Playoffs Thread - Baltimore V New England (1 Viewer)

[Hedgehog]

i can understand the Evans drop not being called a TD but why in the world wasnt it reviewed?

 

[Raider Nation]

i can understand the Evans drop not being called a TD but why in the world wasnt it reviewed?

Why would it be? It wasn't ruled a TD.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Just how hammered is Kraft?

hammered enough to ask Bledsoe to kiss him

Bledsoe to Kraft: "When I get that feelin' I need sexual healing"

I hear Kraft is available these days.

One of the most unclassy things i've seen at FBGs

Sorry, I couldn't resist. It's not often you have the chance to say something here that might actually offend someone.

You clearly aren't apologizing here

 

[Ghost Rider]

i can understand the Evans drop not being called a TD but why in the world wasnt it reviewed?

Why would it be? It wasn't ruled a TD.

Reviews come from upstairs when it is under 2 minutes in either half.

 

[RCon]

i can understand the Evans drop not being called a TD but why in the world wasnt it reviewed?

Why would it be? It wasn't ruled a TD.

Last two minutes of a half, the booth is supposed to signal for a review on all questionable calls. That call might have been right, but it was certainly worth reviewing.

 

[Kilgore]

You've also got to wonder why the Ravens let a guy with a lower leg injury go into the latter part of the season as a placekicker. That's a recipe for disaster. If you can't trust him, there's probably somebody better out there.

He hit a 44 and 47-yarder last week in a 7-point win over the Texans. It was just rushed. Ravens should have called timeout.

Yeah, he did. They absolutely should have. I was yelling at my television silently. And then he hesitated like he was expecting Belichick to freeze him. Too bad about the loss. Sorry to a Ravens fan. (I used to twenty-five mins from B'More in my early twenties, back when it was less hipster and probably a bit rougher.)

Baltimore is still not hipster. It's a fine place to live, but definitely not hipster. I live there (and yes, I still can't root for the Ravens).

 

[Hedgehog]

i can understand the Evans drop not being called a TD but why in the world wasnt it reviewed?

Why would it be? It wasn't ruled a TD.

Last two minutes of a half, the booth is supposed to signal for a review on all questionable calls. That call might have been right, but it was certainly worth reviewing.

Exactly - thats not close enough to warrant a review? Ridiculous - it was a game changing play - that and Harbaugh botching the TO were just as bad as the kicker shanking it

 

[JZilla]

Baltimore hipster

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Just how hammered is Kraft?

hammered enough to ask Bledsoe to kiss him

Bledsoe to Kraft: "When I get that feelin' I need sexual healing"

I hear Kraft is available these days.

One of the most unclassy things i've seen at FBGs

Sorry, I couldn't resist. It's not often you have the chance to say something here that might actually offend someone.

You clearly aren't apologizing here

Seriously? This offends you? Hell, you must be offended pretty much non-stop here if that comment upsets you.

 

[Raider Nation]

I had a bad feeling as soon as Ed Reed picked up that ball and took it with him. Horrible form, and unfortunately, typical Ravens.

Can someone describe what happened here? I must have looked away for a minute.

 

[bryhamm]

better team won. the super bowl might not be the worst ever after all.

hate when people say this.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Just how hammered is Kraft?

hammered enough to ask Bledsoe to kiss him

Bledsoe to Kraft: "When I get that feelin' I need sexual healing"

I hear Kraft is available these days.

One of the most unclassy things i've seen at FBGs

Sorry, I couldn't resist. It's not often you have the chance to say something here that might actually offend someone.

You clearly aren't apologizing here

Seriously? This offends you? Hell, you must be offended pretty much non-stop here if that comment upsets you.

Saying that Drew Bledsoe should get with Bob Kraft because he's available now that his wife's dead isn't offending to most people?I realize it's a message board...but think about what you're typing. Being cute only makes yourself feel better.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Saying that Drew Bledsoe should get with Bob Kraft because he's available now that his wife's dead isn't offending to most people?I realize it's a message board...but think about what you're typing. Being cute only makes yourself feel better.

Um, I'm not the one who typed that. Nice try. I made a silly joke referencing a horrible song. Somebody else piled on with dead spouse reference.Point being, we've seen WAY more obnoxious stuff almost daily here. So yeah, bad taste....but....

 

[bryhamm]

Good game. Heartbreaking loss for BAL. Congrats to NE fans.

Felt like at the end BAL was playing for the tie and not for the win. Imo, they should have run the ball to get the first, called their last TO and then tried to win it by passing a couple of times into the endzone before trying the kick.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Saying that Drew Bledsoe should get with Bob Kraft because he's available now that his wife's dead isn't offending to most people?I realize it's a message board...but think about what you're typing. Being cute only makes yourself feel better.

Um, I'm not the one who typed that. Nice try. I made a silly joke referencing a horrible song. Somebody else piled on with dead spouse reference.Point being, we've seen WAY more obnoxious stuff almost daily here. So yeah, bad taste....but....

I know what you're saying. I'm a bears fan...not a pats fan. But after what Kraft did to end the lockout, Jeff Saturday said about Kraft just after the lockout, the patches the Patriot players are wearing, BJGE pointing to his patch after the TD celebration...I figure the guy should get some kind of respect.ETA: When did I say YOU did it? You responded. And i'm the one easily offended...

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Saying that Drew Bledsoe should get with Bob Kraft because he's available now that his wife's dead isn't offending to most people?I realize it's a message board...but think about what you're typing. Being cute only makes yourself feel better.

Um, I'm not the one who typed that. Nice try. I made a silly joke referencing a horrible song. Somebody else piled on with dead spouse reference.Point being, we've seen WAY more obnoxious stuff almost daily here. So yeah, bad taste....but....

I know what you're saying. I'm a bears fan...not a pats fan. But after what Kraft did to end the lockout, Jeff Saturday said about Kraft just after the lockout, the patches the Patriot players are wearing, BJGE pointing to his patch after the TD celebration...I figure the guy should get some kind of respect.

Fair enough. It's definitely not in good taste.

 

[HellToupee]

Just how hammered is Kraft?

hammered enough to ask Bledsoe to kiss him

Bledsoe to Kraft: "When I get that feelin' I need sexual healing"

I hear Kraft is available these days.

One of the most unclassy things i've seen at FBGs

Sorry, I couldn't resist. It's not often you have the chance to say something here that might actually offend someone.

You clearly aren't apologizing here

Seriously? This offends you? Hell, you must be offended pretty much non-stop here if that comment upsets you.

Saying that Drew Bledsoe should get with Bob Kraft because he's available now that his wife's dead isn't offending to most people?I realize it's a message board...but think about what you're typing. Being cute only makes yourself feel better.

C_mon_man!

 

[Jason Wood]

Good game overall.

 

[Snickers]

Harbaugh is a complete #####, he lost the game by not going for it on the 4th and less than 1.

 

[HughHoney]

RaiderNation, it was really nothing on the Reed play. He knocked the ball away then picked it up off the ground and ran with it to the sideline. It had no effect on the game and had nothing to do with dropping a td, a kicker getting on the field late, not calling a TO to get your team ready, or missing a GW field goal.

 

[Da Guru]

maybe it's just me... but the ball that was dropped. was it not calvin johnson like? if you have the ball in control and take 2 steps in the endzone prior to it being knocked loose....is that not a touchdown...? no biggy just curious... shouldn't ravens have won with that play?

wonder what the line was....

Yes they should have won if he completed the "process" of the catch. Evans had one foot down..two feet down..then the ball was knocked out. IMO once the catch was made and both feet are down the play was over. That same catch would have been a live fumble between the goal lines.

 

[Da Guru]

Harbaugh is a complete #####, he lost the game by not going for it on the 4th and less than 1.

There is not an NFL coach would have gone for it at that point of the game. It was the right call..just seemed too rushed. Harbaugh should have called a TO just to settle things down.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I thought that Lee evans caught that TD (very similar to the hernandez td earlier this year) At least that play should have been reviewed.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

i can understand the Evans drop not being called a TD but why in the world wasnt it reviewed?

Why would it be? It wasn't ruled a TD.

b/c it was in the last nimute of thr game ergo the coaches can't challenge it. all bordeline plays in the last minute are the responsibility of the replay ref upstairs to call. I thought it was a TD.

 

[Raider Nation]

I had a small fortune on the over. Nobody would have liked to see Evans hold onto that ball more than me.

But it's wasn't a TD. He didn't come CLOSE to "completing the catch" ... move on.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

maybe it's just me... but the ball that was dropped. was it not calvin johnson like? if you have the ball in control and take 2 steps in the endzone prior to it being knocked loose....is that not a touchdown...? no biggy just curious... shouldn't ravens have won with that play?

wonder what the line was....

Yes they should have won if he completed the "process" of the catch. Evans had one foot down..two feet down..then the ball was knocked out. IMO once the catch was made and both feet are down the play was over. That same catch would have been a live fumble between the goal lines.

There were never two feet down. The ball was loose before the 2nd came down.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Brady gets bailed out by the Pats defense. That the story of his life.

Yeah, the story of his life...he's just along for the ride for those SB titles.

 

[ivnabru]

Harbaugh is a complete #####, he lost the game by not going for it on the 4th and less than 1.

And he misses that conversion he's remembered for a very long time as the guy who made the worst coaching decision of all time. He made the right call there if for no other reason than self preservation, if you have an almost certain OT why take 1 single shot for most likely a 1st down or a loss? Doubtful they'd have taken an endzone shot on 4th and 1 so it's not like they win if they make it. They're barely in a better situation than they were.

 

[faulkfan]

i can understand the Evans drop not being called a TD but why in the world wasnt it reviewed?

A better question might be why Evans has hands since he doesn't know how to use them. I guess we know why Buffalo cut him...

 

[Jaruta]

Harbaugh is a complete #####, he lost the game by not going for it on the 4th and less than 1.

And he misses that conversion he's remembered for a very long time as the guy who made the worst coaching decision of all time. He made the right call there if for no other reason than self preservation, if you have an almost certain OT why take 1 single shot for most likely a 1st down or a loss? Doubtful they'd have taken an endzone shot on 4th and 1 so it's not like they win if they make it. They're barely in a better situation than they were.

he lost it when he didnt go for it on the fourth and 1 earlier. Cundiff iced it. 3 games we lost because of him this year

 

[Road Warriors]

Brady gets bailed out by the Pats defense. That the story of his life.

I won't argue that he did not play his best today, but NE would not have been playing today withoug Brady carrying the team most of the year.

Spot on. NE defense played great today, carrying them to the AFC title and Super Bowl. However, without Brady and the offense's play throughout the year, they wouldn't have been in the title game at home. Brady & co. carried the team through the regular season. The D has stepped up in the playoffs, and that could end up leading the charge to another NE SB win.

 

[RavenLunatic]

That Hernandez TD is the one I was reminded of.

No sour grapes. Just deserved a review.

 

[Donnybrook]

Brady gets bailed out by the Pats defense. That the story of his life.

Yeah, the story of his life...he's just along for the ride for those SB titles.

I will admit that was just sour grapes on my part. I am just not looking forward to two more weeks of media hype of the greatest QB and coach ever.

 

[ivnabru]

Harbaugh is a complete #####, he lost the game by not going for it on the 4th and less than 1.

And he misses that conversion he's remembered for a very long time as the guy who made the worst coaching decision of all time. He made the right call there if for no other reason than self preservation, if you have an almost certain OT why take 1 single shot for most likely a 1st down or a loss? Doubtful they'd have taken an endzone shot on 4th and 1 so it's not like they win if they make it. They're barely in a better situation than they were.

he lost it when he didnt go for it on the fourth and 1 earlier. Cundiff iced it. 3 games we lost because of him this year

Oh I thought you were talking about the last one. That's different. Personally I think that was the right call too. But that's in retrospect since they got 3 points and I believe either a lead or tie at that moment.

 

[ivnabru]

That Hernandez TD is the one I was reminded of. No sour grapes. Just deserved a review.

I agree it deserved a review. That being said watching the replay there's no way in the world they could have overturned it. So it's not a game changing mistake.Even if you think it was a TD it wasn't clear enough to overturn a call on the field. He didn't even get both feet down.

 

[JZilla]

RaiderNation, it was really nothing on the Reed play. He knocked the ball away then picked it up off the ground and ran with it to the sideline. It had no effect on the game and had nothing to do with dropping a td, a kicker getting on the field late, not calling a TO to get your team ready, or missing a GW field goal.

Thanks for the confirm. I don't have DVR.

 

[cstu]

Brady gets bailed out by the Pats defense. That the story of his life.

I won't argue that he did not play his best today, but NE would not have been playing today withoug Brady carrying the team most of the year.

Spot on. NE defense played great today, carrying them to the AFC title and Super Bowl. However, without Brady and the offense's play throughout the year, they wouldn't have been in the title game at home. Brady & co. carried the team through the regular season. The D has stepped up in the playoffs, and that could end up leading the charge to another NE SB win.

I think what he meant was Brady, along with being a great QB, is one lucky SOB. It's unreal how things roll his way. If you told me before the game started that Brady would throw for barely over 200 yards, no TD's, and 2 INT's but the Pats would still win I would have called you

 

[bryhamm]

For you people complaining that there was no review ... there likely was, sort of. The replay official likely saw the replay and determined that there was no reason to buzz down to the ref and tell him to go under the hood. Thus, he likely did look at a replay and decided nothing further needed to happen because the call on the field was right.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Brady gets bailed out by the Pats defense. That the story of his life.

I won't argue that he did not play his best today, but NE would not have been playing today withoug Brady carrying the team most of the year.

Spot on. NE defense played great today, carrying them to the AFC title and Super Bowl. However, without Brady and the offense's play throughout the year, they wouldn't have been in the title game at home. Brady & co. carried the team through the regular season. The D has stepped up in the playoffs, and that could end up leading the charge to another NE SB win.

I think what he meant was Brady, along with being a great QB, is one lucky SOB. It's unreal how things roll his way. If you told me before the game started that Brady would throw for barely over 200 yards, no TD's, and 2 INT's but the Pats would still win I would have called you

Yes, we call Cundiff our little leprechaun.

 

[JZilla]

Joe Flaccid's pretty self-obsessed for a guy who stinks on ice

 

[12punch]

I don't know if I already saaid it in this thread or another,, but I salute every single balt fan ---- even the crybaby ones.

The superbowl always means a lot, but it always means more when u beat the best to get there!!

michael jordan, magicg, and bird hogged a lot of championships ---- no shame in being the buffalo bills 4 years straight.

 

[RavenLunatic]

Would have been nice to invade Indy for a couple of weeks. Maybe carry back some of our history with us. Oh well. Good thing we built that museum for the offseason.

 

[rockaction]

You've also got to wonder why the Ravens let a guy with a lower leg injury go into the latter part of the season as a placekicker. That's a recipe for disaster. If you can't trust him, there's probably somebody better out there.

He hit a 44 and 47-yarder last week in a 7-point win over the Texans. It was just rushed. Ravens should have called timeout.

Yeah, he did. They absolutely should have. I was yelling at my television silently. And then he hesitated like he was expecting Belichick to freeze him. Too bad about the loss. Sorry to a Ravens fan. (I used to twenty-five mins from B'More in my early twenties, back when it was less hipster and probably a bit rougher.)

Baltimore is still not hipster. It's a fine place to live, but definitely not hipster. I live there (and yes, I still can't root for the Ravens).

Really? Not what I've heard, nor was that what I caught in the air come the end of my time there (about a decade ago). Every hipster I've come into contact with seems to be fleeing CT to move to Baltimore or Philly. But I do not live there, so... http://therumpus.net/2011/05/post-grad-hipsters-guide-to-inhabitable-u-s-cities/http://www.salon.com/2010/03/16/hipsters_food_stamps_pinched/*eta: I think I misread your point, though. I would not imagine it to be hipster overall. It's still probably Baltimore, hardscrabble as I remember. I would imagine there are more hipsters there than in other places, all other things constant, and that it had changed the city a bit. I'm also probably working off of a less pejorative and bigger umbrella'd definition of hipster than the culture writ large thinks of now, too. To wit: There's probably been a bit of a change when the biggest rock/pop musical names from an area -- nationally -- have gone from Kix to acts like Wye Oak and Animal Collective. Yeah, that's everywhere, and tastes have changed, but there's information coded in there about a cultural shift that would seem to embody something that isn't just generational. We're talking about going from booze and whiskey to LSD and guitar/folk at the Wadsworth Atheneum in Hartford, CT. *eta 2: a quick google search of "Baltimore, reputation, hipster" leads to comment threads where people looking for hipsterism in DC are instructed to not pass go and go directly to Baltimore where they exist "in droves."

 

[AmosMoses]

You've also got to wonder why the Ravens let a guy with a lower leg injury go into the latter part of the season as a placekicker. That's a recipe for disaster. If you can't trust him, there's probably somebody better out there.

He hit a 44 and 47-yarder last week in a 7-point win over the Texans. It was just rushed. Ravens should have called timeout.

Yeah, he did. They absolutely should have. I was yelling at my television silently. And then he hesitated like he was expecting Belichick to freeze him. Too bad about the loss. Sorry to a Ravens fan. (I used to twenty-five mins from B'More in my early twenties, back when it was less hipster and probably a bit rougher.)

Baltimore is still not hipster. It's a fine place to live, but definitely not hipster. I live there (and yes, I still can't root for the Ravens).

Really? Not what I've heard, nor was that what I caught in the air come the end of my time there (about a decade ago). Every hipster I've come into contact with seems to be fleeing CT to move to Baltimore or Philly. But I do not live there, so... http://therumpus.net/2011/05/post-grad-hipsters-guide-to-inhabitable-u-s-cities/http://www.salon.com/2010/03/16/hipsters_food_stamps_pinched/*eta: I think I misread your point, though. I would not imagine it to be hipster overall. It's still probably Baltimore, hardscrabble as I remember. I would imagine there are more hipsters there than in other places, all other things constant, and that it had changed the city a bit. I'm also probably working off of a less pejorative and bigger umbrella'd definition of hipster than the culture writ large thinks of now, too. To wit: There's probably been a bit of a change when the biggest rock/pop musical names from an area -- nationally -- have gone from Kix to acts like Wye Oak and Animal Collective. Yeah, that's everywhere, and tastes have changed, but there's information coded in there about a cultural shift that would seem to embody something that isn't just generational. We're talking about going from booze and whiskey to LSD and guitar/folk at the Wadsworth Atheneum in Hartford, CT. *eta 2: a quick google search of "Baltimore, reputation, hipster" leads to comment threads where people looking for hipsterism in DC are instructed to not pass go and go directly to Baltimore where they exist "in droves."

Spoiler

No one cares

 

[yellowdog]

maybe it's just me... but the ball that was dropped. was it not calvin johnson like? if you have the ball in control and take 2 steps in the endzone prior to it being knocked loose....is that not a touchdown...? no biggy just curious... shouldn't ravens have won with that play?

wonder what the line was....

Yes they should have won if he completed the "process" of the catch. Evans had one foot down..two feet down..then the ball was knocked out. IMO once the catch was made and both feet are down the play was over. That same catch would have been a live fumble between the goal lines.

There were never two feet down. The ball was loose before the 2nd came down.

This is the correct answer. It has nothing to do with "completing the catch" or anything else. If you look at the video and pause it just as Moore is striking the ball, Evans left foot is not down. No catch.

 

[Godsbrother]

Not a catch -- surprised anyone thinks that it was.

Flacco outplayed Brady.

Horrible way to lose the game though no guarantee Ravens win if Cundiff makes it.

Was pulling for the Patriots just because of my dislike of Ray Lewis. Now rooting for the Giants in the SB.

 

[Workhorse]

Flacco outplayed Brady and BJGE outplayed Ray Rice.

Who could've seen THAT coming?

 

[bryhamm]

For you people complaining that there was no review ... there likely was, sort of. The replay official likely saw the replay and determined that there was no reason to buzz down to the ref and tell him to go under the hood. Thus, he likely did look at a replay and decided nothing further needed to happen because the call on the field was right.

On Mike and Mike this morning they confirmed that this is exactly what happened.

 

[rockaction]

You've also got to wonder why the Ravens let a guy with a lower leg injury go into the latter part of the season as a placekicker. That's a recipe for disaster. If you can't trust him, there's probably somebody better out there.

He hit a 44 and 47-yarder last week in a 7-point win over the Texans. It was just rushed. Ravens should have called timeout.

Yeah, he did. They absolutely should have. I was yelling at my television silently. And then he hesitated like he was expecting Belichick to freeze him. Too bad about the loss. Sorry to a Ravens fan. (I used to twenty-five mins from B'More in my early twenties, back when it was less hipster and probably a bit rougher.)

Baltimore is still not hipster. It's a fine place to live, but definitely not hipster. I live there (and yes, I still can't root for the Ravens).

Really? Not what I've heard, nor was that what I caught in the air come the end of my time there (about a decade ago). Every hipster I've come into contact with seems to be fleeing CT to move to Baltimore or Philly. But I do not live there, so... http://therumpus.net/2011/05/post-grad-hipsters-guide-to-inhabitable-u-s-cities/http://www.salon.com/2010/03/16/hipsters_food_stamps_pinched/*eta: I think I misread your point, though. I would not imagine it to be hipster overall. It's still probably Baltimore, hardscrabble as I remember. I would imagine there are more hipsters there than in other places, all other things constant, and that it had changed the city a bit. I'm also probably working off of a less pejorative and bigger umbrella'd definition of hipster than the culture writ large thinks of now, too. To wit: There's probably been a bit of a change when the biggest rock/pop musical names from an area -- nationally -- have gone from Kix to acts like Wye Oak and Animal Collective. Yeah, that's everywhere, and tastes have changed, but there's information coded in there about a cultural shift that would seem to embody something that isn't just generational. We're talking about going from booze and whiskey to LSD and guitar/folk at the Wadsworth Atheneum in Hartford, CT. *eta 2: a quick google search of "Baltimore, reputation, hipster" leads to comment threads where people looking for hipsterism in DC are instructed to not pass go and go directly to Baltimore where they exist "in droves."

Spoiler

No one cares

Maybe the dude that went out of his way to say something about Baltimore did. Other than that, you really don't know, now do you? /end of this interlude on my end

 

[johnnycakes]

You've also got to wonder why the Ravens let a guy with a lower leg injury go into the latter part of the season as a placekicker. That's a recipe for disaster. If you can't trust him, there's probably somebody better out there.

He hit a 44 and 47-yarder last week in a 7-point win over the Texans. It was just rushed. Ravens should have called timeout.

Yeah, he did. They absolutely should have. I was yelling at my television silently. And then he hesitated like he was expecting Belichick to freeze him. Too bad about the loss. Sorry to a Ravens fan. (I used to twenty-five mins from B'More in my early twenties, back when it was less hipster and probably a bit rougher.)

Baltimore is still not hipster. It's a fine place to live, but definitely not hipster. I live there (and yes, I still can't root for the Ravens).

#1: Can we please stop calling them ‘hipsters’ and go back to calling them ‘#######?’