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Phelps Ousted For Advocating 'Kinder' Westboro Baptist Church (1 Viewer)

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Pastor Fred Waldron Phelps Sr. was excommunicated from the Westboro Baptist Church after advocating a kinder approach between church members.

The excommunication occurred after the formation of a board of male elders in the church. The board had defeated Shirley Phelps-Roper, the church’s longtime spokeswoman, in a power struggle, and Fred Phelps Sr. called for kinder treatment of fellow church members.

The board then ejected Fred Phelps Sr., who founded the church in the 1950s.

The power struggle and excommunication was revealed by Nate Phelps, a son of Fred Phelps Sr. who broke away from the church 37 years ago.

The elders had a big impact on Fred Phelps Sr., Nate Phelps said. “They took the one thing that meant everything to the man,” Nate Phelps said, referring to Fred Phelps Sr.'s tie to the church. “That old man and his reason to exist have gone away.”

On Sunday, church spokesman Steve Drain refused to talk about the excommunication of Fred Phelps Sr. "We don't discuss our internal church dealings with anybody," he said.

Westboro Baptist Church, an independent fundamentalist church, is best known for its controversial anti-gay picketing and picketing of funerals, particularly funerals of American troops.

In the past, decisions in the church were made by votes of the members, but now the elders issue the decisions, Nate Phelps said.

Among the all-male board of elders are Drain, Timothy Phelps, Jonathan Phelps, Samuel Phelps-Roper, Charles Hockenbarger and Fred Phelps Jr.

Some church members are constantly anxious, Nate Phelps said, because they worry whether they are marked as being “contrary” to the church or whether their heart isn’t right.

Drain as church spokesman marked a shift from Shirley Phelps-Roper, the former longtime church spokeswoman, who was clearly a leader and an influence in the church.

Shirley Phelps-Roper and her sister, Margie Jean Phelps, represented the church as attorneys before the U.S. Supreme Court in the lawsuit originally filed by Albert Snyder, the father of a Marine who was killed in the war in Iraq in 2006. The church picketed the Marine’s funeral.

Nate Phelps said he observed that Shirley Phelps-Roper had fallen from grace and wasn’t as visible in the church as she had been while Drain and Tim Phelps had become more visible. In recent months, calls made to Shirley Phelps-Roper by The Topeka Capital-Journal have been answered by Drain.

Nate Phelps said late Saturday in a Facebook post that his father is “now on the edge of death at Midland Hospice house in Topeka.” In the post, he also revealed the excommunication. Drain acknowledged Fred Phelps Sr. has been admitted to Midland Care Hospice, adding he "has a couple things going on" but disputed the gravity of his health. "The source that says he's near death is not well informed," Drain said Sunday.

After Phelps was voted out of Westboro Baptist Church this past summer, he was moved out of the church and into a house, Nate Phelps said.

For many years, Fred Phelps Sr. and his wife, Margie Marie Phelps, lived in an upper floor of the church. The couple have 13 adult children, nine of whom remain in the church and four of whom have left the church. Roughly 20 of the couple's grandchildren also have left the church.

Fred Phelps Sr. is in and out of lucidity, Nate Phelps said, and he has a problem breathing. Drain has declined to specify Fred Phelps Sr.’s illness.
Imagine he was advocating for kinder gentler. What does that mean the new guys are like?

 
He wasn't advocating that they be kinder to anyone but each other

advocating a kinder approach between church members.

What a miserable bunch of hateful bastards. God it must suck to be them. In times less genteel I imagine they would have been rounded up and killed by now.

 
He wasn't advocating that they be kinder to anyone but each other

advocating a kinder approach between church members.

What a miserable bunch of hateful bastards. God it must suck to be them. In times less genteel I imagine they would have been rounded up and killed by now.
And that was apparently a bridge too far.

 
No way this will happen, but it would be amazing if there was an onslaught of people/groups offering sympathy and condolences when he dies and nobody talking any #### at all. "We wish you peace and comfort is this very difficult time," that kind of thing.

 
No way this will happen, but it would be amazing if there was an onslaught of people/groups offering sympathy and condolences when he dies and nobody talking any #### at all. "We wish you peace and comfort is this very difficult time," that kind of thing.
That gay ******** from Star Trek did just what you described.

 
No way this will happen, but it would be amazing if there was an onslaught of people/groups offering sympathy and condolences when he dies and nobody talking any #### at all. "We wish you peace and comfort is this very difficult time," that kind of thing.
It'd be completely lost on them.

 
This happened recently on some sort of cartoon, where the entire town got together and decided that they couldn't take any more of some character's craziness anymore and they were just going to kick them out, permanently. Maybe it was the Simpson movie. Anyhow, I think that Westboro needs to do that, have the county possess the church by whatever contrived legal means necessary and just kick the bastards out. Next town, same thing. Turn them into wandering outcasts with no church, no home, no community in the entire country even willing to tolerate their presence.

This is what needs to happen to these people. Or just save everyone the trouble and just kill them.

 
This happened recently on some sort of cartoon, where the entire town got together and decided that they couldn't take any more of some character's craziness anymore and they were just going to kick them out, permanently. Maybe it was the Simpson movie. Anyhow, I think that Westboro needs to do that, have the county possess the church by whatever contrived legal means necessary and just kick the bastards out. Next town, same thing. Turn them into wandering outcasts with no church, no home, no community in the entire country even willing to tolerate their presence.

This is what needs to happen to these people. Or just save everyone the trouble and just kill them.
 
Satanists are going to turn Fred Phelps gay when he dies

"The Satanic Temple exercised its own right to offensive Free Speech in our performance of the Pink Mass at Fred Phelps’s mother’s grave this past summer. After having two same-sex couples (one male, one female) engage in homoerotic activity at the grave site, we declared Fred Phelps’s mother a post-mortem homosexual conversion. At the time, I predicted that Fred hadn’t too much longer till he would pass, and I stated – in a direct tweet to the WBC – that I would be presiding over Fred’s own Pink Mass before too long. As I have made a promise to a dying man, I fully intend to do my very best to see it through, and the pomp and circumstance of this Pink Mass will surely far, far exceed that of the original event in Meridian, Mississippi."
 
This happened recently on some sort of cartoon, where the entire town got together and decided that they couldn't take any more of some character's craziness anymore and they were just going to kick them out, permanently. Maybe it was the Simpson movie. Anyhow, I think that Westboro needs to do that, have the county possess the church by whatever contrived legal means necessary and just kick the bastards out. Next town, same thing. Turn them into wandering outcasts with no church, no home, no community in the entire country even willing to tolerate their presence.

This is what needs to happen to these people. Or just save everyone the trouble and just kill them.
You have such a gentle heart

What are you going to kill them with anti-gun guy?

 
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Carolina Hustler said:
Clifford said:
This happened recently on some sort of cartoon, where the entire town got together and decided that they couldn't take any more of some character's craziness anymore and they were just going to kick them out, permanently. Maybe it was the Simpson movie. Anyhow, I think that Westboro needs to do that, have the county possess the church by whatever contrived legal means necessary and just kick the bastards out. Next town, same thing. Turn them into wandering outcasts with no church, no home, no community in the entire country even willing to tolerate their presence.

This is what needs to happen to these people. Or just save everyone the trouble and just kill them.
You have such a gentle heart

What are you going to kill them with anti-gun guy?
Why everything is a lethal weapon according to the gun fondlers so he has no shortage of options.

 
Carolina Hustler said:
Clifford said:
This happened recently on some sort of cartoon, where the entire town got together and decided that they couldn't take any more of some character's craziness anymore and they were just going to kick them out, permanently. Maybe it was the Simpson movie. Anyhow, I think that Westboro needs to do that, have the county possess the church by whatever contrived legal means necessary and just kick the bastards out. Next town, same thing. Turn them into wandering outcasts with no church, no home, no community in the entire country even willing to tolerate their presence.

This is what needs to happen to these people. Or just save everyone the trouble and just kill them.
You have such a gentle heart

What are you going to kill them with anti-gun guy?
Why everything is a lethal weapon according to the gun fondlers so he has no shortage of options.
We better just assume nobody can be killed after guns are removed, it fits your narrative better.

 
Carolina Hustler said:
Clifford said:
This happened recently on some sort of cartoon, where the entire town got together and decided that they couldn't take any more of some character's craziness anymore and they were just going to kick them out, permanently. Maybe it was the Simpson movie. Anyhow, I think that Westboro needs to do that, have the county possess the church by whatever contrived legal means necessary and just kick the bastards out. Next town, same thing. Turn them into wandering outcasts with no church, no home, no community in the entire country even willing to tolerate their presence.

This is what needs to happen to these people. Or just save everyone the trouble and just kill them.
You have such a gentle heartWhat are you going to kill them with anti-gun guy?
With love and gay porn?

 
Carolina Hustler said:
Clifford said:
This happened recently on some sort of cartoon, where the entire town got together and decided that they couldn't take any more of some character's craziness anymore and they were just going to kick them out, permanently. Maybe it was the Simpson movie. Anyhow, I think that Westboro needs to do that, have the county possess the church by whatever contrived legal means necessary and just kick the bastards out. Next town, same thing. Turn them into wandering outcasts with no church, no home, no community in the entire country even willing to tolerate their presence.

This is what needs to happen to these people. Or just save everyone the trouble and just kill them.
You have such a gentle heart

What are you going to kill them with anti-gun guy?
Why everything is a lethal weapon according to the gun fondlers so he has no shortage of options.
Yeah, I'm going to use something really deadly like a car or hammer or knife. Something dangerous...

 
This happened recently on some sort of cartoon, where the entire town got together and decided that they couldn't take any more of some character's craziness anymore and they were just going to kick them out, permanently. Maybe it was the Simpson movie. Anyhow, I think that Westboro needs to do that, have the county possess the church by whatever contrived legal means necessary and just kick the bastards out. Next town, same thing. Turn them into wandering outcasts with no church, no home, no community in the entire country even willing to tolerate their presence.

This is what needs to happen to these people. Or just save everyone the trouble and just kill them.
You have such a gentle heart

What are you going to kill them with anti-gun guy?
Why everything is a lethal weapon according to the gun fondlers so he has no shortage of options.
Yeah, I'm going to use something really deadly like a car or hammer or knife. Something dangerous...
There are many power tools that would also work.

 
This happened recently on some sort of cartoon, where the entire town got together and decided that they couldn't take any more of some character's craziness anymore and they were just going to kick them out, permanently. Maybe it was the Simpson movie. Anyhow, I think that Westboro needs to do that, have the county possess the church by whatever contrived legal means necessary and just kick the bastards out. Next town, same thing. Turn them into wandering outcasts with no church, no home, no community in the entire country even willing to tolerate their presence.

This is what needs to happen to these people. Or just save everyone the trouble and just kill them.
You have such a gentle heartWhat are you going to kill them with anti-gun guy?
Why everything is a lethal weapon according to the gun fondlers so he has no shortage of options.
Yeah, I'm going to use something really deadly like a car or hammer or knife. Something dangerous...
Would those things kill them less or something?
 
This happened recently on some sort of cartoon, where the entire town got together and decided that they couldn't take any more of some character's craziness anymore and they were just going to kick them out, permanently. Maybe it was the Simpson movie. Anyhow, I think that Westboro needs to do that, have the county possess the church by whatever contrived legal means necessary and just kick the bastards out. Next town, same thing. Turn them into wandering outcasts with no church, no home, no community in the entire country even willing to tolerate their presence.

This is what needs to happen to these people. Or just save everyone the trouble and just kill them.
You have such a gentle heart

What are you going to kill them with anti-gun guy?
Why everything is a lethal weapon according to the gun fondlers so he has no shortage of options.
Yeah, I'm going to use something really deadly like a car or hammer or knife. Something dangerous...
Or a spoon as some fondler pointed out on Fox, that could kill someone. Especially those grapefruit spoons with the serration on the end. Stabby.

 
So I wonder if the satanists are going to really do the pink mass on his grave like they did his mom. They said they were as they promised they would and they hate to break their word.

 

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