Predict the Outcome: NFL v. NFLPA (Tom Brady) (1 Viewer)

[Anarchy99]

Yes, I know we are all sick of Deflategate and there is a hotly contested 250+ page thread already. But the start of the season is 2 weeks away and at some point we will have an outcome in this case and Brady either will or will not suit up against the Steelers on opening day.

I listed a bunch of options in a poll. Here's your chance to call your shot as to how things play out. (If there are options I didn't think of I can add more choices.)

To be clear, this is not a did he or did he do anything poll, it's not a place to troll and call people salty haters, it's not a thread to assail the morality of the coach and the Patriots or the Commissioner, it's not a spot to squat and call NE a bunch of serial cheaters.

Stick to what you think will be the outcome of the court case and what happens to Brady's suspension. Save all the other commentary and morality for the other thread.

 

[Insein]

Brady and Roger: Broke back Mt 2

 

[JuniorNB]

Is the second option really a thing? He's failed the NFL's appeal process. And if he fails the US legal system's appeal process, he can still appeal again?

 

[JoeSteeler]

Fine only

 

[Thunderlips]

No settlement. Judge rules that technically the NFL is in the right, but they are bush league and full of #### for bringing it up. Brady gets 4.

 

[Anarchy99]

Is the second option really a thing? He's failed the NFL's appeal process. And if he fails the US legal system's appeal process, he can still appeal again?

Brady could certainly try to get an appeal heard, but he would also need to get a temporary injunction to be able to play. If he were to lose next week, it would be a huge mountain to climb to get both of those things to fall his way.

 

[Manster]

Brady and Roger: Broke back Mt 2

Can we add this to the poll?

 

[Anarchy99]

IMO, the best option the judge can make is ordering another appeal hearing. I think he wants to side with Brady but figures the league will appeal and his decision is subject to being overturned. I think he knows the league has a strong case due to the overwhelming authority the NFLPA extended to the commissioner. So the best outcome for him is not to decide anything. Brady gets to play while he gets another appeal hearing, a truly independent arbitrator will not uphold a 4 game suspension, and either Brady gets the arbitrator to toss the 4 game suspension altogether or it gets chopped down to a game. The league then has no outs, because their argument right now is the court system can't trump an arbitrator's ruling. So the league couldn't go to court to get the appeal overturned anymore than Brady could right now (unless the judge can convince a higher court that the NFL really went out of their way to be unfair). And, more importantly, everybody wins. Brady gets to play, the league can still eke out a game suspension, nobody caved and backed down, and we can all move on to playing football.

 

[Bri]

A TV like story where the judge questions Goodell and Brady in chambers, we never know what happened, and Brady is just fined

 

[BroadwayG]

Judge will say to the NFLPA 'Were you out of your cornfed minds when you agreed to this CBA?'

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Is the second option really a thing? He's failed the NFL's appeal process. And if he fails the US legal system's appeal process, he can still appeal again?

The court case is not an appeal. The NFLPA is challenging the NFL's punishment as being beyond what is bargained for in the CBA among other issues. He can appeal the lower court's decision, but it's possible that he would fail to receive a temporary injunction which would allow him to play pending the appeal.

 

[Anarchy99]

Is the second option really a thing? He's failed the NFL's appeal process. And if he fails the US legal system's appeal process, he can still appeal again?

The court case is not an appeal. The NFLPA is challenging the NFL's punishment as being beyond what is bargained for in the CBA among other issues. He can appeal the lower court's decision, but it's possible that he would fail to receive a temporary injunction which would allow him to play pending the appeal.

Technically, the current court action is the NFL asking the court to reaffirm its position from the appeal hearing and keep Brady's suspension in tact. I don't know if that makes any difference or not in how things play out in court since the NFL was the instigator of the court action. Probably not.

 

[TDorBust]

Where is my option that Brady loses the court case? Since when was the court case taking until 2016 even a possibility?

Guess I am forced to vote that he is suspended and plays under appeal. If he loses the court case he is not accepting he did it but he it out of options.

 

[Anarchy99]

Where is my option that Brady loses the court case? Since when was the court case taking until 2016 even a possibility?

Guess I am forced to vote that he is suspended and plays under appeal. If he loses the court case he is not accepting he did it but he it out of options.

Option one is he loses court case and accepts the suspension without appealing.

 

[TDorBust]

Where is my option that Brady loses the court case? Since when was the court case taking until 2016 even a possibility?

Guess I am forced to vote that he is suspended and plays under appeal. If he loses the court case he is not accepting he did it but he it out of options.

Option one is he loses court case and accepts the suspension without appealing.

I read that as him accepting and taking ownership of what he did.

I think the court throws out the case or rules in favor of the NFL. Brady sticks by that he never did anything but has no route to turn to in order to get the suspension overturned. 20 years from now when Brady is an announcer on Fox he still talks about how the NFL was out to get him and how the NFL ruined his marriage.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Is the second option really a thing? He's failed the NFL's appeal process. And if he fails the US legal system's appeal process, he can still appeal again?

The court case is not an appeal. The NFLPA is challenging the NFL's punishment as being beyond what is bargained for in the CBA among other issues. He can appeal the lower court's decision, but it's possible that he would fail to receive a temporary injunction which would allow him to play pending the appeal.

Technically, the current court action is the NFL asking the court to reaffirm its position from the appeal hearing and keep Brady's suspension in tact. I don't know if that makes any difference or not in how things play out in court since the NFL was the instigator of the court action. Probably not.

True - forgot that the NFL beat them to the punch. I don't think that changes anything though.

 

[Arodin]

Where's the option for "serves his four games while appealing...no stay"? Didn't AP just "win" a suspension-related case after his suspension was already over?

 

[ImTheScientist]

Brady gets thrown in the slammer with Jared from Subway.