PPR- not taking RB until 6th Round (1 Viewer)

[prgromek]

I did this in a WCOFF satellite league (12 teams- PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1K, 1TMD)

I had the 6th pick. I actually like the way this team looks using this strategy but it's not for those that don't like risk at the RB position. But IMO it's easier to uncover late round value at RB in a PPR league and I like having a dominant WR core. Just wanted to give an example of a team that you could possibly field if you went with a strategy like this, although I've never seen Roddy White slip this far in a PPR.

QB - Kurt Warner (5.6), David Garrard (11.6), Matt Leinart (20.7)

RB- Cedric Benson (6.7), Ray Rice (7.6), Jamal Lewis (8.7), Leon Washington (10.7), Jamaal Charles (12.7), Ladell Betts (16.7)

WR - Andre Johnson (1.6), Greg Jennings (2.7), Roddy White (3.6), Braylon Edwards (4.7), Earl Bennett (13.6), Bobby Engram (15.6)

TE - Dustin Keller (9.6), Bo Scaife (17.6)

1st round - MJD, AP, Forte, Turner, CJ, AJ, Fitz, SJ, Gore, Moss, Slaton, LT

2nd round - Barber, Westbrook, Wayne, Megatron, Steve Smith, D-Will, Jennings, Jacobs, Brees, Brady, Ronnie Brown, Portis

3rd round - Marshall, Colston, Boldin, TO, Rodgers, White, Pierre Thomas, Welker, Kevin Smith, Bowe, Bush, Housh

4th round - Ward, P Manning, Witten, McFadden, R Grant, Rivers, Braylon, Roy Williams, Willie P, Ocho Cinco, Gates, V Jackson

 

[baconisgood]

I did this in a WCOFF satellite league (12 teams- PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1K, 1TMD)I had the 6th pick. I actually like the way this team looks using this strategy but it's not for those that don't like risk at the RB position. But IMO it's easier to uncover late round value at RB in a PPR league and I like having a dominant WR core. Just wanted to give an example of a team that you could possibly field if you went with a strategy like this, although I've never seen Roddy White slip this far in a PPR.QB - Kurt Warner (5.6), David Garrard (11.6), Matt Leinart (20.7)RB- Cedric Benson (6.7), Ray Rice (7.6), Jamal Lewis (8.7), Leon Washington (10.7), Jamaal Charles (12.7), Ladell Betts (16.7)WR - Andre Johnson (1.6), Greg Jennings (2.7), Roddy White (3.6), Braylon Edwards (4.7), Earl Bennett (13.6), Bobby Engram (15.6)TE - Dustin Keller (9.6), Bo Scaife (17.6)1st round - MJD, AP, Forte, Turner, CJ, AJ, Fitz, SJ, Gore, Moss, Slaton, LT2nd round - Barber, Westbrook, Wayne, Megatron, Steve Smith, D-Will, Jennings, Jacobs, Brees, Brady, Ronnie Brown, Portis3rd round - Marshall, Colston, Boldin, TO, Rodgers, White, Pierre Thomas, Welker, Kevin Smith, Bowe, Bush, Housh4th round - Ward, P Manning, Witten, McFadden, R Grant, Rivers, Braylon, Roy Williams, Willie P, Ocho Cinco, Gates, V Jackson

While I have spent a lot of time looking at RB combinations late in drafts and think there is a lot of merit there- I can't agree with going with a 4th WR in the 4th round in a 3 WR league. Value or not (and I think Edwards is value there) I would have gone RB there almost for sure.

 

[prgromek]

I did this in a WCOFF satellite league (12 teams- PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1K, 1TMD)I had the 6th pick. I actually like the way this team looks using this strategy but it's not for those that don't like risk at the RB position. But IMO it's easier to uncover late round value at RB in a PPR league and I like having a dominant WR core. Just wanted to give an example of a team that you could possibly field if you went with a strategy like this, although I've never seen Roddy White slip this far in a PPR.QB - Kurt Warner (5.6), David Garrard (11.6), Matt Leinart (20.7)RB- Cedric Benson (6.7), Ray Rice (7.6), Jamal Lewis (8.7), Leon Washington (10.7), Jamaal Charles (12.7), Ladell Betts (16.7)WR - Andre Johnson (1.6), Greg Jennings (2.7), Roddy White (3.6), Braylon Edwards (4.7), Earl Bennett (13.6), Bobby Engram (15.6)TE - Dustin Keller (9.6), Bo Scaife (17.6)1st round - MJD, AP, Forte, Turner, CJ, AJ, Fitz, SJ, Gore, Moss, Slaton, LT2nd round - Barber, Westbrook, Wayne, Megatron, Steve Smith, D-Will, Jennings, Jacobs, Brees, Brady, Ronnie Brown, Portis3rd round - Marshall, Colston, Boldin, TO, Rodgers, White, Pierre Thomas, Welker, Kevin Smith, Bowe, Bush, Housh4th round - Ward, P Manning, Witten, McFadden, R Grant, Rivers, Braylon, Roy Williams, Willie P, Ocho Cinco, Gates, V Jackson

While I have spent a lot of time looking at RB combinations late in drafts and think there is a lot of merit there- I can't agree with going with a 4th WR in the 4th round in a 3 WR league. Value or not (and I think Edwards is value there) I would have gone RB there almost for sure.

That's a fair point, but I wanted to see what would happen if I took this strategy to the extreme. There are variations to this WR early strategy. One that I like is taking a Gore, Slaton, SJ, LT in the middle of round 1 and then coming back with 3 WRs in the next 3 rounds.

 

[slayer666]

I can't agree with going with a 4th WR in the 4th round in a 3 WR league. Value or not (and I think Edwards is value there) I would have gone RB there almost for sure.

In PPR leagues, I'm a staunch SRBT is dead guy, but I agree that it would have been difficult to pass on a running back in the 4th round.

 

[Lord Fantasy]

Thanks for posting this. I'm in an auction league, but your draft picks are in line with where I'm planning on putting my (fake) dollars. I think Benson and Rice are going to outperform their ADP. Add that to your WALL of receivers and I think you're going to do awright.

Good luck.

 

[MAC_32]

You don't get points for creativity.

That said, I plan to use some hybrid of this strategy in an auction redraft league with my buddies. Buying two and probably three stud WR's and then several 4th-6th round RB's, at least three, hopefully four.

Unless you foresee another season like Brady/Moss circa 2008 you really need a top of the line RB to compete for a title and it's a lot easier to find that guy earlier rather than later.

 

[prgromek]

I also had guys like J. Norwood, F. Jackson, Felix Jones, Donald Brown on my target list but didn't get them. Obviously to make this work you have to hit on a couple of your mid round RBs

 

[two_dollars]

I play in a 1/2/3/1/1/1 PPR, and last season we had someone go WR, WR, QB, TE, WR, RB, RB, WR, RB. He ended up leading the league in points, but solely because he found Chris Johnson in the 8th, and Calvin Johnson was had in the 5th. I personally feel you really need to hit on some players for this to work, but if it does, it can be dominant. IMO it's a high risk high reward strategy. If there is value at RB I don't think you should pass it up no matter where it happens.

 

[H8fulHuck]

I also had guys like J. Norwood, F. Jackson, Felix Jones, Donald Brown on my target list but didn't get them. Obviously to make this work you have to hit on a couple of your mid round RBs

Where did Felix Jones go?

 

[Black]

QB - Kurt Warner (5.6), David Garrard (11.6), Matt Leinart (20.7)RB- Cedric Benson (6.7), Ray Rice (7.6), Jamal Lewis (8.7), Leon Washington (10.7), Jamaal Charles (12.7), Ladell Betts (16.7WR - Andre Johnson (1.6), Greg Jennings (2.7), Roddy White (3.6), Braylon Edwards (4.7), Earl Bennett (13.6), Bobby Engram (15.6)TE - Dustin Keller (9.6), Bo Scaife (17.6)1st round - MJD, AP, Forte, Turner, CJ, AJ, Fitz, SJ, Gore, Moss, Slaton, LT2nd round - Barber, Westbrook, Wayne, Megatron, Steve Smith, D-Will, Jennings, Jacobs, Brees, Brady, Ronnie Brown, Portis3rd round - Marshall, Colston, Boldin, TO, Rodgers, White, Pierre Thomas, Welker, Kevin Smith, Bowe, Bush, Housh4th round - Ward, P Manning, Witten, McFadden, R Grant, Rivers, Braylon, Roy Williams, Willie P, Ocho Cinco, Gates, V Jackson

It's easy to be Monday Morning QB here, but I might have gone Peyton or Rivers in the 4th (unless that's the exact order of the 4th there) or an RB like McFadden, LJ, Donald Brown, then tried for an AGonzalez, LMoore, LEvans, E.Royale (w/cheese) in the 5th.I think with Warner staring you in the face in the 5th of a 12 teamer, it's hard to walk away from, as would be Peyton in the 4th.I like the Warner/Gerrard combo and late, late Leinart handcuff. It's a good team.What other RBs did you have besides Cedric left at 6.7?

 

[H8fulHuck]

I play in a 1/2/3/1/1/1 PPR, and last season we had someone go WR, WR, QB, TE, WR, RB, RB, WR, RB. He ended up leading the league in points, but solely because he found Chris Johnson in the 8th, and Calvin Johnson was had in the 5th. I personally feel you really need to hit on some players for this to work, but if it does, it can be dominant. IMO it's a high risk high reward strategy. If there is value at RB I don't think you should pass it up no matter where it happens.

Constructing a dominant team when using the stud RB theory usually requires hitting big in the mid/late rounds plus FA too. The key is to mine the gold at the right time of your draft. Example, last year I drafted Warner as my #3 QB with the intention of starting him over the others from week 1 because of his ADP.The "trick" is to figure out which players you feel will excel that can be had later becuase they are undervalued for whatever reason. If you can find the stud RB later, then go WR/QB/TE early. In the past, I've personally been better at finding great WR value later. Problem is you have to be prepared in case someone pulls the trigger on your target players late. Your draft will blow up in your face if Benson and Rice go in the two picks before you without an ace up your sleve. It's much safer to get your RB early so you aren't left high and dry.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I think you will enjoy a thread I put up today. I very much support the idea of waiting some at RB this year although I think you have to fire 1 bullet before the 6th round...maybe at least 1 RB in either the 3rd or 4th that you can hang your hat on. But there is a lot of talent at RB this season.

 

[prgromek]

I also had guys like J. Norwood, F. Jackson, Felix Jones, Donald Brown on my target list but didn't get them. Obviously to make this work you have to hit on a couple of your mid round RBs

Where did Felix Jones go?

Felix went at 5.4....earliest I've seen him go this year

 

[prgromek]

QB - Kurt Warner (5.6), David Garrard (11.6), Matt Leinart (20.7)RB- Cedric Benson (6.7), Ray Rice (7.6), Jamal Lewis (8.7), Leon Washington (10.7), Jamaal Charles (12.7), Ladell Betts (16.7WR - Andre Johnson (1.6), Greg Jennings (2.7), Roddy White (3.6), Braylon Edwards (4.7), Earl Bennett (13.6), Bobby Engram (15.6)TE - Dustin Keller (9.6), Bo Scaife (17.6)1st round - MJD, AP, Forte, Turner, CJ, AJ, Fitz, SJ, Gore, Moss, Slaton, LT2nd round - Barber, Westbrook, Wayne, Megatron, Steve Smith, D-Will, Jennings, Jacobs, Brees, Brady, Ronnie Brown, Portis3rd round - Marshall, Colston, Boldin, TO, Rodgers, White, Pierre Thomas, Welker, Kevin Smith, Bowe, Bush, Housh4th round - Ward, P Manning, Witten, McFadden, R Grant, Rivers, Braylon, Roy Williams, Willie P, Ocho Cinco, Gates, V Jackson

It's easy to be Monday Morning QB here, but I might have gone Peyton or Rivers in the 4th (unless that's the exact order of the 4th there) or an RB like McFadden, LJ, Donald Brown, then tried for an AGonzalez, LMoore, LEvans, E.Royale (w/cheese) in the 5th.I think with Warner staring you in the face in the 5th of a 12 teamer, it's hard to walk away from, as would be Peyton in the 4th.I like the Warner/Gerrard combo and late, late Leinart handcuff. It's a good team.What other RBs did you have besides Cedric left at 6.7?

yep, that's the exact order of the 4th but if Peyton or Rivers would've been there that would have been a solid pick too.I took Benson at 6.7 and Rice at 7.6. No RB was taken between those two picks (hard to believe but there was a TE and WR run along with a couple QBs. Instead of Benson and Rice I could have had J. Stewart, Lendale White, Sproles, Julius Jones. I took Jamal Lewis at 8.7 over Norwood (probably could/should have pulled the trigger on Norwood here), Fred Jackson, L. McCoy, Chester Taylor, Mendenhall, Bradshaw, McGahee.Thought about trying to pair Rice with McGahee but waited 1 round too long on that.

 

[H8fulHuck]

I think you will enjoy a thread I put up today. I very much support the idea of waiting some at RB this year although I think you have to fire 1 bullet before the 6th round...maybe at least 1 RB in either the 3rd or 4th that you can hang your hat on. But there is a lot of talent at RB this season.

I enjoy your RB analysis and respect your opinions MoP. We tend to agree on many RB situations. Since the first ADP stats have surfaced, this year appears to be a good one to verge from the stud RB theory despite some staffers voicing their disagreement.

 

[H8fulHuck]

I also had guys like J. Norwood, F. Jackson, Felix Jones, Donald Brown on my target list but didn't get them. Obviously to make this work you have to hit on a couple of your mid round RBs

Where did Felix Jones go?

Felix went at 5.4....earliest I've seen him go this year

Thank you. I think he's going to be special, but taking him in the 5th is passing on too much value. Someone has a big mancrush!

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I'd have liked this better if you landed McGahee to go with Rice. One of them should have RB2 value IMO. Was he available in the 8th?

 

[prgromek]

I'd have liked this better if you landed McGahee to go with Rice. One of them should have RB2 value IMO. Was he available in the 8th?

Yeah, I could have had McGahee in the 8th. I took Jamal Lewis instead. I could have had McGahee in the 9th too, but I wanted either Dustin Keller or Zach Miller at TE and felt neither would make it back to me, so I went Keller in the 9th. If I had to do it over again, I probably would take Norwood or McGahee in the 8th over Jamal Lewis.

 

[TwinTurbo]

It's an interesting strategy but I really don't like the way your team turned out. You have 4 WR that are good and 3 of them finished top 10 in 2008. But I doubt that happens again. And only Braylon was top 10 in 2007.

First you passed on Fitz at 1.6 to draft AJ. Then your #1 RB is Benson who doesn't rack up many receptions and is not the greatest PPR material. Looking back at your draft, I would have selected Portis instead of Jennings in Round 2. I do think Roddy and Braylon in rounds 3/4 were great picks.

But I just like Fitz, Portis, Roddy, Braylon a lot better than AJ, Jennings, Roddy, Braylon.

 

[prgromek]

It's an interesting strategy but I really don't like the way your team turned out. You have 4 WR that are good and 3 of them finished top 10 in 2008. But I doubt that happens again. And only Braylon was top 10 in 2007. First you passed on Fitz at 1.6 to draft AJ. Then your #1 RB is Benson who doesn't rack up many receptions and is not the greatest PPR material. Looking back at your draft, I would have selected Portis instead of Jennings in Round 2. I do think Roddy and Braylon in rounds 3/4 were great picks. But I just like Fitz, Portis, Roddy, Braylon a lot better than AJ, Jennings, Roddy, Braylon.

Good points. I agree on Benson, I'm really not a big fan but took him because he's a clear #1 RB at this point in time. Benson and Lewis are not good PPR backs, so I tried to cover my rear by taking fliers on Leon Washington and Jamaal Charles later (both have PPR upside). I would have liked to have landed either Norwood or Fred Jackson.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Another RB that could be had late, that should get a fair amount of carries and DOES get receptions is Larry Johnson. I'm in with the later value RBs.

 

[Jail]

That's a fair point, but I wanted to see what would happen if I took this strategy to the extreme. There are variations to this WR early strategy. One that I like is taking a Gore, Slaton, SJ, LT in the middle of round 1 and then coming back with 3 WRs in the next 3 rounds.

I like the idea of taking a 3 down back in the first followed by 3 WR. There are so few 3DB I think you have to take a chance on one even if you whiff. I know I'd like your team much more with Gore, SJ or LT as your RB1 and the next 3 WR you took(of course, that is with hindsight). FWIW I don't think you made a mistake taking Edwards in the 4th. He's still a starting spot on your roster so value is value. If you took a RB at that spot it wouldn't have been the best value.

 

[radballs]

I don't think your team turned out too badly given your strategy, but your WR depth isn't very good after the top 4. Like someone else said, you don't really have pass catching RBs even though they should get a lot of time on the field. I don't mind going WR heavy but I like to hang my hat on one stud RB who gets receptions in either rounds 1 or 2. But, I could easily see going WR with 3 of your first 4 or 4 of your first 5 picks. The Warner pick seems a little greedy, in that, if you're going to go crazy on WRs in this format, you better be hitting RBs and maybe a TE (although I do like where you got Keller) and wait much later on QB.

One other note: This time of year everyone seems to say that the RB depth is incredible this year and that starters are falling really late. Same thing has been said over the last two years (although not nearly as much as this year due to some really late RBs doing well last year and some incredible WR production). That said, I think what you will see over the next 6 weeks is that RBs in general will start moving up draftboards significantly as camp battles get a little more sorted out. It will be much more difficult to get starting RBs in the 6th round and later a week into September than you can get them now. Just my two cents.

 

[radballs]

One other thing to consider: just remember that mocks are just that. Even in WCOFF mocks with other potential or actual competitors, some people try "different" strategies because it's not the real deal. That can greatly skew team makeup decisions even if it doesn't change the ADP of most of the players.

 

[Novice2]

WR - Andre Johnson (1.6), WtF was Fitz took 1.5 or you just want to be hey look me!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Greg Jennings (2.7), Nice

Roddy White (3.6), Really? No RB fall? Come on

Braylon Edwards (4.7), You really don't have a RB on your roster?

Earl Bennett (13.6), Bobby Engram (15.6) Im sorry

Maybe im not drafting against elite talent like people in these drafts but i have been able to land 5 #1 WR's and have either Rice or Benson as my # 3 RB

I like both of them but i am not betting on them as my year long 1 and 2 RB.

 

[Multiple Scores]

I did something similiar, but not as extreme in a phenoms league. Start 1QB, 1RB, 2WR,1TE and 2 flex. This league is 1 pt PPR for WR/TE and only 0.5 pt PPR for RB. I like how the team looks on paper. Just 3 more rounds left to draft right now.

1.05 Multiple Scoregasms Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR

2.08 Multiple Scoregasms Smith, Steve CAR WR

3.05 Multiple Scoregasms Brady, Tom NEP QB

4.08 Multiple Scoregasms McFadden, Darren OAK RB

5.05 Multiple Scoregasms Royal, Eddie DEN WR

6.05 Multiple Scoregasms Wells, Chris ARI RB

7.11 Multiple Scoregasms Rice, Ray BAL RB

8.02 Multiple Scoregasms Cutler, Jay CHI QB

9.08 Multiple Scoregasms Carlson, John SEA TE

10.08 Multiple Scoregasms Giants, New York NYG DEF

11.05 Multiple Scoregasms Smith, Steve NYG WR

12.08 Multiple Scoregasms Morgan, Josh SFO WR

13.05 Multiple Scoregasms Miller, Heath PIT TE

14.08 Multiple Scoregasms Bush, Michael OAK RB

15.05 Multiple Scoregasms Delhomme, Jake CAR QB

 

[JAA]

I like your strat if you could start 1 RB 4 WR, but not in a start 2 RB. Your issue will be RB depth. My take is this will be a boom or bust team.

 

[prgromek]

I don't think your team turned out too badly given your strategy, but your WR depth isn't very good after the top 4. Like someone else said, you don't really have pass catching RBs even though they should get a lot of time on the field. I don't mind going WR heavy but I like to hang my hat on one stud RB who gets receptions in either rounds 1 or 2. But, I could easily see going WR with 3 of your first 4 or 4 of your first 5 picks. The Warner pick seems a little greedy, in that, if you're going to go crazy on WRs in this format, you better be hitting RBs and maybe a TE (although I do like where you got Keller) and wait much later on QB.One other note: This time of year everyone seems to say that the RB depth is incredible this year and that starters are falling really late. Same thing has been said over the last two years (although not nearly as much as this year due to some really late RBs doing well last year and some incredible WR production). That said, I think what you will see over the next 6 weeks is that RBs in general will start moving up draftboards significantly as camp battles get a little more sorted out. It will be much more difficult to get starting RBs in the 6th round and later a week into September than you can get them now. Just my two cents.

I was thinking pretty much the same thing, I was targeting a stud TE in round 5 and planning to wait on QB, but Tony Gonzalez was taken a few picks before me, so I decided to wait on TE (hoping to get either Keller or Miller later) but I figured the upside was too great with Warner to pass up (I'm already taking on a lot of risk with this strategy so might as well shoot for the moon)

 

[REDRUM26]

Going hard and heavy on WR's early in a PPR is fine to me and Ive won leagues that way .. But going 4 consecutively in this case wasn't necessary. Instead of taking Braylon in the 4th I would of went the best RB available in that rd... BUT the beauty of Fantasy is that every style, team , strategy can be debated and works.

 

[fourd]

WR - Andre Johnson (1.6), WtF was Fitz took 1.5 or you just want to be hey look me!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Greg Jennings (2.7), Nice

Roddy White (3.6), Really? No RB fall? Come on

Braylon Edwards (4.7), You really don't have a RB on your roster?

Earl Bennett (13.6), Bobby Engram (15.6) Im sorry

Maybe im not drafting against elite talent like people in these drafts but i have been able to land 5 #1 WR's and have either Rice or Benson as my # 3 RB

I like both of them but i am not betting on them as my year long 1 and 2 RB.

Why not? They were virtually identical last year and I don't see AJ falling off. That's hardly a shocker.

 

[Darko M]

I did this in a WCOFF satellite league (12 teams- PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1K, 1TMD)I had the 6th pick. I actually like the way this team looks using this strategy but it's not for those that don't like risk at the RB position. But IMO it's easier to uncover late round value at RB in a PPR league and I like having a dominant WR core. Just wanted to give an example of a team that you could possibly field if you went with a strategy like this, although I've never seen Roddy White slip this far in a PPR.QB - Kurt Warner (5.6), David Garrard (11.6), Matt Leinart (20.7)RB- Cedric Benson (6.7), Ray Rice (7.6), Jamal Lewis (8.7), Leon Washington (10.7), Jamaal Charles (12.7), Ladell Betts (16.7)WR - Andre Johnson (1.6), Greg Jennings (2.7), Roddy White (3.6), Braylon Edwards (4.7), Earl Bennett (13.6), Bobby Engram (15.6)TE - Dustin Keller (9.6), Bo Scaife (17.6)1st round - MJD, AP, Forte, Turner, CJ, AJ, Fitz, SJ, Gore, Moss, Slaton, LT2nd round - Barber, Westbrook, Wayne, Megatron, Steve Smith, D-Will, Jennings, Jacobs, Brees, Brady, Ronnie Brown, Portis3rd round - Marshall, Colston, Boldin, TO, Rodgers, White, Pierre Thomas, Welker, Kevin Smith, Bowe, Bush, Housh4th round - Ward, P Manning, Witten, McFadden, R Grant, Rivers, Braylon, Roy Williams, Willie P, Ocho Cinco, Gates, V Jackson

I think your team is horrible because you didn't get any studs (or potential studs) on the cheap. AJ went a round later last year, Jennings went in the 6th last year, I remember taking Braylon pretty late in '07...and Warner went past the 10th round last year. The players you selected have no value at where you selected them, and your RBs need the guy in front of them to go down to be elite. Teams that win almost always find value late in the draft: Chris Johnson last year, Philip Rivers...year before Moss was a steal in the 3rd...I could go on and on. You paid the absolute most for your receivers and your QB, and your RBs are horrible imo.

 

[B. Nugget]

I think that team is going to be solid and will compete because of the strength of your WRs, but the thing that I can't imagine myself doing in a re-draft is not taking a RB with a top 6-7 pick because you know you are going to get a top 10 WR on the way back and possibly 2 of them by your 3rd pick.

I mean, everybody has preferences of players they like or don't like, but thrown Gore, JAX. LT or Slaton in there to anchor your RBs and you still could have had a roster with 3 great/good WRs and a much more balanced team to build on in those mid rounds for RB depth.

 

[Birdie048]

I think your team is horrible because you didn't get any studs (or potential studs) on the cheap. AJ went a round later last year, Jennings went in the 6th last year, I remember taking Braylon pretty late in '07...and Warner went past the 10th round last year. The players you selected have no value at where you selected them, and your RBs need the guy in front of them to go down to be elite. Teams that win almost always find value late in the draft: Chris Johnson last year, Philip Rivers...year before Moss was a steal in the 3rd...I could go on and on. You paid the absolute most for your receivers and your QB, and your RBs are horrible imo.

While I am curious how this plan will work out long term (full season), I think DarkO has a valid point. In order for this strategy to be successful, there needs to be some "gems" unearthed - Players who perform well above their ADP. A few are listed above, but the concept is accurate. Winning is not about paying current value for a player, it's about finding good value. Maybe Benson & Rice will be good value for their draft slots, but it's doubtful they will exceed their value. Who on your roster will exceed their ADP? AJ at 1.06 is tough to consider plus Jennings & White have just as much a chance to under-perform. Maybe Earl Bennett, Jamal Lewis and Ladell Betts are your sleepers. I don't know if this will win for OP, but I think it will not be won or lost on the first 6 rounds. It will be decided by the gems he can uncover and get to over-perform their ADP.

 

[prgromek]

I understand what Darko M is saying and it's possible I screwed the pooch with this approach. I'm starting to like the mid first round RB and then 3 WRs better. I guess what I'm struggling with this year is the group of mid-round WRs. I see a lot of guys that look alike to me and it's hard to distinguish between them. I see a strong top tier but a drop off after that. If I can get 2-3 elite WRs on my team in a PPR I think that puts me ahead of the game. Now it's also possible that I just didn't get the right sleeper RBs in rounds 6-10 this time. I guess I like my chances at finding late round RB value vs. guessing right on the mid-tier WRs this year.

 

[Ace08]

Just a thought....

Most of my money leagues are PPR as well and I won 2 of my leagues last year by incorporating a strategy similar to what the OP suggested...just not as extreme. 3 out of my top 4 picks were WR's...the difference is took a good Rb in the second round (Portis) after going WR in the first.

The point is....I don't think taking AJ or Fitz in the middle of the first is necessarily a bad move in a PPR because I really think there will be a good RB there in the second and 3rd rounds. By taking 1 RB in the first 3 rounds you really only have to worry about 1 of your "gambles" panning out at RB and your core is pretty much set.

Unless I get a top 3 pick....I fully intend on going WR-WR-RB (A Pierre Thomas/Kevin Smith/Ronnie Brown type)- WR with my first 4 picks. I'd probably take a good tight end in the 5th and then take my 2nd RB in the 6th (Benson type) and then take my QB in the 7th.

Obviously I'm flexible and I never "lock" myself into a specific pattern but that above is my general guideline this year assuming things fall as they should during the draft.

 

[baconisgood]

I understand what Darko M is saying and it's possible I screwed the pooch with this approach. I'm starting to like the mid first round RB and then 3 WRs better. I guess what I'm struggling with this year is the group of mid-round WRs. I see a lot of guys that look alike to me and it's hard to distinguish between them. I see a strong top tier but a drop off after that. If I can get 2-3 elite WRs on my team in a PPR I think that puts me ahead of the game. Now it's also possible that I just didn't get the right sleeper RBs in rounds 6-10 this time. I guess I like my chances at finding late round RB value vs. guessing right on the mid-tier WRs this year.

The reason you can't see much difference between mid round receivers is that there usually isn't any. I only have non ppr stats but they will do- last year Welker was 20th in non ppr with 137 pts- you don't get a full pt/game difference until receiver number 12 Vincent jackson at 158 total points. This happens pretty much every year- there are 5-8 receivers seperated by 10-15 total points.

 

[jurb26]

4th round - Ward, P Manning, Witten, McFadden, R Grant, Rivers, Braylon, Roy Williams, Willie P, Ocho Cinco, Gates, V Jackson

I'm pretty glad you posted this because if anything, it shows me that there is serious value in the 4th round.JMO but you're going to seriously regret not picking McFadden in a PPR league after already having 3 WRs.

 

[prgromek]

4th round - Ward, P Manning, Witten, McFadden, R Grant, Rivers, Braylon, Roy Williams, Willie P, Ocho Cinco, Gates, V Jackson

I'm pretty glad you posted this because if anything, it shows me that there is serious value in the 4th round.JMO but you're going to seriously regret not picking McFadden in a PPR league after already having 3 WRs.

I like McFadden too, but he was gone at my pick in the 4th. Ward was pick 4.1, Manning 4.2, etc. It would have been hard not to pick either McFadden, Grant, or Ward in the 4th.

 

[JKL]

I dont mind the idea, not as crazy about the specific execution. I think you should have tried to pair RB's from the same team to find value, and probably need to do so earlier than the 6th. What I mean by this is that you should have absolutely taken McGahee once you had Rice. Maybe a Parker/Mendenhall pairing. For many of those type pairs, other than Baltimore, you would have had to go in the 4th rather than Edwards. Yours is far more a boom or bust strategy, where you appear to have upside, but could end up with no options at RB.

I wrote about something similar in a thread last year, and if you had paired either Tennessee or Carolina last year (and the ADP's were in the same range), along with going QB/WR heavy early, you would have likely done well.

 

[prgromek]

Appreciate all the comments on how I faired in my initial attempt using this strategy. I may try this again, either going RB in the 1st round or tweaking my strategy for grabbing RBs in rounds 5-10

 

[North]

I did this in a WCOFF satellite league (12 teams- PPR, start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1K, 1TMD)I had the 6th pick. I actually like the way this team looks using this strategy but it's not for those that don't like risk at the RB position. But IMO it's easier to uncover late round value at RB in a PPR league and I like having a dominant WR core. Just wanted to give an example of a team that you could possibly field if you went with a strategy like this, although I've never seen Roddy White slip this far in a PPR.QB - Kurt Warner (5.6), David Garrard (11.6), Matt Leinart (20.7)RB- Cedric Benson (6.7), Ray Rice (7.6), Jamal Lewis (8.7), Leon Washington (10.7), Jamaal Charles (12.7), Ladell Betts (16.7)WR - Andre Johnson (1.6), Greg Jennings (2.7), Roddy White (3.6), Braylon Edwards (4.7), Earl Bennett (13.6), Bobby Engram (15.6)TE - Dustin Keller (9.6), Bo Scaife (17.6)1st round - MJD, AP, Forte, Turner, CJ, AJ, Fitz, SJ, Gore, Moss, Slaton, LT2nd round - Barber, Westbrook, Wayne, Megatron, Steve Smith, D-Will, Jennings, Jacobs, Brees, Brady, Ronnie Brown, Portis3rd round - Marshall, Colston, Boldin, TO, Rodgers, White, Pierre Thomas, Welker, Kevin Smith, Bowe, Bush, Housh4th round - Ward, P Manning, Witten, McFadden, R Grant, Rivers, Braylon, Roy Williams, Willie P, Ocho Cinco, Gates, V Jackson

Looks good but I would have reached for Grant in the 4th rather tan taking Edwards. At that point you had 3 quality receivers and no RB's on your team. Grant even though his production dropped last year he still was one of 10 RB's who averaged over 18 carries a game last season. Much more upside that J Lewis or Rice because he isn't really sharing.Nice job though.