Peyton Manning in the first round? (1 Viewer)

[kingsfan1]

Hey all!

I am in a interesting situation. I have a late first round pick this year, and the way my league scores (PPR, AND points per completion), I can't help but wonder if I should pick Peyton with my first pick? I am a huge believer of taking RB's early and often, so I would really be going away from my norm here!

Please let me know if you have won your league championship taking Peyton in Round 1!!!!!

TIA!!!

 

[freeannyong]

If you get a point per completion is seems like a solid idea to take manning

 

[Trey]

If you paired Peyton with Frank Gore later I'd say you were off to a damn good start...

I mean, having Peyton certainly didn't hurt a team last year when there were so many 1st Round Busts. It just comes down to finding the gems after him, which is basically what is comes down to no matter what player you choose in the 1st.

 

[SSOG]

In a point-per-completion league, Manning should be a no-brainer first rounder. Over his career, here's his end of season ranks in terms of completions- 2nd, 3rd, 1st, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 4th, 6th, 3rd. Even in a non-point-per-completion league, I think Manning makes a lot of sense in the first. In PPC, it's a slam dunk.

 

[kingsfan1]

Thanks for your responses. This is how I'm feeling as well. I just hope that like "Trey" mentioned, I'm able to pair Peyton with a solid RB!

 

[Judge Smails]

Guy who won our league, and missed going undefeated by 1 point, drafted Peyton in the first..

 

[Judge Smails]

FYI, his 2 studs all year were Peyton and the Bear D. He had rag tag RB's all year led by Kevin Jones and still won it.

 

[Josh the FunkDOC]

Heck, in our money league, the last two championships have been won by the guy drafting Peyton in the 1st. In '05, my uncle actually took him #1 overall. This was the year after the 49 TDs, and thus a "down" year for him, yet he still won the championship. As you might expect, this was due to getting all sorts of great value afterward: The deepest RB stable in the league (Portis, Caddy, Chris Brown, Stephen Davis) plus Boldin and Steve Smith.

Last year was even crazier in a way, as one of our regulars took Manning with the #4 pick and then Harrison in the 2nd! So how does he win? Simple: Gore in the 4th and Deuce in the 5th! He also had Tatum Bell as a quality fill-in before the injuries, and Brees as his backup. No other solid WRs as I recall, but he didn't need them. Remember, Harrison was a monster during fantasy playoffs, and his championship opponent had LT who of course bombed.

So, basically, if you go this route in the 1st, I would get one proven high-tier WR in the 3rd or 4th, and spend all the other early picks on RBs. You need quantity to have the best chance of getting lucky on a couple of them!

In a more standard league, I would rather grab a Travis Henry or someone with a 9-12 pick, but with point per completion Peyton is an absolute stud.

-Josh

 

[Nate]

I won pretty decisively this past season with Manning as my keeper in a keep 1 auction league. But it was Gore, Owens, and Evans that really won it for me.

In a PPC league is there a better fantasy player than Manning?

 

[I Am Rick James]

Won my 10 teamer last season picking Manning 10, trading my 2nd (11th) for the 20 and 40th. Picked Holt 20th and didn't draft a RB until 30th (Westy) then Ward 31st and then "carpet bombed" the middle rounds and came up with all sorts of usable RB's. Nobody can figure out how I did it , haha

 

[gianmarco]

Won my 10 teamer last season picking Manning 10, trading my 2nd (11th) for the 20 and 40th. Picked Holt 20th and didn't draft a RB until 30th (Westy) then Ward 31st and then "carpet bombed" the middle rounds and came up with all sorts of usable RB's. Nobody can figure out how I did it , haha

Answer: Letting Westbrook fall to #30. Of course they can't figure it out.

 

[Penguin]

Won my 10 teamer last season picking Manning 10, trading my 2nd (11th) for the 20 and 40th. Picked Holt 20th and didn't draft a RB until 30th (Westy) then Ward 31st and then "carpet bombed" the middle rounds and came up with all sorts of usable RB's. Nobody can figure out how I did it , haha

Answer: Letting Westbrook fall to #30. Of course they can't figure it out.

This sounds like my niece's grammer school league, no offense Rick (I love your Funk) but I can't think of a scoring system where Westbrook falls anywhere near #30, I can't believe you didn't gobble him up at #20. Hate to be harsh but it sounds like the other nine guys in your league are buffoons.

 

[Penguin]

To answer kinsfan1's question, without knowing any of your league's particulars I'd have to consider Payton a round one option. What I'm really wondering about is that is what are you giving per completion, surely it's not 1 point? If it is, what do RB's & WR's get per reception? If the answer to both questions is one, Payton should go #1 overall. I think we need more facts before we are able to answer your question correctly.

 

[freeannyong]

Won my 10 teamer last season picking Manning 10, trading my 2nd (11th) for the 20 and 40th. Picked Holt 20th and didn't draft a RB until 30th (Westy) then Ward 31st and then "carpet bombed" the middle rounds and came up with all sorts of usable RB's. Nobody can figure out how I did it , haha

Have to go with the other guys here. All my $$$ leagues Westbrook was gone before 20 every draft.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Won my 10 teamer last season picking Manning 10, trading my 2nd (11th) for the 20 and 40th. Picked Holt 20th and didn't draft a RB until 30th (Westy) then Ward 31st and then "carpet bombed" the middle rounds and came up with all sorts of usable RB's. Nobody can figure out how I did it , haha

Answer: Letting Westbrook fall to #30. Of course they can't figure it out.

This sounds like my niece's grammer school league, no offense Rick (I love your Funk) but I can't think of a scoring system where Westbrook falls anywhere near #30, I can't believe you didn't gobble him up at #20. Hate to be harsh but it sounds like the other nine guys in your league are buffoons.

 

[1huskerfan]

Hey all!I am in a interesting situation. I have a late first round pick this year, and the way my league scores (PPR, AND points per completion), I can't help but wonder if I should pick Peyton with my first pick? I am a huge believer of taking RB's early and often, so I would really be going away from my norm here!Please let me know if you have won your league championship taking Peyton in Round 1!!!!!TIA!!!

2005 1.02 Manning2.09 Harrison3.02 Holt4.09 DJax5.02 D Foster (RB16)6.09 T Jones (RB20)7.02 W Dunn (RB21)8.09 J Plummer9.02 C Palmer10.09 R Williams (RB29)11.02 R Droughns (RB30)12.09 FWP (RB34)I have no idea why I drafted him that high. I was targeting Palmer, Foster, jones, and FWP in all of my drafts that year and they all panned out beautifully. Our league rewards passing TDs equally and they go 6-9-12 depending on length.

 

[Harald]

Two of the last three seasons the Peyton Manning owner has won it all in one of my leagues. "Non-pro" league 6 pts for a TD pass.

 

[tomarken]

This sounds like my niece's grammer school league, no offense Rick (I love your Funk) but I can't think of a scoring system where Westbrook falls anywhere near #30, I can't believe you didn't gobble him up at #20. Hate to be harsh but it sounds like the other nine guys in your league are buffoons.

Irony?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Won my 10 teamer last season picking Manning 10, trading my 2nd (11th) for the 20 and 40th. Picked Holt 20th and didn't draft a RB until 30th (Westy) then Ward 31st and then "carpet bombed" the middle rounds and came up with all sorts of usable RB's. Nobody can figure out how I did it , haha

Answer: Letting Westbrook fall to #30. Of course they can't figure it out.

This sounds like my niece's grammer school league, no offense Rick (I love your Funk) but I can't think of a scoring system where Westbrook falls anywhere near #30, I can't believe you didn't gobble him up at #20. Hate to be harsh but it sounds like the other nine guys in your league are buffoons.

I got Westbrook at 3.8 last year (pick 32) in a pretty savvy TD-heavy league. Still missed the playoffs.. Guy was always undervalued, much like Tiki was until last year. In 2005 I got Barber at 2.11 (lost in first round of playoffs)

 

[cheese]

I won my main league last year with Manning in the first. The core of my team (12 team league) ended up being Manning, SSmith, CJohnson, KJones, and down the stretch... Ladell Betts. Mike Bell was pretty productive for me down the stretch as well.

 

[moondawg]

This sounds like my niece's grammer school league, no offense Rick (I love your Funk) but I can't think of a scoring system where Westbrook falls anywhere near #30, I can't believe you didn't gobble him up at #20. Hate to be harsh but it sounds like the other nine guys in your league are buffoons.

Irony?

LOL

 

[Pipes]

PPC...are people serious? Geez how many points do QB's put up in a system like this?

 

[einstein2u]

seems like the key to having manning is getting lucky on RBs.....and i am just not so lucky....so i rather take a Rbs sooner and a reliable qb later.

 

[-Crippler-]

PPC...are people serious? Geez how many points do QB's put up in a system like this?

People only do this because Yahoo lists it as an option If they see a check-box they must click it!

 

[SSOG]

PPC...are people serious? Geez how many points do QB's put up in a system like this?

600 or so for the good ones. I've gotten 65 points in a week from my QB alone. It's such a ridiculous setup, if your QB gets hurt in the first quarter you automatically lose (because you're operating at a 30-40 point disadvantage compared to even a bad QB).

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I am in a "math league" that is 1 point per yard (rushing, receiving, OR PASSING), 5 points per reception, 5 points per COMPLETION, 35 points per TD (rush/rec/pass) and you get the QB's rating for the game added to your score.

So Manning is always a first-rounder, and the team who has him usually does well. I am keeping SJAX for a first-rounder this year (he is gold in this format too), but I will take Brady or Palmer if they are there in the early 2nd. (Brees is being kept.)

I had great RB/WR performance last year but just missed the playoffs because I had crappy QBs. (And I would have won had I made the playoffs!) My QBs were routinely outscored by the opponent QB by around 100 points -- 200 or more when I faced Manning and that ilk.

 

[NinerK]

I won pretty decisively this past season with Manning as my keeper in a keep 1 auction league. But it was Gore, Owens, and Evans that really won it for me.In a PPC league is there a better fantasy player than Manning?

PPC Leagues=WELCOME TO THE SUCK!

 

[AnonymousBob]

I am in a "math league" that is 1 point per yard (rushing, receiving, OR PASSING), 5 points per reception, 5 points per COMPLETION, 35 points per TD (rush/rec/pass) and you get the QB's rating for the game added to your score. So Manning is always a first-rounder, and the team who has him usually does well. I am keeping SJAX for a first-rounder this year (he is gold in this format too), but I will take Brady or Palmer if they are there in the early 2nd. (Brees is being kept.) I had great RB/WR performance last year but just missed the playoffs because I had crappy QBs. (And I would have won had I made the playoffs!) My QBs were routinely outscored by the opponent QB by around 100 points -- 200 or more when I faced Manning and that ilk.

Hot damn, that's some scoring system.

 

[corpcow]

If you paired Peyton with Frank Gore later I'd say you were off to a damn good start...I mean, having Peyton certainly didn't hurt a team last year when there were so many 1st Round Busts. It just comes down to finding the gems after him, which is basically what is comes down to no matter what player you choose in the 1st.

Gore "later"? Gore's ADP is about 1.04 right now. He may slip somewhat with the broken hand, but in no scenario have I seen him fall out of the first round. (And a broken hand should be fine and won't linger like a soft tissue injury).

 

[corpcow]

Heck, in our money league, the last two championships have been won by the guy drafting Peyton in the 1st. In '05, my uncle actually took him #1 overall. This was the year after the 49 TDs, and thus a "down" year for him, yet he still won the championship. As you might expect, this was due to getting all sorts of great value afterward: The deepest RB stable in the league (Portis, Caddy, Chris Brown, Stephen Davis) plus Boldin and Steve Smith.Last year was even crazier in a way, as one of our regulars took Manning with the #4 pick and then Harrison in the 2nd! So how does he win? Simple: Gore in the 4th and Deuce in the 5th! He also had Tatum Bell as a quality fill-in before the injuries, and Brees as his backup. No other solid WRs as I recall, but he didn't need them. Remember, Harrison was a monster during fantasy playoffs, and his championship opponent had LT who of course bombed.So, basically, if you go this route in the 1st, I would get one proven high-tier WR in the 3rd or 4th, and spend all the other early picks on RBs. You need quantity to have the best chance of getting lucky on a couple of them!In a more standard league, I would rather grab a Travis Henry or someone with a 9-12 pick, but with point per completion Peyton is an absolute stud.-Josh

This strategy actually works well with the state of the league now too... there are less surefire top 12 RB picks

 

[Wingnut]

Manning has been drafted no later than 6th in my league the past 5 years. 2 championships. All but one made the playoffs.

 

[Penguin]

Won my 10 teamer last season picking Manning 10, trading my 2nd (11th) for the 20 and 40th. Picked Holt 20th and didn't draft a RB until 30th (Westy) then Ward 31st and then "carpet bombed" the middle rounds and came up with all sorts of usable RB's. Nobody can figure out how I did it , haha

Answer: Letting Westbrook fall to #30. Of course they can't figure it out.

This sounds like my niece's grammer school league, no offense Rick (I love your Funk) but I can't think of a scoring system where Westbrook falls anywhere near #30, I can't believe you didn't gobble him up at #20. Hate to be harsh but it sounds like the other nine guys in your league are buffoons.

I got Westbrook at 3.8 last year (pick 32) in a pretty savvy TD-heavy league. Still missed the playoffs.. Guy was always undervalued, much like Tiki was until last year. In 2005 I got Barber at 2.11 (lost in first round of playoffs)

The difference is that your league was TD heavy and I'm guessing non-ppr. His scoring system is PPR, there is no way that Westbrook should make it anywhere near pick 3o or 32 in a PPR league.

 

[Riffraff]

The Manning owner won all but one of my leagues last year.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I am in a "math league" that is 1 point per yard (rushing, receiving, OR PASSING), 5 points per reception, 5 points per COMPLETION, 35 points per TD (rush/rec/pass) and you get the QB's rating for the game added to your score. So Manning is always a first-rounder, and the team who has him usually does well. I am keeping SJAX for a first-rounder this year (he is gold in this format too), but I will take Brady or Palmer if they are there in the early 2nd. (Brees is being kept.) I had great RB/WR performance last year but just missed the playoffs because I had crappy QBs. (And I would have won had I made the playoffs!) My QBs were routinely outscored by the opponent QB by around 100 points -- 200 or more when I faced Manning and that ilk.

Hot damn, that's some scoring system.

Odder: Defenses are scored more based on yards and points allowed than on TDs/sacks/turnovers (though they do get credit for those -- and the longer the fumble/INT/punt/KO return for a TD, the more you get for it.) It's -.5 for every yard allowed, -5 for every point allowed. Most times your defense scores negative points. If you can keep it to -100 or less, that's good. If you get positive points from them, that means they had a huge week (or played the Raiders last year). Odder still: The league used to draft O-Lines and scored them based on sacks allowed and penalties (like defenses, they usually scored in negative numbers). That was before I joined. O-Lines were dropped when the league started using Sportsline, which couldn't support it.

 

[SSOG]

I am in a "math league" that is 1 point per yard (rushing, receiving, OR PASSING), 5 points per reception, 5 points per COMPLETION, 35 points per TD (rush/rec/pass) and you get the QB's rating for the game added to your score. So Manning is always a first-rounder, and the team who has him usually does well. I am keeping SJAX for a first-rounder this year (he is gold in this format too), but I will take Brady or Palmer if they are there in the early 2nd. (Brees is being kept.) I had great RB/WR performance last year but just missed the playoffs because I had crappy QBs. (And I would have won had I made the playoffs!) My QBs were routinely outscored by the opponent QB by around 100 points -- 200 or more when I faced Manning and that ilk.

Hot damn, that's some scoring system.

Odder: Defenses are scored more based on yards and points allowed than on TDs/sacks/turnovers (though they do get credit for those -- and the longer the fumble/INT/punt/KO return for a TD, the more you get for it.) It's -.5 for every yard allowed, -5 for every point allowed. Most times your defense scores negative points. If you can keep it to -100 or less, that's good. If you get positive points from them, that means they had a huge week (or played the Raiders last year). Odder still: The league used to draft O-Lines and scored them based on sacks allowed and penalties (like defenses, they usually scored in negative numbers). That was before I joined. O-Lines were dropped when the league started using Sportsline, which couldn't support it.

No punters?