Philip Rivers has a partially torn ACL? (1 Viewer)

[trader jake]

From PFT:

Butch Stearns of WFXT in Boston reports that Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers has a partially torn ACL, but will try to play on Sunday against the Patriots.The Chargers had described Rivers’ injury as an MCL sprain. Rivers reportedly plans to attempt to play.Earlier in the week, we received a tip that Chargers quarterback Billy Voley had been told that he’ll be playing against the Patriots. However, we couldn’t corroborate it. Today’s report would tend to make it more plausible.

Billy Volek played well in limited duty against Indy but losing a starting QB hurts any team. The Chargers look too banged up to make the AFC Championship a real competitive contest.

 

[Phlash]

Ouch if true. Chargers fans can't be looking forward to this game with much enthusiasm... Pats are going to go full force, I think, whether against backups or not.

 

[Gr00vus]

That's the first I've heard about torn ACL. They've said he has sprained his MCL in both knees all along:

AP Article from this afternoon

L.T. returns to practice for Chargers while Rivers sits out again

ASSOCIATED PRESS

5:26 p.m. January 17, 2008

SAN DIEGO – The San Diego Chargers are slowly getting back their injured players ahead of the AFC championship game Sunday against the undefeated New England Patriots.

Although quarterback Philip Rivers sat out for the second straight day with a sprained right knee, two-time NFL rushing champion LaDainian Tomlinson returned to practice Thursday after sitting out Wednesday to rest his hyperextended left knee.

“I think we're making progress,” coach Norv Turner said. “L.T. was able to practice and we had some guys moving around. I think we'll get a couple more guys practicing tomorrow.”

Tomlinson and Rivers were hurt in Sunday's 28-24 upset win over Indianapolis.

Turner said Tomlinson looked good.

Rivers “was wanting to go out and throw some and take some drops today,” but the team's trainer didn't think it was appropriate,” Turner said. “So we'll see where it is tomorrow.”

Also sitting out were tight end Antonio Gates (toe) and defensive tackle Jamal Williams (ankle).

Outside linebacker Shawne Merriman was limited again due to an illness.

SD Union Trib article from today:

Chargers have Volek as collateral if Rivers out

By Bill Center

UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

January 17, 2008

Suddenly, all of San Diego is talking about the MCL.

That would be the medial collateral ligament.

Graphic: Rivers' knee injuries

We all have two, one each on the inside of our knees. Healthy MCLs give us stability.

But a pair of damaged MCLs to quarterback Philip Rivers has led to a great deal of instability these days among the Chargers and their fans.

Will Rivers be able to play Sunday in the AFC Championship Game?

Rivers says yes.

But coach Norv Turner yesterday admitted that had the game been played yesterday, Rivers would have watched from the sideline, as he did at the end of the Chargers' win in Indianapolis last Sunday.

Without divulging details of his treatment, Rivers yesterday said he is “optimistic” he'll be able to face the Patriots.

“I'm treating it like crazy,” Rivers said of the sprained MCL to his right knee suffered last Sunday. “Obviously the goal is to be ready to play on Sunday. I'm feeling pretty good. It's feeling better.”

Rivers said he also expects to practice tomorrow morning before the Chargers fly across country.

“That's what I'm shooting for,” said Rivers. “Obviously I know how important it is as a quarterback to practice and get going a little bit. That's certainly what I'm going to try to get done.

“If not, the goal is toward being out there on Sunday. Obviously we know the challenge that's ahead.”

When Rivers appeared in front of the microphones yesterday at the Chargers training site, his right leg was heavily bandaged. His left leg was not – which could be seen as good news.

Remember, Rivers has two damaged MCLs.

The medial collateral ligament in his left knee was sprained on Dec. 9 against Tennessee. Rivers returned to finish that game and rallied the Chargers to a victory. But he has played with a brace on that knee since.

The MCL sprain he suffered Sunday was to the right knee. That's two unstable MCLs – the latest to the leg he plants when he throws, a fact that doesn't seem to concern Rivers.

“I think if anything really it's probably a plus, to be honest with you,” said Rivers. “Anytime that lead leg is messed up, that can affect you mentally.

“I'm really, really optimistic I'm going to be good to go. It's just a matter of working through some of the pain and the issues now to be ready.”

The Chargers, of course, are mum about the degree of Rivers' latest MCL injury and the treatment he is receiving.

But the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons has a clear graphic of the knee, the MCL and treatments of MCL injuries on its Web site.

The good news for the Chargers: According to the AAOS, most MCL injuries can be treated nonsurgically.

How? The AAOS spells out the treatment as RICE – rest, ice (two or three times a day), compress (to limit swelling) and elevate (whenever possible).

Of course, there's always a chance the knee won't allow Rivers to play Sunday, which would make Billy Volek the quarterback. If that's the case, Rivers believes the Chargers will still be in good hands.

“Again, I hope I'm going to be ready to go,” said Rivers. “But if not, I have all the confidence and I know the team has all the confidence that Billy will step in and keep us going.”

Turner said the Chargers are ready for any possibilities.

“Billy took all the reps today and Billy had a good practice,” said Turner. “There are things that he does differently and there are things that he does the same.

“We just have to get everyone else ready to play so if Philip is playing then they are playing at a high level, and if he isn't then I think Billy is ready to step in and play well.”

I don't think this Boston reporter guy has it right.

 

[DanFouts]

IMHO Rivers is more important to a possible victory then LT.

I think Turner/Sproles>>>>>Volek

Rivers long ball, fade, and timing with Chambers/VJ has significantly improved over the last 6 weeks. He is the most important cog now that they are stacking the box and limiting LT. Teams are challenging Rivers to beat them and he has.

With Rivers, I see Chargers have a 30% chance of winning.

Volek, with limited play time, IMO a weaker, less accurate arm will be a mess. If Volek goes, I see Chargers have a 5% chance of winning......

 

[BelichicksRevenge]

IMHO Rivers is more important to a possible victory then LT. I think Turner/Sproles>>>>>Volek Rivers long ball, fade, and timing with Chambers/VJ has significantly improved over the last 6 weeks. He is the most important cog now that they are stacking the box and limiting LT. Teams are challenging Rivers to beat them and he has.With Rivers, I see Chargers have a 30% chance of winning.Volek, with limited play time, IMO a weaker, less accurate arm will be a mess. If Volek goes, I see Chargers have a 5% chance of winning......

I always thought Volek was fairly accurate but he does not have a strong arm. The weaker the arm the more trouble he will have in blustery conditions.

 

[snogger]

From PFT:

Butch Stearns of WFXT in Boston reports that Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers has a partially torn ACL, but will try to play on Sunday against the Patriots.

The Chargers had described Rivers’ injury as an MCL sprain. Rivers reportedly plans to attempt to play.

Earlier in the week, we received a tip that Chargers quarterback Billy Voley had been told that he’ll be playing against the Patriots. However, we couldn’t corroborate it. Today’s report would tend to make it more plausible.

Billy Volek played well in limited duty against Indy but losing a starting QB hurts any team. The Chargers look too banged up to make the AFC Championship a real competitive contest.

A lot of backup QB's look good in limited Emergency play. Defenses plan all week to defend one type of QB. When a Back-up comes in that plays differently than how they planned they have a difficult time adjusting.

Patriots, having a week to prepare for Volek, is NOT good.

 

[Brutis]

If this is true wouldnt he be listed as "Out" for sunday?

 

[Despyzer]

IMHO Rivers is more important to a possible victory then LT. I think Turner/Sproles>>>>>Volek Rivers long ball, fade, and timing with Chambers/VJ has significantly improved over the last 6 weeks. He is the most important cog now that they are stacking the box and limiting LT. Teams are challenging Rivers to beat them and he has.With Rivers, I see Chargers have a 30% chance of winning.Volek, with limited play time, IMO a weaker, less accurate arm will be a mess. If Volek goes, I see Chargers have a 5% chance of winning......

This is pretty much how I see it as well. Their chances with a healthy Rivers aren't good. Their chances with a hobbled Rivers are poor. Their chances with Volek are almost non-existent. Rivers is the most important person on that team right now.

 

[Despyzer]

If this is true wouldnt he be listed as "Out" for sunday?

Butch Stearns of WFXT in Boston reports that Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers has a partially torn ACL, but will try to play on Sunday against the Patriots.

The Chargers had described Rivers’ injury as an MCL sprain. Rivers reportedly plans to attempt to play.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

With how good the Patriots are and how banged up the Chargers are with key people, I don't think I've ever seen a bigger mismatch in a championship game on paper.

We'll see how it plays out.

 

[Spike]

FWIW, a sprain is a partial tear.

 

[Road Warriors]

With how good the Patriots are and how banged up the Chargers are with key people, I don't think I've ever seen a bigger mismatch in a championship game on paper.We'll see how it plays out.

It feels a bit like the other side of the coin from the 2001 SB, from a Pats fan POV. Here's to hoping there's no looking past a fired up SD team.

 

[Spike]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

How what would look? The Patriots are a better team even if the chargers are fully healthy. However, the Chargers would have a fighting chance if their rb, qb, te and defensive line stud were healthy.

 

[redman]

FWIW, a sprain is a partial tear.

We aren't going to find out about the true extent of this injury until the Chargers' postseason is finished.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

FWIW, a sprain is a partial tear.

We aren't going to find out about the true extent of this injury until the Chargers' postseason is finished.

So I guess Sunday night, will get the word.

 

[redman]

FWIW, a sprain is a partial tear.

We aren't going to find out about the true extent of this injury until the Chargers' postseason is finished.

So I guess Sunday night, will get the word.

Layup. I was already thinking that response as I was typing my post.

 

[TD Ryan]

was it '05 that Volek finished the season on a tear win TEN?

I had him as a backup fantasy QB that year and he won a lot for me.

As a Pats fan, I'll admit I'm a bit concerned that yet another backup QB, with nothing to lose, is going to have the game of his life against NE. It isn't like Billy Volek hasn't strung together some big passing games in the past. He's no Matt Cassell.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I'll leave the thread open, but I think I know where this rumor comes from, and I think it's wrong.

A caller called a local (SD) sports radio station this week saying he knew one of the Chargers trainers, and that Rivers had a torn ACL and was done for the year. The hosts said, "Don't you mean MCL?" The caller said, "Yeah, MCL, right." The hosts doubted the caller's story.

So the ACL thing has been posted to Charger message boards after that call. If that's where PFT picked up on it (via the Boston reporter), I don't think there's anything to it.

 

[Gr00vus]

FWIW, a sprain is a partial tear.

I think many of us knew that. The question is ACL vs. MCL. ACL is more serious than MCL I believe. All reports have been MCL.Also Rivers threw on the side yesterday and said his knees are feeling better. He want to practice today before they go to Boston. Norv has said he'll see what he can do pre-game on Sunday and if he looks o.k. Rivers will start.

I'm starting to think Rivers will play Sunday, at least initially. I still don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I guess nobody will really know until he's out there and we can see for ourselves.

If he is out there I expect the Pats to blitz like crazy. I hope the line can hold up and play like it did last Sunday, and that Norv has some short routes ready.

 

[Texasmouth]

Ithink the Chargers will lose just as well with Volek as they would have with Rivers.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

According to NFLN, Rivers practiced today.

Chargers' press conferences are just starting now, so more info should be available soon.

 

[uclarick]

According to NFLN, Rivers practiced today.Chargers' press conferences are just starting now, so more info should be available soon.

Rivers will be listed as Doubtful, per Norv's press conference.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Officially doubtful, and "sources" indicate his ACL is partially torn.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

From Rivers' press conference: He walked to the podium without a limp. He is saying he didn't have a setback and is still confident he'll be ready. The injury listing is based on all the missed snaps in practice this week. He said all the injury has done is take his forty time from a 5 flat to 5.4 so he doesn't think it's going to effect the way anyone schemes.

 

[DanFouts]

From Rivers' press conference: He walked to the podium without a limp. He is saying he didn't have a setback and is still confident he'll be ready. The injury listing is based on all the missed snaps in practice this week. He said all the injury has done is take his forty time from a 5 flat to 5.4 so he doesn't think it's going to effect the way anyone schemes.

Good info. I think a 75% Rivers >> then 100% VolekBut anything less then that, I think we are done for......

 

[TommyGilmore]

ennisDixon:

 

[TommyGilmore]

Officially doubtful, and "sources" indicate his ACL is partially torn.

I have a friend-of-a-friend who knows someone within the Chargers, so take this with a HUGE grain of salt, but what I just heard was that:A, Rivers is more seriously injured than they are letting on;

and

B, Tomlinson is just fine.

 

[twitch]

Officially doubtful, and "sources" indicate his ACL is partially torn.

I have a friend-of-a-friend who knows someone within the Chargers, so take this with a HUGE grain of salt, but what I just heard was that:A, Rivers is more seriously injured than they are letting on;

and

B, Tomlinson is just fine.

I would tend to buy this. Rivers is injured, whether its the MCL or ACL, I doubt he'll play. But LT only hyperextended that knee, so he may be a little dinged, but he'll be pretty much good to go. Losing Rivers sucks, even from my perspective. Its not the same taking on this team with a backup Q on such short notice. But hey, the guy's a pro, so we'll see what happens.

 

[BaBastage]

I expect Rivers will probably start, but if nothing else, SD wants to make NE *think* he'll play, so at the very least, NE has to plan for 2 different QB's.

Assuming Rivers doesn't play (or gets pulled because of injury or ineffectiveness because of his injury), and Volek Steps in, how much film does NE have to prepare for the Volek offense?

That's the only shot I think SD has of winning this game. And it's a small one.

 

[mad sweeney]

Officially doubtful, and "sources" indicate his ACL is partially torn.

I have a friend-of-a-friend who knows someone within the Chargers, so take this with a HUGE grain of salt, but what I just heard was that:A, Rivers is more seriously injured than they are letting on;

and

B, Tomlinson is just fine.

I would tend to buy this. Rivers is injured, whether its the MCL or ACL, I doubt he'll play. But LT only hyperextended that knee, so he may be a little dinged, but he'll be pretty much good to go. Losing Rivers sucks, even from my perspective. Its not the same taking on this team with a backup Q on such short notice. But hey, the guy's a pro, so we'll see what happens.

It will make the Charger's victory that much sweeter!At least he has starting experience and is getting reps in practice. Much better than losing Rivers on the first series. This absolutely reduces the Chargers' already low chances of winning, but I still have faith in a good game. If the D can keep the O in the game and LT can exorcise his demons. Maybe prove to the new haters that he IS a leader.

Any info on Gates and what percentage he is?

 

[trader jake]

ennisDixon:

I was thinking the same thing. I don't see the point in announcing to the Patriots if Rivers is out...and if you're Rivers why wouldn't you at least give it a shot?I'd guess we'll see Volek for 3+ quarters Sunday.

 

[twitch]

Officially doubtful, and "sources" indicate his ACL is partially torn.

I have a friend-of-a-friend who knows someone within the Chargers, so take this with a HUGE grain of salt, but what I just heard was that:A, Rivers is more seriously injured than they are letting on;

and

B, Tomlinson is just fine.

I would tend to buy this. Rivers is injured, whether its the MCL or ACL, I doubt he'll play. But LT only hyperextended that knee, so he may be a little dinged, but he'll be pretty much good to go. Losing Rivers sucks, even from my perspective. Its not the same taking on this team with a backup Q on such short notice. But hey, the guy's a pro, so we'll see what happens.

It will make the Charger's victory that much sweeter!At least he has starting experience and is getting reps in practice. Much better than losing Rivers on the first series. This absolutely reduces the Chargers' already low chances of winning, but I still have faith in a good game. If the D can keep the O in the game and LT can exorcise his demons. Maybe prove to the new haters that he IS a leader.

Any info on Gates and what percentage he is?

I expect Tomlinson to have the game of his life. I really do. Im sure NE will primarily gameplan to slow him down. But I still think he'll be tough to stop. I havent heard anything different on Gates other than what everyone else has heard which is that he's technically Ques. because of limited practice, but no doubt he'll play. I dont think he's more than maybe 70%. Meaning he can run some routes, probably get open, but not really make plays. Plus, he's going to be asked to block either Adalius Thomas or Vrabel with a bad toe, and that's not good for Gates.

 

[The Moz]

BB will game plan to shutdown LT or Turner and make Volek or Rivers beat them. NE doesn't fear either QB but are scared of LT. I doubt LT does much but expect Chambvers and Jackson to have nice games

 

[pizzatyme]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

 

[Bill Lust]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

The Colts had injury problems this year. We get it. Are the Colts going to take an ad out during the SB to point out that is why they are not there?FWIW to everyone else, Butch Stearns is not the most airtight source of information. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

 

[craxie]

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/01/19...0_351_18_08.txt

When asked Friday night about media reports claiming Rivers also has a partial tear of his anterior cruciate ligament, a far more serious injury, Chargers president Dean Spanos said, "It's not true."

 

[pizzatyme]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

The Colts had injury problems this year. We get it. Are the Colts going to take an ad out during the SB to point out that is why they are not there?FWIW to everyone else, Butch Stearns is not the most airtight source of information. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

I'm not making excuses. I'm not whining. I just get tired of people saying "if we were only healthy." Well, if the Colts were healthy, you wouldn't even be playing this game against the Patriots, so quit whining.

 

[Bill Lust]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

The Colts had injury problems this year. We get it. Are the Colts going to take an ad out during the SB to point out that is why they are not there?FWIW to everyone else, Butch Stearns is not the most airtight source of information. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

I'm not making excuses. I'm not whining. I just get tired of people saying "if we were only healthy." Well, if the Colts were healthy, you wouldn't even be playing this game against the Patriots, so quit whining.

The way that the two teams played on Sunday, I am not sure I buy that at all. BTW - I obviously wrote that in the middle of the night, and reading it now it comes off as really obnoxious. That was not my intention. Sorry.

 

[mad sweeney]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

The Colts had injury problems this year. We get it. Are the Colts going to take an ad out during the SB to point out that is why they are not there?FWIW to everyone else, Butch Stearns is not the most airtight source of information. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

I'm not making excuses. I'm not whining. I just get tired of people saying "if we were only healthy." Well, if the Colts were healthy, you wouldn't even be playing this game against the Patriots, so quit whining.

I don't see it as whining, just as a desire to see two healthy teams banging it out instead of one team really banged up. Makes for a better game. I wish for that in almost every game between great teams. But you can't make any statement in the SP without someone calling it whining or ptts or something else stupid like that.

 

[pizzatyme]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

The Colts had injury problems this year. We get it. Are the Colts going to take an ad out during the SB to point out that is why they are not there?FWIW to everyone else, Butch Stearns is not the most airtight source of information. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

I'm not making excuses. I'm not whining. I just get tired of people saying "if we were only healthy." Well, if the Colts were healthy, you wouldn't even be playing this game against the Patriots, so quit whining.

I don't see it as whining, just as a desire to see two healthy teams banging it out instead of one team really banged up. Makes for a better game. I wish for that in almost every game between great teams. But you can't make any statement in the SP without someone calling it whining or ptts or something else stupid like that.

I agree, I'm sure I took it wrong as I'm still pissed about the loss. When I read it, I thought it would have been nice to have a healthy Harrison, Freeney, Booger McFarland and Rob Morris.So let's hope Rivers and LT can play good games and see how it shakes out.

 

[[scooter]]

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/01/19...0_351_18_08.txt

When asked Friday night about media reports claiming Rivers also has a partial tear of his anterior cruciate ligament, a far more serious injury, Chargers president Dean Spanos said, "It's not true."

It's not true because he actually has a complete tear of the ACL.

 

[Tom Baker]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

The Colts had injury problems this year. We get it. Are the Colts going to take an ad out during the SB to point out that is why they are not there?FWIW to everyone else, Butch Stearns is not the most airtight source of information. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

Well, if the Colts were healthy, you wouldn't even be playing this game against the Patriots

This is probably true. If the Colts had been at full strength, with a healthy set of refs gifting them bad call after bad call, playing against a Chargers team without LT, Rivers, and Gates, the Colts might very well have won . . .

 

[cstu]

No problem here, Rivers will just yell at his knees until they start working properly. He's the new Chuck Norris.

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

The Colts had injury problems this year. We get it. Are the Colts going to take an ad out during the SB to point out that is why they are not there?FWIW to everyone else, Butch Stearns is not the most airtight source of information. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

Well, if the Colts were healthy, you wouldn't even be playing this game against the Patriots

This is probably true. If the Colts had been at full strength, with a healthy set of refs gifting them bad call after bad call, playing against a Chargers team without LT, Rivers, and Gates, the Colts might very well have won . . .

 

[pizzatyme]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

The Colts had injury problems this year. We get it. Are the Colts going to take an ad out during the SB to point out that is why they are not there?FWIW to everyone else, Butch Stearns is not the most airtight source of information. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

Well, if the Colts were healthy, you wouldn't even be playing this game against the Patriots

This is probably true. If the Colts had been at full strength, with a healthy set of refs gifting them bad call after bad call, playing against a Chargers team without LT, Rivers, and Gates, the Colts might very well have won . . .

Was this really that funny to you? Man, I bet you're a blast to be around.

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

The Colts had injury problems this year. We get it. Are the Colts going to take an ad out during the SB to point out that is why they are not there?FWIW to everyone else, Butch Stearns is not the most airtight source of information. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

Well, if the Colts were healthy, you wouldn't even be playing this game against the Patriots

This is probably true. If the Colts had been at full strength, with a healthy set of refs gifting them bad call after bad call, playing against a Chargers team without LT, Rivers, and Gates, the Colts might very well have won . . .

Was this really that funny to you? Man, I bet you're a blast to be around.

Absolutely you have been crying in every Charger related thread since your Colts lost. Get over it already.

 

[pizzatyme]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

The Colts had injury problems this year. We get it. Are the Colts going to take an ad out during the SB to point out that is why they are not there?FWIW to everyone else, Butch Stearns is not the most airtight source of information. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

Well, if the Colts were healthy, you wouldn't even be playing this game against the Patriots

This is probably true. If the Colts had been at full strength, with a healthy set of refs gifting them bad call after bad call, playing against a Chargers team without LT, Rivers, and Gates, the Colts might very well have won . . .

Was this really that funny to you? Man, I bet you're a blast to be around.

Absolutely you have been crying in every Charger related thread since your Colts lost. Get over it already.

Karma smiles upon your QB, your team, and it's fans.I'll remember to send Philip get well wishes on his myspace site!

 

[discofan]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

The Colts had injury problems this year. We get it. Are the Colts going to take an ad out during the SB to point out that is why they are not there?FWIW to everyone else, Butch Stearns is not the most airtight source of information. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

Well, if the Colts were healthy, you wouldn't even be playing this game against the Patriots

This is probably true. If the Colts had been at full strength, with a healthy set of refs gifting them bad call after bad call, playing against a Chargers team without LT, Rivers, and Gates, the Colts might very well have won . . .

Was this really that funny to you? Man, I bet you're a blast to be around.

Absolutely you have been crying in every Charger related thread since your Colts lost. Get over it already.

Karma smiles upon your QB, your team, and it's fans.I'll remember to send Philip get well wishes on his myspace site!

This is getting downright pathetic.

 

[pizzatyme]

I would be very curious as to how this would look if the Chargers were fully healthy.

And if the Colts were fully healthy?

The Colts had injury problems this year. We get it. Are the Colts going to take an ad out during the SB to point out that is why they are not there?FWIW to everyone else, Butch Stearns is not the most airtight source of information. I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.

Well, if the Colts were healthy, you wouldn't even be playing this game against the Patriots

This is probably true. If the Colts had been at full strength, with a healthy set of refs gifting them bad call after bad call, playing against a Chargers team without LT, Rivers, and Gates, the Colts might very well have won . . .

Was this really that funny to you? Man, I bet you're a blast to be around.

Absolutely you have been crying in every Charger related thread since your Colts lost. Get over it already.

Karma smiles upon your QB, your team, and it's fans.I'll remember to send Philip get well wishes on his myspace site!

This is getting downright pathetic.

Rivers talks smack to Colts fans...Charger fans talk smack to Colts fans...Karma, my friend, karma.