Playoff rankings... (1 Viewer)

[unckeyherb]

I am commish of a 12 team 3 division league. We have it set up so that there are 6 playoff spots (3 divisional winners and 3 wildcards.) I have it set up so that the top two overall teams get a first round (week 14) bye-as such it is mathematically possible for two teams from the same division to get a bye. Then the rankings go down the remaining divisional winners, followed by the remaining wildcards.

The top ranked team plays the lowest ranked team, and the two middle teams play each other. I am getting flack because one of the guys thinks that the rankings after the two bye weeks teams should ALSO be based on overall record (meaning that the 3rd ranked team may be a WC winner and not a divisional winner).

How do all you 6-playoff team-leagues do your playoff rankings?

 

[footballnerd]

Round 1

#1 Bye

#4 vs #5

#2 Bye

#3 vs #6

Round 2

#1 vs Winner #4/5

#2 vs Winner #3/6

Round 3

Final

 

[unckeyherb]

Round 1

#1 Bye

#4 vs #5

#2 Bye

#3 vs #6

Round 2

#1 vs Winner #4/5

#2 vs Winner #3/6

Round 3

Final

Thats how we do it as well, I guess my question is: how do you determine each rank? Is it based solely on record? by division? Both?

 

[footballnerd]

Thats how we do it as well, I guess my question is: how do you determine each rank? Is it based solely on record? by division? Both?

I think you give the 3rd division winner the #3 ranking, then go by record. Otherwise why have 3 divisions winners. Then we get into the realm of the NFC West

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The 3 division winners (Seeds 1-3) and 3 wildcards (seeds 4-6) with the best head to head records will advance to the post season. The two division winners with the best HTH records will earn the top two seeds and first round byes. If 2 or more division winners (or 2 or more wildcards) have the same record the seeding will then be based on points (if still tied after points, seeding will be based on HTH, followed by highest single game score). Of the remaining four teams that do not have first round byes, the remaining division winner (#3 seed) will play the lowest seeded wildcard (#6 seed) and the other 2 wildcards (#4 and #5 seeds) will play in week 14 of the NFL regular season. The winners of those two games will then play the 2 bye week division winners with the lowest remaining seed playing the top division winner (#1 seed) in week 15 of the NFL regular season. The winners will then play in week 16 of the NFL regular season for the championship. The winner of that game will be crowned the league champion. The two losing teams from Week 15 will also play for the 3rd place prize in Week 16. In the playoffs each team will name an alternate player from their bench that will be used to break a tied score. If there is still a tie after the alternate player is used, then the highest seed will advance/win. If any teams are tied based on HTH record at the end of the regular fantasy season the following tiebreakers will be used to determine playoff eligibility (however the tie breaker for playoff seeding is based on points as stated above): Tie Breakers for Division Winner: 1. Head to head between the tied teams 3. Division record 4. Points 5. Highest single game score during regular season Tie Breakers for Wildcard Playoff Spotsoints Head to head between all the tied teams Highest single game score during regular season

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I am getting flack because one of the guys thinks that the rankings after the two bye weeks teams should ALSO be based on overall record

As you should. Either winning the division matters or it doesn't.

 

[unckeyherb]

I am getting flack because one of the guys thinks that the rankings after the two bye weeks teams should ALSO be based on overall record

As you should. Either winning the division matters or it doesn't.

I am saying that it does, otherwise, why have divisions? In essence the 3rd ranked team will always be on of the divisional winners.

 

[Novice2]

week 14

1rst and 2nd highest overall win % division winners bye

3rd highest win % division winner vs lowest win% wilcard team

lowst win % division winner vs highest win % wildcard team

..................................

week 15

highest overall win % division winner plays lowest advancing seed from week 14

2nd highest overall win % division winner vs highest advancing seed from week 14

................................................................................

....

 

[Novice2]

I am getting flack because one of the guys thinks that the rankings after the two bye weeks teams should ALSO be based on overall record

As you should. Either winning the division matters or it doesn't.

I am saying that it does, otherwise, why have divisions? In essence the 3rd ranked team will always be on of the divisional winners.

Divisions dont matter because the 2nd ranked team will not always be a division winner.

 

[Txns8]

20 teams, 2 10 team conferences. Top two in each division make playoffs. No byes.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I am getting flack because one of the guys thinks that the rankings after the two bye weeks teams should ALSO be based on overall record

As you should. Either winning the division matters or it doesn't.

I am saying that it does, otherwise, why have divisions? In essence the 3rd ranked team will always be on of the divisional winners.

The #2 seed should go to a division winner as well, if that's your philosophy. Pick a side (either winning the division matters, or it doesn't) and be consistent with it.

 

[GoRaiders]

Round 1

#1 Bye

#4 vs #5

#2 Bye

#3 vs #6

Round 2

#1 vs Winner #4/5

#2 vs Winner #3/6

Round 3

Final

Top 3 seeds are division winners. Seeds 4-6 are W/C. The only change I would make to the above, if Seed #6 wins, then they play Seed #1 in the next round. Top seed should always play the lowest seed that advances.

 

[GoRaiders]

I am getting flack because one of the guys thinks that the rankings after the two bye weeks teams should ALSO be based on overall record

As you should. Either winning the division matters or it doesn't.

I am saying that it does, otherwise, why have divisions? In essence the 3rd ranked team will always be on of the divisional winners.

Exactly, we mimic the NFL, and that is how they do it. Division winners get the top seeds before WC teams. Tell your league mates you are copying exactly how the NFL does it, end of story.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

I am getting flack because one of the guys thinks that the rankings after the two bye weeks teams should ALSO be based on overall record

As you should. Either winning the division matters or it doesn't.

I am saying that it does, otherwise, why have divisions? In essence the 3rd ranked team will always be on of the divisional winners.

Exactly, we mimic the NFL, and that is how they do it. Division winners get the top seeds before WC teams. Tell your league mates you are copying exactly how the NFL does it, end of story.

But he isn't:

I have it set up so that the top two overall teams get a first round (week 14) bye-as such it is mathematically possible for two teams from the same division to get a bye.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I am commish of a 12 team 3 division league. We have it set up so that there are 6 playoff spots (3 divisional winners and 3 wildcards.) I have it set up so that the top two overall teams get a first round (week 14) bye-as such it is mathematically possible for two teams from the same division to get a bye. Then the rankings go down the remaining divisional winners, followed by the remaining wildcards. The top ranked team plays the lowest ranked team, and the two middle teams play each other. I am getting flack because one of the guys thinks that the rankings after the two bye weeks teams should ALSO be based on overall record (meaning that the 3rd ranked team may be a WC winner and not a divisional winner). How do all you 6-playoff team-leagues do your playoff rankings?

i think he's right and that all seeding should be based on total pts not division winner, if that is what u are asking.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Round 1

#1 Bye

#4 vs #5

#2 Bye

#3 vs #6

Round 2

#1 vs Winner #4/5

#2 vs Winner #3/6

Round 3

Final

Thats how we do it as well, I guess my question is: how do you determine each rank? Is it based solely on record? by division? Both?

what's 'fair"? The randomness of H2h determines getting here. But seeding is ranking, and what more fair way to evaluate 6 teams vis a vis each other than the total pts scored? Especially since our game isn't like the nfl where teams 'run out the game'.

 

[Insein]

Its like someone said, either divisions matter or they don't. In my league, we have divisions just to make the schedule easier but otherwise its the top 6 teams that make it. Top 2 get the bye and the rest fall in line based on record and tiebreakers. They are reseeded after the first round so #1 plays lowest remaining and #2 plays the other team.