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Polamalu (1 Viewer)
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lets not get ahead of ourselves
whodeywhodey
Footballguy
I knew this thread was coming.
We haven't even finished 1/2 of 1 quarter of 1 game of the year.
We haven't even finished 1/2 of 1 quarter of 1 game of the year.
Fragis Frodum
Footballguy
Jump the gun much?
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
So the previous six years don't matter?
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Im not gonna dog on you for your opinion or thoughts but I think Polamalu is a ways from being compared to Ronnie... thats just me though.Do I think he could be considered in same class when its all said and done. Yes but not now.
Fantaholic
Footballguy
If he finishes his career strong with no major injuries from here on out, I would absolutely have to put him in the conversation.
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Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Native
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
Obviously taking a step back..you are 100% correct. Troy does still have to keep up a high level of production for several + more seasons. Call me crazy, but I think he can do it...This cat is just a game changer. Besides Ed Reed, I can't think of another player in the last 10-15 years who I'd rather have at safety.
Spartans346
Footballguy
He's leading the league in tackles and interceptions this season.
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whodeywhodey
Footballguy
No doubt. But why post this thread at the VERY beginning of the year?This is an end of the year type thread. Very similar to if I posted a thread proclaiming LT as the best RB ever after his first TD week 1.
Native
Footballguy
And INT'sHe's leading the league in tackles this season.
gorf
Footballguy
i'l take polamalu, thanks. dude is a beast.
Spartans346
Footballguy
fixedAnd INT'sHe's leading the league in tackles this season.
Max Power
Footballguy
I don't blame this questionNo doubt. But why post this thread at the VERY beginning of the year?
This is an end of the year type thread. Very similar to if I posted a thread proclaiming LT as the best RB ever after his first TD week 1.
But the pool is light on threads this time of year
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Barely got PT his rookie year and has missed games 2/3 years. Shrugs.. If he's on the field he's a beast but can he stay healthy is the question. Plays a very physical style and makes me wonder if he can hold up. We'll seeAs a football player I'll take Polamalu anyday but not over Ed Reed..
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Agreed. Reed is amazing, but Troy is flat out the best defender in the league when healthy. The last defensive player that was as much of a game changer as Polamalu was Deion Sanders in his prime. It's just unbelievable how many plays he's involved in during a game.i'l take polamalu, thanks. dude is a beast.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Although, maybe he needs to start playing a little cleaner tonight. He's really hurting the Steelers with all of these stupid penalties right now.
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Ridiculous statement IMO...When's last time Polamalu won DPOY?Agreed. Reed is amazing, but Troy is flat out the best defender in the league when healthy. The last defensive player that was as much of a game changer as Polamalu was Deion Sanders in his prime. It's just unbelievable how many plays he's involved in during a game.i'l take polamalu, thanks. dude is a beast.
Ed Reed almost and couldve won it 2x.. just saying
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
HELL NO! Nothing but a dirty cheap shot artist.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Also looks like a torn ACL 
Man In The Box
Footballguy
Nice jinx, guy.
jabarony
Footballguy
Madden strikes again!Also looks like a torn ACL
FUBAR
Footballguy
Ridiculous statement IMO...When's last time Polamalu won DPOY?Agreed. Reed is amazing, but Troy is flat out the best defender in the league when healthy. The last defensive player that was as much of a game changer as Polamalu was Deion Sanders in his prime. It's just unbelievable how many plays he's involved in during a game.i'l take polamalu, thanks. dude is a beast.
Ed Reed almost and couldve won it 2x.. just saying
Reed is an insane talent, but TP is the better all-around player.
Polamalu isn't even the best Pittsburgh safety of the last 10-15 years. 11 time pro bowler and 6 time first team AP All Pro CB/FS Rod Woodson, anyone? Dawk still has Polamalu cold, too. Steve Atwater, Rodney Harrison, Darren Sharper, and John Lynch also names worth mentioning.
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Agreed. Reed is amazing, but Troy is flat out the best defender in the league when healthy. The last defensive player that was as much of a game changer as Polamalu was Deion Sanders in his prime. It's just unbelievable how many plays he's involved in during a game.
Ridiculous statement IMO...
When's last time Polamalu won DPOY?
Ed Reed almost and couldve won it 2x.. just saying
Reed is an insane talent, but TP is the better all-around player.
HAHA.. prob. reached with my statement but I'll say.. Polamalu better all around football player but better dynamic/game changer.. no doubt REED.
Ridiculous statement IMO...
When's last time Polamalu won DPOY?
Ed Reed almost and couldve won it 2x.. just saying
Reed is an insane talent, but TP is the better all-around player.HAHA.. prob. reached with my statement but I'll say.. Polamalu better all around football player but better dynamic/game changer.. no doubt REED.
Native
Footballguy
This "Best of all time" talk is absolutely ridiculous. It always is. Lets take baby steps and work our way backward.
Is Polamalu the best safety in the league today? Id argue no, but maybe others disagree.
If yes, is he is the best safety of the decade?
If yes, Is he the best safety of his generation?
If yes, is he the best safety of the modern era?
If yes, is he the best safety of all time?
Why the need to rush to all-time absolutes? Theyre short-sighted, knee jerk reactions.
Is Polamalu the best safety in the league today? Id argue no, but maybe others disagree.
If yes, is he is the best safety of the decade?
If yes, Is he the best safety of his generation?
If yes, is he the best safety of the modern era?
If yes, is he the best safety of all time?
Why the need to rush to all-time absolutes? Theyre short-sighted, knee jerk reactions.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Almost and could've? Reed won it once and he deserved it. But let's face it, DPOY is about the flashy stats. Not that Reed didn't deserve the award, but the stats just don't fully account for everything that Troy does. Ed Reed is much more of a ballhawk than what Polamalu is, but on a per season basis, Polamalu outshines Reed in tackles, solo tackles, sacks and passes defensed. I'm not sure where to find it, but I'd bet that Polamalu also leads in tackles for loss.Ridiculous statement IMO...When's last time Polamalu won DPOY?Agreed. Reed is amazing, but Troy is flat out the best defender in the league when healthy. The last defensive player that was as much of a game changer as Polamalu was Deion Sanders in his prime. It's just unbelievable how many plays he's involved in during a game.i'l take polamalu, thanks. dude is a beast.
Ed Reed almost and couldve won it 2x.. just saying
FUBAR
Footballguy
I'll agree that he is, but there is some doubt.HAHA.. prob. reached with my statement but I'll say.. Polamalu better all around football player but better dynamic/game changer.. no doubt REED.Reed is an insane talent, but TP is the better all-around player.
Max Power
Footballguy
My response to this line of thinking is always...could players from the 60-70's compete in the game today? Which the answer is generally no. So generation? Maybe. A very stong case could be made.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I really can't put Sharper up there, although he is great. TP is in the same group as Lott, Woodson, Dawkins, Reed and Houston. Fact is, there just aren't that many elite Safeties in NFL history.
money.never.sleeps
Footballguy
Carnell Lake was very good but I guess he was more at CB.. maybe fogetting?
gnarboots11
Footballguy
dirty play on my boy chris johnson in the first and karma bites back, that knee injury does not look good.
Native
Footballguy
Dont mean to sound so curt, but are you kidding? Have you even considered the players from these - and other - generations or are you arbitrarily annointing Troy as the best ever? Here are some other names not mentioned in this discussion. Any reason we are omitting them?* Ken Houston - Widely considered the best of all time along with Lott. He played from 67-80. You dont think he could hang with modern players?* Larry Wilson - One of the biggest hitters of all time* Willie Wood - Probably more athletic than any Safety playing today* Mel Renfro - World class sprinter could cover the entire field * Paul Krause - Best ballhawk of this or any generation - all time INT leader* Brian Dawkins * Kenny Easely* Steve Atwater* Emlen Tunnel - Another guy with world class speed and tons of INT's. * Jack Christianson - Defensive leader of the great Lions dynasty in the 50'sAnd that doesnt even take guys like Lott, Woodson, Reed, etc into account. Still want to annoint him as the best EVER or should we let him finish the game first?
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I'd put Polamalu above Sharper, Lynch, and Harrison. I'd put him in a group with Atwater and Reed. I'd put him behind Dawkins, Lott, and Woodson. This is assuming a typical career arc- obviously of Polamalu picks up his play he can move up, and if he falls short of expectations he can move down.
Buckeyedawgs
Footballguy
did ronnie lott ever have 3 major penalties in first half of a season opener?
maybe fastest ever but best ever..... no way!
maybe fastest ever but best ever..... no way!
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Native said:
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Harrison's the most overrated "elite" safety in history. Two pro bowls (admittedly should have been three) and two first-team AP All Pros. Like the vast majority of Patriots (Harrison, Seymour, Bruschi, etc) from this decade, he gets dramatically overrated because of the SBs, far more than his play on the field would merit. I'd rank him on par with Sharper, and behind all of his other "elite" contemporaries (Lynch, Atwater, Dawkins, Reed, Polamalu, Woodson).
Steel Dillo
Footballguy
I just think its funny that the only people saying no way are either fans of other AFC North teams or teams the Steelers have recently beat in big games.
Hate much?
Personally, I think its way to early to make that decision.
Hate much?
Personally, I think its way to early to make that decision.
timschochet
Footballguy
Here's a prediction: both Lott and Polamalu, of course, come from USC, but neither has been the best safety at that university. The one who is, is playing there right now. His name is Taylor Mays, and he will be, I predict, the best safety ever to play in the NFL, barring injury.
most athletically gifted but not best football player...
