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As we know with RRBC taking over the NFL it's nice to know what RBs are not only their team's "workhorse" but also the back who will get valuable playing time on third downs-
SlatonAs we know with RRBC taking over the NFL it's nice to know what RBs are not only their team's "workhorse" but also the back who will get valuable playing time on third downs-
I think the plan is to end this to a degree.Maybe Moats can take some 3rd downs or Brown can take some plunges and...I don't think statistically it'll seem like he's a 3 down back when the season is over. (in theory)SlatonAs we know with RRBC taking over the NFL it's nice to know what RBs are not only their team's "workhorse" but also the back who will get valuable playing time on third downs-
having him play 3 downs and keep getting injured is almost stupidSjax
Do you have anything to support this? Seems insane...Moats and Brown suck compared to Slaton. Plus Moats is an awful blocker I can't see why they'd want him in on 3rd down.I think the plan is to end this to a degree.Maybe Moats can take some 3rd downs or Brown can take some plunges and...I don't think statistically it'll seem like he's a 3 down back when the season is over. (in theory)SlatonAs we know with RRBC taking over the NFL it's nice to know what RBs are not only their team's "workhorse" but also the back who will get valuable playing time on third downs-
guys that DO stay in on 3rd down the majority of the time-I would say that Barber is a 3 down back.Could you clarify the question? Guys that can stay in? Guys that do? What are you really asking?
Yeah. But it's a shame he couldn't get the record with the Cowboys... it seems that the Cardinals have that record tied to them and not the Cowgirls.In any case, with so few RBs having both the talent and the opportunity to get the number of carries needed with the growing influx of RBBC, I would venture to say that Emmitt Smith's rushing record is safe both in the near future and for many, many years to come.Don't mean to hi-jack, but I think it's pretty relative.
VonYeah. But it's a shame he couldn't get the record with the Cowboys... it seems that the Cardinals have that record tied to them and not the Cowgirls.In any case, with so few RBs having both the talent and the opportunity to get the number of carries needed with the growing influx of RBBC, I would venture to say that Emmitt Smith's rushing record is safe both in the near future and for many, many years to come.Don't mean to hi-jack, but I think it's pretty relative.Von
he broke paytons record in the 2002 season.......played for cards 2003 & 2004He broke it as a Cowboy at Texas Stadium. I was there.Yeah. But it's a shame he couldn't get the record with the Cowboys... it seems that the Cardinals have that record tied to them and not the Cowgirls.In any case, with so few RBs having both the talent and the opportunity to get the number of carries needed with the growing influx of RBBC, I would venture to say that Emmitt Smith's rushing record is safe both in the near future and for many, many years to come.Don't mean to hi-jack, but I think it's pretty relative.Von
he broke paytons record in the 2002 season.......played for cards 2003 & 2004
they werent last year and their rbbc mates are still there this year. so, not sure how they will be the 3 down back this year.Chris Johnson
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DWILL
I'm sorry. I thought the rushing record standings were:Emmitt Smith 18,355Walter Payton 16,726Barry Sanders 15,269Curtis Martin 14,101Jerome Bettis 13,662I didn't know they were actually...Emmitt Smith 16,727Walter Payton 16,726Barry Sanders 15,269Curtis Martin 14,101Jerome Bettis 13,662My apologies.He broke it as a Cowboy at Texas Stadium. I was there.Yeah. But it's a shame he couldn't get the record with the Cowboys... it seems that the Cardinals have that record tied to them and not the Cowgirls.In any case, with so few RBs having both the talent and the opportunity to get the number of carries needed with the growing influx of RBBC, I would venture to say that Emmitt Smith's rushing record is safe both in the near future and for many, many years to come.Don't mean to hi-jack, but I think it's pretty relative.Von
he broke paytons record in the 2002 season.......played for cards 2003 & 2004
VonThat is a really lame effort to cover your mistake. Accept your ignorance and move on.I'm sorry. I thought the rushing record standings were:Emmitt Smith 18,355Walter Payton 16,726Barry Sanders 15,269Curtis Martin 14,101Jerome Bettis 13,662I didn't know they were actually...Emmitt Smith 16,727Walter Payton 16,726Barry Sanders 15,269Curtis Martin 14,101Jerome Bettis 13,662My apologies.He broke it as a Cowboy at Texas Stadium. I was there.Yeah. But it's a shame he couldn't get the record with the Cowboys... it seems that the Cardinals have that record tied to them and not the Cowgirls.In any case, with so few RBs having both the talent and the opportunity to get the number of carries needed with the growing influx of RBBC, I would venture to say that Emmitt Smith's rushing record is safe both in the near future and for many, many years to come.Don't mean to hi-jack, but I think it's pretty relative.Von
he broke paytons record in the 2002 season.......played for cards 2003 & 2004
Von
How is DeAngelo not a three down back?He is definelty in on first and second and he is a very good reciever as well. True, Stewart will get carries but so will alot of other guys on this list.they werent last year and their rbbc mates are still there this year. so, not sure how they will be the 3 down back this year.Chris Johnson
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grant may be. unless reggie bush gets hit by a bus, thomas is not.Is Ryan Grant a three down back ? Pierre Thomas ?
Or a linebacker.grant may be. unless reggie bush gets hit by a bus, thomas is not.Is Ryan Grant a three down back ?
Pierre Thomas ?
or a safety.or me for that matter. And I am most definitely not as hard a hitter as the real prosOr a linebacker.grant may be. unless reggie bush gets hit by a bus, thomas is not.Is Ryan Grant a three down back ?
Pierre Thomas ?
Emmitt ended 2002 with 17,162 yards, so the record is tied to him and the Cowboys.
So you're saying that to break Emmitt Smith all-time rushing record a RB only has to get 17,163 yards?No.To break his record one has to get 18,356+, which he set as a Cardinal.Otherwise by your reasoning any records Randy Moss sets is 'credited' to the Vikings, TO records are 49er 'property', etc. Emmitt Smith is a top 5 all-time RB (I'll give you that), but he established the all-time rushing record with the Cardinals. The Cowboys didn't even give him the proper respect to keep him on their team, so he could retire as a Cowboy (disreguarding any little phony ceremony to the contrary I've heard).VonOr a linebacker.grant may be. unless reggie bush gets hit by a bus, thomas is not.Is Ryan Grant a three down back ?
Pierre Thomas ?

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Too bad Jerry Rice couldn't get any records with the 49ers either... He'll be remembered as the greatest Seattle Seahawk to ever play the game.Emmitt ended 2002 with 17,162 yards, so the record is tied to him and the Cowboys.So you're saying that to break Emmitt Smith all-time rushing record a RB only has to get 17,163 yards?No.To break his record one has to get 18,356+, which he set as a Cardinal.Otherwise by your reasoning any records Randy Moss sets is 'credited' to the Vikings, TO records are 49er 'property', etc. Emmitt Smith is a top 5 all-time RB (I'll give you that), but he established the all-time rushing record with the Cardinals. The Cowboys didn't even give him the proper respect to keep him on their team, so he could retire as a Cowboy (disreguarding any little phony ceremony to the contrary I've heard).Von
Has to be some of the worstYeah. But it's a shame he couldn't get the record with the Cowboys... it seems that the Cardinals have that record tied to them and not the Cowgirls.In any case, with so few RBs having both the talent and the opportunity to get the number of carries needed with the growing influx of RBBC, I would venture to say that Emmitt Smith's rushing record is safe both in the near future and for many, many years to come.Don't mean to hi-jack, but I think it's pretty relative.Von
ever on here.Clinton Portis is on an outstanding pace. I don't know if he'll make it. He's 28 already. His worst year as a 16 game starter is 1262 rushing yards and he's already at 9200. Maybe he's more on pace to be a top 10 RB or something else in your opinion, I could see that. I just wanted to point out that he is on a very very impressive pace.In any case, with so few RBs having both the talent and the opportunity to get the number of carries needed with the growing influx of RBBC, I would venture to say that Emmitt Smith's rushing record is safe both in the near future and for many, many years to come.Don't mean to hi-jack, but I think it's pretty relative.
please note some 3rd downs and some plunges.I think there's been plenty of articles about the Texans not wanting Slaton to have to take every carry or "along those lines". As I understand it, they want to keep their star RB fresh or "fresher". No big revelations here. Slaton is absolutely going to be the focal point it's just finding ways to give him a breather is all.Do you have anything to support this? Seems insane...Moats and Brown suck compared to Slaton. Plus Moats is an awful blocker I can't see why they'd want him in on 3rd down.I think the plan is to end this to a degree.Maybe Moats can take some 3rd downs or Brown can take some plunges and...I don't think statistically it'll seem like he's a 3 down back when the season is over. (in theory)SlatonAs we know with RRBC taking over the NFL it's nice to know what RBs are not only their team's "workhorse" but also the back who will get valuable playing time on third downs-
LJ will likely come out in favor of Charles on 3rd downs. I think Chris Johnson s/b added to the list because he's always in on 3rd downs.GoreMJDSJaxForteLTPortisWestbrookRonnie BrownKevin SmithLarry JohnsonCedric Benson?
Emmitt Smith is a top 5 all-time RB (I'll give you that), but he established the all-time rushing record with the Cardinals. The Cowboys didn't even give him the proper respect to keep him on their team, so he could retire as a Cowboy (disreguarding any little phony ceremony to the contrary I've heard).VonEmmitt ended 2002 with 17,162 yards, so the record is tied to him and the Cowboys.
establish...according to Mr Webster:no, simply not happening.Lendale has been effective. He is a free agent next year and so the Titans drafted Ringer this year. They will get work.The Titans have to know if Ringer can get the job done without Lendale around, once they know that who knows how much he plays. Lendale takes away enough of Johnson's carries though. He'll be in near the goalline. In for short yardage. In for the 4th quarter clock wasting when they're ahead. I think the Titans are quite aware of how much Johnson means to their success and I wouldn't be surprised if he sits those 4th Qs when they're ahead or ...well misses any plays that Lendale is fine at.It's not like CJ can run further on a 2 yard TD run or waste more time when that(and not necessarily scoring) is the highest priority. The Titans are deep at RB and should trade at least one. They won't so I'm left hoping they at least give some of the nobodies some work and keep the regulars healthy.It's been said a number of times that they'd like to get FB Ahmard Hall involved more. Nothing to get excited about but he's done well with limited opportunities so they'd like to throw him a few more.Rafael Little may be a good 3rd down back type. A number of people have told me that's a fairly likely possibility with him. The Titans have signed and clung to the injured player for a reason. I can't recall the Titans having a back like that. Payton's son, not really. Nash? His presence might be a monkey wrench thrown into this whole thing.Chris Johnson
What are we talking about here? Is it a 3 down back or a workhorse back? They are two different things and Chris Johnson is the former and not the later (at least at this point). Johnson is absolutely a 3 down back but will share some of the workload with White depending on the score. Closer games/games where the Titans are behind Johnson will get the majority of the action...games that are tied to a blowout the carry total will be similar.no, simply not happening.Lendale has been effective. He is a free agent next year and so the Titans drafted Ringer this year. They will get work.The Titans have to know if Ringer can get the job done without Lendale around, once they know that who knows how much he plays. Lendale takes away enough of Johnson's carries though. He'll be in near the goalline. In for short yardage. In for the 4th quarter clock wasting when they're ahead. I think the Titans are quite aware of how much Johnson means to their success and I wouldn't be surprised if he sits those 4th Qs when they're ahead or ...well misses any plays that Lendale is fine at.It's not like CJ can run further on a 2 yard TD run or waste more time when that(and not necessarily scoring) is the highest priority. The Titans are deep at RB and should trade at least one. They won't so I'm left hoping they at least give some of the nobodies some work and keep the regulars healthy.It's been said a number of times that they'd like to get FB Ahmard Hall involved more. Nothing to get excited about but he's done well with limited opportunities so they'd like to throw him a few more.Rafael Little may be a good 3rd down back type. A number of people have told me that's a fairly likely possibility with him. The Titans have signed and clung to the injured player for a reason. I can't recall the Titans having a back like that. Payton's son, not really. Nash? His presence might be a monkey wrench thrown into this whole thing.Chris Johnson
It's not necessarily the RBBC that will limit opportunities to break the record. Emmitt had two huge factors in his favor in terms of opportunity. First, he turned 21 just a few weeks after being drafted. This, obviously, enabled him to pile up a larger number of yards before hitting his prime. Second, he was extremely healthy, missing only 7 of 208 games with Dallas. And, I know 2 of those were because of a hold out in 1993. I'd guess others were just him being held out of the final game of the season and not because of injury. Of course, he was extremely tough and played through pain, but he also avoided serious injuries.As someone else mentioned, Portis is/was on a good pace. He started a few months younger than Emmitt and got off to a great start. So, right off the bat, he was a good contender. But, Portis has missed 12 games already and still needs two more huge (1500+) seasons to get back on pace. In fact, Portis was ahead of Emmitt, year for year, until he missed half the season in 2006. Through age 27, Emmitt has a 958 yard lead on Portis. It will be tough to overcome that lead and play long enough to break the record.In any case, with so few RBs having both the talent and the opportunity to get the number of carries needed with the growing influx of RBBC, I would venture to say that Emmitt Smith's rushing record is safe both in the near future and for many, many years to come.Don't mean to hi-jack, but I think it's pretty relative.
Maybe he is predicting that Jackson will get injured 3 downs into the season this year?having him play 3 downs and keep getting injured is almost stupidSjax

Willie Parker gets about as many looks on 3rd downs as Jim J. Bullock has dates with chicks.OK--now on topicthere are over a dozen 3 down backs, several splitting time w/"heir apparents" and sitting out series as they will work 3rd down often, but will take a blow every 3rd or 4th series...FWPDWillCJohnsonMB-IIIRBrownfor starters all see 3 down work, but have the likes of Mendenhall/Stewart/LWhite/FJones/RWilliams "behind" them...guys that might take an entire series while RB1 takes a blow.