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Polamalu on Tom Brady: "We'll take him." (1 Viewer)
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SeniorVBDStudent
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High praise from one of the best safeties to ever play the game.Not to mention the confirmation of those rumors about Ben not being the most popular guy in the Steelers lockerroom. One of the guys on NFL Network (Jamie Dukes?) mentioned that Tomlin might have had something to do with Ben finally being named a team captain.
Ralph Furley
Footballguy
Dude it's a compliment to one of the greatest QB of all time. Let's not read too much into it.
3C's
Footballguy
No, not really.
He's playing at a very high level now. IF he can string together a few more years of this play, then he's on the finalist list with several others.
Check it out:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nf...-safeties_N.htm
Check it out:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nf...-safeties_N.htm
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
That article got posted on the 16th. Didn't appear to affected Roethlisberger that much in the Raven game.Context, folks. A reporter shoves a mike in a guy's face and he reacted to a question. Nothing more, nothing less. Unless Ben Roethlisberger is a full on retahhhd, I'd wager he'd take a healthy Brady over himself too.
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Thanks for turning a one page thread into ten pages. If you say it they will come. You might as well have said that at Clark's Bar and Grill in Pittsburgh.
Ehh, nah. He's about to win his 2nd SB, one of the top S in the league. He's been playing for 6 years. If he plays 2 more healthy years in the NFL, he's a lock. And at his age, that's a lock. So I don't see how he's "long way". He's actually on the cusp, and pretty much a shoe in.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Since my soundbite inspired some debate, try this:
1. Name a safety playing today better than Troy P
2. Name 5 safeties better than Troy P, ever.
Edited to add: Here's the list. HOF Members By Position
Only Mel Renfro and Ronnie Lott jump out at me...and both split time at Corner and Safety.
1. Name a safety playing today better than Troy P
2. Name 5 safeties better than Troy P, ever.
Edited to add: Here's the list. HOF Members By Position
Only Mel Renfro and Ronnie Lott jump out at me...and both split time at Corner and Safety.
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The HOF has not been too kind to the safety position in general, only 7 pure are in and 2 combo S/CB.Reed, Sanders, Dawkins and Troy will have a tougher time getting voted in because of their position. So, there is no shoe in at safety!
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Dont know if my link is inaccurate, but Easley doesn't appear on that list (although I agree he was great; I would say Troy is a little better).
"1. Name a safety playing today better than Troy P"
Like I said, he's playing at a very high level right now.
Ex. of someone else this year that played at a high level: Ed Reed has more passes defended, INT's, TD's and sacks. Troy has more tackles. Intangibles ?
Let's let him win another SB and play at this level a few more years before we put him in that HOF LOCK category.
Then the HOF committee will make him wait forever to get in.
Like I said, he's playing at a very high level right now.
Ex. of someone else this year that played at a high level: Ed Reed has more passes defended, INT's, TD's and sacks. Troy has more tackles. Intangibles ?
Let's let him win another SB and play at this level a few more years before we put him in that HOF LOCK category.
Then the HOF committee will make him wait forever to get in.
I'd take Larry Wilson and Steve Atwater and LeRoy Butler over Polamalu, and (if he counts as a safety) Rod Woodson.Among current players, I see no reason why Polamalu would be ahead of Ed Reed and career wise at this moment they are both FAR behind Brian Dawkins. I'd even throw Darren Sharper in the mix as an equal of Polamalu, though if Troy makes it another 2-3 years he should pass Sharper.
On topic, I have no problem with what he said. Seems very classy, respectful and most of all honest.
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Why are people in Boston talking about trading Brady?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
What is the controversy? Troy knows very well that Leftwich is going to be gone at season's end and the Steelers are going to need someone to backup Ben next year.
Seriously you guys are reading too much into the statement. He was merely saying that he believes it is ridiculous for the Pats to be thinking about trading Brady. As for Ben not being popular in the locker room I don't think any of us can really know what other players think of him. I do know that I have yet to hear a coach or player on the Steelers say anything disparaging about him.
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Adebisi
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No, he's not a "lock" if he plays 2 more healthy years in the NFL. That is a nonsensical, completely ridiculous statement.teamroc said:
I have not heard anyone in Boston talking about trading Brady, although it would not surprise me if they talked about it on sports radio, where they'll say anything to stir some controversy up.mudshark said:
Not saying there is any controversy, and not trying to read too much into it. Just posting what I thought was a pretty interesting quote.Godsbrother said:What is the controversy? Troy knows very well that Leftwich is going to be gone at season's end and the Steelers are going to need someone to backup Ben next year.Seriously you guys are reading too much into the statement. He was merely saying that he believes it is ridiculous for the Pats to be thinking about trading Brady. As for Ben not being popular in the locker room I don't think any of us can really know what other players think of him. I do know that I have yet to hear a coach or player on the Steelers say anything disparaging about him.
HellToupee
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On Boston sports radio there are callers that say the Patriots should trade Brady and keep Cassel because Brady would bring more and is a health Q . Then there are callers who think they'll get Detroit's two #1s for Cassel or to Carolina for DeAngelo or Stewart and their #1. Some real crazy talk
Vladislav Tretiak
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Ronnie Lott, **** Lane, Willie Wood, Ken Houston, Larry WilsonSeniorVBDStudent said:
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Who wouldn't take Brady? The Colts would take him, too. You can't have enough talent on your roster. I'm pretty sure his comment spoke to the absurdity of wanting to trade him than Pittsburgh needing him.
houndirish
Footballguy
I like Polamalu but I don't think he's even clinched the "Best Steelers Safety Ever" title. Mel Blount still holds that crown in my book although Trolamalu is definitely in the conversation.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
I think many are missing the point. Troy called Brady the best to ever play the game. He didn't say that about Ben. If you don't think he meant that Brady is better than Ben or that he'd love to have Brady as his QB, you're blind.
He spoke (honestly) before his brain registered that he was implicitly insulting his QB with that praise of Brady.
Is this significant? Probably not...except to Ben, maybe.
Troy said what everyone else on the team thinks. It's just most everyone else would try and compliment Brady in a way that didn't sound like they thought Brady was better than Ben.
He spoke (honestly) before his brain registered that he was implicitly insulting his QB with that praise of Brady.
Is this significant? Probably not...except to Ben, maybe.
Troy said what everyone else on the team thinks. It's just most everyone else would try and compliment Brady in a way that didn't sound like they thought Brady was better than Ben.
I'd argue that at this point Polamalu/Carnell Lake is pretty close. Though Polamalu should have the edge pretty quick if he can stay healthy.
by_the_sea_wannabe
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I loved Lake but he was not even close to being in the same league with Troy.
I always thought Lake was an all-pro that was overshadowed by playing in the same secondary as Rod Woodson.Polamalu probably is better, but I'm not sure they are a full league apart.I'd put Lake and Polamalu ahead of Shell though.
timschochet
Footballguy
Carnell Lake was a great Steeler safety as well, but not as good as Polamalu.
However, the guy who I believed would become the greatest safety in the history of the NFL was unfortunately shot and killed last year just as he was really beginning to shine. I have never seen anyone at the safety position with that kind of talent.
In terms of potential future stars a safety, keep an eye on Taylor Mays, now entering his senior year at USC. The guy is a beast!
However, the guy who I believed would become the greatest safety in the history of the NFL was unfortunately shot and killed last year just as he was really beginning to shine. I have never seen anyone at the safety position with that kind of talent.
In terms of potential future stars a safety, keep an eye on Taylor Mays, now entering his senior year at USC. The guy is a beast!
CrossEyed
Footballguy
Shell was more of a complete safety than Lake, IMO. 51 career picks and hit like a truck, even though he wasn't a big guy.
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timschochet
Footballguy
Interesting to me (as someone from Southern California) how many of these safeties we're discussing come from UCLA or USC.
Kenny Easley and Carnell Lake went to UCLA (though Lake played linebacker.)
Lott, Polamalu, and now Taylor Mays went to USC.
Kenny Easley and Carnell Lake went to UCLA (though Lake played linebacker.)
Lott, Polamalu, and now Taylor Mays went to USC.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
It's the system
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Carnell Lake was one of the most underrated players of his time. Guy was a college LB at UCLA that could do it all. He even moved from safety to CB when Woodson went down in 1995 and was a Pro Bowl Safety and CB. He left the Steelers and injuries cut his career short but he was a star. He was a killer on the safety/corner blitz. I don't think he had the ball skills that Troy has but he was always around the football. Loved Donnie Shell but he didn't have the speed or playmaking skills of either of these guys, though he did give Earl Campbell nightmares.
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Finless
Footballguy
Brady is more of a system QB. Sure he'll be talked about in the greatest ever discussion but its more about the team and coaches he was surrounded by. If I was starting a team today I'm not so sure I'd take Brady over Ben. As far as pure talent and IQ goes I might give the nod to Ben.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I guess I am blind then because I can say that I would rather have Ben than Brady as the Steelers QB. This is not to say that I think Ben is a better QB than Brady because I don't. But Brady behind the Steelers o-line for the past couple of seasons would have been a complete disaster.
Sheriff66
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
and the QB that Polamalu (from USC) is calling the best of all time is from Michigan / the Big Ten.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Brady won something like 5 years ago right?
brewer
Footballguy
Shell was made to look very good by those around him. Troy helps to makes everyone else look better. Loved Donnie Shell, but Troy is way better.Lake is an interesting comparison, although I'd give the nod to Troy there as well.And, no way Troy is HoF yet, though if he can steer clear of more concussions he sure should be.
Steel Dillo
Footballguy
I wan't to see Polamalu make the HOF just so I can see how crazy his bronze bust looks with that massive samo-fro!
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Franknbeans
Footballguy
Best move in a long time by the Steeelers front office was trading up to get him in the 1st round
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Adebisi
Footballguy
Yes. And the rest of the league is still trying to catch up.
So far he's got 5 Pro Bowls, 1 SuperBowl win (possibly 2 soon), a couple All-Pro's (not sure the number), and since 2004 has always been considered among the elite safeties if not the outright best. All this is 6 years.
Hmm... yeah, barring unjury, he's going to be a lock. I know a lot of people don't like when others jump the gun about players for the HOF, but in this case I think it's clear enough that his prospects are extremely likely. If he gets a few more years playing at his current level and wins the SuperBowl next Sunday, then he's an easy HOF'er.
Hmm... yeah, barring unjury, he's going to be a lock. I know a lot of people don't like when others jump the gun about players for the HOF, but in this case I think it's clear enough that his prospects are extremely likely. If he gets a few more years playing at his current level and wins the SuperBowl next Sunday, then he's an easy HOF'er.
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