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Player Spotlight: Ernest Wilford & Matt Jones (1 Viewer)

Jason Wood

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2006 Player Spotlight Series

Over the course of the offseason, we will be evaluating a multitude of players at every fantasy position. One such way we go about that is through the Player Spotlight series. Think of the Spotlights as a permanent record on some of the more intriguing players for the upcoming season. Each Spotlight will be featured in an article on the main website.

Thread Topic: Ernest Wilford & Matt Jones, WRs, Jacksonville Jaguars

Player Page Link: Ernest Wilford Player Page

Player Page Link: Matt Jones Player Page

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Before doing any projections here, why are the WR1 and WR3 lumped together here? Reggie Williams down?
Because wilford and jones are jax's top 2 returning wrs and past history has shown that reggie williams will not live up to expectations
 
Before doing any projections here, why are the WR1 and WR3 lumped together here? Reggie Williams down?
Because wilford and jones are jax's top 2 returning wrs and past history has shown that reggie williams will not live up to expectations
He's 23 and was drafted only two years ago in the first round.
 
What is keeping everyone from including Williams, and even Lewis if they choose, in their projections? What is the big deal?

 
What is keeping everyone from including Williams, and even Lewis if they choose, in their projections? What is the big deal?
Not a big deal, but its very odd they would list a #1 and #3 WR and exclude the #2 guy in a Player Spotlight.
 
What is keeping everyone from including Williams, and even Lewis if they choose, in their projections?  What is the big deal?
Not a big deal, but its very odd they would list a #1 and #3 WR and exclude the #2 guy in a Player Spotlight.
Hey, I do not disagree, just pointing out that we have yet to see any projections, with or without Williams/Lewis. No big deal either way to me, I do not have my projections up to post. But, I do enjoy seeing what others have to say and wish we could just post projections including, or not, Williams and Lewis.
 
Before doing any projections here, why are the WR1 and WR3 lumped together here? Reggie Williams down?
Because wilford and jones are jax's top 2 returning wrs and past history has shown that reggie williams will not live up to expectations
He's 23 and was drafted only two years ago in the first round.
and wilford was taken in the 4th round two years ago and yet he's been able to produce while williams hasn't.
 
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Before doing any projections here, why are the WR1 and WR3 lumped together here? Reggie Williams down?
Because wilford and jones are jax's top 2 returning wrs and past history has shown that reggie williams will not live up to expectations
He's 23 and was drafted only two years ago in the first round.
and wilford was taken in the 4th round two years ago and yet he's been able to produce while williams hasn't.
Wilford
2004 11 19 271 14.3 2 2005 16 41 681 16.6 7Willams
Code:
2004 12 27 268 9.9 1 0 0 0.0 0 2005 11 35 445 12.7 0 2 3 1.5 0
Williams has 2 more catches, Wilford has 250 more yards, and Wilford has 8 more TDs.While the TDs are obviously in favor of Wilford, I dont know that Id say Wilford has definitely produced while Williams hasnt, especially since Garrard seemed to lock on to Wilford last year, which was to be expected, given they were both backups who had been put into a starting role at around the same time.

 
Not much to see here, although Wilford has some value.

Wilford

65*******990*********6

Jones

52*******710*********4

Williams

47*******660*********5

 
Jones - 64/819/6

Wilford - 55/843/6

Williams - 42/534/3

i'm not a big Reggie fan. Wilford's improvement from year 1 to year 2 was much more promising.

 
It doesn't matter, but I'll say it anyway - why lump any WRs together from JAX when they aren't from other teams? What's the logic?

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The downside with these three is you never know how they'll perform in a given week. Be prepared for very inconsitent results with Jones, but at the end of the year, he'll have pretty nice stats for a 2nd year WR.

Jones 66-960-13

Williams 45-510-3

Wilford 45-685-6

 
The Jaguars lost Jimmy Smith to retirement this year after he had led the team in receiving for ten straight seasons. Smith's retirement seemingly came out of nowhere, and was announced well after the NFL Draft, and also after the high profile free agent WRs had been signed. That left the Jaguars with an inexperienced group of receivers that have 34 career starts between them. None of them have 1000 career receiving yards to their name, let alone 1000 in a single season.

It was initially believed that Ernest Wilford would be the new number one receiver as he had finished 2005 strongly and gained more yards than the rest of the possibles. But his lack of speed seems to be a stumbling block and he is said to be more suited to the slot. That leaves Matt Jones as the favorite to become the main target, and Reggie Williams is in line for the number two role.

Jones is 6' 6" and has excellent speed, but he is extremely raw with only one start to his name. The team likes his potential but it will probably take a year before we see what he can really do. Opportunity is important and Jones appears to have that right now.

Wilford's stock has fallen considerably in the last two months, and he is now not even certain to be the third option, although it seems likely. The Jaguars are not a threat to score a huge number of rushing TDs, so the bulk of their scoring is likely to come from the passing game.

Prediction

Jones

62 receptions 830 yards 8 TDs

Wilford

45 receptions 600 yards 6 TDs

 
Matt Jones has absolutely sick measurables. There is no better man in the NFL from a size/speed ratio. Not only is he tall, he's thicker than most tall wideouts. He obviously needs to learn how to use his size to his advantage and preseason should go a long way in show if he's been learning those skills.

I think he's in for a very solid season.

Jones:

69 receptions 925 yards 9 touchdowns

Wilford

50 receptions 600 yards 5 touchdowns

Williams

40 receptions 450 yards 3 touchdowns

 
I think that there is logic behind linking all the Jag WRs together becuase their potential production for 2006 is very similar. I see a bright future for Matt Jones, but am not convinved it begins this year.

I do not see increase for the passing offense of the Jags as projected by FBGs, but rather a decline. Youth and inexperience at all skill positions involving the passing games makes for radical swings from game to game.

I don't think there is value anywhere in the Jag passing game in a redraft league.

I think that Matt Jones leads for the season, but several different guys lead individual weeks.

Matt Jones 60 catches for 800 yards plus 12 runs for 90 yards and 7 total TDs. he might also pass for one or two TDs

Reggie Williams 50 catches for 650 yards and 4 TDs

Ernest Wilford 45 catches for 640 yards and 5 TDs

I am thankful to have two Arkansas leagues where Jones will go early leaving value elsewhere.

 
I'm a little surprised by all the people lowballing Jones on TDs. I mean, sure, I can see projecting him at 60 catches, but on 36 catches last year he managed 5 TDs, and he only started one game. Is there a better red-zone threat on the team than this giant WR? Fred Taylor doesn't score TDs anymore. Greg Jones is ok, but he's not going to score all the Jax TDs. Matt Jones should collect at least 9 TDs.

My stats:

75 catches, 1000 yards, 10 TDs

 
I think the thing that surprises me about these projections is the lack of Yards Per Catch for Jones.

Playing mainly out of the slot, he was limited to 12ypc last year, but now hes moving outside, and we'll see him getting downfield alot more often.

Id be surprised if he was under 14.

 
It doesn't matter, but I'll say it anyway - why lump any WRs together from JAX when they aren't from other teams? What's the logic?
Obviously it matters a great deal since most posters in this thread can't talk about much else. Anyway I think if I had to pick one it'd be Jones, but they are all waaay down my list since IMO Leftwich more or less sucks anyway.

But enough of all that, back to the real topic that matters here: I strongly suggest the orig post and overall thread be re-named to either include New Edge Reg the rocket scientist or just let each have their own thread. What up w/that???

 
Before doing any projections here, why are the WR1 and WR3 lumped together here? Reggie Williams down?
Because wilford and jones are jax's top 2 returning wrs and past history has shown that reggie williams will not live up to expectations
He's 23 and was drafted only two years ago in the first round.
and wilford was taken in the 4th round two years ago and yet he's been able to produce while williams hasn't.
Why do I have to bring up in every thread that Wilford is 27 and Williams is 23?
 
Before doing any projections here, why are the WR1 and WR3 lumped together here? Reggie Williams down?
Because wilford and jones are jax's top 2 returning wrs and past history has shown that reggie williams will not live up to expectations
He's 23 and was drafted only two years ago in the first round.
and wilford was taken in the 4th round two years ago and yet he's been able to produce while williams hasn't.
Why do I have to bring up in every thread that Wilford is 27 and Williams is 23?
Perhaps you should just explain why that matters.
 
It doesn't matter, but I'll say it anyway - why lump any WRs together from JAX when they aren't from other teams? What's the logic?

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The downside with these three is you never know how they'll perform in a given week. Be prepared for very inconsitent results with Jones, but at the end of the year, he'll have pretty nice stats for a 2nd year WR.

Jones 66-960-13

Williams 45-510-3

Wilford 45-685-6
Your projections would be good for somewhere between 7 - 12 overall for Wide Receivers. I think that is better than pretty nice. I really like Jones and own him in my most important league as my WR 3. I am hoping for somewhere near 900 yards and 7 or 8 TDs. If he scores 13 TDs I will be freaking ecstatic.

 
Jones and Wilford both have great size and make solid redzone options. Somebody needs to pick up the 900/6 that Jimmy vacated, don't they?. If Del Rio had his way, he'd probably run the ball down the other teams throat and let his stellar D take care of the rest. I just don't think he has the horses there, both on the OL and in the backfield. Taylor's tendency to get nicked up combined with the running game's inability to punch it on when close creates some interesting intrigue here. I believe Jones will emerge as Jax's #1 WR. His running ability combined with the potential to pass sweetens the pot even more plus he'll have another year of WR experience under his belt. After 7 TD's last year, Wilford's upside is more limited IMHO and considering they are both going in basically the same round, I'll be leaning towards Jones for sure. He presents great value in that you can land a multi dimensional player in round 9 that could be the #1 WR on his team at year end.

Jones--60 catches, 900 yards, 8 total TD's

Wilford--48 catches, 660 yards, 5 TD's

 
It doesn't matter, but I'll say it anyway - why lump any WRs together from JAX when they aren't from other teams? What's the logic?

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The downside with these three is you never know how they'll perform in a given week. Be prepared for very inconsitent results with Jones, but at the end of the year, he'll have pretty nice stats for a 2nd year WR.

Jones 66-960-13

Williams 45-510-3

Wilford 45-685-6
Your projections would be good for somewhere between 7 - 12 overall for Wide Receivers. I think that is better than pretty nice. I really like Jones and own him in my most important league as my WR 3. I am hoping for somewhere near 900 yards and 7 or 8 TDs. If he scores 13 TDs I will be freaking ecstatic.
I admit it, I'm biased, but if he plays 16 games with Leftwich, I see no reason he can't end up with those stats. If anything, I feel more confident in the TDs than the yardage. (again, assuming 16 games with Leftwich). You're right, that would put him in that range over the season. I might back down on the yardage, but I'll leave this as my high end projection.

 
Before doing any projections here, why are the WR1 and WR3 lumped together here? Reggie Williams down?
Because wilford and jones are jax's top 2 returning wrs and past history has shown that reggie williams will not live up to expectations
He's 23 and was drafted only two years ago in the first round.
Exactly. What past history? Give the kid a chance to develope. Everybody has so little patience these day. What it people wouldve cast of guys like Joe Horn and Chris Carter after their first 3 or 4 years in the league? Because their #s sucked too. WR has one of the toughest learning curves and some guys need 3 or 4 years to develope.
 
Before doing any projections here, why are the WR1 and WR3 lumped together here? Reggie Williams down?
Because wilford and jones are jax's top 2 returning wrs and past history has shown that reggie williams will not live up to expectations
He's 23 and was drafted only two years ago in the first round.
and wilford was taken in the 4th round two years ago and yet he's been able to produce while williams hasn't.
Wilford was 25 1/2 years old when he was drafted. Williams was barely 21 when he was drafted. There is a big difference in physical and mental maturity in a 25 1/2 year old and a 21 year old.
 
Before doing any projections here, why are the WR1 and WR3 lumped together here? Reggie Williams down?
Because wilford and jones are jax's top 2 returning wrs and past history has shown that reggie williams will not live up to expectations
He's 23 and was drafted only two years ago in the first round.
and wilford was taken in the 4th round two years ago and yet he's been able to produce while williams hasn't.
Why do I have to bring up in every thread that Wilford is 27 and Williams is 23?
Perhaps you should just explain why that matters.
How much more mature were you at 27 than you were at 23?
 
Before doing any projections here, why are the WR1 and WR3 lumped together here? Reggie Williams down?
Because wilford and jones are jax's top 2 returning wrs and past history has shown that reggie williams will not live up to expectations
He's 23 and was drafted only two years ago in the first round.
and wilford was taken in the 4th round two years ago and yet he's been able to produce while williams hasn't.
Why do I have to bring up in every thread that Wilford is 27 and Williams is 23?
Perhaps you should just explain why that matters.
How much more mature were you at 27 than you were at 23?
Physically stronger too. A persons bones dont solidify into full adult bone density until a person is 25 or 26. Anybody watch boxing? Remeber when Fernando Vargas fought Tito Trinidad? Trinidad was 28 and Vargas was 23 I believe and you could see in the ring who was a man and who was still a kid.
 
Before doing any projections here, why are the WR1 and WR3 lumped together here? Reggie Williams down?
Because wilford and jones are jax's top 2 returning wrs and past history has shown that reggie williams will not live up to expectations
He's 23 and was drafted only two years ago in the first round.
and wilford was taken in the 4th round two years ago and yet he's been able to produce while williams hasn't.
Wilford
2004 11 19 271 14.3 2 2005 16 41 681 16.6 7Willams
Code:
2004 12 27 268 9.9 1 0 0 0.0 0 2005 11 35 445 12.7 0 2 3 1.5 0
Williams has 2 more catches, Wilford has 250 more yards, and Wilford has 8 more TDs.While the TDs are obviously in favor of Wilford, I dont know that Id say Wilford has definitely produced while Williams hasnt, especially since Garrard seemed to lock on to Wilford last year, which was to be expected, given they were both backups who had been put into a starting role at around the same time.
classic case of statistical rationalization without watching any games. garrard might have locked on to wilford, but so did leftwich in the redzone... hence the 8-0 TD difference, which is as small of a difference as danny devito is smaller than arnold schwartz. also, leftwich doesn't hesitate to go to wilford in clutch situations with the game on the line... by contrast, lefty hesitates to throw to williams... period.
 
I'm a little surprised by all the people lowballing Jones on TDs. I mean, sure, I can see projecting him at 60 catches, but on 36 catches last year he managed 5 TDs, and he only started one game. Is there a better red-zone threat on the team than this giant WR? Fred Taylor doesn't score TDs anymore. Greg Jones is ok, but he's not going to score all the Jax TDs. Matt Jones should collect at least 9 TDs.

My stats:

75 catches, 1000 yards, 10 TDs
I agree... Chris Mortenson is looking like a fortune teller after pumping up jones pre-present-post draft. i think 75/1000/10 is reasonable, but i think 75 and 10 are the ceiling for reception total and TDs, while 1000 is a moderate estimate for yards
 
I see this group as almost a mirror image of the '95 Jags where they had a group of talented recievers, none of which emerged as a true threat. However, I do feel as if this group is much more talented, but some questions do still exist.

For the record, Matt Jones and Reggie Williams are split out wide for me, Ernest Wilford at the slot Cortez Hankton/Chad Owens splitting time at #4.

Matt Jones:

The most important thing here to note is that he will be the team's featured reciever. Though that does mean he'll be going up against the elite corners of the game it also signals the progress Jones has had in learning the position and puts him in line for significant targets. Secondly, the progress he achieved with Byron Leftwich, especially nearing the time of Leftwich's injury was significant and was indicative of the growing rapport between the two.

Statistical Analysis: Looking at past history gives Jones a very good outlook. Under Byron Leftwich and Jack Del Rio, and without a true #2, Jimmy Smith was good for 70+ receptions and 1000+ yards every year since 2002 (when McCardell left) if his stats from 2003 (drug suspension) is extrapolated. Surely I am not saying that Matt Jones is equally as talented as Jimmy Smith but some numbers cannot be denied. Every year since 2002, the #1 WR recieved >30% of the Jaguars' WR completions and cracked 40% once and 50% once. In short, Jones will benefit from the inconsistant play of Wilford and Williams and if, by continuation, he recieves above 30% (probably closer to 40%) of the WR completions, then he is in line for about 65-75 receptions, and because he is not Jimmy Smith, I'd be tempted to downgrade slightly. I'd set the caps at 60 and 75 receptions respectively and think he will fall somewhere in the middle, towards the lower end.

Abstract analysis: Jones is a freak physically which may reduce the learning curve and allow him flexibility in running sloppy routes, but he does require significant work in a few areas. What he needs to be able to do is to get consistant, clean breaks off the jam. While Jones does not have the greatest first step, he has superb acceleration and could really be a terror if he isnt stopped up by the jam. Since he will be facing better, and presumably more physical corners this season, he will have to get this down quickly- and it isnt that easy. Many speculate its his experience at QB (hesitation after the snap as opposed to WR's exploding off the line but I do think that with experience, he will have this down. His physical nature will most certainly help him, if he can push off and break the jam, he is a bona fide home run threat. Couple that with improved O-line depth (hopefully they can now field the best unit instead of the only unit) and Byron Leftwich and he becomes the key to the offense. Lots of responsibility for the sophmore but i feel as if he can handle it.

63 receptions, 880 yards and 9TD's ---> Call me bullish but he did average a TD every 7.1 catches last season (7.0 under leftwich). YPC is up but receptions will not approach 70 and will be spread much more.

Thanks to OZ for some corrections :thumbup:

Reggie Williams:

Ernest Wilford:

Keenan McCardell aside, the Jags' #2 WR has historically been not so productive. That changed last year when Wilford burst out of nowhere to become the team's leading red zone threat despite limited receptions and yardage. But it didnt start out that way. Reggie Williams seemed to be finding his groove in the jags offense when a head injury in week 7 sidelined him for the majority of the remaining season. This year, the two figure to split time at #2 but all indications are that Williams will recieve the majority of the time.

Statistical Analysis: First, let me explain why I think Reggie gets more time at #2 than wilford.

1.) Reggie Williams is simply a more consistant reciever. Out of the 10 games that each reciever played considerable time in, Reggie recorded more 3-reception (3) 4 reception (4) and the same # of 5-reception (1) games as Wilford. While this may strike you as insignificant, it hints to the fact that wilford often disappeared from games and, looking at the game stats this is confirmed. Wilford, aside from his torching the rams in week 8, wilford only had three games where he caught for more than 40 yards. Two games were against Houston and one against Tenessee. Sure, he may be superb in the red zone but really not the production you look for between the 20's as a #2. Williams, on the other hand, averaged around 44 yards a game. And was really quite consistant in doing so.

2.) The second reason is more of a negative to Wilford than a positive for Williams. Williams led the team in the reception/target ratio (56%) but Reggie also scored in the low-50%. The difference is in the drops. It was revealed by Football Scientist KC Joyner in an article that was Insider material but copied HERE. In short, Wilford led the NFL in drops vs. catchable passes. Subjective, indeed so. But it was a knock on him all season and no doubt JDR took note. Williams was nothing spectacular but did lead the team in the reception/target ratio and had the fewest drops last season of the 4 leading recievers.

Abstract Analysis:

Williams carved out a niche for himself as a fearless reciever that doesnt mind going over the middle and taking a hit. He is also a very good blocker downfield making him more valuable on an everydown basis compared to wilford. In fact, the only real downside to Reggie's history have been his injuries and his lack of TD's. But in all honesty, I think he is overlooked as a red-zone threat. He has great physical measurables and in his rookie campaign actually caught two 2-pt conversions and a TD that should have been called inbounds. Its just that there are better options on the team. Byron tends to lock on to recievers so that may have something to do with it. Another point of interest is that Williams was one of the players most adversely affected by Leftwich's injury.

Projections:

Its strange to see this situation but i guess its for the best. IMO Williams will be used as an everydown reciever while wilford will not. Its hard to see 3-WR sets when the Jags have made an investment in Marcedes Lewis and in Kyle Brady, who is a valuable cog to that run blocking scheme. We may see more 2-TE sets, cutting into Wilford's playing time. Nonetheless, in the red zone, Wilford will be called upon to perform and should be a threat again. With Marcedes Lewis abord, its hard to say he'll be the primary target, but I have a feeling he may surprise.

Reggie Williams: 52 catches, 700 yards, 3 TD's

Ernest Wilford: 40 catches, 575 yards, 5 TD's

Marcedes Lewis: 28 catches, 300 yards, 3 TD's

Now, according to this, Williams is not the better ADP pick unless its a PPR league. In which case, its a great value pick. In comparison to FBG, im down on Wilford, a little bullish with williams and dead on with lewis. Hope this all helps

 
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Hate to double post but to those who wanted to see the rest of my projections, they are above. Thanks to those who showed support.

 
Predicted

Jones

62 receptions 830 yards 8 TDs

Wilford

45 receptions 600 yards 6 TDs

Actual

Jones

41 receptions 643 yards 4 TDs (14 games, 4 starts)

Wilford

36 receptions 524 yards 2 TDs

Williams

52 receptions 616 yards 4 TDs

I was not close on these predictions. Matt Jones appears to have the most potential still, but the Jaguars lost Leftwich and Garrard throws the ball a lot less. The running game exceeded all expectations and Jones-Drew emerged. An injury to Matt Jones saw him miss two games and he was limited in others. The only good thing from my perspective was that all three were drafted earlier than I was prepared to take them. the Jaguars' passing game remains a work in progress.

The Jaguars lost Jimmy Smith to retirement this year after he had led the team in receiving for ten straight seasons. Smith's retirement seemingly came out of nowhere, and was announced well after the NFL Draft, and also after the high profile free agent WRs had been signed. That left the Jaguars with an inexperienced group of receivers that have 34 career starts between them. None of them have 1000 career receiving yards to their name, let alone 1000 in a single season.

It was initially believed that Ernest Wilford would be the new number one receiver as he had finished 2005 strongly and gained more yards than the rest of the possibles. But his lack of speed seems to be a stumbling block and he is said to be more suited to the slot. That leaves Matt Jones as the favorite to become the main target, and Reggie Williams is in line for the number two role.

Jones is 6' 6" and has excellent speed, but he is extremely raw with only one start to his name. The team likes his potential but it will probably take a year before we see what he can really do. Opportunity is important and Jones appears to have that right now.

Wilford's stock has fallen considerably in the last two months, and he is now not even certain to be the third option, although it seems likely. The Jaguars are not a threat to score a huge number of rushing TDs, so the bulk of their scoring is likely to come from the passing game.

Prediction

Jones

62 receptions 830 yards 8 TDs

Wilford

45 receptions 600 yards 6 TDs
 

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