Playoff Tiebreaker (1 Viewer)

[oddsbodkins]

Welp, 169-169 thanks to that Hightower screen.

I have the highest scoring starter, most bench points, most total TDs and better record. I'm covered yes? There is no playoff tiebreaker on our league page and commish hasn't responded to my email yet...

 

[Quasimoto]

Welp, 169-169 thanks to that Hightower screen.

I have the highest scoring starter, most bench points, most total TDs and better record. I'm covered yes? There is no playoff tiebreaker on our league page and commish hasn't responded to my email yet...

First - You should use decimal scoring to make ties far less likely.

Second - There should be something in your scoring setup that makes bench points the tiebreaker.

 

[belljr]

Well....I'll save you the rant on how this wasn't accounted for.

Higher seed since you don't have one in place. Home field advantage

But normally we submit 2 players

Then td scored

Then bench points

 

[oddsbodkins]

Commish ruled higher seed advances. No drama.

I get to do this one more week!

PS - no clue why this league isn't fractional. Ridiculous.

 

[TZMarkie]

Commish ruled higher seed advances. No drama.

I get to do this one more week!

PS - no clue why this league isn't fractional. Ridiculous.

Probably the fairest way to go.

But two things.........

#1- INSIST - on fractional scoring next year, and if anyone argues then remind them of this scenario.

Like it or not, the other guy you just beat may not be too keen on this outcome. (even though I agree with the commish ruling)

#2 - DO NOT try to get "bench points" added in, contrary to what a few others here may mention.

If you ask everyone the overwhelming majority will opine against it. Thats what I have seen in the past though.

There are tons of examples and scenarios of bench points not working out for the better team, and recent injuries play a massive role in that as well.

Search the board here if you need further proof.

Oh and #3 - Congratulations. Hopefully you win that championship.

TZM

 

[oddsbodkins]

Bench points are dumb because you can just hold 2-3 QBs since our league doesn't have any limits on positions. Of course, I lost a game one year due to that very rule... fortunately it was a meaningless regular season game.

I think highest scoring starter is the most fair when not in a fractional league.

I just offered to buy the other owner lunch (offer accepted). Of all the ways to lose a game... it's easily the craziest finish I've ever seen in 30+ years in this hobby.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Should always just be seed. No muss no fuss.

-QG

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Bench points are not an option. In our league if a playoff game ends in a tie, we subtract high and low scorer from each team and proceed until the tie is broken - if it is still tied we go higher seed. I think just going higher seed is a better option.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Should always just be seed. No muss no fuss.

-QG

What do you do if you have divisions and both #1s tie in the finale?

This is when you use your bench, only in the title game. Otherwise its seed.

It goes highest bench player-vs- highest bench player. Continue through roster until tie is broken.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Should always just be seed. No muss no fuss.

-QG

OP undated in the MNF that was their rule he just didn't know it, so he won.

 

[Arodin]

Don't forget to wait for midweek stat corrections before imposing the tiebreak, or you will have more drama on your hands.

Some of these ties may not be by week's end.

(FF's version of replay review...back in the USA Today days that didn't happen.)

 

[LAUNCH]

We do decimal scoring. Each team "calls" in 3 tie breakers. If there are still tied after those 3, then its higher seed.

In the championship it's

5 Tie Breaker players must be called in.
Season Head to Head
Season Total Points
Season Record vs. other division
Total Points of playoffs & championship game
Rematch in week 17
Co-Champs

We've had really close games, but never a tie. It's always good to have concrete rules with a defined end. I think I could win the powerball twice before we had co-champs in our league.

 

[Ilov80s]

Like said earlier, get decimal scoring and tiebreaker should be top seed.

 

[burnall]

Welp, 169-169 thanks to that Hightower screen.

I have the highest scoring starter, most bench points, most total TDs and better record. I'm covered yes? There is no playoff tiebreaker on our league page and commish hasn't responded to my email yet...

First - You should use decimal scoring to make ties far less likely.

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That, I say use whoever has most yards from their RB/WR/TE combined.

dont use bench players they wernt in the game and shouldnt count at all.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Should always just be seed. No muss no fuss.

-QG

What do you do if you have divisions and both #1s tie in the finale?

1) Better Record

2) Head-to-head or points (whichever you use for division ties)

3) The one not used in 3)

4) Most points against (aka strength of schedule)

5) All-play record

6) Live ammo Russian roulette

-QG

 

[Deranged Hermit]

We go by total yards from the starters as the tie breaker. Never had to got to the second tie breaker.

 

[Ironman2131]

This reminds me that I should probably put in some kind of playoff tiebreaker rule in my league. Although I'm leaning towards the first tiebreaker being who would have won if each team could make one substitution. Seems the most fair to me and I don't mind figuring out who advances by hand.

As for giving the tie to the higher seed, after getting a little screwed last year, I think the tie should go to the team with the most regular season points. Last year I had by far the most points but because of a scheduling quirk (teams went crazy against me) I finished 8-5 and lost in the semis on a tiebreaker when New Orleans' kicker hit the extra point after that meaningless Ingram touchdown in week 15. Why would a team I outscored in the regular season get the better of me in the playoffs just because of the regular season scheduling?

 

[Quasimoto]

Bench points are dumb because you can just hold 2-3 QBs since our league doesn't have any limits on positions. Of course, I lost a game one year due to that very rule... fortunately it was a meaningless regular season game.

I think highest scoring starter is the most fair when not in a fractional league.

I just offered to buy the other owner lunch (offer accepted). Of all the ways to lose a game... it's easily the craziest finish I've ever seen in 30+ years in this hobby.

What's "dumb" is not having any tiebreaker set in your rules...and not having decimal scoring.

If you use decimal scoring the likelihood that you will ever have to break a tie are remote in the first place, so the tiebreaker mechanism for individual games means little. I don't feel strongly that bench points should be used as the tiebreaker, but given the fact that the tiebreaker will almost never be invoked in a league with decimal scoring bench points are as good an arbitrary tiebreaker as any.

 

[DropKick]

Should always just be seed. No muss no fuss.

-QG

What do you do if you have divisions and both #1s tie in the finale?

Co-Champs? Do you really want to have the championship come down to tie breakers?

And, as mentioned, consider fractional scoring to lessen the chance...

 

[DropKick]

Bench points are dumb because you can just hold 2-3 QBs since our league doesn't have any limits on positions. Of course, I lost a game one year due to that very rule... fortunately it was a meaningless regular season game.

I think highest scoring starter is the most fair when not in a fractional league.

I just offered to buy the other owner lunch (offer accepted). Of all the ways to lose a game... it's easily the craziest finish I've ever seen in 30+ years in this hobby.

What's "dumb" is not having any tiebreaker set in your rules...and not having decimal scoring.

If you use decimal scoring the likelihood that you will ever have to break a tie are remote in the first place, so the tiebreaker mechanism for individual games means little. I don't feel strongly that bench points should be used as the tiebreaker, but given the fact that the tiebreaker will almost never be invoked in a league with decimal scoring bench points are as good an arbitrary tiebreaker as any.

Why settle for arbitrary? Why not NFL points (TDs, FGs, etc.)?

 

[Quasimoto]

Bench points are dumb because you can just hold 2-3 QBs since our league doesn't have any limits on positions. Of course, I lost a game one year due to that very rule... fortunately it was a meaningless regular season game.

I think highest scoring starter is the most fair when not in a fractional league.

I just offered to buy the other owner lunch (offer accepted). Of all the ways to lose a game... it's easily the craziest finish I've ever seen in 30+ years in this hobby.

What's "dumb" is not having any tiebreaker set in your rules...and not having decimal scoring.

If you use decimal scoring the likelihood that you will ever have to break a tie are remote in the first place, so the tiebreaker mechanism for individual games means little. I don't feel strongly that bench points should be used as the tiebreaker, but given the fact that the tiebreaker will almost never be invoked in a league with decimal scoring bench points are as good an arbitrary tiebreaker as any.

Why settle for arbitrary? Why not NFL points (TDs, FGs, etc.)?

It's all arbitrary...especially when we're talking about a tie that may need to be broken once every 10 years in leagues that are properly setup with decimal scoring. The methodology just isn't that important. Bench points is often the default option on league management sites. If you want to go to the trouble of establishing a tiebreaker that you feel is more fair and realistic, then more power to you, but I think that time can probably be put to better use.

 

[DropKick]

Bench points are dumb because you can just hold 2-3 QBs since our league doesn't have any limits on positions. Of course, I lost a game one year due to that very rule... fortunately it was a meaningless regular season game.

I think highest scoring starter is the most fair when not in a fractional league.

I just offered to buy the other owner lunch (offer accepted). Of all the ways to lose a game... it's easily the craziest finish I've ever seen in 30+ years in this hobby.

What's "dumb" is not having any tiebreaker set in your rules...and not having decimal scoring.

If you use decimal scoring the likelihood that you will ever have to break a tie are remote in the first place, so the tiebreaker mechanism for individual games means little. I don't feel strongly that bench points should be used as the tiebreaker, but given the fact that the tiebreaker will almost never be invoked in a league with decimal scoring bench points are as good an arbitrary tiebreaker as any.

Why settle for arbitrary? Why not NFL points (TDs, FGs, etc.)?

It's all arbitrary...especially when we're talking about a tie that may need to be broken once every 10 years in leagues that are properly setup with decimal scoring. The methodology just isn't that important. Bench points is often the default option on league management sites. If you want to go to the trouble of establishing a tiebreaker that you feel is more fair and realistic, then more power to you, but I think that time can probably be put to better use.

It doesn't take more than a couple minutes to identify meaningful tie breakers - such as actual points - rather than go to bench scoring. Many dynasty rosters contain injured players and devy prospects. But, yes, it should be a rare event.