Pick 1.1 worth ? (1 Viewer)

[wileytigers]

what is the first pick in the rookie draft worth, looking like Crabtree or Moreno?

a veteran top 10 RB or WR

straight up for a Colston or Jenning?

or

for gore or mjd or s jackson

what are your thoughts.

thanks

 

[Avery]

It's really impossible to say until we see where these guys go.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

i wouldnt be worried about the draft picks until after the NFL draft

 

[wolves#1]

Just from a value perspective, I think that you would be hard pressed to get any of those guys straight up for the 1.1. I believe that Colston has the lowest value of the guys you listed so maybe that is possible...it really depends how strongly the other team feels about Crab, Moreno, McCoy, Wells, etc.

 

[comfortably numb]

what is the first pick in the rookie draft worth, looking like Crabtree or Moreno?a veteran top 10 RB or WRstraight up for a Colston or Jenning?orfor gore or mjd or s jacksonwhat are your thoughts.thanks

I just traded 1.1/2.9 for Colston and 4.1516 team IDP Dynasty league PPR0.5RB1.0WR1.5TE

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Just from a value perspective, I think that you would be hard pressed to get any of those guys straight up for the 1.1. I believe that Colston has the lowest value of the guys you listed so maybe that is possible...it really depends how strongly the other team feels about Crab, Moreno, McCoy, Wells, etc.

Really? I think that by the time the draft rolls around that pick will be worth MORE than several of those guys listed.People in dynasty leagues loooooove their draft picks, and you can usually get superb value out of them.

 

[jwb]

Just from a value perspective, I think that you would be hard pressed to get any of those guys straight up for the 1.1. I believe that Colston has the lowest value of the guys you listed so maybe that is possible...it really depends how strongly the other team feels about Crab, Moreno, McCoy, Wells, etc.

Really? I think that by the time the draft rolls around that pick will be worth MORE than several of those guys listed.People in dynasty leagues loooooove their draft picks, and you can usually get superb value out of them.

This is true - draft picks get greatly overvalued. Yes, that's where you get ADP, etc. I can see that end of the argument.But MJD / Jax / Colston for the 1.1? To me, if everything breaks right, the 1.1 becomes one of those guys in FF terms. I mean, is the player at 1.1 going to be much better than Jax, Colston, or MJD?

I'd rather have the sure thing. I would trade the 1.1 for an MJD or a Colston every time.

 

[JohnnyU]

Just from a value perspective, I think that you would be hard pressed to get any of those guys straight up for the 1.1. I believe that Colston has the lowest value of the guys you listed so maybe that is possible...it really depends how strongly the other team feels about Crab, Moreno, McCoy, Wells, etc.

Really? I think that by the time the draft rolls around that pick will be worth MORE than several of those guys listed.People in dynasty leagues loooooove their draft picks, and you can usually get superb value out of them.

This is true - draft picks get greatly overvalued. Yes, that's where you get ADP, etc. I can see that end of the argument.But MJD / Jax / Colston for the 1.1? To me, if everything breaks right, the 1.1 becomes one of those guys in FF terms. I mean, is the player at 1.1 going to be much better than Jax, Colston, or MJD?

I'd rather have the sure thing. I would trade the 1.1 for an MJD or a Colston every time.

I would for MJD, but not for Colston. You can get a hell of lot more for that pick than Colston around draft time. I also wouldn't trade the pick for Jennings either. In the dynasty format the 1.01 is a lot more valuable than you make it out to be.

 

[jwb]

Just from a value perspective, I think that you would be hard pressed to get any of those guys straight up for the 1.1. I believe that Colston has the lowest value of the guys you listed so maybe that is possible...it really depends how strongly the other team feels about Crab, Moreno, McCoy, Wells, etc.

Really? I think that by the time the draft rolls around that pick will be worth MORE than several of those guys listed.People in dynasty leagues loooooove their draft picks, and you can usually get superb value out of them.

This is true - draft picks get greatly overvalued. Yes, that's where you get ADP, etc. I can see that end of the argument.But MJD / Jax / Colston for the 1.1? To me, if everything breaks right, the 1.1 becomes one of those guys in FF terms. I mean, is the player at 1.1 going to be much better than Jax, Colston, or MJD?

I'd rather have the sure thing. I would trade the 1.1 for an MJD or a Colston every time.

I would for MJD, but not for Colston. You can get a hell of lot more for that pick than Colston around draft time. I also wouldn't trade the pick for Jennings either. In the dynasty format the 1.01 is a lot more valuable than you make it out to be.

Yea, now that I think about it, Colston is iffy. If he didn't have the injury bug, perhaps. Ok, let's more say Fitz or AJ for a WR.

 

[JohnnyU]

Just from a value perspective, I think that you would be hard pressed to get any of those guys straight up for the 1.1. I believe that Colston has the lowest value of the guys you listed so maybe that is possible...it really depends how strongly the other team feels about Crab, Moreno, McCoy, Wells, etc.

Really? I think that by the time the draft rolls around that pick will be worth MORE than several of those guys listed.People in dynasty leagues loooooove their draft picks, and you can usually get superb value out of them.

This is true - draft picks get greatly overvalued. Yes, that's where you get ADP, etc. I can see that end of the argument.But MJD / Jax / Colston for the 1.1? To me, if everything breaks right, the 1.1 becomes one of those guys in FF terms. I mean, is the player at 1.1 going to be much better than Jax, Colston, or MJD?

I'd rather have the sure thing. I would trade the 1.1 for an MJD or a Colston every time.

I would for MJD, but not for Colston. You can get a hell of lot more for that pick than Colston around draft time. I also wouldn't trade the pick for Jennings either. In the dynasty format the 1.01 is a lot more valuable than you make it out to be.

Yea, now that I think about it, Colston is iffy. If he didn't have the injury bug, perhaps. Ok, let's more say Fitz or AJ for a WR.

In a PPR league I would definitely trade the 1.1 for Fitz or AJ, and I would probably do it in a non-PPR league as well in a year void of an ADP type of prospect. I think there's some good RBs in this draft, but no great ones.ETA: Even though I was a playoff team in Fantasy Legends II, I own the 1.01 and 1.02, so I have some big decisions coming up. That league is 0.5 PPR for WR and TE only.

 

[wolves#1]

I'm a believer in the sure thing especially since I see no ADP in this years draft class. Crab has a chance to be a stud, but I'm not sure I take the risk that he's not by giving up a proven commodity. I am of the belief that PPR Dynasty's are won with stud WR's...Jennings is a young one (Ranked top 10 in most listings that I've seen) and we know what he can do (16.5+ PPG this year), who he plays for, etc. Sitting today, no way I deal Jennings straight up for the 1.1. I'd have to get more coming back. The 3 RB's listed by the OP would be out of the question for me as well. Coston is the only one I would consider dealing for that pick.

So, to reverse the logic, if I have the 1.1, I give it happily for all those guys with Colston being the only question mark.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

The problem with sure things is that there's no such thing as a sure thing in fantasy football...

The problem with being "more proven" is that every year half of the most proven guys end up being major flops as well.

 

[wolves#1]

So are you saying right now (today), that if you had Gore, SJax, MJD or Jennings, you would deal them straight up for the 1.1?

There is a difference between what the holder of the pick might want in order to give it up and what others are willing to give.

I agree that "proven" and "sure thing" are not necessarily the best terms in FF, and maybe I value picks less than most, but no way I deal any of the guys above straight up for the 1.1 right now except maybe Colston.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

So are you saying right now (today), that if you had Gore, SJax, MJD or Jennings, you would deal them straight up for the 1.1?There is a difference between what the holder of the pick might want in order to give it up and what others are willing to give.I agree that "proven" and "sure thing" are not necessarily the best terms in FF, and maybe I value picks less than most, but no way I deal any of the guys above straight up for the 1.1 right now except maybe Colston.

I definitely wouldn't, in fact I'm trying to do the opposite right now. I know a lot of people will value some much more mediocre "proven" talent over the pick though.FWIW, three years ago every single player that finished in the top 5 this year was "unproven", whereas of the top 10 guys from that year (all of which were the most "proven" at that time), only one (Peyton) finished in the top 10 this year, and he finished 8th.It's worth thinking about, at least.

 

[Sanboy]

I was just offered the 1.1 pick today

( 2 qb, 2 rb , 4 wr , 2 te, 1 k , 1 d ) - 35 man roster - 12 teams

PPR and Td and Yardage scoring

L.Johnson and A.Boldin for 1.1

 

[wolves#1]

Not sure what your roster looks like but I value Boldin more than Jennings so using my logic above, I pass on this deal if I am you.

 

[Kleck]

wileytigers,

I hope you don't mind, but I just created a Dynasty Value of 1.01 Poll to help with this discussion.

 

[wileytigers]

no problem

 

[Sinrman]

My view on trading picks right now is DON'T do it. People are winding down from the fantasy season and many are starting to go into their "hibernation mode" and not paying much attention. If you wait until right before the draft, or better yet, right AFTER the draft, you'll get a lot more value...

 

[bcr8f]

i wouldnt be worried about the draft picks until after the NFL draft

There are leagues that draft after the combine, but I wouldn't trade it until e see who drafts who.

 

[wileytigers]

is an MJD/Gore type worth 1.1 and say Ronnie Brown

 

[Captain Spaulding]

is an MJD/Gore type worth 1.1 and say Ronnie Brown

Well if it helps...I play in a 14 team IDP dynasty league and am considering trading away Gore from my team to try and get the 1.01 (to get Crabtree).But at RB I still have D. Williams, FWP, R. Bush and Chris Johnson to juggle at starts (either start 1 or 2 RB's format) but at WR I have only R. White and B. Marshall that are worthy starters (in a start 2 thru 4 WR format) and then a bunch of journeymen WR's whom have limited upside. So you can see in my situation, dealing Gore for 1.01 would greatly benefit my team and starting lineup. The guy drafting at 1.01 in '09 also finished dead last in '08 and had the 1.01 taking McFadden. This owner may be gun-shy on the risk of the rookie draft and want a more secure thing at RB that Gore could provide (although his WR's are even worse than his RB's so he may want Crabtree at 1.01 all the same).