Pre-Draft Rookie Skill Position Rankings 2010 (1 Viewer)

[zadok]

I didn't see last years excellent thread (here) recreated for 2010, so here it is.

List your rankings before Thursday night, if you dare...

 

[zadok]

* = value as returner

QB

1. S. Bradford

2. J. Clausen

3. T. Tebow

4. T. Pike

5. C. McCoy

6. D. LeFevour

7. J. Skelton

8. L. Brown

9. Z. Robinson

10. S. Canfield

RB

1. J. Best

2. CJ Spiller*

3. T. Gerhart

4. R. Matthews

5. M. Hardesty

6. D. McCluster (WR)*

7. J. Dwyer

8. L. Blount

9. J. McKnight

10. B. Tate

11. J. Starks

12. S. Johnson

WR

1. D. Bryant*

2. A. Benn*

3. D. Thomas

4. M. Gilyard*

5. G. Tate*

6. E. Decker

7. B. LaFell

8. J. Shipley*

9. R. Cooper

10. D. Williams

11. M. Williams

12. J. Ford

13. E. Sanders*

14. A. Roberts

15. D. Briscoe

16. C. Mitchell

17. J. Williams

18. D. Alexander

19. A. Edwards (QB)

20. T. Price

21. B. White

TE

1. J. Gresham

2. R. Gronkowski

3. T. Moeaki

4. A. Hernandez

5. E. Dickson

 

[Holland Freeze]

Nice job z'doc.

I'm higher on McCoy and Tebow than you and have never been won over by Clausen

1. S. Bradford

2. C. McCoy

3. T. Tebow

4. J. Clausen

I guess I'm more conventional keeping Spiller at the top of the list and buying into Mathews chances. I just have not been convinced Hardesty will hold up. I have been flipping back and forth on Dwyer and Gerhart and would probably have McC with the WRs

1. CJ Spiller

2. R. Mathews

3. J. Best

4a. T. Gerhart

4b. J. Dwyer

6. D. McCluster (WR)*

7. M. Hardesty

8. L. Blount

9. J. McKnight

10. B. Tate

Not a Gilyard fan yet - could change depending on where he goes and how he is used. Once you get pas the 1st 1/2 dozen + I would probably shift focus more to situations as they all have different +/-'s

1. D. Bryant

2. A. Benn

3. D. Thomas

4. M. Tate

5. M. Gilyard

6. E. Decker

7. B. LaFell

8. J. Shipley

9. D. Briscoe

10. D. Williams

11. M. Williams

12. J. Ford

13. A Roberts

14. R. Cooper

15. E. Sanders

16. C. Mitchell

17. J. Williams

18. D. Alexander

19. A. Edwards (QB)

20. T. Price

21. B. White

I would give Hernandez a small bump up but have Moeaki/Dickson close together.

1. J. Gresham

2. R. Gronkowski

3. A. Hernandez

4. T. Moeaki

5. E. Dickson

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

* = value as returnerQB1. S. Bradford2. J. Clausen3. T. Tebow4. McCoy5. LeFevour6. Pike7. J. Skelton 8. L. Brown9. Z. Robinson10. S. CanfieldRB1. Mathews2. CJ Spiller*3. Best 4. Gerhart5. Dwyer6. D. McCluster (WR)*7. Hardesty8. L. Blount9. J. McKnight10. B. Tate11. J. Starks12. S. JohnsonWR1. D. Bryant*2. A. Benn*3. D. Thomas 4. Tate5. D. Williams6. E. Decker7. Roberts8. J. Shipley*9. R. Cooper10. Gilyard11. M. Williams12. J. Ford13. E. Sanders*14. LaFell15. D. Briscoe16. C. Mitchell17. J. Williams18. D. Alexander19. A. Edwards (QB)20. T. Price21. B. WhiteTE1. J. Gresham2. Hernandez3. Gronkowski4. Dickson5.

Updated

 

[gandalas]

QB

1. S. Bradford

2. J. Clausen

3. McCoy

4. T. Tebow

5. LeFevour

6. Pike

7. J. Skelton

8. L. Brown

9. Z. Robinson

10. S. Canfield

RB

1. Mathews

2. CJ Spiller*

3. Best

4. Gerhart

5. Dwyer

6. D. McCluster (WR)*

7. Hardesty

8. L. Blount

9. J. McKnight

10. B. Tate

11. J. Starks

12. S. Johnson

WR

1. D. Bryant*

2. D. Thomas

3. A. Benn*

4. Tate

5. D. Williams

6. E. Decker

7. Roberts

8. J. Shipley*

9. R. Cooper

10. Gilyard

11. M. Williams

12. J. Ford

13. E. Sanders*

14. LaFell

15. D. Briscoe

16. C. Mitchell

17. J. Williams

18. D. Alexander

19. A. Edwards (QB)

20. T. Price

21. B. White

TE

1. J. Gresham

2. Hernandez

3. Gronkowski

4. Dickson

 

[Donsmith753]

This is subject to change.

QB

1 Sam Bradford

2 Jimmy Clausen

3 Dan LeFevour

4 Jonathan Crompton

5 Tim Tebow

RB

1 Ryan Matthews

2 Jahvid Best

3 Anthony Dixon

4 Montario Hardesty

5 C.J. Spiller

6 Jonathan Dwyer

7 Toby Gerhart

8 Joe McKnight

9 Dexter McCluster

10 Roy Upchurch

WR

1 Dez Bryant

2 Damian Williams

3 Andre Roberts

4 Arrellious Benn

5 Golden Tate

6 Demaryius Thomas

7 Eric Decker

8 Blair White

9 Jordan Shipley

10 Chris McGaha

TE

1 Aaron Hernandez

2 Jermaine Gresham

3 Anthony McCoy

4 Garrett Graham

5 Dennis Pitta

 

[zadok]

I'm higher on McCoy and Tebow than you and have never been won over by Clausen

I like McCoy a lot, but can't get over his lack of arm strength. Clausen is "pro ready" as they say, and some GM will think he is his franchise QB, so he'll get every chance to succeed, even if he is an inferior talent.

I guess I'm more conventional keeping Spiller at the top of the list and buying into Mathews chances. I just have not been convinced Hardesty will hold up. I have been flipping back and forth on Dwyer and Gerhart and would probably have McC with the WRs

I really like Hardesty, I wanted to put him above Matthews and Gerhart but their eye-popping production desuaded me. I have Gerhart the edge over Matthews due to the caliber of defenses they each faced. I also don't see how McCluster can be a RB in the NFL. Dwyer is a giant tease IMO. The holes he had to run through were gigantic. All he had to do most of the time was run fast.

Not a Gilyard fan yet - could change depending on where he goes and how he is used. Once you get pas the 1st 1/2 dozen + I would probably shift focus more to situations as they all have different +/-'s

True. I'll be keeping a close eye on Reilly Cooper though. And damned if I didn't almost make Benn my #1. Just imagine Bryant with Juice Williams as his QB and Benn with Zac Robinson... RE: Gilyard, I loved watching last year. He plays so smooth and effortless, like he hasn't even been challenged yet.

I would give Hernandez a small bump up but have Moeaki/Dickson close together.

All I know that Moeaki was a killer when he wasn't injured. I think someone will be a real bargain with him.

 

[MAC_32]

How do you guys do this without knowing when and where players go? I find that I end up scrapping my entire rankings sheet anytime I even try, so that's why I spend most of my draft prep time scouting and creating those types of rankings instead of something like this. I think it's easier to make post draft rankings when I merge my scouting rankings with when/where players were drafted than make predraft rankings.

 

[zadok]

Because it shows how you like players beforehand and not just after they fall into situations. The cream always rises.

 

[MAC_32]

Because it shows how you like players beforehand and not just after they fall into situations. The cream always rises.

Close enough to what I already did, so I'll just link to minehttp://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=528923

 

[deadstick]

QB

Sam Bradford

Jimmy Clausen

Dan LeFevour

Tony Pike

Jonathan Crompton

Tim Tebow

Colt McCoy

Levi Brown

Jarrett Brown

Zac Robinson

RB

Ryan Mathews

CJ Spiller

Jahvid Best

Jonathan Dwyer

Toby Gerhart

Montario Hardesty

Dexter McCluster (RB/WR)

Anthony Dixon

LeGarrette Blount

Joique Bell

Ben Tate

Joe McKnight

Shanbrey McNeal

James Starks

Curtis Steele

WR

Dez Bryant

Arrelious Benn

Golden Tate

Damian Williams

Demaryius Thomas

Andre Roberts

Mardy Gilyard

Eric Decker

Emmanuel Sanders

Riley Cooper

Blair White

Brandon LaFell

Jeremy Williams

Jordan Shipley

Chris McGaha

Taylor Price

Scott Long

Dezmon Briscoe

Carlton Mitchell

Seyi Ajirotutu

TE

Aaron Hernandez

Jermaine Grisham

Rob Gronkowski

Garrett Graham

Anthony McCoy

Dennis Pitta

Jimmy Graham

Ed Dickson

Tony Moeaki

Dorin Dickerson

 

[deadstick]

Because it shows how you like players beforehand and not just after they fall into situations. The cream always rises.

Exactly, after the draft I adjust my rankings - knowing what I thought of them from a skill standpoint, without taking into consideration their current team position, allows the "cream to rise". If SD takes Anthony Dixon, he will rise from #8 on my list - but I need to be mindful of putting him ahead of guys like Mathews, Spiller, Best and Dwyer. There's lots of examples of guys drafted into poor positions (like Ray Rice, with McGahee there; Mendenhall, with FWP there) - in dynasty, it's important to obtain talent more than situation for the long-haul.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Because it shows how you like players beforehand and not just after they fall into situations. The cream always rises.

Exactly, after the draft I adjust my rankings - knowing what I thought of them from a skill standpoint, without taking into consideration their current team position, allows the "cream to rise". If SD takes Anthony Dixon, he will rise from #8 on my list - but I need to be mindful of putting him ahead of guys like Mathews, Spiller, Best and Dwyer. There's lots of examples of guys drafted into poor positions (like Ray Rice, with McGahee there; Mendenhall, with FWP there) - in dynasty, it's important to obtain talent more than situation for the long-haul.

I prefer to call this the "Eric Shelton Effect."

 

[zadok]

Because it shows how you like players beforehand and not just after they fall into situations. The cream always rises.

Exactly, after the draft I adjust my rankings - knowing what I thought of them from a skill standpoint, without taking into consideration their current team position, allows the "cream to rise". If SD takes Anthony Dixon, he will rise from #8 on my list - but I need to be mindful of putting him ahead of guys like Mathews, Spiller, Best and Dwyer. There's lots of examples of guys drafted into poor positions (like Ray Rice, with McGahee there; Mendenhall, with FWP there) - in dynasty, it's important to obtain talent more than situation for the long-haul.

I prefer to call this the "Eric Shelton Effect."

OUCH. Bad memories...

 

[footballfreek]

QB

Sam Bradford

Jimmy Clausen

Dan LeFevour

Tony Pike

Tim Tebow

Colt McCoy

RB

Ryan Mathews

CJ Spiller

Jahvid Best

Toby Gerhart

Montario Hardesty

Jonathan Dwyer

Ben Tate

Dexter McCluster (RB/WR)

Anthony Dixon

LeGarrette Blount

Joique Bell

Joe McKnight

WR

Dez Bryant

Golden Tate

Demaryius Thomas

Arrelious Benn

Damian Williams

Taylor Price

Andre Roberts

Mardy Gilyard

Eric Decker

Riley Cooper

Blair White

Brandon LaFell

Scott Long

Dezmon Briscoe

Carlton Mitchell

TE

Jermaine Grisham

Aaron Hernandez

Rob Gronkowski

Jimmy Graham

Ed Dickson

 

[zadok]

Because it shows how you like players beforehand and not just after they fall into situations. The cream always rises.

Close enough to what I already did, so I'll just link to minehttp://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=528923

Nice work there.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Because it shows how you like players beforehand and not just after they fall into situations. The cream always rises.

Exactly, after the draft I adjust my rankings - knowing what I thought of them from a skill standpoint, without taking into consideration their current team position, allows the "cream to rise". If SD takes Anthony Dixon, he will rise from #8 on my list - but I need to be mindful of putting him ahead of guys like Mathews, Spiller, Best and Dwyer. There's lots of examples of guys drafted into poor positions (like Ray Rice, with McGahee there; Mendenhall, with FWP there) - in dynasty, it's important to obtain talent more than situation for the long-haul.

I prefer to call this the "Eric Shelton Effect."

Wow that was a bad one....eric shelton

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Because it shows how you like players beforehand and not just after they fall into situations. The cream always rises.

Exactly, after the draft I adjust my rankings - knowing what I thought of them from a skill standpoint, without taking into consideration their current team position, allows the "cream to rise". If SD takes Anthony Dixon, he will rise from #8 on my list - but I need to be mindful of putting him ahead of guys like Mathews, Spiller, Best and Dwyer. There's lots of examples of guys drafted into poor positions (like Ray Rice, with McGahee there; Mendenhall, with FWP there) - in dynasty, it's important to obtain talent more than situation for the long-haul.

I prefer to call this the "Eric Shelton Effect."

Wow that was a bad one....eric shelton

Yeah, one "tip" I've heard of is to use talent for tiers and then talent and situation for ranks within tiers.

 

[zadok]

RB1 Ryan Matthews2 Jahvid Best3 Anthony Dixon4 Montario Hardesty5 C.J. Spiller6 Jonathan Dwyer7 Toby Gerhart8 Joe McKnight9 Dexter McCluster10 Roy Upchurch

Now this is good outside of the box stuff. 1. Why so down on Spiller?2. Do you think Upchurch will be drafted?

 

[OMG! Ponies!]

ok, i'll play.

QB

Clausen

Bradford

LeFevour

Tebow

McCoy

RB

Best

Matthews

Spiller

Dwyer

Gerhart

Hardesty

McCluster

McKnight

Tate

Dixon, Anthony

WR

Bryant

Benn

Williams, Damien

Thomas, Demaryius

Tate

Roberts

Gilyard

Decker

White

Long

TE

Gronkowski

Herdandez

Greshem

Graham, Jimmy