Poll of Middle East reveals new attitudes toward extremism (1 Viewer)

[NCCommish]

Are you completely insane? Every woman killed you create an enemy. Every child killed you create an enemy. You can't kill your way out of this and what you are suggesting is a war crime.

They are already your enemy. And no, a retaliatory strike against an enemy military target is not a war crime, and neither is defining "enemy military target" as "place that just launched a rocket strike against us".

Which part of the Gaza strip is a military base?

Oh and they aren't all your enemy. it's that kind of thinking that let's you indiscriminately kill civilians without blinking an eye.

Like I said, defining "military target" as "location from which a military attack was just launched" is entirely rational and certainly not a war crime.

In November 2012, just a month or so before his death, former IDF chief of staff Amnon Lipkin Shahak was asked to assess Operation Pillar of Defence. His response is worth quoting in full:

The operation was conducted fairly well and the result is reasonable. But that’s not the point. The point is that we must reach an agreement with the Palestinians. Without it, we will have to launch these operations again and again with similar results; and our leaders must also finally understand that in order to reach an agreement with the Palestinians we must talk and close the deal with those who are willing to talk to us and reach an agreement with us. I am referring to Abu Mazen (Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas). If, god forbid, he will leave, then we will be done for and left with their crazies and our crazies. They will finish us.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/

Bullet points/topic headings:

Middle East Concerns about Islamic Extremism Grow

Negative Views of al Qaeda Common

Boko Haram Reviled in Nigeria

Pakistanis Have No Love for Taliban

Hezbollah Disliked in Middle East

Hamas Viewed Negatively, Even in Palestinian Territories

Interesting data.

A lot of negativity there. Turn that frown upside down, Middle East.

 

[RCon]

Are you completely insane? Every woman killed you create an enemy. Every child killed you create an enemy. You can't kill your way out of this and what you are suggesting is a war crime.

They are already your enemy. And no, a retaliatory strike against an enemy military target is not a war crime, and neither is defining "enemy military target" as "place that just launched a rocket strike against us".

Which part of the Gaza strip is a military base?

Oh and they aren't all your enemy. it's that kind of thinking that let's you indiscriminately kill civilians without blinking an eye.

Like I said, defining "military target" as "location from which a military attack was just launched" is entirely rational and certainly not a war crime.

In November 2012, just a month or so before his death, former IDF chief of staff Amnon Lipkin Shahak was asked to assess Operation Pillar of Defence. His response is worth quoting in full:

The operation was conducted fairly well and the result is reasonable. But that’s not the point. The point is that we must reach an agreement with the Palestinians. Without it, we will have to launch these operations again and again with similar results; and our leaders must also finally understand that in order to reach an agreement with the Palestinians we must talk and close the deal with those who are willing to talk to us and reach an agreement with us. I am referring to Abu Mazen (Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas). If, god forbid, he will leave, then we will be done for and left with their crazies and our crazies. They will finish us.

Great. Not responsive at all to any of the posts above it, but great, I guess.

 

[Henry Ford]

http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01/concerns-about-islamic-extremism-on-the-rise-in-middle-east/

Bullet points/topic headings:

Middle East Concerns about Islamic Extremism Grow

Negative Views of al Qaeda Common

Boko Haram Reviled in Nigeria

Pakistanis Have No Love for Taliban

Hezbollah Disliked in Middle East

Hamas Viewed Negatively, Even in Palestinian Territories

Interesting data.

A lot of negativity there. Turn that frown upside down, Middle East.

The last section on suicide bombing is slightly more positive.

 

[johnnycakes]

I didn't even bother to read the links or any of the previous posts. Lemme guess... "no clear solutions?"

 

[Henry Ford]

I didn't even bother to read the links or any of the previous posts. Lemme guess... "no clear solutions?"

What?

 

[johnnycakes]

I didn't even bother to read the links or any of the previous posts. Lemme guess... "no clear solutions?"

What?

Wat??

 

[MC Gas Money]

Israel can help. They need to announce a 10 year phased withdrawal from the occupied territorities, and then negotiate a trade agreement with the Palestinian Authority. Then the United Nations needs to recognize a State of Palestine. It's time to end this mess.

Why would Israel do that? That just moves the rockets closer.

The rockets are already too close. Israel needs to have peace with the Palestinians.

They have been fighting for over 2,000 years.It cant be much longer.

 

[jon_mx]

I didn't even bother to read the links or any of the previous posts. Lemme guess... "no clear solutions?"

What?

Wat??

Where?

 

[Christo]

I thought they were all trying to kill me.

They are. The rest of us? Not so much. But you should watch your back.

 

[Christo]

This is great news. But terrorism doesn't need a lot of people to be threatening, only a few.

What we need to figure out is a way to present alternatives to these people, without appearing to be imperialistic as we did in Iraq. Countries like Egypt have huge unemployment problems. Saudis Arabia, which should be one of the wealthiest countries on Earth, is controlled by a tiny percentage of the population while the majority lives in utter destitute poverty. These conditions are the breeding ground for radicalism, extremism, fundamentalist religious beliefs and everything that goes with it.

I don't think that's correct. According to World Bank Saudi has the tenth lowest poverty rate in the world, and even the poor there probably aren't "destitute."

You may be correct. I haven't checked it recently. It's still true that in much of that part of the world, the poverty is horrible. But maybe not in Saudi anymore...

Stay gold, Ponyboy

 

[Christo]

Israel can help. They need to announce a 10 year phased withdrawal from the occupied territorities, and then negotiate a trade agreement with the Palestinian Authority. Then the United Nations needs to recognize a State of Palestine. It's time to end this mess.

Why would Israel do that? That just moves the rockets closer.

The rockets are already too close. Israel needs to have peace with the Palestinians.

They have been fighting for over 2,000 years.It cant be much longer.

Israel was established in 1948. But don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[drummer]

Rich Conway has been one busy beaver today.

 

[MC Gas Money]

Israel can help. They need to announce a 10 year phased withdrawal from the occupied territorities, and then negotiate a trade agreement with the Palestinian Authority. Then the United Nations needs to recognize a State of Palestine. It's time to end this mess.

Why would Israel do that? That just moves the rockets closer.

The rockets are already too close. Israel needs to have peace with the Palestinians.

They have been fighting for over 2,000 years.It cant be much longer.

Israel was established in 1948. But don't let the facts get in your way.

Talking about the religions