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Peterson (Min) or Lynch (Buf) (1 Viewer)
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Footballguy
Pretty tough to gauge this one.
Peterson is probably the better talent, but Minnesota is a question mark long-term. They have no WRs to speak of and no proven talent at QB. It could be years before their offense is up and running.
Lynch looks to be in a much better spot to produce out of the gate. He's easily the most talented back on the roster and his receiving skills should help him produce decent totals. Losman isn't a star, but he might be good enough to keep defenses honest.
Peterson is probably the better talent, but Minnesota is a question mark long-term. They have no WRs to speak of and no proven talent at QB. It could be years before their offense is up and running.
Lynch looks to be in a much better spot to produce out of the gate. He's easily the most talented back on the roster and his receiving skills should help him produce decent totals. Losman isn't a star, but he might be good enough to keep defenses honest.
packersfan
Footballguy
For 2007 - Lynch
Long-Term - Peterson
Long-Term - Peterson
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Peterson behind pro-bowlers like McKinnie and Hutchinson vs. Lynch behind a line that couldn't even get Willis Mcgahee to sniff the endzone?
Uh...I'll take Peterson by a mile. Chester will be a non-factor soon enough and pales in comparison to ADP in every aspect of the game.
Uh...I'll take Peterson by a mile. Chester will be a non-factor soon enough and pales in comparison to ADP in every aspect of the game.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Pretty even now. Lynch if you have a team geared to win the next year or two. AP if you're building for 3 years out.
sho nuff
Footballguy
McKinnie is average. Good line...but no respect for the passing game and Taylor there will limit Peterson in the short term.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Vikings O-line wasn't very impressive last year either. Middle of the pack in YPC, top 10 in sacks allowed. Chester's the better receiver. Worst case, he's the third down back.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
CT was the lone bright spot on offense last year.
FavreCo
Footballguy
McGahee didn't even know the plays.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
If we're just talking about the talent around them how can you ignore the lines? Which is more important, the line or the QBs and WRs?Well, with their utter lack of QBs and WRs Chester Taylor (one of the lower-tiered starting RBs in the league) had no problem racking up 1200yds rushing at 4.0 yards per clip. Meanwhile with "good enough to keep defenses honest" JP Losman and Lee Evans a much, much more talented Willis Mcgahee couldn't get to 1000 yards at 3.8ypc. The year before he was stuck at 3.8ypc as well.That offense is supposed to be better?And it's not like Buffalo can even flip a switch and decide to fix the line. They've been trying for 5 years to rebuild that line and have shown utter incompetence in trying to do so. It could be a long time before anyone in Buffalo is running the football without having to break 3 tackles just to get back to the line of scrimmage.
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AhrnCityPahnder
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
RB is one of the easiest transition positions for a rookie because you don't really need to learn much, so that doesn't really matter much. Plus, Lynch isn't exactly known for his high GPA and ability to pick up a playbook quickly.
ADP's receiving ability is vastly underrated by people that don't really know much about him simply because OU's offense doesn't lend to throwing to the RBs much. This is a classic case of not confusing "can't" with "hasn't". Make no mistake about it, ADP's receiving ability is one of his strengths, people that don't really know much about him just don't know it.
EBF
Footballguy
The line is only one part of the equation. YPC is great, but what typically separates the elite FF backs from the good backs is TDs. I don't think either the Vikings or Bills looks like they'll be scoring a lot anytime soon.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
His receiving ability isn't one of his strengths. You can say it is but that doesn't make it true. It may not be a liability like some believe but Taylor is a pretty good pass catching back at the NFL level and better than AP at this stage.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Childress has also publicly stated that he wants to use a two back system so one guy doesn't wear down. Those thinking Peterson is going to push Taylor to the bench are reaching.
the Peterson pick really throws a wrench in my fantasy Keeper plans.i have Edge as 1 keeper (love the Joe Thomas pick), and Chester was going to be my 2nd keeper.. but if he's splitting carries w/ AD (assuming he survives the summer w/ no injuries),------ i'd rather keep Reggie Brown WR-Phi [sic] hoping he has that trademark Year3 Breakout Season, over Chester Taylor RBBC in a low-scoring offense.
Rovers
Footballguy
My knee jerk reaction is Lynch. Peterson's shoulder is a concern and he will share carries. Hutchinson never really got aclimated to Minny's zone blocking scheme. The Bills have improved the O line, and Losman is getting better. I have a week to mull it all over. I'm leaning Lynch because I want to win this year....
Gopher State
Footballguy
Very VERY
Minny maybe better then people expect, we see what they do after player cuts, might be a qb or wr added that will change things. No doubt MN's o-line is one of the best
Rev
Footballguy
I have the 1.1 and 1.3, and this is a tough one for me.
I like Lynch's clear role as the Bills feature RB, and I'm concerned that Peterson will be in a committee with Taylor for the next few years. But, my Vikings should get a solid rookie WR in round 2 and utilize a potent O Line to start gaining traction as an offense. And they didn't draft AD to use him as a 50/50 guy with Taylor, IMO.
I actually think CJ going to Detroit hurts his (CJ's) stock, so I hope I end up with both Lynch and Peterson!
I like Lynch's clear role as the Bills feature RB, and I'm concerned that Peterson will be in a committee with Taylor for the next few years. But, my Vikings should get a solid rookie WR in round 2 and utilize a potent O Line to start gaining traction as an offense. And they didn't draft AD to use him as a 50/50 guy with Taylor, IMO.
I actually think CJ going to Detroit hurts his (CJ's) stock, so I hope I end up with both Lynch and Peterson!
Rev
Footballguy
Taylor is a lot younger than was Faulk when Sjax came into the league, and Taylor was quite productive last year (1200 yards, 42 receptions, 6 TDs) in a struggling offense. Tough to compare, IMO.IS IT POSSIBLE THAT AD IS THE NEW CHRIS PERRY? Taylor could play Rudi's role as a solid feature back who holds off a constantly nicked up 1st round rookie with huge college stats. I'm just sayin...
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Doctor Detroit
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Sometimes I wonder if pro fans watch college football.
Adrian Peterson is one of the best running back talents in the past twenty years. If he can stay healthy he has the physical gifts to be one of the best RB in the NFL. Lynch is fast and an intriguing prospect and he might be a good fantasy player, but we are talking HOF potential vs good player here. Peterson if he is healthy, will be extremely impressive.
Adrian Peterson is one of the best running back talents in the past twenty years. If he can stay healthy he has the physical gifts to be one of the best RB in the NFL. Lynch is fast and an intriguing prospect and he might be a good fantasy player, but we are talking HOF potential vs good player here. Peterson if he is healthy, will be extremely impressive.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Yep. The only reason this is remotely close is for PPR leagues. Lynch could be a beast there, especially without a WR2 or receiving TE.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Well the obvious differences are that AD is a much better prospect than Perry was, and Rudi is much better than Chester. I know that's easy to say now, but Rudi was coming off a season with 1000yds and 9TDs at 4.5ypc in only 5 starts (and 13 total games), whereas Chester is coming off of a 1200/6 season at 4.0ypc in 15 starts.Also, Perry was barely a 1st round prospect whereas AD is a guy that's been touted as a top 10 overall pick since 4 years ago.IS IT POSSIBLE THAT AD IS THE NEW CHRIS PERRY? Taylor could play Rudi's role as a solid feature back who holds off a constantly nicked up 1st round rookie with huge college stats. I'm just sayin...
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
About time someone else said it.
EBF
Footballguy
The thing about the whole "Peterson is once-in-a-decade" talk is that Lynch was drafted a whopping five slots lower. It's not like we're comparing Steven Jackson and Tatum Bell. Both guys were touted as legit first rounders all along.
That said, I'm probably leaning towards Peterson simply because he stands out a little bit more and seems to have a better chance of becoming an elite player.
That said, I'm probably leaning towards Peterson simply because he stands out a little bit more and seems to have a better chance of becoming an elite player.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
corpcow
Footballguy
Minny o-line - particularly the left side, is what did that. They won the battle on both sides of the trenches, and it's why they were able to have some success despite the lack of a passing game. (And on the the side, the way people could move the ball was to pass, if you recall - no one could run).fruity pebbles said:
Doctor Detroit
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I don't mind arguing about stuff like this because this is all very opinion based at this point. However Peterson may have been the most highly recruited player in NCAA Football history and was a beast when healthy. He ran for 1900 yards in his only full year in 2004 and he followed that up by running for 1100 in seven games as a sophomore. In his sophomore and junior years he was running behind weak lines at OU played with a freshman QB and then a QB turned WR turned back to QB last year. He was up against 8 man fronts all the time and he has the speed to take it to the house if he breaks that barrier. He was the most decorated runner in Texas High School history and that is a pretty impressive accomplishment. He had a good freshman year also.About time someone else said it.
When I first saw him he immediately reminded me of a young Eric Dickerson. Problem is he is a big guy but he took a lot of beatings at OU and I think that dropped him. If he would have been healthy his entire college career he would have been the #1 pick no matter what the Raiders needed. He would have been too much to pass up. But he does have injury questions and a shoulder/collarbone injury for a RB that runs like he does, would tend to scare people off of him being as sure of a thing as I think he is. Physically: impressive. Game speed: impressive. Running ability and style: impressive. Not bad at tests either:
I think he is going to be a special player. I'm not much of a Vikings fan but I'll be watching AD whenever I get a chance. I'm not sure this guy has a ceiling.
corpcow
Footballguy
This talk of "HOF potential" always makes me chuckle a little. Talent alone doesn't get you to Canton - it's a combination of talent, drive, work ethic, and a little bit of luck. Obviously, Peterson (and Lynch) both have boatloads of talent. By all accounts, Peterson also has a great work ethic, and he could very well be something special in this league for a long time to come. Many question durability, but the collarbone can be written off as a freak injury he rushed back too fast one. Then again, remember what happened last time a top 10 pick broke his collarbone twice?
I'm not saying Peterson won't be a HOF'er, I'm just saying it's a bit early. The guys who make it to the HOF are the ones can do it - consistently - for years. And, from a FANTASY perspective, Lynch may well have a few better years in there. At this point, I still take Adrian first, but I think the gap between him and Lynch is smaller than the gap between Lynch and whoever's next.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
That's why they say "HOF potential and not "HOF inductee".
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Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I don't make a whole lot of bold predictions but I think Peterson is special. Like I said, most of the talk at this point is pure conjecture. A lot of first rounders never work out but if this guy stays healthy, I like his chances to be one of the better RBs we've seen in awhile.This talk of "HOF potential" always makes me chuckle a little. Talent alone doesn't get you to Canton - it's a combination of talent, drive, work ethic, and a little bit of luck. Obviously, Peterson (and Lynch) both have boatloads of talent. By all accounts, Peterson also has a great work ethic, and he could very well be something special in this league for a long time to come. Many question durability, but the collarbone can be written off as a freak injury he rushed back too fast one. Then again, remember what happened last time a top 10 pick broke his collarbone twice?I'm not saying Peterson won't be a HOF'er, I'm just saying it's a bit early. The guys who make it to the HOF are the ones can do it - consistently - for years. And, from a FANTASY perspective, Lynch may well have a few better years in there. At this point, I still take Adrian first, but I think the gap between him and Lynch is smaller than the gap between Lynch and whoever's next.
