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Pink Floyd or Radiohead (1 Viewer)
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tommyboy
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CurlyNight
Footballguy
No contest! Pink Floyd hands down!
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Primus and Taylor Swift would both get my vote over Radiohead
A tough one for me would be Radiohead vs Arcade Fire since they're both awful and terribly overrated
A tough one for me would be Radiohead vs Arcade Fire since they're both awful and terribly overrated
DocHolliday
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Leroy Hoard
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Nigel Tufnel
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I picked Floyd too but I think this is a fair comparison. Radiohead is this (?) generation's Pink Floyd in the way that they embraced technology and used it to their advantage and, to some, detriment.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Next we go to an origami board and pole best left tackle of all time.
skycriesmary
Climbing up the Walls
B-Deep
Footballguy
Who was born in a house full of pain.
Who was trained not to spit in the fan.
Who was told what to do by the man.
Who was broken by trained personnel.
Who was fitted with collar and chain.
Who was given a pat on the back.
Who was breaking away from the pack.
Who was only a stranger at home.
Who was ground down in the end.
Who was found dead on the phone.
Who was dragged down by the stone.
Who was trained not to spit in the fan.
Who was told what to do by the man.
Who was broken by trained personnel.
Who was fitted with collar and chain.
Who was given a pat on the back.
Who was breaking away from the pack.
Who was only a stranger at home.
Who was ground down in the end.
Who was found dead on the phone.
Who was dragged down by the stone.
Insein
Footballguy
Same. I've been listening for weeks.A big thank you to this thread.
Radiohead fan silliness aside, Pink Floyd had inexplicably fallen off my playlists over the last few years. A steady diet of them has now returned to the rotation.
Thanks, all
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Jayrod
Footballguy
I'm 37 and I know infinitely more about Radiohead's music than Pink Floyd's. Therefore, I'm one of the those who voted for Radiohead.
For me, Radiohead opened up a new world of music. I went beyond Pearl Jam, AC/DC & RAtM into something...different. Rhythm, instrumentation and what a song actually is were blown wide open. And they were great. So many great songs that I love that a lot of you have probably never even heard of....You And Whose Army?, I Might Be Wrong, Exit Music, Everything In Its Right Place, Street Spirit...probably a couple dozen more that haven't been mentioned anywhere in this thread that I can listen to over and over and over. To me, they are the modern day Led Zepplin
Meanwhile, all I know about Pink Floyd is the songs that receive heavy radio play. And some of those are songs that I'll pass up when flipping through stations. I love Wish You Were Here and enjoy Money a lot, but sometimes they sound more like folk singers than a rock band.
Like some have said, it is probably more a generational thing, but I also don't think Radiohead will ever get the radio play that PF gets, so maybe they will never stand a chance in polls like this.
But those who say they aren't even close are likely my opposite and know too little of Radiohead to make a truly informed decision.
For me, Radiohead opened up a new world of music. I went beyond Pearl Jam, AC/DC & RAtM into something...different. Rhythm, instrumentation and what a song actually is were blown wide open. And they were great. So many great songs that I love that a lot of you have probably never even heard of....You And Whose Army?, I Might Be Wrong, Exit Music, Everything In Its Right Place, Street Spirit...probably a couple dozen more that haven't been mentioned anywhere in this thread that I can listen to over and over and over. To me, they are the modern day Led Zepplin
Meanwhile, all I know about Pink Floyd is the songs that receive heavy radio play. And some of those are songs that I'll pass up when flipping through stations. I love Wish You Were Here and enjoy Money a lot, but sometimes they sound more like folk singers than a rock band.
Like some have said, it is probably more a generational thing, but I also don't think Radiohead will ever get the radio play that PF gets, so maybe they will never stand a chance in polls like this.
But those who say they aren't even close are likely my opposite and know too little of Radiohead to make a truly informed decision.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
So you basically gave up on Animals shortly after Pigs on the Wing 1? At least give it an honest go, man.
grateful zed
Footballguy
ive heard good things about radio head but ive never listened to them.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Interesting post for several reasons.Jayrod said:
I think you underestimate how many Radiohead fans there are in here. They are always highly regarded when doing drafts or just talking about music. I would bet most here have heard the songs you are talking about and still voted for PF.
Also, you seem to be dismissing other's votes for doing the exact say thing you are doing with Floyd. You are basing your vote on the few Floyd songs that you have heard on the radio while basically claiming that people are voting for PF because they haven't bothered to dig a little deeper into Radiohead's catalog.
When you were describing yourself at the start, that is exactly where I was a few years ago. I am 39 now, and probably really digging into Floyd about 4 -5 years ago. It was mostly due to the movie drafts that we were doing. Albums like Animals were being talked about highly, songs I hadn't heard were popping up in the drafts, etc.. I had already been digging back into bands that it skipped over because of these drafts and discussions so I did the same with Floyd. Before that, I was like you described - listened to RH a ton. Had 40+ live bootlegs I constantly went through, saw them live, had all the B-sides, etc.. Only had heard the main radio songs from Floyd. I say without hesitation that Floyd wins this. Like I posted earlier, I think their 70s output is as good of a stretch of music that any band has put out ever, and that doesn't even count their few from the 60s that are great too.
No, they don't "rock" as hard as RH. They don't have a song like Just or other early RH rockers. BUT, for someone who seems to love all of Radiohead judging on the songs that you mention, I find it hard to believe that you couldn't listen to a few Floyd albums and appreciate the similarities - especially if you love songs like Street Spirit, Climbing Up the Walls, later Radiohead and the like. I think all the adjectives that people use to describe Radiohead apply to Floyd and vise versa: smart, experimental, ground breaking, good musicianship, blah, blah.
I don't see Radiohead as the Zeppelin of our era, they are probably closer to the Floyd of our era.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Otis
Footballguy
Seriously. LolZ at equating Animals to simon and Garfunkel. Poor guy, you are so so lost.
So you basically gave up on Animals shortly after Pigs on the Wing 1? At least give it an honest go, man.
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
Least you gave it a shot.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Would have been interesting to put age on the votes, but i don't think 80+% of us grew up in the 70s.
PIK95
Footballguy
Not many people like Pink more than me. I am forty and most of the records have special meanings to me. Animals is one of my favorites of all time. See Emily Play is heard in my house weekly. SOYCD was pretty much my theme song in college as I educated pledges. I think the LZ comparison is a good one for Radiohead. They are very underrated IMO, although I bet most of you would say they are overrated. That's how it was with LZ when I was a kid. I voted Radiohead.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
If I had to list my all-time 10 favorite albums, Floyd would have two (Dark Side and WYWH) in there, and maybe a third (The Wall).
Radiohead's In Rainbows would also be in there.
Radiohead's In Rainbows would also be in there.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
TripItUp
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Key word is might.
Tau837
Footballguy
This is way off IMO. Led Zeppelin was not critically acclaimed early on, but they were hugely popular from the start.PIK95 said:
Each of Led Zeppelin's 9 studio albums placed reached the top 10 in both the US and UK and 6 reached #1 on both charts. They released 4 live albums, in 1976, 1997, 2003, and 2012. 3 of those albums reached the top 10 in both the US and UK, and 2 of them reached #1 on one of those charts. Their greatest hits compilation album released in 2007 reached at least #7 in both charts.
In comparison, Radiohead has released 8 studio albums. 5 of them have reached the top 10 in both the US and UK, 2 of which reached #1 on both charts. They have released 1 live album, and it did not crack the top 20 on either chart. Their greatest hits compilation album reached #4 in the UK but only #26 in the US.
Let's pause for a moment to talk about some of those later release dates for Led Zeppelin.
In 2003, 34 years after their first album was released, they released a live album (How the West Was Won) of concert recordings from 1972 that reached the top 10 on both charts. It debuted on the Billboard 200 chart at number 1 and was certified gold and platinum by the RIAA within 3 weeks.
Also in 2003, they released Led Zeppelin DVD. It is the best selling music DVD of all time and is 13x Platinum in the US.
In 2007, 38 years after their first album was released, Led Zeppelin released a greatest hits compilation (Mothership) that reached the top 10 on both charts. It debuted at #7 on the Billboard 200 chart and has been certified 2x Platinum.
In 2012, 43 years after the release of their first album, Led Zeppelin released another live album (Celebration Day) of their tribute concert in 2007, so not even with John Bonham, and it also reached the top 10 on both charts.
Radiohead released their first album in 1993. Anyone think if they release live albums and/or a music DVD in 2027 and 2036, they will reach the top 10 on both charts and go platinum? How about if they release a new greatest hits compilation in 2031?
How about record sales? Led Zeppelin has sold 300 million, give or take based on the source, second in history only to the Beatles. Radiohead has sold 30 million. Led Zeppelin released their first album 24 years earlier than Radiohead, but does anyone really believe Radiohead's sales will come remotely close?
I don't know much about Radiohead's touring success, but I do know that Led Zeppelin is one of the most popular touring bands of all time, and is credited as being a driver in stadium rock.
I really don't see this comparison at all. It grossly overrates Radiohead.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I disagree with the Radiohead/LZ comparison, but I don't think he meant from a sales or popularity standpoint.
Tau837
Footballguy
That's how I took his underrated/overrated comment. He said he thought it was a good comparison, but it's a silly comparison IMO. Led Zeppelin is among the few best rock bands of all time. Radiohead isn't.
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skycriesmary
Climbing up the Walls
Really? Maybe not if you want to view them compared to other classic rock bands, but if you want to compare them to the best bands over the last twenty five years, they're in the conversation for top three. Name a more influential band since the early 90's?That's how I took his underrated/overrated comment. He said he thought it was a good comparison, but it's a silly comparison IMO. Led Zeppelin is among the few best rock bands of all time. Radiohead isn't.
This whole conversation is a bit of a joke though. Music is highly subjective, people get butt hurt when their favorite bands are dissed, or compared to another band they can't stand. Enjoy what you like, and move on.
PIK95
Footballguy
They are both top five all time for me. When I was a kid in the mid to late 80's in R.I. LZ didn't get the respect it deserved. It was even worse when the hair bands were big. The Wall hype was crazy when I was young fwiw. I'll never forget that. I did and still think LZ is the greatest band of all time BTW.That's how I took his underrated/overrated comment. He said he thought it was a good comparison, but it's a silly comparison IMO. Led Zeppelin is among the few best rock bands of all time. Radiohead isn't.
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Serious question. Exactly who is radiohead influencing??Really? Maybe not if you want to view them compared to other classic rock bands, but if you want to compare them to the best bands over the last twenty five years, they're in the conversation for top three. Name a more influential band since the early 90's?This whole conversation is a bit of a joke though. Music is highly subjective, people get butt hurt when their favorite bands are dissed, or compared to another band they can't stand. Enjoy what you like, and move on.That's how I took his underrated/overrated comment. He said he thought it was a good comparison, but it's a silly comparison IMO. Led Zeppelin is among the few best rock bands of all time. Radiohead isn't.
Can you say oh if it wasnt for radiohead we wouldnt have band x or band y??? I dont think so
Jayrod
Footballguy
Arcade Fire for one.Serious question. Exactly who is radiohead influencing??Can you say oh if it wasnt for radiohead we wouldnt have band x or band y??? I dont think soReally? Maybe not if you want to view them compared to other classic rock bands, but if you want to compare them to the best bands over the last twenty five years, they're in the conversation for top three. Name a more influential band since the early 90's?This whole conversation is a bit of a joke though. Music is highly subjective, people get butt hurt when their favorite bands are dissed, or compared to another band they can't stand. Enjoy what you like, and move on.That's how I took his underrated/overrated comment. He said he thought it was a good comparison, but it's a silly comparison IMO. Led Zeppelin is among the few best rock bands of all time. Radiohead isn't.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Broken Social Scene, Muse, M83, Coldplay, any band using electronic elements in their music.Arcade Fire for one.Serious question. Exactly who is radiohead influencing??Can you say oh if it wasnt for radiohead we wouldnt have band x or band y??? I dont think soReally? Maybe not if you want to view them compared to other classic rock bands, but if you want to compare them to the best bands over the last twenty five years, they're in the conversation for top three. Name a more influential band since the early 90's?This whole conversation is a bit of a joke though. Music is highly subjective, people get butt hurt when their favorite bands are dissed, or compared to another band they can't stand. Enjoy what you like, and move on.That's how I took his underrated/overrated comment. He said he thought it was a good comparison, but it's a silly comparison IMO. Led Zeppelin is among the few best rock bands of all time. Radiohead isn't.
Insein
Footballguy
Muse's Matt Bellamy was pretty adament about not being influenced by Radiohead but rather one of Thom Yorke's own influences Jeff Buckley. He never mentions them as one of his 5 most influential bands. They all seem to groan at the comparison as well and have almost moves they're music away from sounding like them with each new album.Broken Social Scene, Muse, M83, Coldplay, any band using electronic elements in their music.Arcade Fire for one.Serious question. Exactly who is radiohead influencing??Can you say oh if it wasnt for radiohead we wouldnt have band x or band y??? I dont think soReally? Maybe not if you want to view them compared to other classic rock bands, but if you want to compare them to the best bands over the last twenty five years, they're in the conversation for top three. Name a more influential band since the early 90's?This whole conversation is a bit of a joke though. Music is highly subjective, people get butt hurt when their favorite bands are dissed, or compared to another band they can't stand. Enjoy what you like, and move on.That's how I took his underrated/overrated comment. He said he thought it was a good comparison, but it's a silly comparison IMO. Led Zeppelin is among the few best rock bands of all time. Radiohead isn't.
Electronic elements are not exclusive to RH.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Nobody worth a damn. No wonder music sux now.Broken Social Scene, Muse, M83, Coldplay, any band using electronic elements in their music.Arcade Fire for one.Serious question. Exactly who is radiohead influencing??Can you say oh if it wasnt for radiohead we wouldnt have band x or band y??? I dont think soReally? Maybe not if you want to view them compared to other classic rock bands, but if you want to compare them to the best bands over the last twenty five years, they're in the conversation for top three. Name a more influential band since the early 90's?This whole conversation is a bit of a joke though. Music is highly subjective, people get butt hurt when their favorite bands are dissed, or compared to another band they can't stand. Enjoy what you like, and move on.That's how I took his underrated/overrated comment. He said he thought it was a good comparison, but it's a silly comparison IMO. Led Zeppelin is among the few best rock bands of all time. Radiohead isn't.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Muse is great, and I don't care what Matt Bellamy says...Radiohead is one of their influences. He sings in that same kind of whiney falsetto that Thom Yorke does. I think Bellamy probably downplays the influence because some used to call them a more hard-rcoking Radiohead knockoff (which was a stupid comparison, since musically Muse doesn't sound that much like Radiohead).
Back to Radiohead, they are definitely one of the first rock bands to successfully not only integrate electronica into their music, but to make it a core element.
Back to Radiohead, they are definitely one of the first rock bands to successfully not only integrate electronica into their music, but to make it a core element.
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Nobody worth a damn. No wonder music sux now.Broken Social Scene, Muse, M83, Coldplay, any band using electronic elements in their music.Arcade Fire for one.Serious question. Exactly who is radiohead influencing??Can you say oh if it wasnt for radiohead we wouldnt have band x or band y??? I dont think soReally? Maybe not if you want to view them compared to other classic rock bands, but if you want to compare them to the best bands over the last twenty five years, they're in the conversation for top three. Name a more influential band since the early 90's?This whole conversation is a bit of a joke though. Music is highly subjective, people get butt hurt when their favorite bands are dissed, or compared to another band they can't stand. Enjoy what you like, and move on.That's how I took his underrated/overrated comment. He said he thought it was a good comparison, but it's a silly comparison IMO. Led Zeppelin is among the few best rock bands of all time. Radiohead isn't.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
are they on classic rock radio? No. End of story!
Insein
Footballguy
Tau837
Footballguy
In the post you quoted, I said Led Zeppelin is among the best few bands of all time and Radiohead isn't. Even if they are among the best few bands of the past 25 years (not saying they are), that does not equate to being among the best few bands of all time.Really? Maybe not if you want to view them compared to other classic rock bands, but if you want to compare them to the best bands over the last twenty five years, they're in the conversation for top three. Name a more influential band since the early 90's?That's how I took his underrated/overrated comment. He said he thought it was a good comparison, but it's a silly comparison IMO. Led Zeppelin is among the few best rock bands of all time. Radiohead isn't.
This whole conversation is a bit of a joke though. Music is highly subjective, people get butt hurt when their favorite bands are dissed, or compared to another band they can't stand. Enjoy what you like, and move on.
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