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Possible Williamson trade? (1 Viewer)

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I would be surprised if Minnesota gave up on him so early.

A sports talk radio station in Dallas this week reported the Houston Texans and Vikings are working on a trade involving receiver Troy Williamson. The Texans were interested in drafting Williamson last year and reported to be high on his potential.

http://www.startribune.com/507/story/211905.html

 
While the old regime may have been high on Williamson - there is nothing stating that the Kubiak leadership has interest in him as a WR.

 
Ridiculous trade IMO. Why not just sign Alexander or Edge and keep Williamson? There's going to be a big cap hit for both teams if this trade happens and I don't see how it helps the Vikings more than signing a FA RB.

 
Ridiculous trade IMO. Why not just sign Alexander or Edge and keep Williamson? There's going to be a big cap hit for both teams if this trade happens and I don't see how it helps the Vikings more than signing a FA RB.
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:goodposting: I'm not entirely sure Dom is much better than Moore or Fason. Certainly not TW + MM/Fason.

 
I think this move makes a ton of sense for both teams. If Houston drafts Bush, they don't need Davis as well. DD is signed to a long-term contract so they need to do something with him and Morency would be a fine change of pace back for Bush. Williamson would eventually be a great WR opposite AJ and Mathis would be a perfect number 3. This move would be good for Houston.The Vikes won't sign/obtain either SA or Edge, whether it makes sense or not. Bennett will leave in FA and SOD is too much of a risk to bring back. I don't think the Vikes like Mewelde as their main RB and I doubt they trust Fason is ready to carry the load. DD seems like a Duce, Westbrook clone and would be a perfect fit in Childress' offense. DD would also benefit from the Dome's turf, since he's so quick. At WR, the Vikings seem confident that KRob can be the WR1 they need and they'll likely sign him to a good contract this offseason. I'm sure the Vikes haven't given up on Burleson and would like him as their WR2 and FA or MRob/TT can fill in as WR3. This trade also is logical for the Vikings.This is one of those moves that makes so much sense for both teams, it would be suprising if it didn't happen.

 
I think this move makes a ton of sense for both teams.  If Houston drafts Bush, they don't need Davis as well.  DD is signed to a long-term contract so they need to do something with him and Morency would be a fine change of pace back for Bush.  Williamson would eventually be a great WR opposite AJ and Mathis would be a perfect number 3.  This move would be good for Houston.

The Vikes won't sign/obtain either SA or Edge, whether it makes sense or not.  Bennett will leave in FA and SOD is too much of a risk to bring back.  I don't think the Vikes like Mewelde as their main RB and I doubt they trust Fason is ready to carry the load.  DD seems like a Duce, Westbrook clone and would be a perfect fit in Childress' offense.  DD would also benefit from the Dome's turf, since he's so quick.  At WR, the Vikings seem confident that KRob can be the WR1 they need and they'll likely sign him to a good contract this offseason.  I'm sure the Vikes haven't given up on Burleson and would like him as their WR2 and FA or MRob/TT can fill in as WR3.  This trade also is logical for the Vikings.

This is one of those moves that makes so much sense for both teams, it would be suprising if it didn't happen.
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:no: Naaaah. The Vikes don't need another pass catching halfback that gets nicked up every other game. They need a pounder... a bruiser... a smashing back by the name of Lendale White. And if he doesn't fall to them by draft time, they go for SA or Edge.
 
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no: Naaaah. The Vikes don't need another pass catching halfback that gets nicked up every other game. They need a pounder... a bruiser... a smashing back by the name of Lendale White. And if he doesn't fall to them by draft time, they go for SA or Edge.
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I think this move makes a ton of sense for both teams. If Houston drafts Bush, they don't need Davis as well. DD is signed to a long-term contract so they need to do something with him and Morency would be a fine change of pace back for Bush. Williamson would eventually be a great WR opposite AJ and Mathis would be a perfect number 3. This move would be good for Houston.The Vikes won't sign/obtain either SA or Edge, whether it makes sense or not. Bennett will leave in FA and SOD is too much of a risk to bring back. I don't think the Vikes like Mewelde as their main RB and I doubt they trust Fason is ready to carry the load. DD seems like a Duce, Westbrook clone and would be a perfect fit in Childress' offense. DD would also benefit from the Dome's turf, since he's so quick. At WR, the Vikings seem confident that KRob can be the WR1 they need and they'll likely sign him to a good contract this offseason. I'm sure the Vikes haven't given up on Burleson and would like him as their WR2 and FA or MRob/TT can fill in as WR3. This trade also is logical for the Vikings.This is one of those moves that makes so much sense for both teams, it would be suprising if it didn't happen. I also agree this could happen, the Vikes don't want to spend what it would cost for a Edge/Alexander, Williamson not a west coast WR, and you don't want a bruser RB in the West coast system. Finally, the Vikings need to draft a LB not a RB :P

 
I can not see how Houston can afford to trade DD after giving him a big bonus last season. DD will be sharing carries with Bush in 2006.

 
I can not see how Houston can afford to trade DD after giving him a big bonus last season. DD will be sharing carries with Bush in 2006.
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You should reconsider this. They will take a 6.7 million dollar hit from Davis minus his scheduled salary, buty they would be getting a top 10 pick from last year with NO cap hit. WIlliamson, who is scheduled to get 13.5 in g. salary- is the one who could hang up this deal.
 
The trade rumor I have heard is Williamson for DD and the 1st pick in the 2nd round (33rd overall).Still I doubt the Vikings would give away a top 10 pick last year for so little. There are a ton of RBs available in the draft and through FA.

 
The only way I think this makes sense is if Williamson has already had an altercation with Childress that hasn't been reported because somebody in that front office understands how badly his value would tank if it got out. I think the guy who suggested that the Vikings sign SA or EJ if they don't get White in the draft needs to think twice about that in light of the date free agency opens and the date the draft takes place on.

 
Published Sun Jan 29 7:33:00 p.m. CT 2006 (KFFL) Sid Hartman, of the Star Tribune, reports a sports talk radio station in Dallas this week reported the Houston Texans and Minnesota Vikings are working on a trade involving WR Troy Williamson. The Texans were interested in drafting Williamson last year and reported to be high on his potential.

 
The trade rumor I have heard is Williamson for DD and the 1st pick in the 2nd round (33rd overall).

Still I doubt the Vikings would give away a top 10 pick last year for so little. There are a ton of RBs available in the draft and through FA.
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So little? I'd do this trade in a second. The Vikes get a quality back in Davis AND a second round pick! Williamson looks lost on the field and can't beat out Marcus Robinson to even crack our lineup. Lets cut our losses now on a terrible selection
 
Naaaah. The Vikes don't need another pass catching halfback that gets nicked up every other game. They need a pounder... a bruiser... a smashing back by the name of Lendale White. And if he doesn't fall to them by draft time, they go for SA or Edge.
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When was the last time the Philadelphia offense went with a pounder, bruiser, or smashing back? Childress plans on installing a similar offense in Minnesota and has already indicated he'd like a RB similar to Westbrook. Whether you agree with the philosophy or not, that is their plan. DD fits that mold perfectly.Williamson also lost some of his luster as the season went on. He's still got a ton of potential, but I wouldn't be suprised if some in the organazation that are a little worried that he won't live up to his potential (although at times, he reminds me of a young Javon Walker).So I'm not saying this is a slam dunk, but I live in Minnesota and I think this rumor has some legs because of what I've heard from Childress and the Vikes in 05.
 
Naaaah. The Vikes don't need another pass catching halfback that gets nicked up every other game. They need a pounder... a bruiser... a smashing back by the name of Lendale White. And if he doesn't fall to them by draft time, they go for SA or Edge.
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When was the last time the Philadelphia offense went with a pounder, bruiser, or smashing back? Childress plans on installing a similar offense in Minnesota and has already indicated he'd like a RB similar to Westbrook. Whether you agree with the philosophy or not, that is their plan. DD fits that mold perfectly.Williamson also lost some of his luster as the season went on. He's still got a ton of potential, but I wouldn't be suprised if some in the organazation that are a little worried that he won't live up to his potential (although at times, he reminds me of a young Javon Walker).

So I'm not saying this is a slam dunk, but I live in Minnesota and I think this rumor has some legs because of what I've heard from Childress and the Vikes in 05.
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I agree - the best course of action is to trade highly drafted WR's who run a sub 4.4 right after their rookie year.
 
The trade rumor I have heard is Williamson for DD and the 1st pick in the 2nd round (33rd overall).

Still I doubt the Vikings would give away a top 10 pick last year for so little. There are a ton of RBs available in the draft and through FA.
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So little? I'd do this trade in a second. The Vikes get a quality back in Davis AND a second round pick! Williamson looks lost on the field and can't beat out Marcus Robinson to even crack our lineup. Lets cut our losses now on a terrible selection
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While I'm not as low on TW as this, I agree. Sinorice Moss might slip to that pick, if not maybe they get lucky and land Martin Nance? Either might be better anyway - might even be worth taking in the 1st.Come to think of it, WTF would the new coach, who wants to run the ball, consider trading the only skill player who's done a dang thing on the team, for a WR prospect AND throw in a pick? Makes no sense for Houston.

 
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I'm not in the camp that sees this a a no-brainer for Houston. What exactly has Williamson done except run a nice 40 at the combine? Just because the Vikings reached for him doesn't mean that he's a great player. D. Davis has done much more on the field...

 
I must be the only one who thinks SOD is at least an option, eh? He has nice skills, better than anyone on the Vikes right now and if he were to actually "get it" he'll be a nice player to have. What's the word in minny?

 
Published Sun Jan 29 7:33:00 p.m. CT 2006

(KFFL) Sid Hartman, of the Star Tribune, reports a sports talk radio station in Dallas this week reported the Houston Texans and Minnesota Vikings are working on a trade involving WR Troy Williamson.
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So this message board has a post thatKFFL's news list a report from

a Star Tribute writer who heard a

Dallas radio station that reported

Houston and Minnesota are talking trade.

Game of Telephone, anyone?

 
I would be surprised if Minnesota gave up on him so early.

A sports talk radio station in Dallas this week reported the Houston Texans and Vikings are working on a trade involving receiver Troy Williamson. The Texans were interested in drafting Williamson last year and reported to be high on his potential.

http://www.startribune.com/507/story/211905.html
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Very unlikely. Minnesota already amortorized the majority of Troy's rookie contract. A more fair trade may be DD and Houston's #1 next season for Troy.
 
I would be surprised if Minnesota gave up on him so early.

A sports talk radio station in Dallas this week reported the Houston Texans and Vikings are working on a trade involving receiver Troy Williamson. The Texans were interested in drafting Williamson last year and reported to be high on his potential.

http://www.startribune.com/507/story/211905.html
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Very unlikely. Minnesota already amortorized the majority of Troy's rookie contract. A more fair trade may be DD and Houston's #1 next season for Troy.

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:eek:
 
Let's make this clear.If the Vikings were offered DD AND either a 1st or 2nd round pick for Williamson, they would take it in a heartbeat.No question in my mind.The likelihood of such a scenario, however, is either zero or less.Williamson is totally replaceable by any number of receivers. He is not an elite talent and the Vikings reached for him terribly.

 
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Williamson is totally replaceable by any number of receivers. He is not an elite talent and the Vikings reached for him terribly.
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:goodposting: Todd Watkins (BYU) and Jon Orr (Wisconsin) are very similar prospects and I highly doubt either even go in the first round this year, despite a weak class of WR at the top. At least the got KRob basically for free. I keep hearing that re-signing him is a top priority for the Vikes.

 
I would be surprised if Minnesota gave up on him so early.

A sports talk radio station in Dallas this week reported the Houston Texans and Vikings are working on a trade involving receiver Troy Williamson. The Texans were interested in drafting Williamson last year and reported to be high on his potential.

http://www.startribune.com/507/story/211905.html
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Very unlikely. Minnesota already amortorized the majority of Troy's rookie contract. A more fair trade may be DD and Houston's #1 next season for Troy.
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LOL, I about spit out my coffee when I read this...We are talking Troy Williamson, not Randy Moss correct?
 
Let's make this clear.

If the Vikings were offered DD AND either a 1st or 2nd round pick for Williamson, they would take it in a heartbeat.

No question in my mind.

The likelihood of such a scenario, however, is either zero or less.

Williamson is totally replaceable by any number of receivers. He is not an elite talent and the Vikings reached for him terribly.
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:yes: While speed is important, it's often overrated in the draft, and quite frankly TW hasn't shown that he has anything else. And not quite elite end speed anyway.

I won't call him a bust, but he isn't anything special.

 
I would be surprised if Minnesota gave up on him so early.

A sports talk radio station in Dallas this week reported the Houston Texans and Vikings are working on a trade involving receiver Troy Williamson. The Texans were interested in drafting Williamson last year and reported to be high on his potential.

http://www.startribune.com/507/story/211905.html
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:confused: What is wrong with the front offices of NFL franchises now adays?

Minnesota NEEDS a WR since the departure of Moss. Campbell isn't dependable and Robinson is a nice 3rd WR. Minnesota DOESN'T need ANOTHER RB! They have a nice stable of RB's and maybe if they would pick one to be the man and give him 20+ carries a game they'd have a more consistent running game.

Houston DOESN'T need another WR! They have Andre Johnson and servicable 2nd and 3rd WR's.

This rumor doesn't seem logical to me. :no:

 
Let's make this clear.

If the Vikings were offered DD AND either a 1st or 2nd round pick for Williamson, they would take it in a heartbeat.

No question in my mind.

The likelihood of such a scenario, however, is either zero or less.

Williamson is totally replaceable by any number of receivers.  He is not an elite talent and the Vikings reached for him terribly.
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:yes: While speed is important, it's often overrated in the draft, and quite frankly TW hasn't shown that he has anything else. And not quite elite end speed anyway.

I won't call him a bust, but he isn't anything special.
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Just think of where the Vikings would be if Red McCombs would have agreed to pay Antonio Pierce the signing bonus that he was worth (it was the ONLY sticking point) and then drafted either Merriman or Derrick Johnson at #7. :wall:
 
LOL, I about spit out my coffee when I read this...We are talking Troy Williamson, not Randy Moss correct?
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That is a question for Houston, not Minnesota. It appears Houston is more interested in acquire Williamson than Minnesota is interested in trading him. It all comes down to leverage, Minnesota has a commodity that Houston covets and Williamson's contract is pretty much amortorized.
 
While speed is important, it's often overrated in the draft, and quite frankly TW hasn't shown that he has anything else. And not quite elite end speed anyway.

I won't call him a bust, but he isn't anything special.
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Williamson, like most wide receivers in my eyes are replaceable. But from what I saw of Troy this year, he looks very explosive. The problem this last year was the volume of talented wide receivers the Vikings had on the roster.Burleson - Burleson had three years on Williamson to polish his skill.

K-Rob - A blue chip prospect who also had a few seasons to refine his skill.

M-Rob - A seasoned veteran.

Taylor - Another seasoned veteran.

With the exception of Randy Moss, I cannot think of another wide receiver who would not have been the 4th option their rookie year.

 
:confused: What is wrong with the front offices of NFL franchises now adays?Minnesota NEEDS a WR since the departure of Moss.
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Williamson <> a replacement for Moss.
Campbell isn't dependable and Robinson is a nice 3rd WR.
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Why are you talking about Kelly Campbell? After an down year due to injury, Burleson will be better.And Robinson came on at the end of the year proving he's more than a WR3.
Minnesota DOESN'T need ANOTHER RB! They have a nice stable of RB's and maybe if they would pick one to be the man and give him 20+ carries a game they'd have a more consistent running game.
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Yeah they do/no they don't. Bennett will be gone and Moore stays healthy less than Davis. He's not a 20+ carry a game back. Neither is Fason.
Houston DOESN'T need another WR! They have Andre Johnson and servicable 2nd and 3rd WR's.
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Their #2/3 wr's this year were tragically mediocre.
This rumor doesn't seem logical to me. :no:
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You're right, but not for the reasons you cite.
 
So this message board has a post that

KFFL's news list a report from

a Star Tribute writer who heard a

Dallas radio station that reported

Houston and Minnesota are talking trade.

Game of Telephone, anyone?
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Purple Monkey Dishwasher.Also, while I like the idea of H-town turning a 4th from a few years ago and a 2nd this year into one of last year's top 10 rooks, I don't like the reality of that top 10 player being Williamson. And giving up a decent RB before Bush even plays a down as well as a pick that high in this year's draft, which so deep in excellent offensive linemen, doesn't make sense for them.

Does Dom Davis fit the Philly mold of a shifty little pass catcher who can run between the tackles when needed? You bet. Does Troy Williamson make Ashley Lelie look like a tough, gritty veteran stud? Sadly, yes. Hopefully, he'll put it together a little more wherever he plays next year.

 
:confused:

What is wrong with the front offices of NFL franchises now adays?

Minnesota NEEDS a WR since the departure of Moss. 
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Williamson <> a replacement for Moss.
Campbell isn't dependable and Robinson is a nice 3rd WR. 
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Why are you talking about Kelly Campbell? After an down year due to injury, Burleson will be better.

And Robinson came on at the end of the year proving he's more than a WR3.

Minnesota DOESN'T need ANOTHER RB!  They have a nice stable of RB's and maybe if they would pick one to be the man and give him 20+ carries a game they'd have a more consistent running game.
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Yeah they do/no they don't. Bennett will be gone and Moore stays healthy less than Davis. He's not a 20+ carry a game back. Neither is Fason.
Houston DOESN'T need another WR!  They have Andre Johnson and servicable 2nd and 3rd WR's. 
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Their #2/3 wr's this year were tragically mediocre.
This rumor doesn't seem logical to me.  :no:
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You're right, but not for the reasons you cite.
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So after one year, you say the Vikings should just give up on Williamson who was tagged as being the best WR out of the draft last year. Moore is more of a homerun threat than DD I think. DD is a basher, but Moore is more explosive. I feel sorry for the poor guy. He's been a guarantee for 100 yards from scrimmage pretty much everytime he's played...just play the damn guy! Fason has potential as well. To be honest...Moore and DD is probably a wash in this scenario.

I don't think the problem with the Houston WR's is their ability...I think it's the quarterbacking or lack thereof...which could all be blamed on the horrible O-line play or the playcalling.

How do I apply to be a GM? :yes:

 
So after one year, you say the Vikings should just give up on Williamson who was tagged as being the best WR out of the draft last year.
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:confused: Both Edwards and Williams were pretty much universally viewed as better prospects than Williamson.They wouldn't be "giving up" on him. They'd be getting more than he's worth (if the trade was DD & a pick). They could replace TWill with lots of other guys.
Moore is more of a homerun threat than DD I think. DD is a basher, but Moore is more explosive. I feel sorry for the poor guy. He's been a guarantee for 100 yards from scrimmage pretty much everytime he's played...just play the damn guy! Fason has potential as well. To be honest...Moore and DD is probably a wash in this scenario.
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I don't agree. But that's okay.
 
With the exception of Randy Moss, I cannot think of another wide receiver who would not have been the 4th option their rookie year.
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Fitzgerald for one. Probably Braylon as well this year.Torry Holt

 
The whole Minny offense could be new in 2006. You could find a reason why everyone should be kicked to the curb and they should "start anew". Last I read the coach wanted to meet with Daunte and he refused. Now why wouldn't you want to meet the new coach?Bennett's been given how many chances to carry the team on his back?Onterrio Smith's arrest.Many here don't think Mewelde's a stud. I think he's fine but...Brad Johnson is "up there" in age.All those players in that boat scandal.We could go on and on.Williamson was expected to be a project for a year or two and NOT to be good right away. Sometimes NFL teams are impatient with their top draft picks

 
Man this thread is funny. All of the same people who where calling Williamson a "project" player last year are now giving up on him after his rookie season. :lmao:

 
Man this thread is funny. All of the same people who where calling Williamson a "project" player last year are now giving up on him after his rookie season. :lmao:
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There are some faint-hearted people.
 
I may be way off, but...If (and I stress the "if") a deal was made between Houston and Minnesota, it would be done prior to the draft. Right? (I'm asking/assuming.)If this was done, I feel it would be extremely foolish of the Texans as drafting Bush would then be an absolute MUST.Wouldn't/couldn't the agent for Bush then say "If you don't give us a 5 year, $100 million dollar contract with a $50 million dollar signing bonus, Reggie's not coming to camp"?And wouldn't there be nothing the Texans could do other than capitulate?

 
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