Player Spotlight: Todd Heap (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

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Thread Topic: Todd Heap, TE, Baltimore Ravens

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[CA_7]

Assuming McNair lands in BAL I expect a career year and top 3 finish for Heap.

He has put with garbage QBs for years and produced when Kyle Boller finally became productive in the final 6 games of the regular season, Heap benefited and averaged almost 5/60/1 per game.

80/900/9

 

[lod2005]

95-1100-13 TD's

 

[Assani Fisher]

90-1200-12 TDs

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

assani, lod, care to elaborate on why heap is going to eclipse even antonio gates's career highs this year?

 

[radballs]

I don't see why the addition of McNair would necessarily help Heap's numbers. I think inexperienced or rookie QBs are more likely to lock in on their tight end. McNair's addition helps Mason and Clayton primarily imo. Just because Tennessee TEs had a lot of targets does not mean that it will translate to a different team's offensive scheme.

68 receptions, 775 receiving yards, 6 TDs

 

[mlball77]

68 receptions, 775 receiving yards, 6 TDs

Thats almost exactly what I have Heap projected for... and these numbers make more sense to me intuitively than do some of the previous projections in this thread. I like Heap and McNair... but I don't see them hooking up for 1000+ yds and double digit tds... not in Bal's offense.

 

[David Yudkin]

Assuming McNair lands in BAL I expect a career year and top 3 finish for Heap.

Heap has already ranked Top 3 three times.

 

[CA_7]

Assuming McNair lands in BAL I expect a career year and top 3 finish for Heap. 

Heap has already ranked Top 3 three times.

I never said he hasn't. There seems to be an abundance of TE talent now and if you look at the FBG staff rankings only 2 out of the 16 have him ranked as high as 3rd.

 

[Fantasy Strategist]

There is going to be quite a fight for the #2 TE this year behind Gates but I think Heap will be the guy. He should see 6-7 targets a game on average converting most of those into receptions. 80 isn't out of the question for 800 yards and I think he will get 10 TD's. The running game will be that much better with McNair keeping defenses honest and Clayton is only going to be better, we know what Mason can do. The defense will be healthy. Heap will have at least 2 HUGE weeks where he breaks 100 yds and gets a couple TD's. 80/800/10 will be enough for #2 this year.

 

[Bankerguy]

If healthy he is pretty reliable.

70

790

8

 

[sacked4loss]

There is going to be quite a fight for the #2 TE this year behind Gates but I think Heap will be the guy. He should see 6-7 targets a game on average converting most of those into receptions. 80 isn't out of the question for 800 yards and I think he will get 10 TD's. The running game will be that much better with McNair keeping defenses honest and Clayton is only going to be better, we know what Mason can do. The defense will be healthy. Heap will have at least 2 HUGE weeks where he breaks 100 yds and gets a couple TD's. 80/800/10 will be enough for #2 this year.

what makes everyone think gates is going to be #1. he might but he could have a drop off because of qb change.heap- 35 rec. 420 yards 6tds. only if he plays at least 14 games and has a qb upgrade.

 

[Fantasy Strategist]

There is going to be quite a fight for the #2 TE this year behind Gates but I think Heap will be the guy.  He should see 6-7 targets a game on average converting most of those into receptions.  80 isn't out of the question for 800 yards and I think he will get 10 TD's. The running game will be that much better with McNair keeping defenses honest and Clayton is only going to be better, we know what Mason can do.  The defense will be healthy.  Heap will have at least 2 HUGE weeks where he breaks 100 yds and gets a couple TD's.  80/800/10 will be enough for #2 this year.

what makes everyone think gates is going to be #1. he might but he could have a drop off because of qb change.heap- 35 rec. 420 yards 6tds. only if he plays at least 14 games and has a qb upgrade.

Gates is just that good...and he is only going to get better.

 

[nygiants56]

I don't see why the addition of McNair would necessarily help Heap's numbers. I think inexperienced or rookie QBs are more likely to lock in on their tight end. McNair's addition helps Mason and Clayton primarily imo. Just because Tennessee TEs had a lot of targets does not mean that it will translate to a different team's offensive scheme.

68 receptions, 775 receiving yards, 6 TDs

actually, it does, IMO..Wycheck was a favorite target of McNair..don't forget who the OC of the Ravens is: Jim Fassell..all you need to do is go back and look at his history to see he has a special place in his heart for his TE's -( see Shockey and Heap last year , among others)

 

[wannabee]

I don't see why the addition of McNair would necessarily help Heap's numbers. I think inexperienced or rookie QBs are more likely to lock in on their tight end. McNair's addition helps Mason and Clayton primarily imo. Just because Tennessee TEs had a lot of targets does not mean that it will translate to a different team's offensive scheme.

68 receptions, 775 receiving yards,  6 TDs

actually, it does, IMO..Wycheck was a favorite target of McNair..don't forget who the OC of the Ravens is: Jim Fassell..all you need to do is go back and look at his history to see he has a special place in his heart for his TE's -( see Shockey and Heap last year , among others)

Plus, I know this sounds inconceivable, but the Tenn TEs had over 200 targets last year, and over 100 targets the two years prior. BTW, the 210 targets for the Tenn TEs last year was 50% more targets than Gates had (140). Heap had 113 targets last year. If that number moves up to the 140 range, that is huge for Heap.So, yes it does matter.

All target info from: http://www.footballguys.com/05targetdetails.php

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Still no McNair Balitmore last I checked.

71 rec. 838 yards 6 TD

If McNair arrives in Balitmore, I will bump him up some (not 90+ though).

 

[JimmyD]

After Gates I see the next tier of TE being a big one with Heap/Shockey leading the way and Crumpler/Gonzalez/Witten/Cooley being real close and not much of a drop off.

Heap should improve on last years stats and maybe hit the double digits in TD's

75rec - 900yd - 9td (with upside being 10-12 TD)

Of all the TE's that could bump Gates from the #1 spot at the end of the year, its Heap.

1. Solid Defense

2. Solid Run game

3. Big part of passing game, nothing special at WR position which could have QB lean on Heap even more than last year.

4. Fassell understands the importance a top notch TE can have on the offense.

The QB situation needs to work itself out, but I'm under the impression that McNair will be there.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Since I have him lower than most, I'll add my thoughts.

I have him missing a few games this year with an injury. He's had health issues in the past, and I believe that he'll try to either play at less than 100% and/or miss a few games. I also expect him to lose some targets now that there are clearer options on the perimeter and two big horses are in the backfield in Mike Anderson and Lewis.

50-500-5 in 13 games.

That would have him as #12 TE last year.

If you want to check for yourself, check out the News Blogger on Heap and search the word "injury": Todd Heap News

 

[CommuterMan]

Since I have him lower than most, I'll add my thoughts.

I have him missing a few games this year with an injury. He's had health issues in the past, and I believe that he'll try to either play at less than 100% and/or miss a few games. I also expect him to lose some targets now that there are clearer options on the perimeter and two big horses are in the backfield in Mike Anderson and Lewis.

50-500-5 in 13 games.

That would have him as #12 TE last year.

If you want to check for yourself, check out the News Blogger on Heap and search the word "injury": Todd Heap News

Heap missed 10 games in 2004 due to an ankle sprain that was slow to heal. In the two prior years he played in all 16 games and last year he played in all 16 games. I don't see how you can lable him injury prone based on the one season out of the past four.Heap still remains a big red-zone target for the Ravens - whether it's a jump ball in the corner or quick slant across the middle of the field. Whether its McNair or Boller playing QB, Heap will definitely get his targets in the Ravens offensive scheme...

80 - 85 receptions

800 - 850 yards

10 - 12 TDs

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Since I have him lower than most, I'll add my thoughts.

I have him missing a few games this year with an injury. He's had health issues in the past, and I believe that he'll try to either play at less than 100% and/or miss a few games. I also expect him to lose some targets now that there are clearer options on the perimeter and two big horses are in the backfield in Mike Anderson and Lewis.

50-500-5 in 13 games.

That would have him as #12 TE last year.

If you want to check for yourself, check out the News Blogger on Heap and search the word "injury": Todd Heap News

Heap missed 10 games in 2004 due to an ankle sprain that was slow to heal. In the two prior years he played in all 16 games and last year he played in all 16 games. I don't see how you can lable him injury prone based on the one season out of the past four.Heap still remains a big red-zone target for the Ravens - whether it's a jump ball in the corner or quick slant across the middle of the field. Whether its McNair or Boller playing QB, Heap will definitely get his targets in the Ravens offensive scheme...

80 - 85 receptions

800 - 850 yards

10 - 12 TDs

He plays hurt and rushes back. He often doesn't play 100%. You cannot only look at games played as the metric to his health.Shockey plays similarly. Both want to be in and contribute, but rarely are they 100% healthy after Thanksgiving.

Given that he's had numerous injuries that could possibly flare back up, expecting him to miss 3 games is hardly a stretch.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Check out how many times Heap has been on the nicked list:

Todd Heap

 

[CommuterMan]

Since I have him lower than most, I'll add my thoughts.

I have him missing a few games this year with an injury.  He's had health issues in the past, and I believe that he'll try to either play at less than 100% and/or miss a few games.  I also expect him to lose some targets now that there are clearer options on the perimeter and two big horses are in the backfield in Mike Anderson and Lewis.

50-500-5 in 13 games.

That would have him as #12 TE last year.

If you want to check for yourself, check out the News Blogger on Heap and search the word "injury":  Todd Heap News

Heap missed 10 games in 2004 due to an ankle sprain that was slow to heal. In the two prior years he played in all 16 games and last year he played in all 16 games. I don't see how you can lable him injury prone based on the one season out of the past four.Heap still remains a big red-zone target for the Ravens - whether it's a jump ball in the corner or quick slant across the middle of the field. Whether its McNair or Boller playing QB, Heap will definitely get his targets in the Ravens offensive scheme...

80 - 85 receptions

800 - 850 yards

10 - 12 TDs

He plays hurt and rushes back. He often doesn't play 100%. You cannot only look at games played as the metric to his health.Shockey plays similarly. Both want to be in and contribute, but rarely are they 100% healthy after Thanksgiving.

Given that he's had numerous injuries that could possibly flare back up, expecting him to miss 3 games is hardly a stretch.

If that's the basis of your observation then you can use that for just about every player in the NFL after the 3rd week of the season. Look over injury reports and you will find plenty of players in all positions who get nicked-up over the course of the season. I would not use that against them unless a significant pattern has arisen. LT2 played several games last year with an injured ankle - should his projections be adjusted for missing a couple weeks as well?? Injuries happen - they are not planned for. To me Heap has no history of being an player to miss weeks of a season to injury, IMHO it is then misleading to build into any projection for him an injury that would limit his performance.

For some players, yes it makes sense but not here...

 

[David Yudkin]

Check out how many times Heap has been on the nicked list:

Todd Heap

Tom Brady has been on this list for literally 2 years straight. Does that really show anything?I'm not saying that Heap has not been banged up and that he doesn't deserve to be dropped down some because of injury risk. I'm just not sure being on the injury report is cause for alarm.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

We'll have to agree to disagree here regarding the injury bug and Heap.

I still stand by that he will see less targets now that Mason and Clayton are starting.

Clayton became the starter after Week 9.

Compare Weeks 1-9 (8 games) vs. 10-17 (8 games) last year:

Targets (1-9/10-17)

WRs (137/141)

TEs (85/69)

RBs (62/54)

So with Clayton and Mason at WR, there appears less opportunity for the TEs and RBs for the ball.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Check out how many times Heap has been on the nicked list:

Todd Heap

Tom Brady has been on this list for literally 2 years straight. Does that really show anything?I'm not saying that Heap has not been banged up and that he doesn't deserve to be dropped down some because of injury risk. I'm just not sure being on the injury report is cause for alarm.

The point of the list was to illustrate that he was banged up and not 100% despite having not missed a game.

 

[David Yudkin]

We'll have to agree to disagree here regarding the injury bug and Heap.

I still stand by that he will see less targets now that Mason and Clayton are starting.

Clayton became the starter after Week 9.

Compare Weeks 1-9 (8 games) vs. 10-17 (8 games) last year:

Targets (1-9/10-17)

WRs (137/141)

TEs (85/69)

RBs (62/54)

So with Clayton and Mason at WR, there appears less opportunity for the TEs and RBs for the ball.

To be clear, I am not disagreeing with you that there is some validity to discount Heap next year for potential health concerns.As for targets, numbers, and how the pie will be split up . . .

Last year in Weeks 1-9: Heap averaged 6.5 fantasy ppg

Last year in Weeks 10-17: Heap averaged 9.4 ppg (with fewer targets)

The bottom line (for me at least) is that we don't have much insight as to what to expect come September until we know who the QB will be.

As for an earlier comment about what could happen with the team running more with Lewis and Anderson in the fold, that's a tough one to gage as well. Heap ranked #3 even when Lewis had 2K rushing yards and the team led the league in rushing attempts. Maybe the landscape will change a lot this year, who knows?

 

[Big Score]

We'll have to agree to disagree here regarding the injury bug and Heap.

I still stand by that he will see less targets now that Mason and Clayton are starting.

Clayton became the starter after Week 9.

Compare Weeks 1-9 (8 games) vs. 10-17 (8 games) last year:

Targets (1-9/10-17)

WRs (137/141)

TEs (85/69)

RBs (62/54)

So with Clayton and Mason at WR, there appears less opportunity for the TEs and RBs for the ball.

To be clear, I am not disagreeing with you that there is some validity to discount Heap next year for potential health concerns.As for targets, numbers, and how the pie will be split up . . .

Last year in Weeks 1-9: Heap averaged 6.5 fantasy ppg

Last year in Weeks 10-17: Heap averaged 9.4 ppg (with fewer targets)

The bottom line (for me at least) is that we don't have much insight as to what to expect come September until we know who the QB will be.

As for an earlier comment about what could happen with the team running more with Lewis and Anderson in the fold, that's a tough one to gage as well. Heap ranked #3 even when Lewis had 2K rushing yards and the team led the league in rushing attempts. Maybe the landscape will change a lot this year, who knows?

Looking at what I've Bolded.We know the Ravens Offensive Gameplan utilizes Heap, so I'm not sure who the QB is will really matter.

Plus, even if there is a QB change to McNair, didn't he make Wychek a stud TE?

 

[David Yudkin]

Wycheck never ranked as high as Heap already has. But I think the concern is that McNair would utilize Mason more than he is now and would be a better QB for Clayton as well.

 

[Big Score]

Wycheck never ranked as high as Heap already has.

True, but I think that's more about Heap being a better TE, than Wychek was (although Wychek was pretty darn good in his day).

But I think the concern is that McNair would utilize Mason more than he is now and would be a better QB for Clayton as well.

McNair is no Peyton Manning. He'll run the offensive plays called into him and Heap is an integral part of that offense. I don't see Billick revamping his offense to where it excludes / hurts Heap's numbers.I figure Heap for 65 - 70 recptions (lets say 67) with ypc of 11.5.

= 770.5 yards with 6 TD's.

My guesstimate anyway.

 

[rzrback77]

In the recent past (02-05) Todd Heap has played sixteen games in three out of four years. In those three years, he has had 121, 112, and 113 targets. I don't see that large of an increase this season.

Let's say 120 targets, about 7 or 8 per game. Surely, whether McNair goes to Baltimore or not, the QB play will be slightly better and he will increase his percentage of receptions. He has 68, 57, and 75 in those same three seasons, so I see 77 for this year. His yards per catch has been slightly decreasing 12.3, 12.2, and 11.4. We'll give him a slight uptick (again for the QB improvement) and say 12.0.

His TDs have gone 6, 3, and 7. Baltimore's offense has struggled mightily and I see no significant improvement, so we'll stretch it to 7 and say he matches his recent high.

77 catches for 924 yards and 7 TDs. In PPR leagues, that would give him 211 which was good for second last year. Gates had 267 though. If you don't trust Rivers, you can probably grab Todd Heap a couple of rounds later and maximize your value.

 

[-OZ-]

bump, cuz I'm about to trade for him.

I just gave Lendale White for him, greenway and a 2007 pick bump.

I see Heap as a top 5, probably top 3 - I just don't think his value jumps as much as some others do with McNair in town.

 

[mightyeskimo]

95-1100-13 TD's

Dude I so hope you're right!!

 

[CalBear]

McNair does not have a history of locking on to a TE as a target, especially in the red zone. The most yardage a McNair TE has ever had is 768 yards, and the most TDs from a McNair TE has been 4. Heap had 855 yards and 7 TDs in 2005, so for him to repeat those numbers, McNair would have to target him in a way that he [McNair] has never targeted a TE before. With McNair's former favorite WR on the team, and little time to learn a new system, I think you'll see a lot more Mason targets than Heap targets.

Heap is still a talented TE, but "the hand can't catch what the eye can't see." (Apologies to Ali).

I do expect Boller to start several games this year; the situation could easily wind up like Brunell to the Redskins or Garcia to the Browns, where a QB that wore out his welcome on his old team switched and wasn't able to regain his old form in the new system. It could easily devolve into full-blown QB controversy, and even without that, McNair has missed 12 games in the past three years, and had many other partial games due to injury. When Boller is in, targets will shift from Mason to Clayton and Heap.

Based on McNair at QB: 65 receptions, 775 yards, 5 TD. Good for approximately TE#6. The more Boller plays, the closer those numbers get to 2005.

 

[Bri]

bump, cuz I'm about to trade for him.

I just gave Lendale White for him, greenway and a 2007 pick bump.

I see Heap as a top 5, probably top 3 - I just don't think his value jumps as much as some others do with McNair in town.

IIRC He was #3 or #4 in quite a few leagues last year

 

[Two Deep]

62-625 7tds

 

[ravnzfan]

Since I have him lower than most, I'll add my thoughts.

I have him missing a few games this year with an injury.  He's had health issues in the past, and I believe that he'll try to either play at less than 100% and/or miss a few games.  I also expect him to lose some targets now that there are clearer options on the perimeter and two big horses are in the backfield in Mike Anderson and Lewis.

50-500-5 in 13 games.

That would have him as #12 TE last year.

If you want to check for yourself, check out the News Blogger on Heap and search the word "injury":  Todd Heap News

Jeff...I have a ton of respect for you, both as a business man and for most of your insight as a fellow FF'eron most things Ravens, however, your vision is seemingly tainted by the glasses you sport

let's discuss the recent Raven history @/the TE position, going back to 2000, 1 year after this system was put into place...not position total mind you, but the totals of the leading TE

Year....Player...games....totals

2000- SSharpe 16.....67-810-5***Pro Bowl

2001- SSharpe 16.....73-811-2***Pro Bowl

2002- THeap 16.......68-836-6***Pro Bowl

2003- THeap 16.......57-396-6***Pro Bowl

2004- THeap 6.......27-303-3

2005- THeap 16........75-855-7

a couple things become very clear to me:

1- the system under Billick is VERY TE friendly...it produced a Pro Bowler 4 straight seasons...some will argue Sharpe was Pro Bowl material prior to his arrival---very true, to the tune of 5 or 6

the system still produced a Pro Bowl player 2 seasons in a row after his departure

2- Heap, despite the 10 games missed due to nagging ankle injury in '04, was still the leading TE...doubled( ie 12 games), the numbers would have been:

54-606-6

for the year, which is higher than your projections for Heap

3- After all that, Heap's '05 was his personal best in receptions, yards and TD's...the great production from the TE position overall prevented his 3rd Pro Bowl in 4 years, but the numbers were certainly worthy

the guy has avg'd 11.9 YPC in his career on 240+ grabs, yet you see a 20% drop in this number...I can't disagree more

there has been 1 season where Heap did not play in all 16 games, (not including his '01 rookie season), when a couple nagging injuries kept him out of commision for 10 games...I fail to see the basis that has Heap available for only 13 games in '06

your link to the blogger mentions but 2 articles from '06, where the Ravens discuss possible 2-TE set...this would be to better utilize Heap in the passing game by splitting him outside and placing Wilcox as H-back and/or putting Clayton in the slot

in summary, there is absolutey no reason to downgrade Heap, and I'm careful not to over project him also...again, consider the history:

the Ravens are most comfortable pounding the football and playing defense...we'll see alot less 3-4, w/the base 4-3 as the most used scheme

I expect to see alot more balance in the Raven offensive splits...last season saw 560+ pass attempts, to 450 rushes (+110 pass-to-run ration, is way out of character for them)...this is completely unexceptable, and I see the last 10 '04 game avg of 32 1/2 attemps as the norm for this group

let's call it:

520 pass attempts

525 carries

these numbers would lead me to believe the Ravens are playing football more to their design...a welcome sight, after the last 22 regular season games

finally, for Heap this year...

67-787-6

as he fails to match his personal best in '04, seeking rather team success

 

[lod2005]

Gates is just that good...and he is only going to get better.

Gates no longer has a quality QB feeding him the ball. He is going to suck this year. Double and triple covered and a nobody throwing the ball. Lots more Tomlinson and a lot less Gates this year.

Bump up Heap now with McNair starting from the get go. 100-1350-14 TD's

 

[Big Score]

95-1100-13 TD's

100-1350-14 TD's

Which one is it, lod2005?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

95-1100-13 TD's  

100-1350-14 TD's 

Which one is it, lod2005?

So he can't change his projections? Both projections indicate lod2005 likes Heap in 2006! It's not hard to figure out lod increased Heap's numbers knowing McNair will be the Ravens QB.

 

[CalBear]

So he can't change his projections? Both projections indicate lod2005 likes Heap in 2006! It's not hard to figure out lod increased Heap's numbers knowing McNair will be the Ravens QB.

So he changed them from ridiculous to absurd? (No TE has ever had 1350 yards, or 14 TDs).

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

So he can't change his projections? Both projections indicate lod2005 likes Heap in 2006! It's not hard to figure out lod increased Heap's numbers knowing McNair will be the Ravens QB.

So he changed them from ridiculous to absurd? (No TE has ever had 1350 yards, or 14 TDs).

Who cares? He posted what he thinks Heap will do in 2006.

 

[-OZ-]

95-1100-13 TD's

100-1350-14 TD's

Which one is it, lod2005?

So he can't change his projections? Both projections indicate lod2005 likes Heap in 2006! It's not hard to figure out lod increased Heap's numbers knowing McNair will be the Ravens QB.

There's no problem with changing predictions, but I'm not quite sure how 5 more receptions = 250 more yards.

 

[Big Score]

So he can't change his projections? Both projections indicate lod2005 likes Heap in 2006! It's not hard to figure out lod increased Heap's numbers knowing McNair will be the Ravens QB.

So he changed them from ridiculous to absurd? (No TE has ever had 1350 yards, or 14 TDs).

Regardless of whether or not lod's predictions went from ridiculous to absurd, I doubt Fla\/\/ed's explanation is right.Once the Ravens worked out a contract with McNair, everyone & their brother knew McNair would be the Raven's QB for 2006.

lod's pretty active on these boards, so I doubt he managed to miss that, considering there have been umpteen dozen threads on the McNair / Titans / Ravens situation.

 

[Big Score]

You've also got to look at who is answering the question.

Is it lod2005 responding to the question asked of him?

Or is it Fla\/\/ed, our resident richard cranium, jumping in and answering for lod2005?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

You've also got to look at who is answering the question.

Is it lod2005 responding to the question asked of him?

Or is it Fla\/\/ed, our resident richard cranium, jumping in and answering for lod2005?

Once again with the personal attacks. I thought you had me on ignore?

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

95-1100-13 TD's 

100-1350-14 TD's 

Which one is it, lod2005?

So he can't change his projections? Both projections indicate lod2005 likes Heap in 2006! It's not hard to figure out lod increased Heap's numbers knowing McNair will be the Ravens QB.

There's no problem with changing predictions, but I'm not quite sure how 5 more receptions = 250 more yards.

5 50 yard receptions

 

[lod2005]

Yes. That is correct.

Now for a realistic projection. 80-1000-10 TD's is possible. If you look at my, sig I have Heap. I was just throwing out some ridiculous numbers.

You know.





However he will smoke Gates this year. The 2 have flipped places. Gates now has no QB and Heap has a QB that feeds the TE the ball.

 

[Big Score]

If you look at my, sig I have Heap. I was just throwing out some ridiculous numbers.

You know.

I hoped you were joking with those 1st two Heap projections lod.

Now for a realistic projection. 80-1000-10 TD's is possible.

Still pretty high, but definitely more realistic.

Oh!

And at Fla\/\/ed.

Maybe next time the he will let the person who was asked the question answer, instead of telling us what that person thinks.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

If you look at my, sig I have Heap. I was just throwing out some ridiculous numbers.

You know.

I hoped you were joking with those 1st two Heap projections lod.

Now for a realistic projection.  80-1000-10 TD's is possible.

Still pretty high, but definitely more realistic.Oh!

And at Fla\/\/ed.

Maybe next time the he will let the person who was asked the question answer, instead of telling us what that person thinks.

Really? You were the one that took the bait set by lod. I just called you out on it.Remember, I wasn't the one that asking which projection lod was going with.

Now, get back to "ignoring" me.

 

[the branded hand]

IMO, with the McNair to Mason connection intact again and Lewis/Anderson pounding the ball, Heap will have better matchups to exploit. It cannot be ignored that he is somewhat of a question mark in regards to his health, but with his conditioning this offseason and the arrival of McNair he has to be considered a great value in later rounds. Most are still wary.

I know that offesive systems will vary, but a QB who is coming from a team whose platoon of TE's took in 147 receptions, 1346 yards, and 8 TD's... targets, not necessarily production, are coming Heap's way.

"Air McNair" will probably give bigger chunks to his WR's with Heap seeing a lot of shorter yardage and goaline situations. I think in PPR leagues Heap's gonna make a lot of people really happy.

Projection: 86-795-9 Barring injury, of course... Heap or McNair!