picking from the #5 spot (1 Viewer)

[kellumsboys]

just completed a mock and I love this spot.

everyone is loving the big 4 RBs, but I like Gore just as much.

even Turner if non-PPR.

this is a start 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex, D and k

#1 Frank Gore -RB

would consider Turner too if non-PPR

#2 Roddy White - WR

my plan was to go RB/RB/WR, but with Benson, Greene and Grant all still available I waited for RB

(Bress was here and tempting but decided to stick to my plan since he probably won't last this long in my real draft)

#3 Cedric Benson - RB

glad I waited because there was a big drop at WR here

#4 Sidney Rice -WR

lots of WR2 types here when others are starting TE run

#5 Mike Walker - WR

let them continue TE run while I get a 3rd startable WR

#6 Marion Barber - RB

a good #3 back who should perform about like last year

#7 Brett Favre - QB

Ryan, Palmer, Eli and Mcnabb were other options

#8 Carson Palmer - QB

TE was my plan but Palmer too good to pass up once Eli and Ryan gone

#9 Chris Cooley - TE

TE depth too good to go early and Zach Miller was still on the board also

#10 Kenny Britt - WR

a #1 WR here is a good backup

#11 Monterio Hardesy - RB

if he wins the job, great. worth a chance

#12 Bernard scott - RB

a must backup to Benson, almost took him last round

#13 Dallas Def

philly D went one pick before, but this will do

#14 - Donnie Avery - WR

another teams #1 WR. worth a shot. Anthony Dixon was also available as Gore's backup.

#15 - Rob Bironas K

 

[AtomicDogg97]

I am picking at the #5 spot as well and I agree, Gore is a no brainer at 5. The real question is what to do in round 2 where QB, RB, and WR are all possibilities.

 

[kellumsboys]

in the 2nd I passed over Brees in this mock because I knew he would be gone in my real league.

Manning was chosen the pick prior to mine . these are the only ones I would consider in 2nd.

White and Marshall seemed like the only stud WRs left and there were 4 RBs left on the board I liked.

by the time my round 4 pick got here, Romo, Brady and Schaub were gone also.

 

[dcgangstas]

At the 5th slot, I would definitely lean toward Frank Gore over Michael Turner, PPR league or not. He's far more involved in the passing game for the Niners than Turner is for the Falcons. The Niners also fortified their offensive line with the additions of Mike Iupati and Anthony Davis. Also in Gore's favor is that the NFC West is a far weaker division than the NFC South.

Take Gore in the 1st, and an stud WR (Austin, Roddy White, Brandon Marshall) in the 2nd. I'd expect a big-time run on WRs in that round.

 

[Skanker]

Turner the Burner is back. Don't underestimate him.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

I am considering taking Gore in round 1, and then some combination of a QB and WR in rounds 2 and 3. However, I am not sure what running backs would be available in round 4. I do not want to be stuck with a garbage RB2 using that strategy.

So where in the value in the middle of round 4????? Will there be decent RB's left at that point?

 

[kellumsboys]

I am considering taking Gore in round 1, and then some combination of a QB and WR in rounds 2 and 3. However, I am not sure what running backs would be available in round 4. I do not want to be stuck with a garbage RB2 using that strategy.So where in the value in the middle of round 4????? Will there be decent RB's left at that point?

some combination of these should be available in the 4th round.forte, best, moreno, forsett, addai, stewart and ronnie brownthat is why I wanted 2 RBs in first 3 rounds.

 

[TitanicHornet]

Gore is a given at 5, if not then Turner should suffice. I always like picking in the middle because you get the best feel for the draft. When WRs start running off the board, you're right there, when QBs start running off the board, there you are smack bang in the middle. You can choose to go with the flow or against it. I find I have the better balanced teams when I draft from the 5-6 spot, maybe its a mental thing.

 

[spon23]

Picking at 5 in a dynasty startup tomorrow. Gore is the consensus pick in redraft, what about dynasty?

 

[fightingillini]

Turner the Burner is back. Don't underestimate him.

I don't think anyone is....at least not me.But in a PPR, Gore is a no brainer over Turner. Turner likely will score 4 or 5 more TDs, but Gore should get you 45-55 receptions and should end up with more all purpose yards. With the lack of receptions, Turner is going to need to rush for 1600 yards and score 17+ TDs to likely pass Gore......not likely.In a non PPR, the decision is a little harder, but I think I still go with Gore.

 

[shims3]

No thought at all for Andre Johnson?

 

[greenline]

I am a little wary of Gore and that he doesn't seem like a guy in NON-PPR who will live up to his ADP. I feel like he made a nice bounce in TDs last year which really helped his value, but if he doesn't pound 10+ and chip in two or three more as a receiver, then he's not a mid-first round pick.

Also the 49ers were near the bottom of the NFL in rush attempts so I don't think this exactly a slam dunk pick. I prefer A. Johnson myself.

 

[saintsfan]

I have the 5th pick and Gore is a no brainer for me, also. In my league, I am hoping to grab a top 10 WR in the second, then if Romo is on the board in the 3rd, take him. IMO, Romo is the last QB I would take that early.

That should still leave me with decent options at RB and WR. I will wait on TE this year. If Romo is gone by pick 3, I'll either take another top 15 type receiver or my RB #2.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

Would you guys consider Schaub in round 3 or is that too early?

 

[ThePassion]

Has anyone considered nabbing Andre 3000 here?

 

[Resident A]

I'm planning on going Gore/Turner in the first, best WR in the 2nd, Benson/Grant in the 3rd. Best available after that.

I'd consider Romo in the 3rd if he made it, too early for Schaub with his injury history. I love Schaub but his price is too rich for my blood this year.

 

[dornado]

Non-PPR, and honestly, I've been leaning towards Michael Turner at #5 over Gore lately. Turner has essentially averaged a TD a game since taking over the duties in Atlanta... if you pull the games where he was hurt or missed significant time (comes to about 141 over 9 games for my league... or about 15.6 ppg), he compares favorably to a guy like Ray Rice. (I realize the same can be said for Gore, who scored well over 16ppg if you pull out that zero against the Vikings)

I think for a non-ppr my mindset thus far is that Turner is the safer pick than Gore, and while neither one offers you a guaranteed full season of work, Gore scares me more.

From there, I'm thinking RB/WR is a logical start... mid-2nd seems a bit high to take the RBs I project will be there when I pick (Benson, Matthews, et al). My fear is that I'll take Turner at #5 and the best WR on the board will be Roddy White... I'm certainly not opposed to drafting guys on the same team, but for my top two picks that makes me a little uneasy.

Edit to add: Any thoughts on Romo in the 2nd? I have been planning on waiting until the 6th or 7th to take a RB, but he may present the best value at #20 from a VBD perspective.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Non-PPR, and honestly, I've been leaning towards Michael Turner at #5 over Gore lately. Turner has essentially averaged a TD a game since taking over the duties in Atlanta... if you pull the games where he was hurt or missed significant time (comes to about 141 over 9 games for my league... or about 15.6 ppg), he compares favorably to a guy like Ray Rice. (I realize the same can be said for Gore, who scored well over 16ppg if you pull out that zero against the Vikings)

I think for a non-ppr my mindset thus far is that Turner is the safer pick than Gore, and while neither one offers you a guaranteed full season of work, Gore scares me more.

From there, I'm thinking RB/WR is a logical start... mid-2nd seems a bit high to take the RBs I project will be there when I pick (Benson, Matthews, et al). My fear is that I'll take Turner at #5 and the best WR on the board will be Roddy White... I'm certainly not opposed to drafting guys on the same team, but for my top two picks that makes me a little uneasy.

Edit to add: Any thoughts on Romo in the 2nd? I have been planning on waiting until the 6th or 7th to take a RB, but he may present the best value at #20 from a VBD perspective.

This keeps happening to me in the mocks I've done. I love White this year, but I'm not sure I'd like both of them either. As long as they both are getting theirs, I guess it doesn't matter. But a stinker from the entire offense or a bad matchup and your whole team suffers a little.

 

[ShortStackofPancakes]

Has anyone considered nabbing Andre 3000 here?

I've played around with it in my 12 team, 3 WR, 2RB, 1 Flex .5 ppr league, but I've really been liking the available WR options for me in the 2nd round. It seems one of Calvin, Roddy White, M. Austin, or Fitz are always there for me in the 2nd round, and I really like Gore + one of those guys better than AJ + the available RBs in the second round.

 

[ThePassion]

Has anyone considered nabbing Andre 3000 here?

I've played around with it in my 12 team, 3 WR, 2RB, 1 Flex .5 ppr league, but I've really been liking the available WR options for me in the 2nd round. It seems one of Calvin, Roddy White, M. Austin, or Fitz are always there for me in the 2nd round, and I really like Gore + one of those guys better than AJ + the available RBs in the second round.

Makes sense, I just started a few mocks with taking Andre... but I can see the WR value that is tempting at 2. I'll let you know if the mocks change anything.This also would make me lean towards Gore in hopes of White being there in the 2nd.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

Makes sense, I just started a few mocks with taking Andre... but I can see the WR value that is tempting at 2. I'll let you know if the mocks change anything.This also would make me lean towards Gore in hopes of White being there in the 2nd.

I am considering that scenario as well. Say you do land Gore and White, who would you target in round 3?

 

[AtomicDogg97]

Is there any chance Peyton Manning falls to the second round pick and is he a good value there?

 

[dornado]

Has anyone considered nabbing Andre 3000 here?

I've played around with it in my 12 team, 3 WR, 2RB, 1 Flex .5 ppr league, but I've really been liking the available WR options for me in the 2nd round. It seems one of Calvin, Roddy White, M. Austin, or Fitz are always there for me in the 2nd round, and I really like Gore + one of those guys better than AJ + the available RBs in the second round.

Makes sense, I just started a few mocks with taking Andre... but I can see the WR value that is tempting at 2. I'll let you know if the mocks change anything.This also would make me lean towards Gore in hopes of White being there in the 2nd.

I've considered taking Gore instead of Turner just because White is the best WR available when i pick in the 2nd, but ultimately I'm uncomfortable making my 1st round selection based on the possibility of what might happen in the 2nd. Gore may be the more productive player though, so I guess it isn't the end of the world either way.

 

[dornado]

Is there any chance Peyton Manning falls to the second round pick and is he a good value there?

I don't think Manning will fall to #20 in my 12 team league, but if he's there, I wouldn't hesitate to take him.

 

[ShortStackofPancakes]

Makes sense, I just started a few mocks with taking Andre... but I can see the WR value that is tempting at 2. I'll let you know if the mocks change anything.This also would make me lean towards Gore in hopes of White being there in the 2nd.

I am considering that scenario as well. Say you do land Gore and White, who would you target in round 3?

Obviously personal preference plays a big part, but in my .5 ppr flex in the 3rd round I'm looking for: J. Charles, P. Thomas (usually both gone) J. Best (alwaysl there), B. Marshall (usually gone), Steve Smith (this is about 10 picks before his ADP so usually I wait to see if he'll make it to me in the 4th, which he normally doesn't), JStew (always there), or Romo (usually not there). Typically I end up with Best or JStew, as I've usually been able to grab Crabtree or Steve Smith North in the 4th round, and I like either as a WR2 in a .5 ppr.

 

[gibfunk]

I've been tinkering around with a few scenarios, what about going AJ and Calvin in the first 2 rounds and PT Bruiser and Jahvid Best in 3 and 4? Thats a pretty formidable 4 if Best turns into the back we think he can be.

 

[SCT]

Makes sense, I just started a few mocks with taking Andre... but I can see the WR value that is tempting at 2. I'll let you know if the mocks change anything.This also would make me lean towards Gore in hopes of White being there in the 2nd.

I am considering that scenario as well. Say you do land Gore and White, who would you target in round 3?

Jamaal Charles, Ryan Matthews, Knowshon.

 

[ShortStackofPancakes]

I've been tinkering around with a few scenarios, what about going AJ and Calvin in the first 2 rounds and PT Bruiser and Jahvid Best in 3 and 4? Thats a pretty formidable 4 if Best turns into the back we think he can be.

I would love that scenario to play out, but it's a HUGE risk IMO to bank on PT and Best being there. Depends on what ADPs you're using but it seems PT is going right around 28 on average (and you're 3rd round pick is #29) and Best is going in the 30s on average.

 

[abe froman]

planning on going Gore, and then Marshall or White in second. 3rd may end up at RB again as Pierre may fall now with Betts signing and Addai, Grant may even be there.. Greene interests me but I wish I could grab him in 4th just not sure he'll last till then..

 

[JMon348]

Drafted from here last night, 12 team, non PPR

Andre Johnson

Larry Fitzgerald

Ryan Mathews

Dallas Clark

Beanie Wells

Jonathan Stewart

Donovan McNabb

Marion Barber

Vincent Jackson

Malcom Floyd

Dez Bryant

Ben Roethlisberger

Stephen Gostkowski

Toby Gerhart

Patriots D

 

[rjv]

I've been tinkering around with a few scenarios, what about going AJ and Calvin in the first 2 rounds and PT Bruiser and Jahvid Best in 3 and 4? Thats a pretty formidable 4 if Best turns into the back we think he can be.

Im in the 5th spot as well and in no way, in a PPR league,do you pass up on Gore. After Gore there is no RB that can match his play in a PPR league. AJ is great but White and or Marshall will do just fine. Think of it this way, If you pass on Gore and Take AJ, will you get a RB1 better or even close to Gore in the 2nd or 3rd??

 

[RICK ROMO]

What if Gore goes 4th and Rice slips to 5. Do you then take AJ or stick with Rice in a PPR?

 

[abe froman]

What if Gore goes 4th and Rice slips to 5. Do you then take AJ or stick with Rice in a PPR?

Shake the guys hand who takes Gore over Rice; draft Rice 5th in a PPR and take off your pants. Not happening most likely

 

[kutta]

I really like this spot - drafting from here in my primary league - non-PPR.

I am starting to lean to Turner over Gore. It just seems like Turner has more upside, as I could see him potentially scoring 20 TD's this year. I don't see any way Gore does that. Turner is very motivated this year, and supposedly showed up in great shape. I know it's all pre-season coach-speak, etc., but here are a few articles on Turner that helped turn the tide in his favor for me:

link 1

link 2

link 3

All are good reads and reinforce that Turner was out of shape last year and not ready for the season. He took the time off from injury and the off season to heal completely and get back into great shape. I can just see him really having a great year.

In the 2nd round I am targeting the best player available. I don't care if it is a RB, WR, or QB - same for the third. That is why I really like this position. Once you get that rock at RB, you aren't forced into anything else. It is a very flexible position this year and I'm willing to bet that people drafting in the 3-6 spots will have very strong teams.

 

[rjv]

What if Gore goes 4th and Rice slips to 5. Do you then take AJ or stick with Rice in a PPR?

Shake the guys hand who takes Gore over Rice; draft Rice 5th in a PPR and take off your pants. Not happening most likely

+1 Asking if you should take Rice instead of AJ really shouldn't be discussed if its a PPR league.

 

[shadyridr]

My plan:

Gore in the 1st

Pray that one of Austin or White slip to me in the 2nd

Then best available in the 3rd. For some reason Im not as optimistic one of these RBs would be available (Benson, Grant, Matthews, Charles, Thomas). If not then Romo may be an option or best WR although Im not too thrilled about this (I may reach for Crabtree)

 

[AtomicDogg97]

My plan:Gore in the 1stPray that one of Austin or White slip to me in the 2ndThen best available in the 3rd. For some reason Im not as optimistic one of these RBs would be available (Benson, Grant, Matthews, Charles, Thomas). If not then Romo may be an option or best WR although Im not too thrilled about this (I may reach for Crabtree)

Don't take Crabtree in round 3, he will be there in round 4.

 

[AtomicDogg97]

What players are you guys targeting in round 4???????????

 

[shredhead]

What players are you guys targeting in round 4???????????

Good ones! It kinda depends on who is available, and who I picked in rounds 1,2,and 3I'll be taking a hard look a Schaub if he's there, Brady and Romo too if they fall.If I need WR, I really like Crabtree at or about that ADP, Ochocinco to a slightly lesser extent. If I need RB, Stewart, Forte, Addai, Best, all are good options.If I want a top TE (doubtful in my scoring systems) Gates and Clark are good options.

 

[MillenHOF]

0.5 ppr 6 pt all tds, 12 teams. Thinking AJ/gore at 5. Leaning to AJ since when the picks come back you could cash in on either the last of the top tier wrs or pick up a rb that falls. I don't like the wrs at 4 vs rbs there are good. Thoughts on wr wr rb rb? Sample AJ, Roddy, Pierre Thomas, Addai or Best vs Gore, Roddy, Pierre, Ocho?

 

[mistabone]

Can any more folks draft from the 5 spot recently share there results?

 

[Gottabesweet]

I'm picking 5th in a point per YARD league it's a little different (5 qbs will go in the first)

I plan on grabbing Manning or Brady or Romo at 5

Then WR WR

 

[kutta]

12 team, non-PPR money league with the same owners for 13 years. I was in the five hole and talked up the MJD injury a little. The guy at 3 to Rice. The guy at 4 ALWAYS takes WRs early and took Andre, so I got MJD at 5. Here's my team:

QB: Tony Romo, Chad Henne

RB: Maurice Jones-Drew, DeAngelo Williams, Arian Foster, Leon Washington, Rashad Jennings

WR: Steve Smith, Malcom Floyd, Johnny Knox, Jabar Gaffney, Vincent Jackson

TE: Dallas Clark, Greg Olsen

PK: Nate Kaeding

TD: Chicago Bears

1. MJD

2. Williams

3. Romo

4. Dallas Clark

5. Steve Smith (Car.)

6. Foster

7. Floyd

8. Knox

9. Gaffney

etc.

 

[Pittsburgh United]

Picked 5th in my non-PPR 12-team redraft:

01.05 RB6 Michael Turner

02.08 QB4 Peyton Manning

03.05 WR9 Greg Jennings

04.08 WR14 Steve Smith (CAR)

05.05 WR17 Hines Ward

06.08 RB35 Ricky Williams

07.05 WR18 Terrell Owens

08.08 RB45 Thomas Jones

09.05 RB43 Darren McFadden

10.08 QB11 Kevin Kolb

11.05 TE10 Heath Miller

12.08 WR3 Mike Williams

13.05 RB69 Jerious Norwood

14.08 WR77 Golden Tate

15.05 PK2 Nate Kaeding

16.08 DEF6 Miami

QB: Peyton Manning, Kevin Kolb

RB: Michael Turner, Ricky Williams, Darren McFadden, Thomas Jones, Jerious Norwood

WR: Greg Jennings, Steve Smith (CAR), Hines Ward, Terrell Owens, Mike Williams, Golden Tate

TE: Heath Miller

K: Nate Kaeding

DEF: Miami

 

[davidwb]

12 team, non-PPR money league with the same owners for 13 years. I was in the five hole and talked up the MJD injury a little. The guy at 3 to Rice. The guy at 4 ALWAYS takes WRs early and took Andre, so I got MJD at 5. Here's my team:QB: Tony Romo, Chad HenneRB: Maurice Jones-Drew, DeAngelo Williams, Arian Foster, Leon Washington, Rashad JenningsWR: Steve Smith, Malcom Floyd, Johnny Knox, Jabar Gaffney, Vincent JacksonTE: Dallas Clark, Greg OlsenPK: Nate KaedingTD: Chicago Bears1. MJD2. Williams3. Romo4. Dallas Clark5. Steve Smith (Car.)6. Foster7. Floyd8. Knox9. Gaffneyetc.

Foster in the 6th round today? He seemed to be going earlier and earlier in the discussions centered on him -- moving up to the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I like this team a lot, but who else was available at RB in the 6th round if Foster were already gone (as he's likely to be)?

 

[Pittsburgh United]

12 team, non-PPR money league with the same owners for 13 years. I was in the five hole and talked up the MJD injury a little. The guy at 3 to Rice. The guy at 4 ALWAYS takes WRs early and took Andre, so I got MJD at 5. Here's my team:QB: Tony Romo, Chad HenneRB: Maurice Jones-Drew, DeAngelo Williams, Arian Foster, Leon Washington, Rashad JenningsWR: Steve Smith, Malcom Floyd, Johnny Knox, Jabar Gaffney, Vincent JacksonTE: Dallas Clark, Greg OlsenPK: Nate KaedingTD: Chicago Bears1. MJD2. Williams3. Romo4. Dallas Clark5. Steve Smith (Car.)6. Foster7. Floyd8. Knox9. Gaffneyetc.

Foster in the 6th round today? He seemed to be going earlier and earlier in the discussions centered on him -- moving up to the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I like this team a lot, but who else was available at RB in the 6th round if Foster were already gone (as he's likely to be)?

One guy in my league prides himself on being the "upside" guy. He took Foster at 5.03

 

[cjack]

Drafted yesterday from the 5 spot. This league is standard performance, no PPR, 6 points for all TDs, and it's 11 teams so keep that in mind. We require QB, 2 RBs, 2 WRs, 1 Flex (RB,WR, or TE) TE, K, DT/ST.

1 - F. Gore - Would have considered him even if MJD or Rice dropped to me. I just like his upside and his schedule on an improving team.

2 - R. Matthews - A little concerned about goal line touches, but I think they will come when his talents are on full display.

3 - J. Charles - Some risk here with T. Jones in the picture and the fact that it's KC, but he could be gold as my flex.

4 - P. Rivers - Top 6 QBs were gone and I didn't want to take a chance on Cutler or QBBC. I like him better than Romo, Schaub and maybe Brady.

5 - J. Finley - No real difference makers at WR left, so took a chance on Finley expecting big things out of GB (Gates was the only other TE off the board)

6 - M. Floyd - Should get plenty of targets and red zone looks as long as Jackson stays out of the picture.

7 - D. Bowe - I'm buying the pre-season hype and hoping he reminds us why everyone was so excited about him a couple of years ago.

8 - B. Berrian - With Rice gone and Harvin's issues, I'll take my chances with Berrian.

9 - D. Aromashodu - Hoping he can build off of last season's late season surge.

10 - D. McFadden - I"m sure he'll disappoint me again, but I've had him for the first two years, why not try once more.

11 - M. Williams (Tampa Bay version) - Tampa Bay's passing offense won't scare anyone, but this kid seems like he'll get his chances.

and so on...

 

[shredhead]

Can any more folks draft from the 5 spot recently share there results?

10 team non PPR QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/Flex/TE/K/D, 1pt/50yds pass, 1pt/20yds rush/rec1.Turner (Big 4 gone, non PPR, RB friendly scoring system) also considered Gore and AJ2.Miles Austin QB run let good top tier WR talent fall.3.Reggie Wayne - 4 of the 5 after me already had QBs I knew Romo or Schaub would fall to me.4. Matt Schaub - sure enough Romo went one pick before me5.Joseph Addai - I'm set at WR and QB, time to load up on mid round RBs6.Ronnie Brown RB2BC7.Arian Foster RB2BC8.Joe Flacco - solid backup/situational start9.Jets- Shiancoe went 1 pick before, I am the only one without a TE, might as well have a top D since I have a lower TE 10.Jeremy Maclin - I guess it's time to get high upside bye week fillers/possible flex players11.Bernard Berrian - Favre has to throw it to somebody.12.Donald Brown - Handcuff13. LT 14.Heath Miller - last one to get a TE, I'll take Miller. 2 teams already had backup TEs while I was scooping up value15. McGahee 16.Jacoby Jones17 Ferris Buehler18 Javon RingerI love this team. 8 RBs might be a little much. May have to offer McGahee to the Rice owner, or Ringer to the CJ owner, or LT to the Greene owner to upgrade at WR or TE.

 

[Fragis Frodum]

12 team non PPR, start 1 QB, 2 RB's, 2 WR's, 1 W/R, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Team D:

1. Gore

2. McCoy

3. Austin

4. Forte

5. Rivers

6. Nicks

7. Floyd

8. Portis

9. Aromashodu

10. D. Brown

11. S. Holmes

12. Philly D

13. M. Crosby

14. Laurent Robinson

15. Z. Miller (OAK)

 

[greenline]

NON PPR

Michael Turner

Reggie Wayne

DeSean Jackson

Jonathan Stewart

Ronnie Brown

Knowshon Moreno

Brent Celek

Jay Cutler

Terrell Owens

Stephen Gostkowski

Carnell Williams

Bernard Berrian

Jabar Gaffney

Donovan McNabb

Willis McGahee

Anthony Gonzalez

San Diego Defense