Playmakers in the Passing Game (1 Viewer)

[Ilov80s]

These are the 4 core guys that each QB will have to lean on in the passing game, who has the best options?

Schaub: Andre, Foster, Walter, Daniels

Sanchez: Holmes, Keller, Mason, Plaxico

Stafford: Calvin, Best, Pettigrew, Burleson

Manning: Wayne, Clark, Garcon, Collie

Ryan: White, Julio, Gonzalez, Harry Douglas

Cassel: Bowe, Charles, Breaston, Moeaki

Romo: Miles, Dez, Witten, Felix

Vick: DeSean, Maclin, McCoy, Celek

Rodgers: Jennings, Finley, Jordy Nelson, Donald Driver

SF: Gore, Vernon, Crabtree, Braylon

Big Ben: Wallace, Ward, Miller, Sanders

 

[eaglesfan7]

You think James Jones gets more out of the passing game than Jordy Nelson?

 

[Ilov80s]

You think James Jones gets more out of the passing game than Jordy Nelson?

In reality, looking at the depth chart, Driver should probably still be ahead of both.

 

[Jayrod]

I'd go with Dallas....Dez, Austin & Witten are elite talents and Felix is more than adequate.

Also, it is "corps" as in marines, not "core" as in apple.

 

[eakfootball]

You think James Jones gets more out of the passing game than Jordy Nelson?

In reality, looking at the depth chart, Driver should probably still be ahead of both.

It's happened every season for the last couple years. Old guys like Driver, Hines Ward, Mason, and TO go very late/undrafted, and then put up top 25 numbers.

 

[eakfootball]

Really the only options should be Romo, Vick, Schaub, and Rodgers.

 

[higgins]

Romo, with Rivers a close 2nd (wasn't an option).

 

[Ilov80s]

I'd go with Dallas....Dez, Austin & Witten are elite talents and Felix is more than adequate.

Also, it is "corps" as in marines, not "core" as in apple.

http://www.google.com/search?q=core...;fp=c7fdc88fb98f24b1&biw=1645&bih=822Core: An important or unchanging group of people forming the central part of a larger body

http://www.google.com/search?q=core...;fp=c7fdc88fb98f24b1&biw=1645&bih=822

 

[Demian]

I'd go with Dallas....Dez, Austin & Witten are elite talents and Felix is more than adequate.

Also, it is "corps" as in marines, not "core" as in apple.

http://www.google.com/search?q=core...;fp=c7fdc88fb98f24b1&biw=1645&bih=822Core: An important or unchanging group of people forming the central part of a larger body

http://www.google.com/search?q=core...;fp=c7fdc88fb98f24b1&biw=1645&bih=822

This is gonna be good.

 

[glong989]

I'd go with Dallas....Dez, Austin & Witten are elite talents and Felix is more than adequate.

Also, it is "corps" as in marines, not "core" as in apple.

http://www.google.com/search?q=core...;fp=c7fdc88fb98f24b1&biw=1645&bih=822Core: An important or unchanging group of people forming the central part of a larger body

http://www.google.com/search?q=core...;fp=c7fdc88fb98f24b1&biw=1645&bih=822

This would be the correct term the OP was using. A RB is not included in the WR "corps". The OP is referring to the "core" of offensive passing weapons for each team meaning the main ones. Turner isn't listed for the Falcons because he only catches 15 balls a year while Foster caught a ton of balls so he is included.Either way, staying on topic you have to go with Romo. Two WRs who should have 1k yards this year and a top 3 of not higher TE who catches more balls than anyone and only has the shortcoming of not finding the end zone as much as some would think.

 

[JbizzleMan]

No mention of Rivers?

 

[gandalas]

Really the only options should be Romo, Vick, Schaub, and Rodgers.

For me it was between Romo and Manning.Manning has 3 elite receiving options (Clark, Wayne, and Collie), and one Above-average (Collie)Romo has 3 elite (Dez, Witten, and Austin), with one potentially elite receiving option (Jones).Vick has 3 elite (Jackson, Maclin, and McCoy), but one average (Celek not that great last year)Shaub has 2 elite (Johnson and Foster) with 1 potentially back to elite (Daniels), and one mediocre (Walter)Rodgers has 2 elite (Jennings and Finley), and a bunch of guys who are mediocre to good.Went with Romo, as I feel that Jones could become an elite RB receiver.

 

[shortbow]

I wasnt gonna say anything because I read your poll as "best cores belonging to these QBs" but your topic is titled "most talented core for 2011"Really?Sanchez?Stafford?Cassel? Niners QB?Roethlisberger?

Really the only options should be Romo, Vick, Schaub, and Rodgers.

For me it was between Romo and Manning.Manning has 3 elite receiving options (Clark, Wayne, and Collie), and one Above-average (Collie)Romo has 3 elite (Dez, Witten, and Austin), with one potentially elite receiving option (Jones).Vick has 3 elite (Jackson, Maclin, and McCoy), but one average (Celek not that great last year)Shaub has 2 elite (Johnson and Foster) with 1 potentially back to elite (Daniels), and one mediocre (Walter)Rodgers has 2 elite (Jennings and Finley), and a bunch of guys who are mediocre to good.Went with Romo, as I feel that Jones could become an elite RB receiver.

You listed collie twice as elite and above average, im assuming you meant garcon for one of those I disagree on both accounts either way. Only elite talents in Indi are Clark, Wayne and ManningDez isnt elite, yet, if Austin is elite hes near the bottom of that tier.Maclin and Jackson are both not elite WRs imo.

 

[Ilov80s]

Really the only options should be Romo, Vick, Schaub, and Rodgers.

For me it was between Romo and Manning.Manning has 3 elite receiving options (Clark, Wayne, and Collie), and one Above-average (Collie)Romo has 3 elite (Dez, Witten, and Austin), with one potentially elite receiving option (Jones).Vick has 3 elite (Jackson, Maclin, and McCoy), but one average (Celek not that great last year)Shaub has 2 elite (Johnson and Foster) with 1 potentially back to elite (Daniels), and one mediocre (Walter)Rodgers has 2 elite (Jennings and Finley), and a bunch of guys who are mediocre to good.Went with Romo, as I feel that Jones could become an elite RB receiver.

You're a lot more liberal with the term elite than I would ever be.

 

[Ilov80s]

No mention of Rivers?

Yeah, Rivers was an oversight, just missed him. However, considering Rivers had his best year ever despite Gates missing 6 games, VJax missing 11, Floyd missed 7 starts, Crayton missed 7 games, Legedu missed 7 games. The team leader in receptions was Darren Sproles. Beyond Jackson and Gates, I don't think there is really any great talent in the Chargers passing game. I just think Rivers is that good.

 

[shortbow]

No mention of Rivers?

Or Brady, or Bress.

 

[adrenaline]

I hate Dallas but they are the right answer here. A lot of QBs that shouldn't be mentioned here & agree Rivers should be in the poll.

 

[Ilov80s]

No mention of Rivers?

Or Brady, or Bress.

I don't think Welker, Branch, Gronkowski, and Hernandez is really that impressive. Colston, Graham Moore, and Meachem are all overrated individually IMO. They are good weapons because they are in the NO system with Brees at the helm.

 

[Ilov80s]

I hate Dallas but they are the right answer here. A lot of QBs that shouldn't be mentioned here & agree Rivers should be in the poll.

Which 2 or 3 QBs are the bottom of this list in terms of core receiving options?

 

[shortbow]

No mention of Rivers?

Or Brady, or Bress.

I don't think Welker, Branch, Gronkowski, and Hernandez is really that impressive. Colston, Graham Moore, and Meachem are all overrated individually IMO. They are good weapons because they are in the NO system with Brees at the helm.

All of the teams I listed in my first response are all worse cores than the pats or saints.Also, Welker, Ocho, Gronk, BJGE

 

[adrenaline]

I hate Dallas but they are the right answer here. A lot of QBs that shouldn't be mentioned here & agree Rivers should be in the poll.

Which 2 or 3 QBs are the bottom of this list in terms of core receiving options?

I no certain order I would say SF's, big Ben & Cassel are the bottom.

 

[gianmarco]

Also, while they won't win, I'd include the following over a few of the choices:

--Nicks, Manningham, Bradshaw, Beckum

--Sidney Rice, BMW, Z. Miller, and Lynch

 

[Ilov80s]

No mention of Rivers?

Or Brady, or Bress.

I don't think Welker, Branch, Gronkowski, and Hernandez is really that impressive. Colston, Graham Moore, and Meachem are all overrated individually IMO. They are good weapons because they are in the NO system with Brees at the helm.

All of the teams I listed in my first response are all worse cores than the pats or saints.Also, Welker, Ocho, Gronk, BJGE

BJGE only caught 12 passes last year, he isn't a big part of the passing game. Yeah, I guess Welker, Ocho, and the 2 TEs will be the top guys. Hard to say exactly.

 

[shortbow]

No mention of Rivers?

Or Brady, or Bress.

I don't think Welker, Branch, Gronkowski, and Hernandez is really that impressive. Colston, Graham Moore, and Meachem are all overrated individually IMO. They are good weapons because they are in the NO system with Brees at the helm.

All of the teams I listed in my first response are all worse cores than the pats or saints.Also, Welker, Ocho, Gronk, BJGE

BJGE only caught 12 passes last year, he isn't a big part of the passing game. Yeah, I guess Welker, Ocho, and the 2 TEs will be the top guys. Hard to say exactly.

I wasnt aware you were basing this off of passing relevance. I didnt read that anywhere.

 

[Defending Champs]

This whole thing is confusing.

 

[Ilov80s]

No mention of Rivers?

Or Brady, or Bress.

I don't think Welker, Branch, Gronkowski, and Hernandez is really that impressive. Colston, Graham Moore, and Meachem are all overrated individually IMO. They are good weapons because they are in the NO system with Brees at the helm.

All of the teams I listed in my first response are all worse cores than the pats or saints.Also, Welker, Ocho, Gronk, BJGE

BJGE only caught 12 passes last year, he isn't a big part of the passing game. Yeah, I guess Welker, Ocho, and the 2 TEs will be the top guys. Hard to say exactly.

I wasnt aware you were basing this off of passing relevance. I didnt read that anywhere.

The title of the thread is "Playmakers in the Passing Game" and the poll title and OP all mention weapons in the passing game.

 

[Defending Champs]

This whole thing is confusing.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I believe the answer is Romo 1a and Rivers 1b.

Romo has all the receiving weapons plus Felix who could be a huge weapon in the passing game. And Dallas doesn't have a fantastic goal line RB so it could mean more passing near the GL.

Rivers has a ridiculous group too. Tolbert is a solid GL guy though so that's why I'd put Rivers behind Romo.

 

[shortbow]

No mention of Rivers?

Or Brady, or Bress.

I don't think Welker, Branch, Gronkowski, and Hernandez is really that impressive. Colston, Graham Moore, and Meachem are all overrated individually IMO. They are good weapons because they are in the NO system with Brees at the helm.

All of the teams I listed in my first response are all worse cores than the pats or saints.Also, Welker, Ocho, Gronk, BJGE

BJGE only caught 12 passes last year, he isn't a big part of the passing game. Yeah, I guess Welker, Ocho, and the 2 TEs will be the top guys. Hard to say exactly.

I wasnt aware you were basing this off of passing relevance. I didnt read that anywhere.

The title of the thread is "Playmakers in the Passing Game" and the poll title and OP all mention weapons in the passing game.

That explains it entirely.

 

[Ilov80s]

No mention of Rivers?

Or Brady, or Bress.

I don't think Welker, Branch, Gronkowski, and Hernandez is really that impressive. Colston, Graham Moore, and Meachem are all overrated individually IMO. They are good weapons because they are in the NO system with Brees at the helm.

All of the teams I listed in my first response are all worse cores than the pats or saints.Also, Welker, Ocho, Gronk, BJGE

BJGE only caught 12 passes last year, he isn't a big part of the passing game. Yeah, I guess Welker, Ocho, and the 2 TEs will be the top guys. Hard to say exactly.

I wasnt aware you were basing this off of passing relevance. I didnt read that anywhere.

The title of the thread is "Playmakers in the Passing Game" and the poll title and OP all mention weapons in the passing game.

That explains it entirely.

Yeah, the thread is a bit of a mess and was based off an argue I had with a friend, I apparently didn't do a great job translating to the SP. However, if there was 1 thing I thought I was clear on, it was the part about the focus on the passing game.

 

[Ilov80s]

I believe the answer is Romo 1a and Rivers 1b.Romo has all the receiving weapons plus Felix who could be a huge weapon in the passing game. And Dallas doesn't have a fantastic goal line RB so it could mean more passing near the GL.Rivers has a ridiculous group too. Tolbert is a solid GL guy though so that's why I'd put Rivers behind Romo.

I am really surprised how many people think Rivers has such a strong group. I think they are middle of the road.

 

[uwftbl]

Has to be Rodgers. He can go two more deep with James Jones and Randall Cobb. Jones could have been WR1 if he for another team had he left Green Bay.

 

[Captain Fantastic]

Way too much confusion for what is a good and interesting topic (even outside the realm of fantasy...and I take the OP to be discussing this more in terms of "real football" then in fantasy terms).

The question has nothing to do with the QB and nothing to do with how many TDs or passing yards the QB will get. The question is about the guys catching the ball. More specifically, about the CORE of players who are catching the ball (which removes from the equation the "depth" of the WR corps - namely the quality guys on Green Bay's bench - but strictly the players who will be on the field 90% of the offensive plays).

In years past, this would have gone to the Rams in the Bruce/Holt/Faulk era or the Colts in the Harrison/Wayne/James era.

At least, this is how I interpret the OP.

For this year, I'd give the Cowboys the "best core" of receivers. Austin is legit Top 10 and Dez has arguably more talent (but hasn't proven it on the field). Witten is possibly the best TE in the game (certainly Top 5) and Felix is nice pass-catching back (no comment on his overall ability as an RB, just about use in the passing game).

There are a number of guys being tossed out that I don't understand at all. Rivers is a phenomenal talent, but we're not judging the QB. Jackson is solid (better than Austin? I'd call it close one way or the other), but Dez is clearly the better WR2 option. Gates vs Witten could go either way, and the edge is almost certainly to Felix as a pass-catching RB vs Matthews or Tolbert.

Again, nothing against SD's offense or fantasy potential, just talking about the receiving core. And FWIW, I'd use the same comparisons for Green Bay (and would give the edge again to the Cowboys).