Prediction: Wynn runs for 1000 yards this year (1 Viewer)

[DevilintheDetail]

If you read this article below, I think it's pretty apparent that the Packers' coaching staff has Wynn pegged for a large role in the offense now. They are clearly much more confident in his abilities and capacity to improve than Jackson's. Morency, until he can show he is healthy, is an afterthought.

With a great defense and a line that will improve its blocking, I think Wynn is going to be a solid RB in games 4-17. I particularly liked these quotes from the offensive coordinator:

"We'll have to see how to attack San Diego, the best things those guys do well," offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said when asked if Wynn would become the primary back this week. "But certainly DeShawn didn't hurt himself with the way he played."

"You're talking about an extremely talented individual that's applying all that talent, all that hard work, in the film room. Very, very rarely makes a mistake," Bennett said. "Football — OK, this kid is bright. He hardly ever makes a mistake. To see him apply what he's learning in the film room to the practice field and the game field, it's a positive thing. I'll say this also about him — and don't get me wrong, we've got a ton of improvement to make, we're working toward that — but for us to have that type of confidence in a rookie on third down, that speaks volumes about his football IQ."

http://greenbaypressgazette.packersnews.co...=73293845629381

 

[Maven]

If you read this article below, I think it's pretty apparent that the Packers' coaching staff has Wynn pegged for a large role in the offense now. They are clearly much more confident in his abilities and capacity to improve than Jackson's. Morency, until he can show he is healthy, is an afterthought.

With a great defense and a line that will improve its blocking, I think Wynn is going to be a solid RB in games 4-17. I particularly liked these quotes from the offensive coordinator:

"We'll have to see how to attack San Diego, the best things those guys do well," offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said when asked if Wynn would become the primary back this week. "But certainly DeShawn didn't hurt himself with the way he played."

"You're talking about an extremely talented individual that's applying all that talent, all that hard work, in the film room. Very, very rarely makes a mistake," Bennett said. "Football — OK, this kid is bright. He hardly ever makes a mistake. To see him apply what he's learning in the film room to the practice field and the game field, it's a positive thing. I'll say this also about him — and don't get me wrong, we've got a ton of improvement to make, we're working toward that — but for us to have that type of confidence in a rookie on third down, that speaks volumes about his football IQ."

http://greenbaypressgazette.packersnews.co...=73293845629381

How will he rush for over 1000 with Morency and Brandon Jackson all stealing carries? Did you also think Romo is a future HOF after his game vs. the Giants? The GIANTS D SUCKS. WYNN WILL SEE TOUGHER COMPETITION IN WEEKS TO COME. THIS WAS A FLUKE GAME!

 

[shadyridr]

What do you expect the GB coaching staff to say?

 

[Johnny]

I thing wynn and Jackson are not that good. I personally feel if and when Morency is healthy he will be the starter. I also feel Favre would prefer Morency over a rookie RB. Both Jackson and Wynn do not look good. Morency did a decent job last year when Green was injured. just my 2 cents.

If Morency is available I would stash him away now if you have the room.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

How will he rush for over 1000 with Morency and Brandon Jackson all stealing carries? Did you also think Romo is a future HOF after his game vs. the Giants? The GIANTS D SUCKS. WYNN WILL SEE TOUGHER COMPETITION IN WEEKS TO COME. THIS WAS A FLUKE GAME!

It isn't at all clear that Morency will be stealing any carries in the near future, and Jackson looks to be getting demoted.

 

[prymetyme25]

If you read this article below, I think it's pretty apparent that the Packers' coaching staff has Wynn pegged for a large role in the offense now. They are clearly much more confident in his abilities and capacity to improve than Jackson's. Morency, until he can show he is healthy, is an afterthought.

With a great defense and a line that will improve its blocking, I think Wynn is going to be a solid RB in games 4-17. I particularly liked these quotes from the offensive coordinator:

"We'll have to see how to attack San Diego, the best things those guys do well," offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said when asked if Wynn would become the primary back this week. "But certainly DeShawn didn't hurt himself with the way he played."

"You're talking about an extremely talented individual that's applying all that talent, all that hard work, in the film room. Very, very rarely makes a mistake," Bennett said. "Football — OK, this kid is bright. He hardly ever makes a mistake. To see him apply what he's learning in the film room to the practice field and the game field, it's a positive thing. I'll say this also about him — and don't get me wrong, we've got a ton of improvement to make, we're working toward that — but for us to have that type of confidence in a rookie on third down, that speaks volumes about his football IQ."

http://greenbaypressgazette.packersnews.co...=73293845629381

Might wanna really really think about that statement. I'll see if anyone else notices it but thats a pretty empty statement.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

What do you expect the GB coaching staff to say?

Why would I expect the GB coaching staff to say good things about Wynn's football IQ? He's a 7th round pick and they don't have any real reason to say it if it's not true. There is nowhere near the "investment" in Wynn as in Jackson, but the offensive coordinator isn't singing Jackson's praises when it comes to picking up the blitz or not making mistakes. Wynn is the one earning the trust. Doesn't sound like coaches blowing smoke to me.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

I don't think any of these guys gets enough carries to eclipse 1000.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Might wanna really really think about that statement. I'll see if anyone else notices it but thats a pretty empty statement.

I don't see how that's an empty statement. The offensive coordinator is praising Wynn's football IQ. He certainly hasn't been doing that for his other rookie RB, Jackson, who has been starting up to this point. If you think that's "empty", fine, but I think there's definitely something there.

 

[shadyridr]

Let me guess, you just picked him up off waivers?

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Let me guess, you just picked him up off waivers?

Unfortunately, no. I tried to, but missed out on him (he went for a little under 30% of our total cap in a dynasty league). I'm just a Packers fan who watches the games and has Jackson and Morency on my roster.

 

[Banger]

Might wanna really really think about that statement. I'll see if anyone else notices it but thats a pretty empty statement.

I don't see how that's an empty statement. The offensive coordinator is praising Wynn's football IQ. He certainly hasn't been doing that for his other rookie RB, Jackson, who has been starting up to this point. If you think that's "empty", fine, but I think there's definitely something there.

I think there's a good chance you will be disappointed if you are pinning your hopes on Wynn.

 

[zamboni]

Wynn is totally worth a flier, but to say he's going to hit 1K yards is a huge leap of faith. If Jackson and Morency move completely out of the picture, then the proclamation is worth revisiting.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

Might wanna really really think about that statement. I'll see if anyone else notices it but thats a pretty empty statement.

I don't see how that's an empty statement. The offensive coordinator is praising Wynn's football IQ. He certainly hasn't been doing that for his other rookie RB, Jackson, who has been starting up to this point. If you think that's "empty", fine, but I think there's definitely something there.

As Joe likes to say, sometimes an article doesn't say as much about the subject of the article (Wynn, in this case) as it does about his competition (BJax in this case).I think this is one of those times - the coaches are starting to realize that Jackson is not the answer. So, what choice do they have? Morency's injured. Grant's new to the system. They've gotta put their backing behind somebody...Wynn's the only one left who's healthy & ready to play.So, it's not so much a promotion of Wynn as it is a demotion of Jackson...

 

[prymetyme25]

Might wanna really really think about that statement. I'll see if anyone else notices it but thats a pretty empty statement.

I don't see how that's an empty statement. The offensive coordinator is praising Wynn's football IQ. He certainly hasn't been doing that for his other rookie RB, Jackson, who has been starting up to this point. If you think that's "empty", fine, but I think there's definitely something there.

As Joe likes to say, sometimes an article doesn't say as much about the subject of the article (Wynn, in this case) as it does about his competition (BJax in this case).I think this is one of those times - the coaches are starting to realize that Jackson is not the answer. So, what choice do they have? Morency's injured. Grant's new to the system. They've gotta put their backing behind somebody...Wynn's the only one left who's healthy & ready to play.So, it's not so much a promotion of Wynn as it is a demotion of Jackson...

Well he says that to put a rookie rb in on 3rd downs says alot about his IQ. But tell me this do they even have a choice as to not put a rookie back there? B-Jax= rookie Wynn=Rookie Grant=if i'm not mistaken is a rookie too.That statement could have been made about any one of those guys.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

As Joe likes to say, sometimes an article doesn't say as much about the subject of the article (Wynn, in this case) as it does about his competition (BJax in this case).

I think this is one of those times - the coaches are starting to realize that Jackson is not the answer.

So, what choice do they have? Morency's injured. Grant's new to the system. They've gotta put their backing behind somebody...Wynn's the only one left who's healthy & ready to play.

So, it's not so much a promotion of Wynn as it is a demotion of Jackson...

I think that's about right. Jackson isn't improving or making good reads as far as adjusting his runs. I do think, though, that Wynn is definitely showing the staff something (it's not just Jackson's failings). Here's another quote, this time from McCarthy in a different article, about Wynn's field awareness:"(Wynn) had two touchdown runs; the second one was huge," coach Mike McCarthy said. "The particular situation we were in, the recognition of what he saw defensively and get the ball to the edge like he did, and break the open-field tackle.

http://greenbaypressgazette.packersnews.co...058/PKRFeatures

 

[TheFanatic]

If you read this article below, I think it's pretty apparent that the Packers' coaching staff has Wynn pegged for a large role in the offense now. They are clearly much more confident in his abilities and capacity to improve than Jackson's. Morency, until he can show he is healthy, is an afterthought.

With a great defense and a line that will improve its blocking, I think Wynn is going to be a solid RB in games 4-17. I particularly liked these quotes from the offensive coordinator:

"We'll have to see how to attack San Diego, the best things those guys do well," offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said when asked if Wynn would become the primary back this week. "But certainly DeShawn didn't hurt himself with the way he played."

"You're talking about an extremely talented individual that's applying all that talent, all that hard work, in the film room. Very, very rarely makes a mistake," Bennett said. "Football — OK, this kid is bright. He hardly ever makes a mistake. To see him apply what he's learning in the film room to the practice field and the game field, it's a positive thing. I'll say this also about him — and don't get me wrong, we've got a ton of improvement to make, we're working toward that — but for us to have that type of confidence in a rookie on third down, that speaks volumes about his football IQ."

http://greenbaypressgazette.packersnews.co...=73293845629381

Might wanna really really think about that statement. I'll see if anyone else notices it but thats a pretty empty statement.

Actually, it is an extremely telling statement. Taking a ball and running fast is not hard for any RB that has played at D1 in college. How hard is it to run while holding an oblong leather ball? Not very. What coaches need out their RB's after the ability to run with speed and power is the ability to keep the QB alive on obvious pass plays, like, oh, I don't know, 3rd down a lot of the time. If a guy can stand up a D-Lineman and keep the QB from getting killed heis going to get a chance to run with the rock. The team trusts the kid with the health of Brett Favre. They will trust him to run the ball.

What I am saying is that unless someone starts performing at a reasonable level at RB for the Packers, Wynn is going to get his chance to be that guy. And that is someone to definitely take a WW flier on. Will he run for 1K this year? Will he get a chance to run for 1K? Probably. What has Morency done in his career? Nothing. Who has he ever beaten out for a starting gig? Nobody. Jackson isn't looking good. This thing is wide open. Someone is going to get a shot here. Wynn will get his. He may fall on his face, but you want to snag guys that get that shot. Look what Curtis Marting did with his shot. Terrell Davis. Where were they drafted?

 

[Tibereas]

Anyone see him play @ Florida? Love to hear your scouting reports on him. TYIA!

 

[SR388]

Let me guess, you just picked him up off waivers?

Unfortunately, no. I tried to, but missed out on him (he went for a little under 30% of our total cap in a dynasty league). I'm just a Packers fan who watches the games and has Jackson and Morency on my roster.

exactly.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Let me guess, you just picked him up off waivers?

Unfortunately, no. I tried to, but missed out on him (he went for a little under 30% of our total cap in a dynasty league). I'm just a Packers fan who watches the games and has Jackson and Morency on my roster.

exactly.

If he had said "I'm just a Florida fan," your post would make more sense.

 

[softball]

They can talk all they want, but after watching the tape TWICE of the Packers Giants game Wynn didn't look too much better than Jackson, as a matter of fact neither guy looked real good to me.

 

[spurs44]

If you read this article below, I think it's pretty apparent that the Packers' coaching staff has Wynn pegged for a large role in the offense now. They are clearly much more confident in his abilities and capacity to improve than Jackson's. Morency, until he can show he is healthy, is an afterthought.

With a great defense and a line that will improve its blocking, I think Wynn is going to be a solid RB in games 4-17. I particularly liked these quotes from the offensive coordinator:

"We'll have to see how to attack San Diego, the best things those guys do well," offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said when asked if Wynn would become the primary back this week. "But certainly DeShawn didn't hurt himself with the way he played."

"You're talking about an extremely talented individual that's applying all that talent, all that hard work, in the film room. Very, very rarely makes a mistake," Bennett said. "Football — OK, this kid is bright. He hardly ever makes a mistake. To see him apply what he's learning in the film room to the practice field and the game field, it's a positive thing. I'll say this also about him — and don't get me wrong, we've got a ton of improvement to make, we're working toward that — but for us to have that type of confidence in a rookie on third down, that speaks volumes about his football IQ."

http://greenbaypressgazette.packersnews.co...=73293845629381

Might wanna really really think about that statement. I'll see if anyone else notices it but thats a pretty empty statement.

Actually, it is an extremely telling statement. Taking a ball and running fast is not hard for any RB that has played at D1 in college. How hard is it to run while holding an oblong leather ball? Not very. What coaches need out their RB's after the ability to run with speed and power is the ability to keep the QB alive on obvious pass plays, like, oh, I don't know, 3rd down a lot of the time. If a guy can stand up a D-Lineman and keep the QB from getting killed heis going to get a chance to run with the rock. The team trusts the kid with the health of Brett Favre. They will trust him to run the ball.

What I am saying is that unless someone starts performing at a reasonable level at RB for the Packers, Wynn is going to get his chance to be that guy. And that is someone to definitely take a WW flier on. Will he run for 1K this year? Will he get a chance to run for 1K? Probably. What has Morency done in his career? Nothing. Who has he ever beaten out for a starting gig? Nobody. Jackson isn't looking good. This thing is wide open. Someone is going to get a shot here. Wynn will get his. He may fall on his face, but you want to snag guys that get that shot. Look what Curtis Marting did with his shot. Terrell Davis. Where were they drafted?

That is exactly one great reason why alot of us play fantasy football. Hey, sometimes you get lucky picking up players that become DIAMONDS IN THE ROUGH and sometimes that luck is first predicated by doing some leg work and going with gut feeling about a player. You ride your superstars you drafted and win championships with diligent pick-ups and adjustments. if you have room, pick him up as your last roster spot. I agree with you, to me the rb situation is not entrenched with anybody right now!

 

[Pipes]

They can talk all they want, but after watching the tape TWICE of the Packers Giants game Wynn didn't look too much better than Jackson, as a matter of fact neither guy looked real good to me.

I hope you're joking about this part.

 

[brednbuddah]

The next two weeks for Wynn will be very telling. GB vs SD then Balt...

 

[minister]

Prediction: DeShawn Wynn runs for less than 500 yards this year.

 

[benm3218]

I think its hilarious how you can tell who owns which guy by the comments....

The guy who owns Jackson says it was a fluke game by Wynn.

The guy who owns Morency knows that he is clearly the only solution for GB.

The guy who picked up Wynn is hoping he is Samkon Gado for a whole yr. (this is me - I picked him up)

BUT - the truth is that Morency is not some awesome RB who is just waiting to be the clearcut starter. He is UNPROVEN people. WHY do you all think he is so incredible?

We have to wait and see as we don't know yet. Jackson has been very bad. (too say that wynn didn't look much better is a cop out - Jackson was bad and Wynn was better, stats and coach speak prove this)

NOW - is Wynn a golden child who is our waiver pickup of the century? Who knows, but lets stop pretending that Morency is the entrenched veteran who is going to take the reigns back inevitably.

 

[fatness]

After 2 games, I don't see how anyone can conclude that The coaches have seen that [rookie running back] is not the answer so they'll turn to [rookie running back] as the solution.

 

[bcr8f]

I think you need more than one good game to make the Hall of Fame.

 

[benm3218]

After 2 games, I don't see how anyone can conclude that The coaches have seen that [rookie running back] is not the answer so they'll turn to [rookie running back] as the solution.

http://greenbaypressgazette.packersnews.co...=73293845629381http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/...ury-update.aspx

Seems to be that way.... the Packers die hards are saying the same thing too.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

After 2 games, I don't see how anyone can conclude that The coaches have seen that [rookie running back] is not the answer so they'll turn to [rookie running back] as the solution.

2 games.And training camps...and preseason games and...

Jackson just has NOT looked good. The fact that it is Wynn (another rookie) being talked about as getting a heavier workload is inconsequential.

Jackson hasn't performed well. He has not shown that he's the answer.

So now they're looking elsewhere.

Not sure what makes this scenario so impossible?

 

[prymetyme25]

After 2 games, I don't see how anyone can conclude that The coaches have seen that [rookie running back] is not the answer so they'll turn to [rookie running back] as the solution.

These guys are rookies and not highly touted rookies to boot so they are gonna have to face an adjustment phase. Premier rookies runners dont seem to have these types of problems(as far as running the ball) but regular rookie rbs have to adjust to the game and find out what style or solution they have to use to be sucessful. I dont have any number or stats in front of me but i dont think that there have been many rookies rbs hit the ground running their first year that weren't already studs.

other than maybe Curtis Martin

 

[jbalicki10]

I think its hilarious how you can tell who owns which guy by the comments....The guy who owns Jackson says it was a fluke game by Wynn.The guy who owns Morency knows that he is clearly the only solution for GB.The guy who picked up Wynn is hoping he is Samkon Gado for a whole yr. (this is me - I picked him up)

I AM THE GUY who owns all three praying for a christmas miracle that will probably never come.....

 

[Tibereas]

So nobody can give any details on how this kid played @ Florida? Instead, this thread is about who owns whom and their reasoning behind their statements. My how the quality of people on this board has gone to a bunch of hens cackling at each other. How about some info on this Wynn character and keeping the crap to yourselves.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

So nobody can give any details on how this kid played @ Florida? Instead, this thread is about who owns whom and their reasoning behind their statements. My how the quality of people on this board has gone to a bunch of hens cackling at each other. How about some info on this Wynn character and keeping the crap to yourselves.

Here was Tony Novak's pre-draft write-up on Wynn prior to the draft from nfldraftguys.com (FYI - Tony listed him as a borderline Day One selection at the time)

He pretty much disappeared after the National Championship, not participating in an all-star game (there was some mention of family issues he had to attend to), but popped back on the grid at the Combine. He ran two sub-4.5 times and had the second-fastest 10-yard split among RBs (1.47). However, between the Combine and Florida’s Pro Day, his other tests were not as impressive. After dropping about five pounds from his listed weight to where he was at the Combine (232), he was all the way down to 218 at Florida’s Pro Day.Wynn is your textbook high-risk, high-reward pick. A highly-touted recruit, he had a rollercoaster career in which his dedication, conditioning, and durability have been questioned. After being undressed by HC Urban Meyer (along with the rest of Florida’s RBs) prior to the season, Wynn responded with positive attitude and solid production that contributed to a National Championship for the Gators (although durability was again a problem during the season). He has the talent to be a feature back, but appears to bring too many question marks for someone to draft him in a spot representative of his potential.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

After 2 games, I don't see how anyone can conclude that The coaches have seen that [rookie running back] is not the answer so they'll turn to [rookie running back] as the solution.

These guys are rookies and not highly touted rookies to boot so they are gonna have to face an adjustment phase. Premier rookies runners dont seem to have these types of problems(as far as running the ball) but regular rookie rbs have to adjust to the game and find out what style or solution they have to use to be sucessful. I dont have any number or stats in front of me but i dont think that there have been many rookies rbs hit the ground running their first year that weren't already studs.

other than maybe Curtis Martin

Maurice Jones-Drew, Leon Washington, Mike Bell down?(and that's just from last year )

 

[Tibereas]

So nobody can give any details on how this kid played @ Florida? Instead, this thread is about who owns whom and their reasoning behind their statements. My how the quality of people on this board has gone to a bunch of hens cackling at each other. How about some info on this Wynn character and keeping the crap to yourselves.

Here was Tony Novak's pre-draft write-up on Wynn prior to the draft from nfldraftguys.com (FYI - Tony listed him as a borderline Day One selection at the time)

He pretty much disappeared after the National Championship, not participating in an all-star game (there was some mention of family issues he had to attend to), but popped back on the grid at the Combine. He ran two sub-4.5 times and had the second-fastest 10-yard split among RBs (1.47). However, between the Combine and Florida’s Pro Day, his other tests were not as impressive. After dropping about five pounds from his listed weight to where he was at the Combine (232), he was all the way down to 218 at Florida’s Pro Day.Wynn is your textbook high-risk, high-reward pick. A highly-touted recruit, he had a rollercoaster career in which his dedication, conditioning, and durability have been questioned. After being undressed by HC Urban Meyer (along with the rest of Florida’s RBs) prior to the season, Wynn responded with positive attitude and solid production that contributed to a National Championship for the Gators (although durability was again a problem during the season). He has the talent to be a feature back, but appears to bring too many question marks for someone to draft him in a spot representative of his potential.

Thanks Ted! Sub 4.5 40 and some size, hmm. Sounds like he responds to a little pressure. Maybe, given a chance, he can run with it as it sounds like has has some raw skills.

 

[Captain Hook]

Might wanna really really think about that statement. I'll see if anyone else notices it but thats a pretty empty statement.

I don't see how that's an empty statement. The offensive coordinator is praising Wynn's football IQ. He certainly hasn't been doing that for his other rookie RB, Jackson, who has been starting up to this point. If you think that's "empty", fine, but I think there's definitely something there.

As Joe likes to say, sometimes an article doesn't say as much about the subject of the article (Wynn, in this case) as it does about his competition (BJax in this case).I think this is one of those times - the coaches are starting to realize that Jackson is not the answer.

So, what choice do they have? Morency's injured. Grant's new to the system. They've gotta put their backing behind somebody...Wynn's the only one left who's healthy & ready to play.

So, it's not so much a promotion of Wynn as it is a demotion of Jackson...

Well he says that to put a rookie rb in on 3rd downs says alot about his IQ. But tell me this do they even have a choice as to not put a rookie back there? B-Jax= rookie Wynn=Rookie Grant=if i'm not mistaken is a rookie too.That statement could have been made about any one of those guys.

Well in fact you are mistaken about that. Ryan Grant is in his third year in the NFL (out of Notre Dame). He was traded to the Packers from the Giants after the pre season.One would think that if the Packers traded for him before the season started, they must have not been totally confident in Morency and Jackson to effectively carry the load.

 

[prymetyme25]

After 2 games, I don't see how anyone can conclude that The coaches have seen that [rookie running back] is not the answer so they'll turn to [rookie running back] as the solution.

These guys are rookies and not highly touted rookies to boot so they are gonna have to face an adjustment phase. Premier rookies runners dont seem to have these types of problems(as far as running the ball) but regular rookie rbs have to adjust to the game and find out what style or solution they have to use to be sucessful. I dont have any number or stats in front of me but i dont think that there have been many rookies rbs hit the ground running their first year that weren't already studs.

other than maybe Curtis Martin

Maurice Jones-Drew, Leon Washington, Mike Bell down?(and that's just from last year )

you might wanna check the first two games of their careers too. other than scoring a TD bell didnt similar to what B-Jax. plus he was in denver.

 

[Traders2001]

After 2 games, I don't see how anyone can conclude that The coaches have seen that [rookie running back] is not the answer so they'll turn to [rookie running back] as the solution.

Agreed , i am not comparing anyone to anyone but lots of RB had a tough time the first two weeks of the season , good that LT is nt a rookie cause all those negative posters would say he is a bust .I think you need more then 2 weeks to make a judgment on a rookie RB with a bad OL.

 

[ookook]

Who says Morency will not be ready any time soon?

I think he will be back by Week 4. And if he can stay healthy, will get 55% of the carries. Wynn may well get the lion's share of what is left over, but...

 

[BRONG]

They can talk all they want, but after watching the tape TWICE of the Packers Giants game Wynn didn't look too much better than Jackson, as a matter of fact neither guy looked real good to me.

I hope you're joking about this part.

 

[Traders2001]

After 2 games, I don't see how anyone can conclude that The coaches have seen that [rookie running back] is not the answer so they'll turn to [rookie running back] as the solution.

2 games.And training camps...and preseason games and...

Jackson just has NOT looked good. The fact that it is Wynn (another rookie) being talked about as getting a heavier workload is inconsequential.

Jackson hasn't performed well. He has not shown that he's the answer.

So now they're looking elsewhere.

Not sure what makes this scenario so impossible?

Jackson ( And i am a Wynn owner ) looked good in two out of 3 pre season games . ( He got stopped badly by the Jags in his last pre season game ) .Then faced a tough Philly defense ( I watched the game and there was zero holes , guys were in the backfield on every play, the OL could move the DL back 1 inch )

Then vs the Giants he started of well but the GB offense is so predictible i am no expert but i can guess 90% when it will be run or pass , so if i can do that the defensive players have a easy time stopping the run .

No imagination whetever in the GB running game . Morency would not do any better , aniway Morency's upside if he comes back is third down back that s what it is .

So i say they will give the kid at least 8 games to prove himself , of course Wynn will have more carries but i bet you that Jackson will start next game and if he runs well from the beginning Wynn wont see the ball much , if he struggles then they will try Wynn.

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

After 2 games, I don't see how anyone can conclude that The coaches have seen that [rookie running back] is not the answer so they'll turn to [rookie running back] as the solution.

These guys are rookies and not highly touted rookies to boot so they are gonna have to face an adjustment phase. Premier rookies runners dont seem to have these types of problems(as far as running the ball) but regular rookie rbs have to adjust to the game and find out what style or solution they have to use to be sucessful. I dont have any number or stats in front of me but i dont think that there have been many rookies rbs hit the ground running their first year that weren't already studs.

other than maybe Curtis Martin

Maurice Jones-Drew, Leon Washington, Mike Bell down?(and that's just from last year )

you might wanna check the first two games of their careers too. other than scoring a TD bell didnt similar to what B-Jax. plus he was in denver.

I'm not going to get into a bicker battle with you, since we're not exactly talking apples-to-apples (only Mike Bell started game 1 of their rookie season).But let's just say that once each of those 3 guys was getting the number of carries that Jackson has gotten these two games for the Packers, they all outperformed him...by a longshot.

Even Mike Bell in games 1-2 was a fair amount better (4.4ypc) than what BJax (2.3 ypc) has been in his games 1-2.

Mike Bell:

| WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  1  stl  |   10	58  |	30  |  1 ||  2  kan  |   13	44  |	12  |  0 |

Brandon Jackson:

+----------+-------------+--------+----+| WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  1  phi  |   15	40  |	35  |  0 ||  2  nyg  |   17	35  |	24  |  0

 

[davearm]

If you read this article below, I think it's pretty apparent that the Packers' coaching staff has Wynn pegged for a large role in the offense now. They are clearly much more confident in his abilities and capacity to improve than Jackson's. Morency, until he can show he is healthy, is an afterthought.

With a great defense and a line that will improve its blocking, I think Wynn is going to be a solid RB in games 4-17. I particularly liked these quotes from the offensive coordinator:

"We'll have to see how to attack San Diego, the best things those guys do well," offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said when asked if Wynn would become the primary back this week. "But certainly DeShawn didn't hurt himself with the way he played."

"You're talking about an extremely talented individual that's applying all that talent, all that hard work, in the film room. Very, very rarely makes a mistake," Bennett said. "Football — OK, this kid is bright. He hardly ever makes a mistake. To see him apply what he's learning in the film room to the practice field and the game field, it's a positive thing. I'll say this also about him — and don't get me wrong, we've got a ton of improvement to make, we're working toward that — but for us to have that type of confidence in a rookie on third down, that speaks volumes about his football IQ."

http://greenbaypressgazette.packersnews.co...=73293845629381

Might wanna really really think about that statement. I'll see if anyone else notices it but thats a pretty empty statement.

Actually, it is an extremely telling statement. Taking a ball and running fast is not hard for any RB that has played at D1 in college. How hard is it to run while holding an oblong leather ball? Not very. What coaches need out their RB's after the ability to run with speed and power is the ability to keep the QB alive on obvious pass plays, like, oh, I don't know, 3rd down a lot of the time. If a guy can stand up a D-Lineman and keep the QB from getting killed heis going to get a chance to run with the rock. The team trusts the kid with the health of Brett Favre. They will trust him to run the ball.

What I am saying is that unless someone starts performing at a reasonable level at RB for the Packers, Wynn is going to get his chance to be that guy. And that is someone to definitely take a WW flier on. Will he run for 1K this year? Will he get a chance to run for 1K? Probably. What has Morency done in his career? Nothing. Who has he ever beaten out for a starting gig? Nobody. Jackson isn't looking good. This thing is wide open. Someone is going to get a shot here. Wynn will get his. He may fall on his face, but you want to snag guys that get that shot. Look what Curtis Marting did with his shot. Terrell Davis. Where were they drafted?

When you consider the Packers' other alternatives at present are another rookie (Jackson), a guy that's been with the team for under a month (Grant), and just going empty backfield and throwing all day, you can begin to appreciate why perhaps there's not much meat in Coach Philbin's statement.They may indeed be thrilled with Wynn and have great trust and confidence in him.

Or, maybe he's simply the lesser of all evils; the guy that minimizes the probability of a complete catastrophe.

Given the nature of coachspeak, the latter is a completely reasonable conclusion.

 

[softball]

They can talk all they want, but after watching the tape TWICE of the Packers Giants game Wynn didn't look too much better than Jackson, as a matter of fact neither guy looked real good to me.

I hope you're joking about this part.

LOLNope no joke, I watch them all twice. Superfan and TiVo combined are like Jenna Jameison and Amber Lynn in the same room....

 

[TxBuckeye]

All the FF sites seem to be loving him as a pickup this week.

 

[BRONG]

All the FF sites seem to be loving him as a pickup this week.

Maybe because there is no one to pick up.

 

[BRONG]

They can talk all they want, but after watching the tape TWICE of the Packers Giants game Wynn didn't look too much better than Jackson, as a matter of fact neither guy looked real good to me.

I hope you're joking about this part.

LOLNope no joke, I watch them all twice. Superfan and TiVo combined are like Jenna Jameison and Amber Lynn in the same room....

Hold on, you watch EVERY game. TWICE!?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I own Wynn in several leagues so I don't think I should make a post about how good or bad he is.

 

[MOAT]

Wynn only needs to take every carry to the house to get his 1000 yds.

IMO nobody in GB has demonstrated a knack for running the ball. If someone shows up and is dominate they will have a good year. Most likely GB will be a RBBC all year as they try to figure out who they want in the future (if any).

Also, remember that anyone that runs for GB will be running against CHI and MN twice each. Both are good run Ds.