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Prediction: Titans will be a top 5 DEF in 2007 (1 Viewer)

Weapon of Mass Instruction

Watch my feet!
Honestly, they aren't that far away, really. Yes, you watch some of their game, see highlights, or look at the stat sheet and you think I've had too many eggnogs. Let's examine.

DLine -- DE / Vanden Bosch (probowl caliber/pbc, hereafter), DT / Haynesworth (pbc), Robaire Smith, Starks and even Tony Brown.

Linebackers -- Bulluck and Thornton are both pbc in my opinion. Excellent outside linebackers.

Secondary -- Pacman is already a top 3/top 5 CB, Chris Hope is a mad man at safety. Cortland Finnegan should probably be starting right now at CB but is a playmaker at nickel.

Now, for the problems:

-- CB opposite Pacman. Reynaldo Hill just can't cover NFL WR. He makes the rest of the D look much worse than it is. Kind of like putting 1 tablespoon of vinegar in a glass of Cakebread cabernet.

-- Middle LB. Sirmon is gone, wasn't a MLB anyway. The rookie, Tulloch (the guy that made Mario Williams look so good) is doing great, having 10+ tackle games, but does still make some rookie mistakes. I think he could be the solution, here, but a FA upgrade could help.

-- Safety, opposite Chris Hope. Lamont Thompson is a really good, nice guy. He just can't play safety at a top NFL level. See comments on Hill. Rookie Calvin Lowery from Penn St. is a major headknocker out there along with Vince Fuller, 2nd year out of VTech -- we just haven't been able to see what they can do yet. Upgrade is very likely.

-- DE opposite Vanden Bosch. KVB is getting triple teamed basically, therefore, severely limiting our pass rush. The subs we have in now are also undersized and not as effective vs the run, either.

If they solve those three positions (1 CB, 1 Safety, 1 DE) I fully believe that they'll be a pretty dominant defense.

Here's what I think they do:

1. With the money they'll have under the cap ($41 to $48 million in varying estimates -- this does not include the savings from when they dump Pillar (7.5mm)) I believe they'll sign whoever it is they feel to be the #1 CB in free agency. Asante Samuel, Clements, etc.

2. I believe they'll get the Safety OR DE in the draft with the #1 selection. Landry (LSU) or Nelson (FLA) would be my guess and I believe either would and could start right off the bat. If not, then DE Gaines Adams (Clemson) or Quentin Moses (GA). Whichever position it is that falls to them at their first pick, they'll address the other one via free agency.

My point is this: the vast core is very strong. 8/11 positions are top notch. We don't need a general upgrade, we need a very specific upgrade at 3 positions...and we have the money to do it, along with 11 draft picks.

I would expect the Titans to package some picks and move up to an extra day 1 pick or two and end up with just 5, maybe 6, draft picks out of their current 11 slots. Yes, WR will be address, though very unlikely with the first round pick.

 
Agree. With the exception of a 2nd CB and Lamont Thompson, they're short on experience, not talent. The last two months have done wonders for this defense as they learn to play together, trust each other, and win.

 
Whether we're talking fantasy or on the field, I couldn't disagree more. Their pass-rush is HORRIBLE and I've learned the hard way that no pass rush equals a mediocre defense, at best.

 
My one caution with the Titans for next year in general is that this year they've been extremely fortunate with regards to recovering their own fumbles. They've had 26 fumbles on offense, and only lost 6 of them. For example, Cleveland has lost 20 fumbles on offense and lost 15 of them. That evens out over time.

 
My only concern is the pass rush. If they find a way to bring pressure off the corner I think mayhem will ensue and fantasy owners will rejoice.

 
Whether we're talking fantasy or on the field, I couldn't disagree more. Their pass-rush is HORRIBLE and I've learned the hard way that no pass rush equals a mediocre defense, at best.
Totally agree.I would rank the Titans D, in the 15 - 20 range fantasy wise in 2007..... tops.
 
I'd be much more impressed with your prediction if you made it this time last week, before they scored 3 defensive/sp TD's.

 
how about for the rest of the season? How's their run/pass defense doing lately? I know they've been winning games but I didn't know if it was primarily due to VY, the defense or combo of both. I watched the Jax/Titan game this weekend and the Garrard but a bow on the gift he gave but the Titans D deserves some credit as well.

 
Actually, the improving defense is probably the biggest factor in their recent success. I believed this even before their explosion this past week...note how little the Colts scored against them in both games, etc.

As such, I could buy into the OP. Not 100% sold, but I could see it happening.

 
I guess reading the OP is a lost art here
Forgive us if we think that a guy like Quentin Moses isn't going to rescue their pass-rush, or lack thereof.
Dude, Quentin Moses would look like Reggie White compare to what the Titans have at Rt DE now. And as to the post concerning what my thoughts were BEFORE last week's performance -- they have been consistent to what I said for the last couple of months. You are welcome to search and go back and look for yourself.The PRIMARY reasons for the lack of pass rush:1. KVB is getting double and triple teamed.2. For about half the season, Titans were down a couple of DT.3. Titans have almost nothing at Right DE.4. Reynaldo Hill and Lamont Thompson sometimes allow for a pretty quick release by the QB.Next year IF they get who they need at CB and S, you'll see a lot more man to man which will allow for more LB blitzing and letting Finnegan rush off the corner. Basically, I believe it is the fault of the secondary as much as the DLine.Hey, we all have opinions. Next year, we'll see who is right.
 
Honestly, they aren't that far away, really. Yes, you watch some of their game, see highlights, or look at the stat sheet and you think I've had too many eggnogs. Let's examine.

DLine -- DE / Vanden Bosch (probowl caliber/pbc, hereafter), DT / Haynesworth (pbc), Robaire Smith, Starks and even Tony Brown.

Linebackers -- Bulluck and Thornton are both pbc in my opinion. Excellent outside linebackers.

Secondary -- Pacman is already a top 3/top 5 CB, Chris Hope is a mad man at safety. Cortland Finnegan should probably be starting right now at CB but is a playmaker at nickel.

Now, for the problems:

-- CB opposite Pacman. Reynaldo Hill just can't cover NFL WR. He makes the rest of the D look much worse than it is. Kind of like putting 1 tablespoon of vinegar in a glass of Cakebread cabernet.

-- Middle LB. Sirmon is gone, wasn't a MLB anyway. The rookie, Tulloch (the guy that made Mario Williams look so good) is doing great, having 10+ tackle games, but does still make some rookie mistakes. I think he could be the solution, here, but a FA upgrade could help.

-- Safety, opposite Chris Hope. Lamont Thompson is a really good, nice guy. He just can't play safety at a top NFL level. See comments on Hill. Rookie Calvin Lowery from Penn St. is a major headknocker out there along with Vince Fuller, 2nd year out of VTech -- we just haven't been able to see what they can do yet. Upgrade is very likely.

-- DE opposite Vanden Bosch. KVB is getting triple teamed basically, therefore, severely limiting our pass rush. The subs we have in now are also undersized and not as effective vs the run, either.

If they solve those three positions (1 CB, 1 Safety, 1 DE) I fully believe that they'll be a pretty dominant defense.

Here's what I think they do:

1. With the money they'll have under the cap ($41 to $48 million in varying estimates -- this does not include the savings from when they dump Pillar (7.5mm)) I believe they'll sign whoever it is they feel to be the #1 CB in free agency. Asante Samuel, Clements, etc.

2. I believe they'll get the Safety OR DE in the draft with the #1 selection. Landry (LSU) or Nelson (FLA) would be my guess and I believe either would and could start right off the bat. If not, then DE Gaines Adams (Clemson) or Quentin Moses (GA). Whichever position it is that falls to them at their first pick, they'll address the other one via free agency.

My point is this: the vast core is very strong. 8/11 positions are top notch. We don't need a general upgrade, we need a very specific upgrade at 3 positions...and we have the money to do it, along with 11 draft picks.

I would expect the Titans to package some picks and move up to an extra day 1 pick or two and end up with just 5, maybe 6, draft picks out of their current 11 slots. Yes, WR will be address, though very unlikely with the first round pick.
Cakebread is WAYYYY over-rated. Perhaps a Stag's Leap Pinot, instead?
 
Remember the Titans will also be about 40mil under the cap to sign players, and FAs.
Word is $48 million (including the new cap increase), which doesn't count $ saved when they put Pillar out to pasture. Also, they have very few UFA to sign and everyone on the team is already signed except Bennett -- so they don't have to spend a lot of money to keep who they already have.Many teams with 10-20mm have several on their existing team to sign. Once they do that, they won't have anything left for FA.

I think the Titans make 2 HUGE signings -- we'll just see who they are.

Anyone: Do you have access to a list of FA or UFA for DE and S?

 
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It is what it is said:
2007 Top DE UFA

Charles Grant

Justin Smith

Bryan Thomas

Dewayne White

Corey Redding

2007 Top S UFA

Deon Grant

Michael Lewis

Ken Hamlin

Kevin Kaesviharn

I also believe Dwight Freeney is a RFA...also Robaire Smith of the Titans signed a one year contract last year.
Tenn should go after one of those 2 guys and then take a S in the 1st IMO. That could very well complete the D on paper.
 
It is what it is said:
2007 Top DE UFA

Charles Grant

Justin Smith

Bryan Thomas

Dewayne White

Corey Redding

2007 Top S UFA

Deon Grant

Michael Lewis

Ken Hamlin

Kevin Kaesviharn

I also believe Dwight Freeney is a RFA...also Robaire Smith of the Titans signed a one year contract last year.
Tenn should go after one of those 2 guys and then take a S in the 1st IMO. That could very well complete the D on paper.
Isn't Jared Allen a FA as well? For backup depth, is KGB a salvagable project for low $ ala Vanden Bosch?
 
It is what it is said:
2007 Top DE UFA

Charles Grant

Justin Smith

Bryan Thomas

Dewayne White

Corey Redding

2007 Top S UFA

Deon Grant

Michael Lewis

Ken Hamlin

Kevin Kaesviharn

I also believe Dwight Freeney is a RFA...also Robaire Smith of the Titans signed a one year contract last year.
Tenn should go after one of those 2 guys and then take a S in the 1st IMO. That could very well complete the D on paper.
Besides the gaping hole at CB and the lack of an NFL-starter level MLB, sure.Man Im glad they took that steal Lendale White in the 2nd round last year, right JURB?

 
It is what it is said:
Remember the Titans will also be about 40mil under the cap to sign players, and FAs.
Word is $48 million (including the new cap increase), which doesn't count $ saved when they put Pillar out to pasture. Also, they have very few UFA to sign and everyone on the team is already signed except Bennett -- so they don't have to spend a lot of money to keep who they already have.Many teams with 10-20mm have several on their existing team to sign. Once they do that, they won't have anything left for FA.

I think the Titans make 2 HUGE signings -- we'll just see who they are.

Anyone: Do you have access to a list of FA or UFA for DE and S?
2007 Top DE UFACharles Grant

Justin Smith

Bryan Thomas

Dewayne White

Corey Redding

2007 Top S UFA

Deon Grant

Michael Lewis

Ken Hamlin

Kevin Kaesviharn

I also believe Dwight Freeney is a RFA...also Robaire Smith of the Titans signed a one year contract last year.
RFAs are players who have contracts that expire after their 3rd year in the league. Freeney is a UFA.

Bryan Thomas is much better suited as an OLB.

 
It is what it is said:
2007 Top DE UFA

Charles Grant

Justin Smith

Bryan Thomas

Dewayne White

Corey Redding

2007 Top S UFA

Deon Grant

Michael Lewis

Ken Hamlin

Kevin Kaesviharn

I also believe Dwight Freeney is a RFA...also Robaire Smith of the Titans signed a one year contract last year.
Tenn should go after one of those 2 guys and then take a S in the 1st IMO. That could very well complete the D on paper.
Besides the gaping hole at CB and the lack of an NFL-starter level MLB, sure.Man Im glad they took that steal Lendale White in the 2nd round last year, right JURB?
As I said just after the 2006 draft, I liked the Lendale pick but the player we passed on and should have picked there was McNeil.
 
Weapon of Mass Instruction said:
diesel7982 said:
It is what it is said:
2007 Top DE UFA

Charles Grant

Justin Smith

Bryan Thomas

Dewayne White

Corey Redding

2007 Top S UFA

Deon Grant

Michael Lewis

Ken Hamlin

Kevin Kaesviharn

I also believe Dwight Freeney is a RFA...also Robaire Smith of the Titans signed a one year contract last year.
Tenn should go after one of those 2 guys and then take a S in the 1st IMO. That could very well complete the D on paper.
Besides the gaping hole at CB and the lack of an NFL-starter level MLB, sure.Man Im glad they took that steal Lendale White in the 2nd round last year, right JURB?
As I said just after the 2006 draft, I liked the Lendale pick but the player we passed on and should have picked there was McNeil.
There were several players we should have picked there, but none of them should have been White.Hes been every bit the fat sack of crap I predicted hed be...just wanted to remind JURB, who's the head of the Lendale White fan club on this board.

 
How has WHite been a fat sack of crap?
Its been repeatedly reported here in Nashville that the coaching staff is still disappointed with his conditioning and that has it affected his playing time.He divided the team during training camp after spitting on a teammate (and we all know what a big deal that is from the TO fiasco).Hes been everything Ive expected him to be, which is a wasted draft pick that would have been better used on one of the lines.
 
I didn't realize there had been more issues since the spitting. For him to remain active while Chris Brown wasn't must say a lot about Brown.

 
:lmao:

Honestly, they aren't that far away, really. Yes, you watch some of their game, see highlights, or look at the stat sheet and you think I've had too many eggnogs. Let's examine.

DLine -- DE / Vanden Bosch (probowl caliber/pbc, hereafter), DT / Haynesworth (pbc), Robaire Smith, Starks and even Tony Brown.

Linebackers -- Bulluck and Thornton are both pbc in my opinion. Excellent outside linebackers.

Secondary -- Pacman is already a top 3/top 5 CB, Chris Hope is a mad man at safety. Cortland Finnegan should probably be starting right now at CB but is a playmaker at nickel.

Now, for the problems:

-- CB opposite Pacman. Reynaldo Hill just can't cover NFL WR. He makes the rest of the D look much worse than it is. Kind of like putting 1 tablespoon of vinegar in a glass of Cakebread cabernet.

-- Middle LB. Sirmon is gone, wasn't a MLB anyway. The rookie, Tulloch (the guy that made Mario Williams look so good) is doing great, having 10+ tackle games, but does still make some rookie mistakes. I think he could be the solution, here, but a FA upgrade could help.

-- Safety, opposite Chris Hope. Lamont Thompson is a really good, nice guy. He just can't play safety at a top NFL level. See comments on Hill. Rookie Calvin Lowery from Penn St. is a major headknocker out there along with Vince Fuller, 2nd year out of VTech -- we just haven't been able to see what they can do yet. Upgrade is very likely.

-- DE opposite Vanden Bosch. KVB is getting triple teamed basically, therefore, severely limiting our pass rush. The subs we have in now are also undersized and not as effective vs the run, either.

If they solve those three positions (1 CB, 1 Safety, 1 DE) I fully believe that they'll be a pretty dominant defense.

Here's what I think they do:

1. With the money they'll have under the cap ($41 to $48 million in varying estimates -- this does not include the savings from when they dump Pillar (7.5mm)) I believe they'll sign whoever it is they feel to be the #1 CB in free agency. Asante Samuel, Clements, etc.

2. I believe they'll get the Safety OR DE in the draft with the #1 selection. Landry (LSU) or Nelson (FLA) would be my guess and I believe either would and could start right off the bat. If not, then DE Gaines Adams (Clemson) or Quentin Moses (GA). Whichever position it is that falls to them at their first pick, they'll address the other one via free agency.

My point is this: the vast core is very strong. 8/11 positions are top notch. We don't need a general upgrade, we need a very specific upgrade at 3 positions...and we have the money to do it, along with 11 draft picks.

I would expect the Titans to package some picks and move up to an extra day 1 pick or two and end up with just 5, maybe 6, draft picks out of their current 11 slots. Yes, WR will be address, though very unlikely with the first round pick.
Well, well, well. What do we have here? Going into week 6, the Titans are:

10th best against the pass

#3 against the rush

#4 in scoring defense

#5 in interceptions

Holding opposing QBs to a 59.7 rating

#5 in Total Defense (Pitt, NE, Washington, Bal, Tennessee)

Agree. With the exception of a 2nd CB and Lamont Thompson, they're short on experience, not talent. The last two months have done wonders for this defense as they learn to play together, trust each other, and win.
Enter Nick Harper, exit Lamont Thompson.
Whether we're talking fantasy or on the field, I couldn't disagree more. Their pass-rush is HORRIBLE and I've learned the hard way that no pass rush equals a mediocre defense, at best.
Hence WMI's fourth point, that they need a DE opposite KVB.
At the time I wrote this, Odom was out for the year with an injured knee. He has come back as a beast. Plus, coaches switched KVB to right end...next to Haynesworth. This has proven fatal to the opposing offense.
I guess reading the OP is a lost art here
Forgive us if we think that a guy like Quentin Moses isn't going to rescue their pass-rush, or lack thereof.
Hey, we all have opinions. Next year, we'll see who is right.
:unsure: Corey Simon and Bryce Fischer haven't even made an impact yet. Michael Griffin isn't really even playing defense yet (no place for him). This D is on its way.

 
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WMI - gotta love the homerism but we are not even one third in the season. Cool it for another couple of games, right - :confused:

 
I have them with Chicago Team Def. Bought them when Chi was injury ridden. I may end up starting Tenn over Chi soon. :bs:

 
Stat: Atlanta had SIX drives that started in Titans territory yesterday...and scored a grand total of 3 points off of them.

Yes, I know that is partly the fault of The Piano Man and Gary Coleman...but, come on, that is serious shut down.

 
:lmao:

Honestly, they aren't that far away, really. Yes, you watch some of their game, see highlights, or look at the stat sheet and you think I've had too many eggnogs. Let's examine.

DLine -- DE / Vanden Bosch (probowl caliber/pbc, hereafter), DT / Haynesworth (pbc), Robaire Smith, Starks and even Tony Brown.

Linebackers -- Bulluck and Thornton are both pbc in my opinion. Excellent outside linebackers.

Secondary -- Pacman is already a top 3/top 5 CB, Chris Hope is a mad man at safety. Cortland Finnegan should probably be starting right now at CB but is a playmaker at nickel.

Now, for the problems:

-- CB opposite Pacman. Reynaldo Hill just can't cover NFL WR. He makes the rest of the D look much worse than it is. Kind of like putting 1 tablespoon of vinegar in a glass of Cakebread cabernet.

-- Middle LB. Sirmon is gone, wasn't a MLB anyway. The rookie, Tulloch (the guy that made Mario Williams look so good) is doing great, having 10+ tackle games, but does still make some rookie mistakes. I think he could be the solution, here, but a FA upgrade could help.

-- Safety, opposite Chris Hope. Lamont Thompson is a really good, nice guy. He just can't play safety at a top NFL level. See comments on Hill. Rookie Calvin Lowery from Penn St. is a major headknocker out there along with Vince Fuller, 2nd year out of VTech -- we just haven't been able to see what they can do yet. Upgrade is very likely.

-- DE opposite Vanden Bosch. KVB is getting triple teamed basically, therefore, severely limiting our pass rush. The subs we have in now are also undersized and not as effective vs the run, either.

If they solve those three positions (1 CB, 1 Safety, 1 DE) I fully believe that they'll be a pretty dominant defense.

Here's what I think they do:

1. With the money they'll have under the cap ($41 to $48 million in varying estimates -- this does not include the savings from when they dump Pillar (7.5mm)) I believe they'll sign whoever it is they feel to be the #1 CB in free agency. Asante Samuel, Clements, etc.

2. I believe they'll get the Safety OR DE in the draft with the #1 selection. Landry (LSU) or Nelson (FLA) would be my guess and I believe either would and could start right off the bat. If not, then DE Gaines Adams (Clemson) or Quentin Moses (GA). Whichever position it is that falls to them at their first pick, they'll address the other one via free agency.

My point is this: the vast core is very strong. 8/11 positions are top notch. We don't need a general upgrade, we need a very specific upgrade at 3 positions...and we have the money to do it, along with 11 draft picks.

I would expect the Titans to package some picks and move up to an extra day 1 pick or two and end up with just 5, maybe 6, draft picks out of their current 11 slots. Yes, WR will be address, though very unlikely with the first round pick.
Well, well, well. What do we have here? Going into week 6, the Titans are:

10th best against the pass

#3 against the rush

#4 in scoring defense

#5 in interceptions

Holding opposing QBs to a 59.7 rating

#5 in Total Defense (Pitt, NE, Washington, Bal, Tennessee)

Agree. With the exception of a 2nd CB and Lamont Thompson, they're short on experience, not talent. The last two months have done wonders for this defense as they learn to play together, trust each other, and win.
Enter Nick Harper, exit Lamont Thompson.
Whether we're talking fantasy or on the field, I couldn't disagree more. Their pass-rush is HORRIBLE and I've learned the hard way that no pass rush equals a mediocre defense, at best.
Hence WMI's fourth point, that they need a DE opposite KVB.
At the time I wrote this, Odom was out for the year with an injured knee. He has come back as a beast. Plus, coaches switched KVB to right end...next to Haynesworth. This has proven fatal to the opposing offense.
I guess reading the OP is a lost art here
Forgive us if we think that a guy like Quentin Moses isn't going to rescue their pass-rush, or lack thereof.
Hey, we all have opinions. Next year, we'll see who is right.
:lmao: Corey Simon and Bryce Fischer haven't even made an impact yet. Michael Griffin isn't really even playing defense yet (no place for him). This D is on its way.
What do you think the return of PacMan (Will that even happen?) would mean for the Titans, in terms of D/ST for fantasy purposes?
 
I'm VERY pleased. I drafted Washington late and grabbed Tennessee on the waiver wire. I was determined to let someone else take Chicago and Baltimore too early. This Tennessee defensive line is a wrecking machine.

 
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:thumbup:

Honestly, they aren't that far away, really. Yes, you watch some of their game, see highlights, or look at the stat sheet and you think I've had too many eggnogs. Let's examine.

DLine -- DE / Vanden Bosch (probowl caliber/pbc, hereafter), DT / Haynesworth (pbc), Robaire Smith, Starks and even Tony Brown.

Linebackers -- Bulluck and Thornton are both pbc in my opinion. Excellent outside linebackers.

Secondary -- Pacman is already a top 3/top 5 CB, Chris Hope is a mad man at safety. Cortland Finnegan should probably be starting right now at CB but is a playmaker at nickel.

Now, for the problems:

-- CB opposite Pacman. Reynaldo Hill just can't cover NFL WR. He makes the rest of the D look much worse than it is. Kind of like putting 1 tablespoon of vinegar in a glass of Cakebread cabernet.

-- Middle LB. Sirmon is gone, wasn't a MLB anyway. The rookie, Tulloch (the guy that made Mario Williams look so good) is doing great, having 10+ tackle games, but does still make some rookie mistakes. I think he could be the solution, here, but a FA upgrade could help.

-- Safety, opposite Chris Hope. Lamont Thompson is a really good, nice guy. He just can't play safety at a top NFL level. See comments on Hill. Rookie Calvin Lowery from Penn St. is a major headknocker out there along with Vince Fuller, 2nd year out of VTech -- we just haven't been able to see what they can do yet. Upgrade is very likely.

-- DE opposite Vanden Bosch. KVB is getting triple teamed basically, therefore, severely limiting our pass rush. The subs we have in now are also undersized and not as effective vs the run, either.

If they solve those three positions (1 CB, 1 Safety, 1 DE) I fully believe that they'll be a pretty dominant defense.

Here's what I think they do:

1. With the money they'll have under the cap ($41 to $48 million in varying estimates -- this does not include the savings from when they dump Pillar (7.5mm)) I believe they'll sign whoever it is they feel to be the #1 CB in free agency. Asante Samuel, Clements, etc.

2. I believe they'll get the Safety OR DE in the draft with the #1 selection. Landry (LSU) or Nelson (FLA) would be my guess and I believe either would and could start right off the bat. If not, then DE Gaines Adams (Clemson) or Quentin Moses (GA). Whichever position it is that falls to them at their first pick, they'll address the other one via free agency.

My point is this: the vast core is very strong. 8/11 positions are top notch. We don't need a general upgrade, we need a very specific upgrade at 3 positions...and we have the money to do it, along with 11 draft picks.

I would expect the Titans to package some picks and move up to an extra day 1 pick or two and end up with just 5, maybe 6, draft picks out of their current 11 slots. Yes, WR will be address, though very unlikely with the first round pick.
Well, well, well. What do we have here? Going into week 6, the Titans are:

10th best against the pass

#3 against the rush

#4 in scoring defense

#5 in interceptions

Holding opposing QBs to a 59.7 rating

#5 in Total Defense (Pitt, NE, Washington, Bal, Tennessee)

Agree. With the exception of a 2nd CB and Lamont Thompson, they're short on experience, not talent. The last two months have done wonders for this defense as they learn to play together, trust each other, and win.
Enter Nick Harper, exit Lamont Thompson.
Whether we're talking fantasy or on the field, I couldn't disagree more. Their pass-rush is HORRIBLE and I've learned the hard way that no pass rush equals a mediocre defense, at best.
Hence WMI's fourth point, that they need a DE opposite KVB.
At the time I wrote this, Odom was out for the year with an injured knee. He has come back as a beast. Plus, coaches switched KVB to right end...next to Haynesworth. This has proven fatal to the opposing offense.
I guess reading the OP is a lost art here
Forgive us if we think that a guy like Quentin Moses isn't going to rescue their pass-rush, or lack thereof.
Hey, we all have opinions. Next year, we'll see who is right.
:thumbup: Corey Simon and Bryce Fischer haven't even made an impact yet. Michael Griffin isn't really even playing defense yet (no place for him). This D is on its way.
What do you think the return of PacMan (Will that even happen?) would mean for the Titans, in terms of D/ST for fantasy purposes?
Well, that is a hot topic around Nashville. One POV is that the guy is a spectacular playmaker and who wouldn't want him on the field. The other POV is that we have a good thing going on, the D is great, why rock the boat? Also, one key right now is very good team chemistry -- would you risk that by bring Pac back in?My guess is that IF he is activated, that he'll play primarily in the return game, as a back up on D, and a little on offense.

 
* The Titans are ranked as the #1 defense in the NFL by Football Outsiders' Defense-adjusted Value Over Average (DVOA) system. This is done very similar to how VBD is determined. See it here.

* The Titans are the only team in the NFL to not allow an opponent to score in the 4th quarter so far this year.

 
good call WMD. I added the Titans to my roster in all my leagues during their bye week. Their schedule is pretty sweet and their run defense is stout.

 
I'm VERY pleased. I drafted Washington late and grabbed Tennessee on the waiver wire. I was determined to let someone else take Chicago and Baltimore too early. This Tennessee defensive line is a wrecking machine.
Yeah I was one of the ones that took Balt too early but I picked them off waivers this week and now I'm ALL ABOARD!! :goodposting:
 
Bannedman said:
Just picked them up for Az. I like Az's matchup this week, but Tenn is the better overall defense.
Yeah I had the same choice to make. I had the higher priority over a person I play this week and took TEN as the better play for the season over AZ. Unfortunately the person I play this week took AZ right after me with the better matchup this week.Wish me luck :help:
 
Stat: Atlanta had SIX drives that started in Titans territory yesterday...and scored a grand total of 3 points off of them.Yes, I know that is partly the fault of The Piano Man and Gary Coleman...but, come on, that is serious shut down.
That's sort of worrisome... The thing that hurts this defense is actually VY. If he turns the ball over as much as he did last week against a GOOD offense..... oof.
 
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