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PFT reporting Mora Jr. offered Phins Job (1 Viewer)
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Reaper
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Well, As long as it isn't Schott Jr......And you still have the HOT Cheerleaders. As Jet fan, I'm real happy with how this is playing out but, then again, we all thought Saban was a slam dunk.ooofffaaa said:Ugh.So the Dolphins are left with . . . Jim Mora Jr.Chan Gailey
What an ugly ugly situation.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
This is what John Clayton is saying is going to happen. He said that this morning on the Mike and Mike show.mcjc4 said:
I was very happy when they hired Saban - and we all know how that turned out.Choosing between Mora or Gailey feels like having to choose between death by hanging or death by firing squad.Well, As long as it isn't Schott Jr......And you still have the HOT Cheerleaders. As Jet fan, I'm real happy with how this is playing out but, then again, we all thought Saban was a slam dunk.ooofffaaa said:Ugh.So the Dolphins are left with . . . Jim Mora Jr.
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Wilbur Wood
Footballguy
Does anyone have any insight into why Brian Shottenheimer withdrew from the Miami job?
As a JETS fan, I'm delighted with this development. I had heard that he was the front runner and that was why Capers had been signed on as a high priced D-coodinator.
As a JETS fan, I'm delighted with this development. I had heard that he was the front runner and that was why Capers had been signed on as a high priced D-coodinator.
Big Score
Footballguy
Scuttlebutt is he pulled out so that when his dad is fired in San Diego, he can have the Dolphins HC job.
Wilbur Wood
Footballguy
Certainly plausible.
Given the choice of Marty, Gailey or Mora I'd take Marty all day long.
JETS Fan here,It was reported in the Newark Star Ledger that B. Shott didn't think he was getting the job and speculated that he wasn't sure he was ready to take over a franchise yet.So those two factors caused him to w/draw his name.
On The Rocks
Footballguy
In other news PFT is reporting that I had a threesome last night with Halle Berry and Eva Longoria.
Lord of the Rings
Footballguy
I would probably take them in this order:
Marty (credibility and experience)
Mora (don't know anything about his philosophy, etc.)
Gailey (too much Wannstadt-ish which still leaves a bitter taste)
Marty (credibility and experience)
Mora (don't know anything about his philosophy, etc.)
Gailey (too much Wannstadt-ish which still leaves a bitter taste)
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Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
As a Patriots fan, I must say I am delighted,
borderline giddy, with this potential hire.
borderline giddy, with this potential hire.
greedygoat
Footballguy
Not sure I understand why 11-5 would leave a bad taste in your mouth, Gailey did pretty good with what he was given.
SwampDawg
Footballguy
As a Dolphins fan I am also delighted, IMHO he isn't ready yet, and his 1 year as coordinator of an average at best Jets offense didn't do anything for me. I think you have yourselves a great young coach in Mangini, but I'm not sure much of their success was sue to Schotty.
Dolfan
Footballguy
What about Cam Cameron?
He is on the Final-5 list, but no one here is mentioning him as a possibility
He would be my 1st choice at this point..
Has he already indicated that he is not interested in the Phins job?
Is it a given that he will be San Diego's new head coach if/when Marty gets fired in the next few days?
He is on the Final-5 list, but no one here is mentioning him as a possibility
He would be my 1st choice at this point..
Has he already indicated that he is not interested in the Phins job?
Is it a given that he will be San Diego's new head coach if/when Marty gets fired in the next few days?
Rovers
Footballguy
If you watched the Jets offense this year, every week, I think Schotty lite was very good. Three new starters on the O line, including two rookies. Not much of a running game, yet he took chances and got pretty creative at times. I'm not sure he was comfortable with the idea of having a coach with as much experience as Capers has working for him. He'll get more offers down the road.
I happen to thing Mora Jr may be a very good choice. I'd like to see how he does without Vick chained to his ankle..... not that Miami has a very promising QB situation either, but that's the norm when most coaches leave or get fired, isn't it?
I happen to thing Mora Jr may be a very good choice. I'd like to see how he does without Vick chained to his ankle..... not that Miami has a very promising QB situation either, but that's the norm when most coaches leave or get fired, isn't it?
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Family Matters
Footballguy
Now PFT is reporting this:
POSTED 2:44 p.m. EST, January 16, 2007
SON OF SHULA ENTERS FINS' FRAY
The bad news for Fins fans is that a son of legendary Miami Dolphins coach Don Shula is a candidate to take over the team to which the elder Shula led to a 17-0 perfect season in 1972.
The good news is that his name isn't David.
Armando Salguero reports that former Alabama coach Mike Shula has emerged as a candidate for the position that was vacated by former Fins coach Nick Saban, who is now the head coach at Alabama.
Mike Shula reportedly was interviewed on Saturday.
Seems they'll report anthing they hear. And some of us wonder why people doubt them so often. I'm beginning to think they like to make themselves the news rather than report on it.
POSTED 2:44 p.m. EST, January 16, 2007
SON OF SHULA ENTERS FINS' FRAY
The bad news for Fins fans is that a son of legendary Miami Dolphins coach Don Shula is a candidate to take over the team to which the elder Shula led to a 17-0 perfect season in 1972.
The good news is that his name isn't David.
Armando Salguero reports that former Alabama coach Mike Shula has emerged as a candidate for the position that was vacated by former Fins coach Nick Saban, who is now the head coach at Alabama.
Mike Shula reportedly was interviewed on Saturday.
Seems they'll report anthing they hear. And some of us wonder why people doubt them so often. I'm beginning to think they like to make themselves the news rather than report on it.
MarshallRob
Footballguy
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Isn't that why the column is call "The Rumor Mill"?
Actually PFT reported Sherman was being offered the job, then later reported he was offered the job, but the Cardinals balked when Sherman wanted $4M a year. PFT said the Cardinals blew it because they should have known Sherman's price range before bringing him back for a 2nd interview. Does anyone have info that disputes any of this?
massraider
Footballguy
You can go to PFT yourself, scroll down, and dispute this.Foxsports.com reported the salary dispute. PFT assured their readers, twice, that Sherman had the job. Not that it was his to lose, or that the Cards were negotiating salary. PFT never mentioned anything about salary until someone else reported it.
Family Matters
Footballguy
True. But keep in mind that they love to take credit for anything they get right. When they're wrong you don't hear from them. And they love to criticize others when they're wrong.abrecher said:
pinda
Footballguy
actually you are 100% wrong, they are always saying that they were wrong. they will also give people they don't like credit like Pastabelly when he does report something right......problem is that the guys that say they don't accept the blame when they are wrong, are the guys that go there once in a while, they don't keep track of it everyday to read each post.
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Family Matters
Footballguy
I'm there almost everyday. There have been times they've given others credit but they do not always admit when they were wrong. Yet even though they were wrong about their reporting of Mora, they haven't retracted anything.The fact is they mostly criticize others and make fun of them by mocking them. It really takes away from what good they do.
massraider
Footballguy
That's the biggest thing. They've broken stories in the past. We know this because they tell us, repeatedly.
And Florio's overall tone is why their detractors delight in their mistakes. My favorite was the Brett Favre retirement scoop last year. Whoops!
They are really good about telling their readers when something is a rumor. But they screwed the pooch on the Sherman thing. If you disagree, fine, but the posts there after Sherman left town are the very definition of 'spin'. And their coverage of the offseason has been spotty at best. They've had no insight into the coaching searches, but have covered themselves by taking the shotgun approach to rumors.
"Lombardi is out in Oakland! Well, Lombardi may stay............we heard is is angling for another job, so he wants out, so our first story wasn't inaccurate, per se.........."
Try and imagine what they would write if Mort, Clayton or Len P had some of that crap in their archive.
I love reading PFT, but sure aren't gonna defend them when they have to eat a ####burger.
pinda
Footballguy
I guess it's perception here. I don't go there to get a final word on things. I go there to get rumors. They were not the only ones that said Sherman wanted 4 million and that's why it fell through. It was on an AZ radio. I don't look at that as a spin, it's just telling you other rumors they hear. But that's exactly it, its a rumor mill. There's no need to post when they are wrong, although they do post when they didn't get the report right.That's the biggest thing. They've broken stories in the past. We know this because they tell us, repeatedly.
And Florio's overall tone is why their detractors delight in their mistakes. My favorite was the Brett Favre retirement scoop last year. Whoops!
They are really good about telling their readers when something is a rumor. But they screwed the pooch on the Sherman thing. If you disagree, fine, but the posts there after Sherman left town are the very definition of 'spin'. And their coverage of the offseason has been spotty at best. They've had no insight into the coaching searches, but have covered themselves by taking the shotgun approach to rumors.
"Lombardi is out in Oakland! Well, Lombardi may stay............we heard is is angling for another job, so he wants out, so our first story wasn't inaccurate, per se.........."
Try and imagine what they would write if Mort, Clayton or Len P had some of that crap in their archive.
I love reading PFT, but sure aren't gonna defend them when they have to eat a ####burger.
Right now they are reporting that Lofton is in negotiations with Oakland. A minute before that they said the USC guy Sarkisian was the man. But they went on and pointed out that there are other reports now coming out. Do they say, "We were wrong...." no they don't. However, they do point out that "contrary to our previous post", or "against what we reported earlier." To me, that's semantics, don't need to worry about somebody saying "I'm wrong" as long as they correct the post. I'm not that anal or self absorbed about hearing somebody else make a mistake.
As for Len, Mort, and anybody else posting on the big websites. They don't come out and say they are rumors. They say this is what it is. Let's not even get into how many times Len has been wrong. And Mort saying Cutler was going to start the next week for 6 straight weeks. They finally change to Cutler, and he takes credit. Well even I could have reported that.
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massraider
Footballguy
1. They didn't say Sherman was a rumor, they said it was done. Twice.
2. The salary demand was reported by someone else, not them. They then used that to explain why they were wrong.
3. All those guys deal in rumors. But it doesn't matter. Wouldn't change my point anyways.
4. Anal and self-absorbed? Huh? Are you describing me? Where on earth do you get 'self-absorbed'? Is PFT writing about me?
2. The salary demand was reported by someone else, not them. They then used that to explain why they were wrong.
3. All those guys deal in rumors. But it doesn't matter. Wouldn't change my point anyways.
4. Anal and self-absorbed? Huh? Are you describing me? Where on earth do you get 'self-absorbed'? Is PFT writing about me?
pinda
Footballguy
nah, didn't mean it to you at all, don't take it personal, i just meant it that I'm not one to care if somebody admits they are wrong to me or not.as for #2, the fact they printed it is enough for me to admit their mistake on the situation. #3, that's all that I'm saying as well, that their word shouldn't be taken as gold since they themselves admit they are rumors. They report the rumors they hear from credible sources. PFT takes a lot of heat, but I never hear guys rip apart PFW Whispers which are usually dead wrong.1. They didn't say Sherman was a rumor, they said it was done. Twice.2. The salary demand was reported by someone else, not them. They then used that to explain why they were wrong. 3. All those guys deal in rumors. But it doesn't matter. Wouldn't change my point anyways. 4. Anal and self-absorbed? Huh? Are you describing me? Where on earth do you get 'self-absorbed'? Is PFT writing about me?
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