oohh I, like yourself, spend the next two weeks enjoying time with family, we eat meals we give each other a gift but I have no use for trees, or yules or Santa or elves or egg nog or to think that this is a day of celebrating the birth of Christ.

 

[Power Monster]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

You don't know much about C.S. Lewis, do you?

I know enough about false doctrine from flim flam types like Lewis and Tolkien......

 

[snitwitch]

isn't this old news?also, it doesn't look like Jackson is going to direct these.

As far as I knew, this news just came out in the last couple days.No, he is not. He is the executive producer. He's not directing, but there is still hope with him as EP.

He will direct.

link?

Just a prediction.

 

[El Floppo]

Whoopee, I say. (no sarcasm... really)

Jackson can probably use out-takes from LOR and whip this thing together in a couple of weeks.

 

[Power Monster]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

that's rich.

That is golden advice. Bank it baby....

 

[snitwitch]

Yes, the battle of the Pelennor Fields is what occured in the End of LOTR, which sucked(mostly because it didn't follow the books, but the ghosts were a cop out). The Battle of the 5 armies occurs at the end of the Hobbit which, since there are two films, we won't see until 2011. It has a lot of potential though. There is a lot more fighting throughout the Hobbit than the LOTR trilogy which may make it not as "boring" at times.

The ghost army ruined it for me.

Yeah, that really pissed me off when I watched the movie. In the book, the ghost army only helped clear the southern lands so that more human help could come to Pelennor. Would've been more appropriate to keep it this way in the book. This, and the omission of the "Scouring of the Shire" really ruined the third movie for me.

This was the worst omission from the movies IMO. It tied the whole story together.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

You don't know much about C.S. Lewis, do you?

I know enough about false doctrine from flim flam types like Lewis and Tolkien......

Okay.

 

[Power Monster]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

You don't know much about C.S. Lewis, do you?

I know enough about false doctrine from flim flam types like Lewis and Tolkien......

Okay.

No problem. Anytime I can shed some light on the phonies.....

 

[rick6668]

Yes, the battle of the Pelennor Fields is what occured in the End of LOTR, which sucked(mostly because it didn't follow the books, but the ghosts were a cop out). The Battle of the 5 armies occurs at the end of the Hobbit which, since there are two films, we won't see until 2011. It has a lot of potential though. There is a lot more fighting throughout the Hobbit than the LOTR trilogy which may make it not as "boring" at times.

The ghost army ruined it for me.

Yeah, that really pissed me off when I watched the movie. In the book, the ghost army only helped clear the southern lands so that more human help could come to Pelennor. Would've been more appropriate to keep it this way in the book. This, and the omission of the "Scouring of the Shire" really ruined the third movie for me.

This was the worst omission from the movies IMO. It tied the whole story together.

"Scouring" is probably my favorite part in LOTR.

 

[shining path]

Whoopee, I say. (no sarcasm... really)

Thank god. We're having some problems with sarcasm in this thread.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Yes, the battle of the Pelennor Fields is what occured in the End of LOTR, which sucked(mostly because it didn't follow the books, but the ghosts were a cop out). The Battle of the 5 armies occurs at the end of the Hobbit which, since there are two films, we won't see until 2011. It has a lot of potential though. There is a lot more fighting throughout the Hobbit than the LOTR trilogy which may make it not as "boring" at times.

The ghost army ruined it for me.

Yeah, that really pissed me off when I watched the movie. In the book, the ghost army only helped clear the southern lands so that more human help could come to Pelennor. Would've been more appropriate to keep it this way in the book. This, and the omission of the "Scouring of the Shire" really ruined the third movie for me.

This was the worst omission from the movies IMO. It tied the whole story together.

"Scouring" is probably my favorite part in LOTR.

What happens there?

 

[Bonzai]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

that's rich.

That is golden advice. Bank it baby....

Stay gold Power Monster. Stay gold.

 

[rick6668]

Yes, the battle of the Pelennor Fields is what occured in the End of LOTR, which sucked(mostly because it didn't follow the books, but the ghosts were a cop out). The Battle of the 5 armies occurs at the end of the Hobbit which, since there are two films, we won't see until 2011. It has a lot of potential though. There is a lot more fighting throughout the Hobbit than the LOTR trilogy which may make it not as "boring" at times.

The ghost army ruined it for me.

Yeah, that really pissed me off when I watched the movie. In the book, the ghost army only helped clear the southern lands so that more human help could come to Pelennor. Would've been more appropriate to keep it this way in the book. This, and the omission of the "Scouring of the Shire" really ruined the third movie for me.

This was the worst omission from the movies IMO. It tied the whole story together.

"Scouring" is probably my favorite part in LOTR.

What happens there?

Being the Star Wars guru you are, I'm surprised you never read this....Let me find a quick summary.

wiki

In Book VI, Sam rescued Frodo from captivity. The pair then made their way through the rugged lands of Mordor and, after much struggle, finally reached Mount Doom itself (tailed closely by Gollum). However, the temptation of the Ring proved too great for Frodo, and he claimed it for himself in the end. While the Ringwraiths flew at top speed toward Mount Doom, Gollum struggled with Frodo for his "Precious" and managed to bite the Ring off Frodo's finger. Crazed with triumph, Gollum slipped into the Cracks of Doom, and the Ring was destroyed. With the end of the Ring, Sauron's armies lost heart, the Ringwraiths disintegrated, and Aragorn's army was victorious.

Thus, Sauron was banished from the world and his realm ended. Aragorn was crowned king of Gondor and married Arwen, the daughter of Elrond. All conflict was not over, however, for Saruman had managed to escape his captivity and enslave the Shire. Although he was soon overthrown by the Hobbits, and the four heroes helped to restore order and beautify the land again, it was not the same Shire that they had left. At the end, Frodo remained wounded in body and spirit and, accompanied by Bilbo, sailed west over the Sea to the Undying Lands, where he could find peace.

Saruman doesn't die at Orthanc.

More info:

After a series of goodbyes, the Hobbits return home, only to find the Shire under the control of "Sharkey", who turns out to be Saruman, diminished in power but not in malevolence. Merry and Pippin, now experienced warriors of Rohan and Gondor respectively, take the lead in setting things right again. They lead an uprising of Hobbits against Saruman, freeing the Shire (see Battle of Bywater).

Over time, the Shire heals. The many trees that Saruman's Orcs cut down are replanted; buildings are rebuilt and peace is restored. Sam marries Rosie Cotton, with whom he had been entranced for some time, and Merry and Pippin lead Buckland and Tookburrow to greater achievements.

 

[Print Is Dead]

Yeah, this is fishing.

Stop being sarcastic. You're just confusing everyone.

 

[Power Monster]

Whoopee, I say. (no sarcasm... really)

Thank god. We're having some problems with sarcasm in this thread.

Who is we? You seem to be having that problem on yer own.....

 

[snitwitch]

Yes, the battle of the Pelennor Fields is what occured in the End of LOTR, which sucked(mostly because it didn't follow the books, but the ghosts were a cop out). The Battle of the 5 armies occurs at the end of the Hobbit which, since there are two films, we won't see until 2011. It has a lot of potential though. There is a lot more fighting throughout the Hobbit than the LOTR trilogy which may make it not as "boring" at times.

The ghost army ruined it for me.

Yeah, that really pissed me off when I watched the movie. In the book, the ghost army only helped clear the southern lands so that more human help could come to Pelennor. Would've been more appropriate to keep it this way in the book. This, and the omission of the "Scouring of the Shire" really ruined the third movie for me.

This was the worst omission from the movies IMO. It tied the whole story together.

"Scouring" is probably my favorite part in LOTR.

What happens there?

Being the Star Wars guru you are, I'm surprised you never read this....Let me find a quick summary.

wiki

In Book VI, Sam rescued Frodo from captivity. The pair then made their way through the rugged lands of Mordor and, after much struggle, finally reached Mount Doom itself (tailed closely by Gollum). However, the temptation of the Ring proved too great for Frodo, and he claimed it for himself in the end. While the Ringwraiths flew at top speed toward Mount Doom, Gollum struggled with Frodo for his "Precious" and managed to bite the Ring off Frodo's finger. Crazed with triumph, Gollum slipped into the Cracks of Doom, and the Ring was destroyed. With the end of the Ring, Sauron's armies lost heart, the Ringwraiths disintegrated, and Aragorn's army was victorious.

Thus, Sauron was banished from the world and his realm ended. Aragorn was crowned king of Gondor and married Arwen, the daughter of Elrond. All conflict was not over, however, for Saruman had managed to escape his captivity and enslave the Shire. Although he was soon overthrown by the Hobbits, and the four heroes helped to restore order and beautify the land again, it was not the same Shire that they had left. At the end, Frodo remained wounded in body and spirit and, accompanied by Bilbo, sailed west over the Sea to the Undying Lands, where he could find peace.

Saruman doesn't die at Orthanc.

In fact, he went by the moniker "Sharky" and liked to post his RB projections on FBGs.com

 

[falconeyed]

Andy, are you serious about the "LOTR = Snoozefest" comment? Oh come on.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

Should True Christians be wasting their time on message boards? Or "fantasy" football?

 

[rick6668]

Here's a summary at wiki

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Oohh I, like yourself, spend the next two weeks enjoying time with family, we eat meals we give each other a gift but I have no use for trees, or yules or Santa or elves or egg nog or to think that this is a day of celebrating the birth of Christ.

You're dead to me.

 

[Power Monster]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

Should True Christians be wasting their time on message boards? Or "fantasy" football?

I see no problem with fantasy football as long as it is not being played for money. Message boards are just fine.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Andy, are you serious about the "LOTR = Snoozefest" comment? Oh come on.

Absolutely. The middle of FOTR and TTT and the beginning of ROTK all drag terribly.

 

[Power Monster]

Oohh I, like yourself, spend the next two weeks enjoying time with family, we eat meals we give each other a gift but I have no use for trees, or yules or Santa or elves or egg nog or to think that this is a day of celebrating the birth of Christ.

You're dead to me.

Peace be with you....

 

[snitwitch]

Oohh I, like yourself, spend the next two weeks enjoying time with family, we eat meals we give each other a gift but I have no use for trees, or yules or Santa or elves or egg nog or to think that this is a day of celebrating the birth of Christ.

You're dead to me.

I'm already planning out my egg nog batches. Thinking of starting with one bourbon, then one brandy, then one with rum (or maybe a mix of all three).GB you baby jebis!

 

[shining path]

Whoopee, I say. (no sarcasm... really)

Thank god. We're having some problems with sarcasm in this thread.

Who is we? You seem to be having that problem on yer own.....

Yeah, it was kind of tough to decipher.

 

[Power Monster]

Whoopee, I say. (no sarcasm... really)

Thank god. We're having some problems with sarcasm in this thread.

Who is we? You seem to be having that problem on yer own.....

Yeah, it was kind of tough to decipher.

Yes you sure went into a Tizzy there for a few posts. Glad to see that you are OK now....

 

[Zoomanji]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

Should True Christians be wasting their time on message boards? Or "fantasy" football?

I see no problem with fantasy football as long as it is not being played for money. Message boards are just fine.

Then what's the point?Only idle hands are on message boards and we know whose tool idle hands belong to.

 

[Power Monster]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

Should True Christians be wasting their time on message boards? Or "fantasy" football?

I see no problem with fantasy football as long as it is not being played for money. Message boards are just fine.

Then what's the point?Only idle hands are on message boards and we know whose tool idle hands belong to.

It's not about the money but the championships. Idle hands? Enlighten me?

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

Have to admit I love this.

 

[ELI2TYREE]

Cool- more witchcraft, fantasy and sorcery. Bring the kids...

You're a weird dude.

I'm weird? For what reason? Because I have ID'd this as being about fantasy and witchcraft?

it's a medium to tell a tale about good over evil. It started as a simple tale about little people called hobbits and grew into an enormous epic to tell an even greater tale. Don't read too much into it. I mean, have you read the book? Have you seen what the author himself has said about it? He basically wrote it so as to have a place to develop his own "new" languages. Have you read any critiques/analysis of the book? Don't take it so seriously.I understand your notion that all witchcraft is bad, I agree, in real life it is. There is no such thing as a good witch, and never will be, but give most kids credit to be able to separate fact from fiction. I did, and I was in 4th grade.

 

[Power Monster]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

Have to admit I love this.

As much as those gay PM talks in that thread of yours tiger?

 

[17seconds]

Andy, are you serious about the "LOTR = Snoozefest" comment? Oh come on.

It's 2 gay midgets walking around for 9 hours and every hour or so 2 armies run into each other.The guy has a point.

 

[falconeyed]

Andy, are you serious about the "LOTR = Snoozefest" comment? Oh come on.

Absolutely. The middle of FOTR and TTT and the beginning of ROTK all drag terribly.

You mean all the character development parts?

 

[Buckychudd]

If they are Christian that is a resounding no.

So should kids see or not see/read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe."?

No True Christian child should be wasting his/her time with worldly fantasy....

Have to admit I love this.

As much as those gay PM talks in that thread of yours tiger?

Back off, he's mine!

 

[Power Monster]

Cool- more witchcraft, fantasy and sorcery. Bring the kids...

You're a weird dude.

I'm weird? For what reason? Because I have ID'd this as being about fantasy and witchcraft?

it's a medium to tell a tale about good over evil. It started as a simple tale about little people called hobbits and grew into an enormous epic to tell an even greater tale. Don't read too much into it. I mean, have you read the book? Have you seen what the author himself has said about it? He basically wrote it so as to have a place to develop his own "new" languages. Have you read any critiques/analysis of the book? Don't take it so seriously.I understand your notion that all witchcraft is bad, I agree, in real life it is. There is no such thing as a good witch, and never will be, but give most kids credit to be able to separate fact from fiction. I did, and I was in 4th grade.

Thanks for the response. Well thought out. I know the tale of the LOTR. I read it but once I was saved it became painfully obvious to me that it is just pure witchcraft intended to induce little children. This is why so many of these movies are out these days. It is just up for grabs but that is me.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Andy, are you serious about the "LOTR = Snoozefest" comment? Oh come on.

Absolutely. The middle of FOTR and TTT and the beginning of ROTK all drag terribly.

You mean all the character development parts?

No I mean the "I talk slowly with a slight accent to add more importance to my boring words, words, and MORE words!" parts.

 

[acapella]

Andy, are you serious about the "LOTR = Snoozefest" comment? Oh come on.

Absolutely. The middle of FOTR and TTT and the beginning of ROTK all drag terribly.

Dissing any of these movies is a bannable offense. Or at least it SHOULD be!

 

[El Floppo]

Update?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Update?

Still boring.

 

[Frostillicus]

Andy, are you serious about the "LOTR = Snoozefest" comment? Oh come on.

It's 2 gay midgets walking around for 9 hours and every hour or so 2 armies run into each other.The guy has a point.

There's a giant spider too.

 

[Frostillicus]

Thanks for the response. Well thought out. I know the tale of the LOTR. I read it but once I was saved it became painfully obvious to me that it is just pure witchcraft intended to induce little children. This is why so many of these movies are out these days. It is just up for grabs but that is me.

Really? You seriously believe this? That JRR Tolkien set out to write these books with the purpose of converting little kids to witchcraft and satanism?

 

[dickey moe]

LMAO @ "flim flam."

 

[El Floppo]

Update?

Still boring.

Sarcasm?

 

[rick6668]

If they are doing two films.... I think they split it right when Bilbo meets Gollum.

I'm thinking that's way too early.That's only chapter 5Maybe "Barrels Out of Bond".....I'm not sure how this is going to work in two films..

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Update?

Still boring.

Sarcasm?

Nope.

 

[SFBayDuck]

Thanks for the response. Well thought out. I know the tale of the LOTR. I read it but once I was saved it became painfully obvious to me that it is just pure witchcraft intended to induce little children. This is why so many of these movies are out these days. It is just up for grabs but that is me.

Really? You seriously believe this? That JRR Tolkien set out to write these books with the purpose of converting little kids to witchcraft and satanism?

That is awesome. But I suppose this makes sense when your entire belief system is tied to blindly believing what's written in a book........