Player Spotlight: Vincent Jackson (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

2007 Player Spotlight Series

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Thread Topic: Vincent Jackson, WR, San Diego Chargers

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[Jon_Moore]

He came on strong during the last four games of the season, averaging over 70 yards per game. At 6'5, he makes for a hell of a redzone target, Rivers showed the trust in him to throw it up top to him in the endzone and let him go get it. The playmakers around him may keep him from being a top wide receiver statistically. Gates should still be the first option in the passing game, and Tomlinson is going to be a TD hound as long as he's in the league.

56 catches

818 yards

7 tds

I'd say that's the middle. Floor can go lower, ceiling higher.

 

[LHUCKS]

70 receptions

1050 Yards

9 TDs

Plenty of opportunity and plenty of talent. This should be his coming out year.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I will add projections later in the week. For now I will just point out something about Jackson's catch percentage.

Jackson had the second-lowest catch percentage of all Chargers last year who had at least one catch:

Player T R %Michael Turner 3 3 100.0%Brandon Manumaleuna 17 14 82.4%Keenan McCardell 51 36 70.6%LaDainian Tomlinson 80 56 70.0%Eric Parker 70 48 68.6%Lorenzo Neal 26 17 65.4%Antonio Gates 19 71 59.7%Vincent Jackson 56 27 48.2%Malcom Floyd 32 15 46.9%Despite what it looks like based on those stats, Jackson really only dropped one ball during the regular season last year. (He dropped two more in the playoffs, and also failed to get his feet down for what should have been a catch.)For some reason -- probably coincidence -- it seemed like many of Rivers' bad throws last season happened when Jackson was targeted.

Rivers overthrew a wide-open Jackson in week 4 on what should have been a touchdown. Jackson was open and overthrown again in week 5 about 20 yards down the field.

I don't specifically recall each of the times Jackson was open and the pass was errant, but I remember thinking to myself throughout the season that while Jackson was only getting 10%-15% of the targets, he seemed to get about 40%-45% of the bad throws.

If Rivers spreads his misses around more evenly this year, Jackson's catch percentage should go up.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

64 receptions

960 yards

8 TDs

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The hype for this guy who at best is option #3 in the passing game is unreal. San Diego believed in him so much they drafted a WR in the 1st round.

50 receptions, 700 yds, and 5 TD.

 

[The Mechanic]

Between LT2 and Gates as the offence I don't see too much suprise form V.J.

40-550-4

 

[LHUCKS]

For those of you projecting 4 or 5 TDs, you do realize he had 6 last year in limited playing time?

Now he's the number one WR as opposed to the #3 and you're expecting a decrease?

 

[BassNBrew]

63 receptions

945 Yards

11 TDs

I think he makes strides as Rivers continues to improve.

 

[wolfie]

55-63 receptions

700-825 yards

7-8 tds

Can't see much more than those #s, with LT and Gates being 1A and 1B in that offense, unless you are looking for Rivers to throw for over 3800 yds and close to 30 tds. Not going to happen. Is a red zone target, so will get his share of tds.

 

[Tillmanisahero]

50/650/5tds

No longer a secret and will be covered my more talented DBs this year. His hype factor will push him much higher in drafts than his value

 

[JayMan]

For some reason -- probably coincidence -- it seemed like many of Rivers' bad throws last season happened when Jackson was targeted.

Not wanting to hijack...MT, I'm not a Chargers expert by any mean (and that's why I'm asking) - I don't get to see too many of their games... could the coincidence that you are talking about simply be bad route running and/or inability to separate on VJ's part causing Rviers passes to look poorly thrown?... just asking

 

[Banger]

I like VJax as an NFL receiver but not so much as a fantasy WR. Malcolm Floyd is pretty good, Parker is still around, they just drafted Davis at the end of the 1st and Gates/Tomlinson will still be the primary receivers. He will have big plays and is a good goal line option (but so are LT/Gates) but I just don't see him getting the # of receptions week to week to make him a good consistent fantasy play. His numbers will be feast or famine IMO.

55-825-6

 

[JAA]

The hype for this guy who at best is option #3 in the passing game is unreal. San Diego believed in him so much they drafted a WR in the 1st round.

Keenan doesnt have much time left.

 

[oukurt]

For those of you projecting 4 or 5 TDs, you do realize he had 6 last year in limited playing time? Now he's the number one WR as opposed to the #3 and you're expecting a decrease?

That makes too much sense. Lets not bring sensibility into the equation.70-900-8

 

[Banger]

The hype for this guy who at best is option #3 in the passing game is unreal. San Diego believed in him so much they drafted a WR in the 1st round.

Keenan doesnt have much time left.

he's gone...

 

[Holy Schneikes]

The hype for this guy who at best is option #3 in the passing game is unreal. San Diego believed in him so much they drafted a WR in the 1st round.

Keenan doesnt have much time left.

Keenan's been gone for a while. But you are right, they pretty much had to address the WR position in this draft, and it is not at all a reflection on Jackson's standing with the team.As for everyone's #3 comment, you CAN have three excellent fantasy peformers from the same team if that teams puts up a lot of points. San Diego does.LT is NOT a hinderance to Jackson. Yeah, he'll take away a lot of short yardage scores, but he'll also get Jackson in the rd zone a lot more than other receivers.

 

[KING]

i have alot of trouble seeing 70 catches from jackson. even if you consider him the #1 WR, that still makes him the #3 option. with parker still around, it's more like 1a, and 1b. when he catches more than 3 passes in a single game, i might be more impressed.

49 650 13.3 5

 

[shadyridr]

Alot of people think hes a sleeper and I might take a stab at him late but I just dont see it. Hes still fairly raw and there just are too many guys ahead of him in the pecking order for touches. Between LT, Gates, Turner, and even Parker how many more catches will Jackson get?

50 rec, 850 yds, 5 tds

 

[shadyridr]

For those of you projecting 4 or 5 TDs, you do realize he had 6 last year in limited playing time? Now he's the number one WR as opposed to the #3 and you're expecting a decrease?

I expect Gates' TDs to go up which will in turn hurt Jacksons TDs.

 

[Rev]

For those of you projecting 4 or 5 TDs, you do realize he had 6 last year in limited playing time? Now he's the number one WR as opposed to the #3 and you're expecting a decrease?

It all stems from an illness called "pissed-that-I-missed-the-VJ-bandwagon-itus"

 

[Jason Wood]

For those of you projecting 4 or 5 TDs, you do realize he had 6 last year in limited playing time? Now he's the number one WR as opposed to the #3 and you're expecting a decrease?

LHUCKS,I'm not saying you're wrong to be high on Vincent Jackson, but you've been around long enough to know that TD production, particularly for WRs, is hardly linear in either direction. It's flawed logic and an easy way to screw up your fantasy rankings to start playing, "WR had X in X touches, so he's bound to increase that to X this year."

 

[Rev]

For those of you projecting 4 or 5 TDs, you do realize he had 6 last year in limited playing time?

Now he's the number one WR as opposed to the #3 and you're expecting a decrease?

LHUCKS,I'm not saying you're wrong to be high on Vincent Jackson, but you've been around long enough to know that TD production, particularly for WRs, is hardly linear in either direction. It's flawed logic and an easy way to screw up your fantasy rankings to start playing, "WR had X in X touches, so he's bound to increase that to X this year."

I'd be interested in hearing some examples in which a player jumped from WR3 to WR1 in a stable system while showing no statistical improvement or actually declining in production. I'm not trying to be a sarcastic VJowner here, just asking about actual scenarios that would support such modest predictions.My view: VJ has been an athletic specimen and versitile football player since his college days, having both returned kicks and excelled at WR. For a reciever his size to have such speed and lateral quickness, his potential is limitless. Yet, since he's primarily proven himself as a redzone threat at the NFL level, he needs to continue working on his routes and body control after the catch. The Chargers like his ceiling enough to name him as their #1, and his stats should increase with another year of experience and a surge in targets:

71/925/9

 

[LHUCKS]

I'd be interested in hearing some examples in which a player jumped from WR3 to WR1 in a stable system while showing no statistical improvement or actually declining in production.

I'm interested as well.

 

[LHUCKS]

I'm not saying you're wrong to be high on Vincent Jackson, but you've been around long enough to know that TD production, particularly for WRs, is hardly linear in either direction. It's flawed logic and an easy way to screw up your fantasy rankings to start playing, "WR had X in X touches, so he's bound to increase that to X this year."

It's not linear, but it isn't bass ackwards either...I'll bet you a lot of money T.O. has more TDs than Eddie Kennison given they play the same amount of games. Some WRs are better TD threats than others.Jackson has a high TD ceiling for several reasons...I modestly project 9, but he could easily have 13. He's just as likely to have 13 as he is to have 5 IMHO, hence the 9 projection.

 

[Jason Wood]

I'd be interested in hearing some examples in which a player jumped from WR3 to WR1 in a stable system while showing no statistical improvement or actually declining in production.

I'm interested as well.

Who said he wouldn't improve? If healthy, of course Vincent Jackson is in line for substantive performance. But whereas yards and receptions are very likely to improve, it's a fallacy to presume that he's going to catch significantly more than 6 touchdowns.

 

[H.K.]

70 receptions1050 Yards9 TDsPlenty of opportunity and plenty of talent. This should be his coming out year.

That puts him at WR15-16 range for PPR leagues based on last years final totals. Pretty hefty projection for a guy who only has 64 targets in two years.

 

[LHUCKS]

70 receptions1050 Yards9 TDsPlenty of opportunity and plenty of talent. This should be his coming out year.

That puts him at WR15-16 range for PPR leagues based on last years final totals. Pretty hefty projection for a guy who only has 64 targets in two years.

I like the circumstances....fortunately for me I can draft him in the middle to late rounds due to various rankings by ff publications which will undoubtedly lower his ADP to my liking.

 

[Giggity]

I'd be interested in hearing some examples in which a player jumped from WR3 to WR1 in a stable system while showing no statistical improvement or actually declining in production.

I'm interested as well.

Who said he wouldn't improve? If healthy, of course Vincent Jackson is in line for substantive performance. But whereas yards and receptions are very likely to improve, it's a fallacy to presume that he's going to catch significantly more than 6 touchdowns.

Jackson is a hard one to project.Why did the Chargers draft a WR in the 1st round? You don't add depth in the 1st round. You draft starters. I can see them drafting 2-3 wrs in rounds 4-6. But a 1st?

Either they don't feel good about Parker or Jackson starting, and I'd assume Parker. But AJ Smith just doesn't like to waste picks/value. It seems very odd he took a WR in the 1st.

That just bugs me. I'd feel so much better if it was a 3rd-5th round WR. It just says to me, AJ Smith wants Davis to start. Is Parker really going to the slot? Two inexperience starters at WR?

Jackson should be in line for 70-900-8 but that 1st on Davis just does not sit well with me.

 

[LHUCKS]

I'd be interested in hearing some examples in which a player jumped from WR3 to WR1 in a stable system while showing no statistical improvement or actually declining in production.

I'm interested as well.

Who said he wouldn't improve? If healthy, of course Vincent Jackson is in line for substantive performance. But whereas yards and receptions are very likely to improve, it's a fallacy to presume that he's going to catch significantly more than 6 touchdowns.

Jackson is a hard one to project.Why did the Chargers draft a WR in the 1st round? You don't add depth in the 1st round. You draft starters. I can see them drafting 2-3 wrs in rounds 4-6. But a 1st?

Either they don't feel good about Parker or Jackson starting, and I'd assume Parker. But AJ Smith just doesn't like to waste picks/value. It seems very odd he took a WR in the 1st.

That just bugs me. I'd feel so much better if it was a 3rd-5th round WR. It just says to me, AJ Smith wants Davis to start. Is Parker really going to the slot? Two inexperience starters at WR?

Jackson should be in line for 70-900-8 but that 1st on Davis just does not sit well with me.

A lot of teams have two first round talent WRs, Davis could be more of a threat to Jackson's numbers in the future, but for now he's more of a threat to Parker who is better suited as a #3 IMHO. Floyd is in the mix as well.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

70 receptions1050 Yards9 TDsPlenty of opportunity and plenty of talent. This should be his coming out year.

That puts him at WR15-16 range for PPR leagues based on last years final totals. Pretty hefty projection for a guy who only has 64 targets in two years.

How did Reggie Wayne do in his first two years?Chad Johnson?Javon Walker?Steve Smith?Even Owens had a less than awe-inspiring first season.Those guys all had minimal 1st seasons, and just started to come on in the 2nd season. Jackson got started a little later in his second season than some of those guys, but other than that, his development is pretty typical for a guy who COULD become a great.Jackson was/is raw. Folks knew that. But he learned, got better. That's the way it works sometimes.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I like Jackson's immediate opportunity, but Im not sold on his ability to cash it in.

- Floyd and Gates are better targets in the red zone

- Parker and Davis are better on quick hitter and intermediate outside routes

- Gates is better over the middle

The one thing Jackson has is deep speed, but he's not the most dependable when it comes to finishing the play.

I know that he has been anointed the #1 WR, but isn't the #1 supposed to be dependable, and be able to consistently get open? In general, he doesn't look like a natural when it comes to catching the ball or running his routes. I don't see him developing into a "go-to" guy as some seem to be projecting. McCardell's targets are just as likely to go to Gates (Turner is playing with lining Gates up out wide and in the slot) and Davis (especially as we get deeper into the season) as they are to go to Jackson.

I can see him having 5 or 6 big weeks when he gets long TDs, then posting a lot of 2-35 or 3-40 in between. Deflate him for PPR leagues.

52 catches

800 yards

7 TDs

 

[Banger]

I'd be interested in hearing some examples in which a player jumped from WR3 to WR1 in a stable system while showing no statistical improvement or actually declining in production.

I'm interested as well.

Who said he wouldn't improve? If healthy, of course Vincent Jackson is in line for substantive performance. But whereas yards and receptions are very likely to improve, it's a fallacy to presume that he's going to catch significantly more than 6 touchdowns.

Jackson is a hard one to project.Why did the Chargers draft a WR in the 1st round? You don't add depth in the 1st round. You draft starters. I can see them drafting 2-3 wrs in rounds 4-6. But a 1st?

Either they don't feel good about Parker or Jackson starting, and I'd assume Parker. But AJ Smith just doesn't like to waste picks/value. It seems very odd he took a WR in the 1st.

That just bugs me. I'd feel so much better if it was a 3rd-5th round WR. It just says to me, AJ Smith wants Davis to start. Is Parker really going to the slot? Two inexperience starters at WR?

Jackson should be in line for 70-900-8 but that 1st on Davis just does not sit well with me.

Davis was picked to be a starter, no question about it. He's got good hands and very good speed and he will be the deep threat the Chargers haven't had. I'm sure the Chargers will bring him along slowly but from I've read so far they seem to like the kid. That being said I don't think it will necessarily impact VJax as much as it will Parker. Long term is another issue since his game has been compared to Wayne. Jackson will still be a good redzone target but like I said before he'll still need to compete with two of the best redzone targets in the game. Also, don't forget about Malcolm Floyd guys, he's a 2nd year player and like VJax is 6' 5" and is also a good redzone target. Prior to this year he's been very slight but apparently he's bulked up tremendously (his slight build was an issue) and a lot of the Charger boards were really high on his prospects and his mini-camp play. The Chargers also drafted a 6' 7" TE who's got very good hands that will probably make the team as well.

There's just a lot of good/very good targets on the Chargers offense and while I like Vjax's talent I'm just not sure if there will be enough footballs to go around.

 

[Despyzer]

55-63 receptions700-825 yards7-8 tdsCan't see much more than those #s, with LT and Gates being 1A and 1B in that offense, unless you are looking for Rivers to throw for over 3800 yds and close to 30 tds. Not going to happen.

So how is his situation this year different than McCardell's situation two years ago? LT and Gates were the top targets in the offense, and McCradell managed 70/917/9. Brees only threw for 3150 and 27 that year. Rivers actually threw for more yards and almost as many TDs last year.

 

[H.K.]

70 receptions

1050 Yards

9 TDs

Plenty of opportunity and plenty of talent. This should be his coming out year.

That puts him at WR15-16 range for PPR leagues based on last years final totals. Pretty hefty projection for a guy who only has 64 targets in two years.

How did Reggie Wayne do in his first two years?Chad Johnson?

Javon Walker?

Steve Smith?

Even Owens had a less than awe-inspiring first season.

Those guys all had minimal 1st seasons, and just started to come on in the 2nd season. Jackson got started a little later in his second season than some of those guys, but other than that, his development is pretty typical for a guy who COULD become a great.

Jackson was/is raw. Folks knew that. But he learned, got better. That's the way it works sometimes.

Don't disagree, but system begets opportunity in order for talent to blossom. Those WR's you mentioned had talent obviously, but benefited from systems that targeted WR's. Let's look at the league as a whole first:

Only 17 WR's in the NFL caught 70 or more passes in 2006. On average, those 17 WR's had a 59.3 completion/target ratio. Jackson would need 118 targets to catch 70 balls based on a 59.3 completion percentage.

Knowing what it takes to catch at least 70 balls as a WR, two things stand out in a big way with respect to VJax:

1) Completion Percentage: Jackson has a career target/reception ratio of 46.9%, he'll need to have a major upswing in this area even if his targets double from last season if he is going to catch 70 passes.

2) Targets: SD threw to WRs 211 times last season. Parker was the most targeted at 70 looks. Gates (100+ targets) and Tomlinson (80 targets) are the first and second options in the SD passing game.

Conclusion: There would have to be a monumental shift for Jackson to get the targets needed to catch 70 passes, and he would need a monumnetal increase in his reception percentage, as well.

 

[BassNBrew]

I'd be interested in hearing some examples in which a player jumped from WR3 to WR1 in a stable system while showing no statistical improvement or actually declining in production.

I'm interested as well.

Todd Pinkston.

 

[KING]

So how is his situation this year different than McCardell's situation two years ago? LT and Gates were the top targets in the offense, and McCradell managed 70/917/9. Brees only threw for 3150 and 27 that year. Rivers actually threw for more yards and almost as many TDs last year.

why are you even trying to compare jackson to mccardell?

861 receptions, over 11,000 yards, 5 seasons 80+ catches > 30 career passes caught over 2 seasons

maybe one day jackson will be that good, but not now

 

[Banger]

fyi...this was from the Chargers Camp report from 5/13...

SCOUTING REPORT: WR Malcom Floyd has gained 15 pounds in an effort to become not only more powerful but hopefully more durable. Floyd has the best hands on the team and is also among the team's fastest players. If he can stay healthy, he could emerge as a star. He is technically the Chargers' No.3 receiver, but he is a go-to option in the red zone as well as on deep routes. He will be an unrestricted free agent after this season, giving him even more motivation.

 

[LHUCKS]

why are you even trying to compare jackson to mccardell?

Because they both were/are #1 WRs in the same system.

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm not saying you're wrong to be high on Vincent Jackson, but you've been around long enough to know that TD production, particularly for WRs, is hardly linear in either direction. It's flawed logic and an easy way to screw up your fantasy rankings to start playing, "WR had X in X touches, so he's bound to increase that to X this year."

It's not linear, but it isn't bass ackwards either...I'll bet you a lot of money T.O. has more TDs than Eddie Kennison given they play the same amount of games. Some WRs are better TD threats than others.Jackson has a high TD ceiling for several reasons...I modestly project 9, but he could easily have 13. He's just as likely to have 13 as he is to have 5 IMHO, hence the 9 projection.

OK, so Jackson had 6 touchdowns in 27 receptions. As you might imagine, that's a pretty rare occurrence. In the last 20 years, only 7 receivers have notched 6+ TDs in a season while catching 30 or less passes:
Vincent Jackson 2006 -- 6 TDs in 27 receptions
Darnerian McCants 2003 -- 6 TDs in 27 receptions
Marc Boerigter 2002 -- 8 TDs in 20 receptions
Tony Jones 1990 -- 6 TDs in 30 receptions
Wesley Walker 1988 -- 7 TDs in 26 receptions
Lionel Manuel 1987 -- 6 TDs in 30 receptions
Daryl Turner 1987 -- 6 TDs in 14 receptionsThe following season:

Vincent Jackson 2007 -- TBD
Darnerian McCants 2004 -- 0 TDs
Marc Boerigter 2003 -- 0 TDs
Tony Jones 1991 -- 2 TDs
Wesley Walker 1989 -- 0 TDs
Lionel Manuel 1988 -- 4 TDs
Daryl Turner 1988 -- DNPHardly a sterling endorsement for Jackson's TD production in 2007.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

fyi...this was from the Chargers Camp report from 5/13...SCOUTING REPORT: WR Malcom Floyd has gained 15 pounds in an effort to become not only more powerful but hopefully more durable. Floyd has the best hands on the team and is also among the team's fastest players. If he can stay healthy, he could emerge as a star. He is technically the Chargers' No.3 receiver, but he is a go-to option in the red zone as well as on deep routes. He will be an unrestricted free agent after this season, giving him even more motivation.

When it came down to finishing a play with a smooth, sure-handed catch last year, Floyd looked better than Jackson - in fact I would say that Floyd looked like the WR the Chargers had hoped Jackson would become. Only problem is that Floyd can't stay healthy for a long stretch. Here's hoping the 15 pounds changes that.

 

[H.K.]

I'm not saying you're wrong to be high on Vincent Jackson, but you've been around long enough to know that TD production, particularly for WRs, is hardly linear in either direction. It's flawed logic and an easy way to screw up your fantasy rankings to start playing, "WR had X in X touches, so he's bound to increase that to X this year."

It's not linear, but it isn't bass ackwards either...I'll bet you a lot of money T.O. has more TDs than Eddie Kennison given they play the same amount of games. Some WRs are better TD threats than others.Jackson has a high TD ceiling for several reasons...I modestly project 9, but he could easily have 13. He's just as likely to have 13 as he is to have 5 IMHO, hence the 9 projection.

OK, so Jackson had 6 touchdowns in 27 receptions. As you might imagine, that's a pretty rare occurrence. In the last 20 years, only 7 receivers have notched 6+ TDs in a season while catching 30 or less passes:
Vincent Jackson 2006 -- 6 TDs in 27 receptions
Darnerian McCants 2003 -- 6 TDs in 27 receptions
Marc Boerigter 2002 -- 8 TDs in 20 receptions
Tony Jones 1990 -- 6 TDs in 30 receptions
Wesley Walker 1988 -- 7 TDs in 26 receptions
Lionel Manuel 1987 -- 6 TDs in 30 receptions
Daryl Turner 1987 -- 6 TDs in 14 receptionsThe following season:

Vincent Jackson 2007 -- TBD
Darnerian McCants 2004 -- 0 TDs
Marc Boerigter 2003 -- 0 TDs
Tony Jones 1991 -- 2 TDs
Wesley Walker 1989 -- 0 TDs
Lionel Manuel 1988 -- 4 TDs
Daryl Turner 1988 -- DNPHardly a sterling endorsement for Jackson's TD production in 2007.

Oh, and in before the "those guys weren't as good as VJax" parade..

 

[LHUCKS]

52 catches800 yards7 TDs

wow, just a little over 3 receptions per game huh?I think Davis or Floyd would really have to come on for his reception total to be that low.

 

[LHUCKS]

Oh, and in before the "those guys weren't as good as VJax" parade..

Thanks.A) How many were in an offense as good as SD's B) How many were drafted as high as Jackson?

 

[Banger]

fyi...this was from the Chargers Camp report from 5/13...SCOUTING REPORT: WR Malcom Floyd has gained 15 pounds in an effort to become not only more powerful but hopefully more durable. Floyd has the best hands on the team and is also among the team's fastest players. If he can stay healthy, he could emerge as a star. He is technically the Chargers' No.3 receiver, but he is a go-to option in the red zone as well as on deep routes. He will be an unrestricted free agent after this season, giving him even more motivation.

When it came down to finishing a play with a smooth, sure-handed catch last year, Floyd looked better than Jackson - in fact I would say that Floyd looked like the WR the Chargers had hoped Jackson would become. Only problem is that Floyd can't stay healthy for a long stretch. Here's hoping the 15 pounds changes that.

Agreed. An ankle injury ended his season about 2/3 the way through last year. Like I said, many of the Charger faithful are really high on this kid as well and mentioned that he looks like a different player with the amount of bulk he put on this offseason.There's just a lot of talent and a lot of options on the SD offense. Even if VJax is the "#1" wr it won't be like the #1 on probably any other team in the league.

 

[Two Deep]

68 -850 8 tds

 

[Jason Wood]

Oh, and in before the "those guys weren't as good as VJax" parade..

Thanks.A) How many were in an offense as good as SD's B) How many were drafted as high as Jackson?

Darnerian McCants was a 5th rounder, the Redskins offense was #22 in the NFL [points scored]Marc Boerigter was undrafted, the Chiefs offense was #1 in the NFL [points scored]Tony Jones was a 6th rounder, the Oilers offense was #2 in the NFL [points scored]Wesley Walker was a 2nd rounder, the Jets offense was #6 in the NFL [points scored]Lionel Manuel was a 7th rounder, the Giants offense was #22 in the NFL [points scored]Daryl Turner was a 2nd rounder, the Seahawks offense was #6 in the NFL [points scored]Not sure what round has to do with this, but two of the guys were also 2nd rounders and also part of top offenses. Two others were later round picks but part of top offenses.

 

[Jason Wood]

Another question...do we have confirmation that Vincent Jackson is #1?

I see via the Blogger a quote from A.J. Smith that he would get the chance to replace McCardell. That quote was from January. Since then, nothing, except Smith using a 1st rounder on another wideout and reports that Malcolm Floyd is healthy and 15 pounds heavier.

 

[H.K.]

Oh, and in before the "those guys weren't as good as VJax" parade..

Thanks.A) How many were in an offense as good as SD's

B) How many were drafted as high as Jackson?

A) Relevance? We are talking FF output for an individual. Just because the OL, LT and Gates make it a good offense doesn't mean it will be good for VJax FF wise. B) Do you really need a list of high draft pick busts at WR to show you how meaningless draft spot is for that position?

 

[LHUCKS]

Oh, and in before the "those guys weren't as good as VJax" parade..

Thanks.A) How many were in an offense as good as SD's

B) How many were drafted as high as Jackson?

Darnerian McCants was a 5th rounder, the Redskins offense was #22 in the NFL [points scored] Marc Boerigter was undrafted, the Chiefs offense was #1 in the NFL [points scored] Tony Jones was a 6th rounder, the Oilers offense was #2 in the NFL [points scored]

Wesley Walker was a 2nd rounder, the Jets offense was #6 in the NFL [points scored]

Lionel Manuel was a 7th rounder, the Giants offense was #22 in the NFL [points scored]

Daryl Turner was a 2nd rounder, the Seahawks offense was #6 in the NFL [points scored]

Not sure what round has to do with this, but two of the guys were also 2nd rounders and also part of top offenses. Two others were later round picks but part of top offenses.

So basically we're working with an extremely limited dataset(two) for players that fit under your criteria.

Not sure what round has to do with this, but two of the guys were also 2nd rounders and also part of top offenses.

You have a better chance at success in the NFL if you're drafted in a high round, which is why the NFL pays their first rounders more than second rounders, second rounders more than third rounders etc. etc.