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Philadelphia Eagles Training Camp (1 Viewer)

Jeff Pasquino

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Managed to get over to Lehigh this morning, so here is what I saw:

Kevin Curtis was the highlight of the drills. Several good catches from 10-30 yards, and he looked sharp. Didn't drop a ball.
Curtis lined up nearly every time to the left with Reggie Brown on the right. 2 WR formation, so don't expect Curtis to normally be in a slot position.
McNabb was NOT on the field at all.
Hank Baskett looks to be the clear #3 WR, and he showed good hands.
Jason Avant was a distant 4th and caught only 2 or 3 balls for short yardage.
The drills were 7 on 7, 11 on 11 and also some WR drills working on DBs (2 on 2 w/ QB). They also did several drives (like a 1 min drill) throughout the morning.
Practice was a brisk pace from 8:15 to 10:30 AM. HC Reid in the middle of it all, and owner Jeff Lurie was on the sidelines.
Defense - Trent Cole looked quick. Broke up a rollout by rookie Kevin Kolb during 11 on 11.
Kolb looked decent, hitting Curtis deep on a nice 40 yard strike.
Rookies #17 (Jamison) and #88 (Collie) at WR looked ok, going about 50-50 on receptions in coverage.
Some good mixed drills in lineups, such as 2nd D vs 1st 0. LB Matt McCoy was on 2nd squad and he put a solid lick on RB Tony Hunt in the left flat
Westbrook wasn't used much. Ryan Moats and Hunt both worked on the first team.
First D - LBs - SLB = Gocong. MLB = Trotter. WILL = Takeo Spikes. Spikes was quick and covered SL to SL.
#35 Nick Graham (CB) stuck Reggie Brown going along the seam.
#77 LaJuan Ramsey (DL) broke up a THunt run in the backfield.
#27 Quentin Mikell (CB) picked off a pass from AJFeeley in 7 on 7 drills
#31 Rashad Barksdale (CB) also had an INT from a tipped pass
LJ Smith was playing (and no red jersey) and had a few catches over the middle in 7 on 7 and 11 on 11.
#87 TE Brent Celek looks like a big target.
WR Greg Lewis looked ok with a few catches. Seems ahead of Avant.
#19 Michael Gasperson (WR) was open deep but poorly timed a pass intended for him. He didn't run as hard as he should and the ball fell incomplete. The pass looked fine.
RB Ryan Moats looked good, but then he fumbled about 2/3 into practice (recovered by Holcomb).
RB Nate Ilaoa looked quick and powerful running around the left, but he didn't look like he did well when trying to cut. Could be a short yardage option.
Starting DL was Kearse, Patterson, Bunkley and TCole.
WR Reggie Brown toasted Joselio Hanson EASILY on a deep (35-40 yd) TD pass in the 1-minute drill.
LB Omar Gaither is running on 2nd D.
#30 CJ Gaddis put a nice hit on RB Hunt.
#75 Juqua Thomas beat Thomas "hell" Tapeh for a sack.
Tony Hunt scored a Red Zone / goal line TD in the next batch of full team / 1-min drills. He looked quick in and out of the hold.
Akers drilled long FGs from 50+, nailing 2 from 53.
KRs were Bloom (who looks fast), GLewis, Barksdale and MoatsThat's it for now.

 
Did you get over to Musikfest for lunch?

Would definitely recommend it to anyone going to camp, its right across the river and walking distance from Starters Riverport.

 
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I went yesterday afternoon, but nothing interesting as it was non tackling. Hunt did get a lot of work though.

 
To piggy-back on what Jeff was saying, here's some stuff I saw from last week:

- The LB's looked good. I expect a big improvement from last year. Trotter knows Gaither is breathing down his neck and he's stepping it up.

- Bunkley is looking like the high first round pick he was drafted to be. In general I expect the defense to be much improved

- Agree on Curtis, he could be a huge sleeper this year if McNabb stays healthy.

- Avant looked really good. He's more of a possession WR though.

- Bloom looked great, but don't expect him to play any WR, he's a midget.

All in all, I think Curtis, the Philly D/ST and Hunt (in deep leagues) could be great 'value' picks in leagues. The reason I put Hunt in there is because Westbrook is always dinged and I believe Hunt will be the guy to replace him if that happens. He's looked REALLY good.

 
zadok said:
Deranged Hermit said:
- Bloom looked great, but don't expect him to play any WR, he's a midget.
Same height as Steve Smith, Santana Moss, Wes Welker, etc. I think you can definately expect to see him run a few deep routes on offense this season.
:popcorn: I just don't see him playing much, if at all, at WR. Running back kicks is a different animal than catching a ball with a CB draped all over you.
 
zadok said:
Deranged Hermit said:
- Bloom looked great, but don't expect him to play any WR, he's a midget.
Same height as Steve Smith, Santana Moss, Wes Welker, etc. I think you can definately expect to see him run a few deep routes on offense this season.
:rolleyes: I just don't see him playing much, if at all, at WR. Running back kicks is a different animal than catching a ball with a CB draped all over you.
Bloom has said that he's still learning how to be a WR, let alone an NFL one. He was a snowboarder in college more than a WR. He was a KR/PR specialist, and if/when he makes the team that'll be his role this year. He may play in 4-5 WR sets and run a "9" go route, but that's about it.
 
zadok said:
Andy Dufresne said:
Reggie Brown - Viable #3 WR in a non-ppr?
Without a doubt. I have him projected as a mid level WR2.
Reggie's a $ WR3, borderline WR2 in 12-teamers.Curtis appears to be not far behind.I did some projections for the Eagles as I did Spotlights on Curtis and LJ, and I can see Curtis with 900 yards and 6 TDs with LJ getting about 600 yards and 5 TDs.Brown should be pushing 1,000 and Westy about 700. That's the issue I had - 4 guys with 3200 yards. I think Philly will be at 4,000+, but that's only 800+ for Baskett / Avant / TE2 / RBs other than Westy. Doable, but just keep that in mind.IIRC Philly was about 4250 yards as a team passing last year.
 
zadok said:
Andy Dufresne said:
Reggie Brown - Viable #3 WR in a non-ppr?
Without a doubt. I have him projected as a mid level WR2.
Reggie's a $ WR3, borderline WR2 in 12-teamers.lly was about 4250 yards as a team passing last year.
I thought as much, but when it comes to draft time the health of McNabb scares me off.
That's the number one problem drafting any Eagle outside of Westbrook (who obviously has his own (injury) issues).Sure, they'll light it up for a few weeks - until the dreaded injury to McNabb. Then it's possibly a rookie at the helm? Best be looking to trade your Eagles players a few weeks into the season... ;)
 
Sure, they'll light it up for a few weeks - until the dreaded injury to McNabb. Then it's possibly a rookie at the helm?
Ummm, no.
Notice the 'possibly'.If it's late enough in the year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid put in Kolb. NOt saying it would happen, but it's possible.
:confused: McNabb had some pretty freak accidents and is coming along from this last one very nicely. No reason to expect an injury. The only time you can count on Kolb coming in is if the Eagles have enough wins to rest some starters in week 16/17.Besides, did you see what QBs not named McNabb did last year? I wouldn't worry about it even if it did happen.
 
How did Gocong look? Manbeast?
Gocong was at the SAM and he was minimalized. Takeo did most of the work. Trotter was meh.There was one end run by either Hunt or Ilaoa (I think Ilaoa, but this description makes me question it) where he juked Trotter then got tackled hard by Takeo.Takeo was all over the ballcarrier even on the edges. Gocong, not so much.
 
Sure, they'll light it up for a few weeks - until the dreaded injury to McNabb. Then it's possibly a rookie at the helm?
Ummm, no.
Notice the 'possibly'.If it's late enough in the year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid put in Kolb. NOt saying it would happen, but it's possible.
Besides, did you see what QBs not named McNabb did last year?
I did. I saw what QBs not named McNabb did two years ago as well, and it wasn't pretty...
 
Sure, they'll light it up for a few weeks - until the dreaded injury to McNabb. Then it's possibly a rookie at the helm?
Ummm, no.
Notice the 'possibly'.If it's late enough in the year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Reid put in Kolb. NOt saying it would happen, but it's possible.
Besides, did you see what QBs not named McNabb did last year?
I did. I saw what QBs not named McNabb did two years ago as well, and it wasn't pretty...
AJ Feeley was more desired by Reid than Garcia, but Feeley was under contract in SD at the time. Once Feeley was available, they grabbed him.Yes, they think he's better. I'm not sure I disagree.
 
Sure, they'll light it up for a few weeks - until the dreaded injury to McNabb. Then it's possibly a rookie at the helm?
Ummm, no.
A.J. Feeley? :yucky:
Like him or not, Feeley is the #2 this year (and probably next). There is no way Kolb sees the field, none. If McNabb and Feeley both go down, they would sign a vet to start before him.
I disagree with much of this- not that we will know until next year. I think Kolb is the number two next year. Second round picks can only sign 4 year contracts. I don't think that they invest the value of a second round pick, the energy (I realize second round picks are pretty cheap) to teach a guy and not give him him a shot until his contract is half up. I think he could even be the number two by week 12. Kolb was a four year starter in college and is more pro ready than most rookies.
 
Sure, they'll light it up for a few weeks - until the dreaded injury to McNabb. Then it's possibly a rookie at the helm?
Ummm, no.
A.J. Feeley? :shrug:
Like him or not, Feeley is the #2 this year (and probably next). There is no way Kolb sees the field, none. If McNabb and Feeley both go down, they would sign a vet to start before him.
I disagree with much of this- not that we will know until next year. I think Kolb is the number two next year. Second round picks can only sign 4 year contracts. I don't think that they invest the value of a second round pick, the energy (I realize second round picks are pretty cheap) to teach a guy and not give him him a shot until his contract is half up. I think he could even be the number two by week 12. Kolb was a four year starter in college and is more pro ready than most rookies.
Dont they still have Holcomb? Or did they trade him already?Thanks for the updates as we dont get much philly sports news down here. Used to go to camp every year, now i go through withdrawal when football season starts
 
hotdogcollars said:
Dont they still have Holcomb? Or did they trade him already?
They still have ol' Kelly. I just don't see how they can keep 4 QBs. If they can get a pick for him, they would jump on it.
 
rabidfireweasel said:
Sure, they'll light it up for a few weeks - until the dreaded injury to McNabb. Then it's possibly a rookie at the helm?
Ummm, no.
A.J. Feeley? :loco:
Like him or not, Feeley is the #2 this year (and probably next). There is no way Kolb sees the field, none. If McNabb and Feeley both go down, they would sign a vet to start before him.
I disagree with much of this- not that we will know until next year. I think Kolb is the number two next year. Second round picks can only sign 4 year contracts. I don't think that they invest the value of a second round pick, the energy (I realize second round picks are pretty cheap) to teach a guy and not give him him a shot until his contract is half up. I think he could even be the number two by week 12. Kolb was a four year starter in college and is more pro ready than most rookies.
Week 12 this year Kolb will be #2??? How much are we wagering? He may challenge Feeley for #2 next year, I just don't think so. I'm not hating on him, he looks solid so far, but the truth is a tough pill to swallow: Kolb is a long term insurance policy ala Tommy Maddox to Elway.
 
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Sure, they'll light it up for a few weeks - until the dreaded injury to McNabb. Then it's possibly a rookie at the helm?
Ummm, no.
A.J. Feeley? :shrug:
Like him or not, Feeley is the #2 this year (and probably next). There is no way Kolb sees the field, none. If McNabb and Feeley both go down, they would sign a vet to start before him.
So in the middle of the season they would sign someone completely out of the blue and start him immediately in front of the rookie that has been practicing all year?That's just flat out dumb thinking.
 
Sure, they'll light it up for a few weeks - until the dreaded injury to McNabb. Then it's possibly a rookie at the helm?
Ummm, no.
A.J. Feeley? :thumbup:
Like him or not, Feeley is the #2 this year (and probably next). There is no way Kolb sees the field, none. If McNabb and Feeley both go down, they would sign a vet to start before him.
So in the middle of the season they would sign someone completely out of the blue and start him immediately in front of the rookie that has been practicing all year?That's just flat out dumb thinking.
Thanks for the input. I consider myself a pretty knowledgeable fan, but maybe that's just my "dumb thinking" popping up again...
 
Been there three times so far and agree with most... Bunkley looks real good.. Trotter as well.... The area I differ in is Curtis.... Looks good in drills... Going live had trouble with bump and run from Will James.... rarely was open... and once or twice seemed to run the wrong route.... Can't be a bigger Eagles fan than me.... Curtis is not and will not be the answer this year IMO... Rather the 30 mil went to Stallworth for 10 games or so to open the offense up... Brown will be affected by this as well as he gets the number 1 corner now and the safeties will cheat towards him and Westy.... Just my .02

 
I didn't know what thread to say this in, and I didn't want to make a new one....so I'm just going to say it here to get it in print early. Kevin Kolb is gonna put up HUGE numbers in this system when it's his turn.

 

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