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Predictions on Peterson's Suspension this yr (1 Viewer)

How Long this yr

  • Just deactivated for this game, will tie up in the legal system for the rest of the yr

    Votes: 84 20.1%
  • 1 - 2 games

    Votes: 36 8.6%
  • 3 - 4 games

    Votes: 49 11.7%
  • 5 - 8 games

    Votes: 112 26.8%
  • Indefinitely

    Votes: 137 32.8%

  • Total voters
    418
Just checking, but isnt the point of this thread to talk about what the league will do?? Not what you think they SHOULD do??

Strangely, I think Peterson gets less of a punishment than Rice. I am gonna say he gets the 6 games, and that this week does NOT count towards that, so 7 games total.

 
So he thinks beating a kid who is 4 is a good way to discipline him? What a ####### idiot. I hope he gets the lifetime ban. I really really do. #### him. Piece of ####. How is hitting a 4 year old in the scrotum with a stick not a lifetime ban?

 
Keep in mind everyone, this is a felony in Texas and by looking at the definition of the charge the jury will ultimately be given, this doesn't look good for AP...

According to Texas law, a person can be convicted of injury to a child if they are proven to have caused bodily or mental injury "intentionally, knowingly, recklessly or with criminal negligence" or causing such harm by omission.

I'm no lawyer, but Rice's case was a similar assault charge (except it wasn't a child) and he won't even have it on his record if he stays out of trouble for 12 months. He still got suspended indefinitely and basically banished due to public perception. I don't see this being much different. Maybe AP will get better treatment because he came clean from the beginning and doesn't seem to be denying anything he did, but I think that is unlikely. It will definitely stir up a debate over the next week about proper parenting and ultimately lead to more of a spotlight on the NFL.

I'm guessing 8 games to a year suspension.
Except public perception thusfar has been VERY different from the Rice case. Many are also forgetting that it took around 4 months from the time of Rice's indictment before the NFL actually handed out that 2 game suspension. People expecting swift justice are going to be disappointed.
I agree, but the news was released on a Friday and the majority of the general public has yet to have a chance to even digest this. This isn't even "water-cooler" status yet. We, as fantasy football enthusiasts, are all over this. Does that annoying secretary at your office that never shuts up know about this? How about your average taxi driver that likes to have random conversations about current events?

Just wait until people hear about Peterson's 2-year-old son and the, what media may call it, "mysterious" circumstances of his death. Media is a scary thing because that situation has yet to be brought up and nobody really knows what happened nor will anyone be able to prove anything one way or the other. However; that doesn't matter because people believe what they want to believe. When mainstream media gets ahold of that piece, you can kiss anything that may be left of APs reputation goodbye. Adrian Peterson has no control over how that will be talked about and how the media will try to spin it. It's an extremely sad story, but this is the world we live in. People want ratings and that is what they will get.... by any means necessary.

Based on what I've seen and what I know about mainstream media, I believe AP is totally f###ed. The NFL will ultimately have to succumb to the pressures of society. Honestly, I hope I'm wrong because I truly despise the way information is reported these days and how people spit out "facts" that aren't always facts.

 
So he thinks beating a kid who is 4 is a good way to discipline him? What a ####### idiot. I hope he gets the lifetime ban. I really really do. #### him. Piece of ####. How is hitting a 4 year old in the scrotum with a stick not a lifetime ban?
"muh culture and heritage"

 
Keep in mind everyone, this is a felony in Texas and by looking at the definition of the charge the jury will ultimately be given, this doesn't look good for AP...

According to Texas law, a person can be convicted of injury to a child if they are proven to have caused bodily or mental injury "intentionally, knowingly, recklessly or with criminal negligence" or causing such harm by omission.

I'm no lawyer, but Rice's case was a similar assault charge (except it wasn't a child) and he won't even have it on his record if he stays out of trouble for 12 months. He still got suspended indefinitely and basically banished due to public perception. I don't see this being much different. Maybe AP will get better treatment because he came clean from the beginning and doesn't seem to be denying anything he did, but I think that is unlikely. It will definitely stir up a debate over the next week about proper parenting and ultimately lead to more of a spotlight on the NFL.

I'm guessing 8 games to a year suspension.
Except public perception thusfar has been VERY different from the Rice case. Many are also forgetting that it took around 4 months from the time of Rice's indictment before the NFL actually handed out that 2 game suspension. People expecting swift justice are going to be disappointed.
I agree, but the news was released on a Friday and the majority of the general public has yet to have a chance to even digest this. This isn't even "water-cooler" status yet. We, as fantasy football enthusiasts, are all over this. Does that annoying secretary at your office that never shuts up know about this? How about your average taxi driver that likes to have random conversations about current events?

Just wait until people hear about Peterson's 2-year-old son and the, what media may call it, "mysterious" circumstances of his death. Media is a scary thing because that situation has yet to be brought up and nobody really knows what happened nor will anyone be able to prove anything one way or the other. However; that doesn't matter because people believe what they want to believe. When mainstream media gets ahold of that piece, you can kiss anything that may be left of APs reputation goodbye. Adrian Peterson has no control over how that will be talked about and how the media will try to spin it. It's an extremely sad story, but this is the world we live in. People want ratings and that is what they will get.... by any means necessary.

Based on what I've seen and what I know about mainstream media, I believe AP is totally f###ed. The NFL will ultimately have to succumb to the pressures of society. Honestly, I hope I'm wrong because I truly despise the way information is reported these days and how people spit out "facts" that aren't always facts.
I hope the media destroy this knucklehead (provided these aren't fake photos and he actually beat his 4 year old with a stick). I hope they leave him penniless.

 
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it'll be interesting if they let him back in building tomorrow, if hes on the sidelines in tomorrows game then I say hes playing again this yr.

 
it'll be interesting if they let him back in building tomorrow, if hes on the sidelines in tomorrows game then I say hes playing again this yr.
Well I mean he's getting paid for the game, he's deactivated not suspended. I don't see why they would pay him a salary but not let him in the building.

 
Sabertooth said:
So he thinks beating a kid who is 4 is a good way to discipline him? What a ####### idiot. I hope he gets the lifetime ban. I really really do. #### him. Piece of ####. How is hitting a 4 year old in the scrotum with a stick not a lifetime ban?
I am positive if he wore a Green Bay uniform you wouldn't be so appalled.

 
ghostguy123 said:
Just checking, but isnt the point of this thread to talk about what the league will do?? Not what you think they SHOULD do??

Strangely, I think Peterson gets less of a punishment than Rice. I am gonna say he gets the 6 games, and that this week does NOT count towards that, so 7 games total.
And he will be released by the Vikings

 
ghostguy123 said:
Just checking, but isnt the point of this thread to talk about what the league will do?? Not what you think they SHOULD do??

Strangely, I think Peterson gets less of a punishment than Rice. I am gonna say he gets the 6 games, and that this week does NOT count towards that, so 7 games total.
And he will be released by the Vikings
I don't think he will. He sure might, but if I had to put money on it one way or another, I say they dont release him.

Heck, just the cap ramifications along. Nah.

 
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ghostguy123 said:
Just checking, but isnt the point of this thread to talk about what the league will do?? Not what you think they SHOULD do??

Strangely, I think Peterson gets less of a punishment than Rice. I am gonna say he gets the 6 games, and that this week does NOT count towards that, so 7 games total.
And he will be released by the Vikings
I don't think he will. He sure might, but if I had to put money on it one way or another, I say they dont release him.

Heck, just the cap ramifications along. Nah.
It doesn't really matter. He wouldn't be on the market long.

 
ghostguy123 said:
Just checking, but isnt the point of this thread to talk about what the league will do?? Not what you think they SHOULD do??

Strangely, I think Peterson gets less of a punishment than Rice. I am gonna say he gets the 6 games, and that this week does NOT count towards that, so 7 games total.
One other thing to keep in mind is that thusfar reactions from other NFL players have not been overly negative. And the NFLPA is made of ex-players, older players specifically that probably have more exposure to "old school" discipline. It is likely the NFLPA will focus on an official line of rehabilitation vs. punishment in this case.

Again, Goodell has a tricky situation here with the union and the actual court of law. I think the only way he can suspend AP THIS SEASON is via the generic personal conduct policy similar to big ben's suspension. Thusfar that has been the only incidence of where a suspension preceded the conclusion of legal proceedings. However judging by the idleness in respective to McDonald and Hardy, I don't see it. I also think the prosecution's legal case is borked due to all the leaked information. AP will likely plead to a misdemeanor sometime in the offseason.

The most likely reason to miss games this season will come from the Vikings themselves. Again, I also think the Vikings will take the official stance of rehabilitation vs. punishment. My guess is they give him an "extended leave for personal reasons" from the team. (similar to Aldon Smith last season though probably for a longer duration) They will also likely issue a statement similar to the following:

"The Minnesota vikings deeply regret the actions of Adrian and the injuries to his son... However we consider the viking organization to be a family and it would we believe in standing by him during a time of hardship as he rehabilitates from deeply rooted and enculturation that are no longer socially acceptable. We believe that family comes first, and therefore Adrian will be on indefinite leave to rebuild his relationship with his children and family."

The longest the team can technically suspend AP I believe is 4 weeks. I'm currently expecting him to miss about a month with a possible suspension next season from the NFL (though I don't think this is likely this season or next)

 
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How has Rice not sued the NFL for collusion? I mean the guy is a scumbag for what he did but I feel like he has all grounds to go: this was the determined course of action, all evidence was given to them and now the league has changed the punishment and terminated my contract even though similar or worse cases exist and the players have their livelihood. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

 
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I know theres a thread going on but lets try to talk about the Fantasy Aspect. How long do you expect him to be suspended / shutdown this yr.

A couple of notes,

*he admitted everything to police and Grand Jury but also said he does this routinely so did rice

*1st Grand Jury refused to indict him

*there will be a media uproar over the pics on Monday as for rice

*legal action will most likely be pushed off until the off-season rice-no legal action got probation
 
It blows my mind for such a high profile and well compensated union that the commissioner has such control over individual situations.

 
ghostguy123 said:
Just checking, but isnt the point of this thread to talk about what the league will do?? Not what you think they SHOULD do??

Strangely, I think Peterson gets less of a punishment than Rice. I am gonna say he gets the 6 games, and that this week does NOT count towards that, so 7 games total.
I've been around on this and I'm thinking the 6/7 game thing makes the most sense now. Somehow the NFL will be conscious of not being accused of inconsistency yet again and will apply the Rice 6 game rule. It's too public and too soon and he's too famous.

 
ummm, really? I don't see the NFL doing any thing more to hurt the shield. Indefinite suspension IMO. No matter a persons personal view on if this was/is child abuse (and we, the public, don't know enough to do anything other then speculate), the NFL can't risk another black eye by going soft on a potential child abuser. Even 6 games is soft on the heals/midst of the RR situation. They tried that approach (the changing of discipline guidelines, after popular opinion and twitter) with a potential spousal abuser..........Child abuse is unforgivable (not that spousal isn't) and stirs strong emotions with the public and sponsors that respond to public opinion and social media trends.

Raiderfan32904 said:
Just a hunch, and this does not necessarily jive with my POV or level of outrage, but I think Peterson misses no more than the six game first infraction penalty. Goodell can't keep changing the rules based on popular opinion polls or what's trending on twitter.
 
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i don't see how the NFL goes light here. The media and general public will crucify them based on what's going on now. Nobody in the media is going to disagree with a long/indefinite suspension and risk their job supporting Peterson.

They can give him an indefinite suspension and reevaluate later on. Even if Peterson sues and wins millions it's pocket change for the NFL.

Doubt they put a number of games on his suspension, it will be indefinite to give them wiggle room.

 
i don't see how the NFL goes light here. The media and general public will crucify them based on what's going on now. Nobody in the media is going to disagree with a long/indefinite suspension and risk their job supporting Peterson.

They can give him an indefinite suspension and reevaluate later on. Even if Peterson sues and wins millions it's pocket change for the NFL.

Doubt they put a number of games on his suspension, it will be indefinite to give them wiggle room.
Ok when people say "indefinite" I usually think a year or almost a year. But "Indefinite" could still end up 6-8 games, no?

 
ghostguy123 said:
Just checking, but isnt the point of this thread to talk about what the league will do?? Not what you think they SHOULD do??

Strangely, I think Peterson gets less of a punishment than Rice. I am gonna say he gets the 6 games, and that this week does NOT count towards that, so 7 games total.
One other thing to keep in mind is that thusfar reactions from other NFL players have not been overly negative. And the NFLPA is made of ex-players, older players specifically that probably have more exposure to "old school" discipline. It is likely the NFLPA will focus on an official line of rehabilitation vs. punishment in this case.

Again, Goodell has a tricky situation here with the union and the actual court of law. I think the only way he can suspend AP THIS SEASON is via the generic personal conduct policy similar to big ben's suspension. Thusfar that has been the only incidence of where a suspension preceded the conclusion of legal proceedings. However judging by the idleness in respective to McDonald and Hardy, I don't see it. I also think the prosecution's legal case is borked due to all the leaked information. AP will likely plead to a misdemeanor sometime in the offseason.

The most likely reason to miss games this season will come from the Vikings themselves. Again, I also think the Vikings will take the official stance of rehabilitation vs. punishment. My guess is they give him an "extended leave for personal reasons" from the team. (similar to Aldon Smith last season though probably for a longer duration) They will also likely issue a statement similar to the following:

"The Minnesota vikings deeply regret the actions of Adrian and the injuries to his son... However we consider the viking organization to be a family and it would we believe in standing by him during a time of hardship as he rehabilitates from deeply rooted and enculturation that are no longer socially acceptable. We believe that family comes first, and therefore Adrian will be on indefinite leave to rebuild his relationship with his children and family."

The longest the team can technically suspend AP I believe is 4 weeks. I'm currently expecting him to miss about a month with a possible suspension next season from the NFL (though I don't think this is likely this season or next)
This clearly was not old school discipline being enforced. Stuffing leaves in a child's mouth and beating him to where he has open wounds goes far beyond any reasonable old school discipline, plus what did the 4 year old do? He pushed his older brother-so that merits a beat down by a very strong pro athlete? Right. They don't need to wait for the judicial system for due process for him to be tried by the courts since he has admitted he did it. No matter what the outcome of his upcoming court case he has admitted to beating his child on the record. I see an indefinite suspension by both the Vikings and the NFL after they complete their own internal investigation. Perhaps after a lot of counseling and his future court punishment they may let him back in but because of the way the Ray Rice incident happened they aren't going to make it easy for him to get back in this year.

 
i don't see how the NFL goes light here. The media and general public will crucify them based on what's going on now. Nobody in the media is going to disagree with a long/indefinite suspension and risk their job supporting Peterson.

They can give him an indefinite suspension and reevaluate later on. Even if Peterson sues and wins millions it's pocket change for the NFL.

Doubt they put a number of games on his suspension, it will be indefinite to give them wiggle room.
Ok when people say "indefinite" I usually think a year or almost a year. But "Indefinite" could still end up 6-8 games, no?
yes sir. Let's them look like they are taking it seriously and as ILUVBEER stated, it gives them plenty of wiggle room.

 
How has Rice not sued the NFL for collusion? I mean the guy is a scumbag for what he did but I feel like he has all grounds to go: this was the determined course of action, all evidence was given to them and now the league has changed the punishment and terminated my contract even though similar or worse cases exist and the players have their livelihood. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.
they said the PA is getting ready to file

 
Sabertooth said:
So he thinks beating a kid who is 4 is a good way to discipline him? What a ####### idiot. I hope he gets the lifetime ban. I really really do. #### him. Piece of ####. How is hitting a 4 year old in the scrotum with a stick not a lifetime ban?
I am positive if he wore a Green Bay uniform you wouldn't be so appalled.
Sabertooth said:
So he thinks beating a kid who is 4 is a good way to discipline him? What a ####### idiot. I hope he gets the lifetime ban. I really really do. #### him. Piece of ####. How is hitting a 4 year old in the scrotum with a stick not a lifetime ban?
I am positive if he wore a Green Bay uniform you wouldn't be so appalled.
Sabertooth said:
So he thinks beating a kid who is 4 is a good way to discipline him? What a ####### idiot. I hope he gets the lifetime ban. I really really do. #### him. Piece of ####. How is hitting a 4 year old in the scrotum with a stick not a lifetime ban?
I am positive if he wore a Green Bay uniform you wouldn't be so appalled.
you are wrong. This is way over a line with me. Something about attacks on kids just makes me sick. It's just so wrong to beat somebody who is 1/5 your size. Kids are so defenseless. So trusting. And to beat one with a stick like he allegedly did just reduces my opinion of him to lower than dirt. Big badass there. Real ####### role model. Let's stick the kids we are supposed to be watching in front of a video game and then beat them with a stick when they don't behave. I'll be over here on my phone setting up my next booty call. How many kids does Adrian have anyway?

 
NFL = No Fn Logic when it comes to these punishments.

Beating a 4 year old with a stick is at least the equivalent of a left hook to an adult female. At least. To me it is significantly worse.

That may not be the way it plays out, but I'd have a hard time rooting for Peterson if I were a Vikings fan.

I can't see them trotting him out there for a good long time. If I'm not mistaken the presence of a child during an incidence of DV is considered an aggravating variable...violence directed at a child has to be a step further.
FYI...I can pull photo after photo from Peterson's Twitter and other social media feeds that show him time and time again doing wonderful things for kids that are not his. I'm not condoning or forgiving him but as mad as you are at him and rightly so, let's also not forget that Peterson does a lot of good for disadvantage kids and has an awful lot of photos taken of him making a difference way before these recent charges. In general he looks like he takes the time with a lot of young NFL fans. I don't believe in my heart that Peterson thought what he did was wrong. I still believe Peterson should be punished and at the very least the new 6 game mandatory domestic violence consequence should be upheld by the Commisioner who implemented these new punishments.What are we talking here? Are folks thinking that Peterson should have his children taken away or lose parental rights? Think about what you are suggesting in regards to all the other kids that are not Peterson's but victims of domestic abuse by a parent. Where do these kids go? Some folks seem to be under the misguided notion that adults are just waiting to take these kids in. Maybe a few of you would instantly jump to take in this child but understand that most of the time social services does not want to break up families. There are a lot of unwanted kids in this country with no parents to take care of them, I hope some of this outrage sparks a few of you to adopt some of these needy kids from abusive homes.
Maybe I missed this if already post, but what is his relationship with the boy? Is he his biological father, step-father...I wonder if this is a son he raises on a day to day basis. I remember he had one son that was killed by the mothers boyfriend; I think he was 2, and aside from child support, he had nothing to do with that child.

 
Sounds to me like he was the primary care giver when this abuse allegedly occurred. It would make sense then that he is/was somewhat involved with this child from a custody standpoint.

 
Taking a step back, I don't think the NFL suspends him before the trial. Now, that is not to say the Vikings don't keep him off the field (doubt they cut him w/o the NFL taking action having him claimed by another team). His trial is now said to be held next year. The Vikings were apparently aware of this situation since May, and Peterson still practiced, dressed, and played. Nothing has changed except that the details were released to the public. Like many have speculated, I believe AD's deactivation is based on having to turn himself in on Thursday.

If AD gets suspended, it will be because of a knee jerk reaction to public opinion based on the leaked photos. They would also be motivated b/c AD is a high profile player. Really, have a mess on their hands because to this date, Ray McDonald and Greg Hardy (previously convicted) are still active and playing, but they take preemptive action against AD?

How has Rice not sued the NFL for collusion? I mean the guy is a scumbag for what he did but I feel like he has all grounds to go: this was the determined course of action, all evidence was given to them and now the league has changed the punishment and terminated my contract even though similar or worse cases exist and the players have their livelihood. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.
Assuming he is not black balled (we're starting to hear support for Ray Rice, a la Reggie Bush) his best case is probably to take this year off and apply for reinstatement next season. It is hard seeing anyone picking him up this season based on all of the negative press. But if he sues, it could set off a chain reaction where Rice gets black balled and he hurts his bottom line.

PS, Adam Schefter is one hell of a hypocrite this morning... Ray Rice should get crucified b/c he hit his wife, Ray McDonald's situation is not the same as Ray Rice's?!

 
I think AP will be on the field after a 6 week suspension. The short attention span of the public helps. Just look at The Fappening. At the time it was like the world was ending for those starlets. Now? Its forgotten already.

 
After Goodell screwed up with Rice suspension he won't make that mistake with Peterson AND this involves a kid. He's not coming back this season.

 
GM Rick Speilman's quote here is interesting:

We are, as an organization, still in the process of gathering information, and at the end of the weekend we will discuss what we will do going forward, Spielman said. You dont want to make any kneejerk reactions. All options are on the table. You cant take any options off the table because were still gathering information.
Maybe nothing, but it hints at the fact that quick, decisive action(s) has(have) been contemplated within the organization. Perhaps they do nothing. But, I strongly doubt that. My prediction is they either suspend him 4 games, outright release him, or trade him to a team in the South where child abuse is a more widely accepted (and legal) practice than it is in Minnesota. In the latter scenario, they use the suspension to buy shopping hours to trade and get rid of him without the salary cap hit.
 
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If Goodell wants to keep his job this is the kind of stuff he needs to come out and say:

- Domestic violence is a serious problem in this country that has been brushed under the rug in the past. This is an opportunity to examine this issue and take steps to advance how we as society will deal with the problem.

- The NFL is as guilty as anyone in not properly addressing the issue. We are in the process of listening to the national discussion and come up with better policies which will address the issue in a more appropriate way and we are hoping this will help advance how we as society deal with this difficult and sensative issue.

- whereas we need to take steps which have significant consequence, we also need to realize being too harsh will further damage the victims and may be counterproductive. We can not resort to zero-tolerance type of policies which only serves to take common sense and circumstances out of the equation. We need policies which balance the punishment to the offender with the well-being of the family.

 
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GM Rick Speilman's quote here is interesting:

We are, as an organization, still in the process of gathering information, and at the end of the weekend we will discuss what we will do going forward, Spielman said. You dont want to make any kneejerk reactions. All options are on the table. You cant take any options off the table because were still gathering information.
Maybe nothing, but it hints at the fact that quick, decisive action(s) has(have) been contemplated within the organization. Perhaps they do nothing. But, I strongly doubt that. My prediction is they either suspend him 4 games, outright release him, or trade him to a team in the South where child abuse is a more widely accepted (and legal) practice than it is in Minnesota. In the latter scenario, they use the suspension to buy shopping hours to trade and get rid of him without the salary cap hit.
Making a decision based on unlawfully leaked photos plus ray rice fallout is "knee-jerk reacting", which is obviously what they are going to do.

 
GM Rick Speilman's quote here is interesting:

We are, as an organization, still in the process of gathering information, and at the end of the weekend we will discuss what we will do going forward, Spielman said. You dont want to make any kneejerk reactions. All options are on the table. You cant take any options off the table because were still gathering information.
Maybe nothing, but it hints at the fact that quick, decisive action(s) has(have) been contemplated within the organization. Perhaps they do nothing. But, I strongly doubt that. My prediction is they either suspend him 4 games, outright release him, or trade him to a team in the South where child abuse is a more widely accepted (and legal) practice than it is in Minnesota. In the latter scenario, they use the suspension to buy shopping hours to trade and get rid of him without the salary cap hit.
Making a decision based on unlawfully leaked photos plus ray rice fallout is "knee-jerk reacting", which is obviously what they are going to do.
Well, don't forget the admission by Peterson.

 
The ESPN football crew is excoriating Peterson this Sunday morning. Each member of the panel is revisiting his own memories of childhood whippings, and to a man they are condemning AD's actions as torture.

I want to change my vote from "1 to 2 games" to "life in prison". He's toast.

 
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GM Rick Speilman's quote here is interesting:

We are, as an organization, still in the process of gathering information, and at the end of the weekend we will discuss what we will do going forward, Spielman said. You dont want to make any kneejerk reactions. All options are on the table. You cant take any options off the table because were still gathering information.
Maybe nothing, but it hints at the fact that quick, decisive action(s) has(have) been contemplated within the organization. Perhaps they do nothing. But, I strongly doubt that. My prediction is they either suspend him 4 games, outright release him, or trade him to a team in the South where child abuse is a more widely accepted (and legal) practice than it is in Minnesota. In the latter scenario, they use the suspension to buy shopping hours to trade and get rid of him without the salary cap hit.
Making a decision based on unlawfully leaked photos plus ray rice fallout is "knee-jerk reacting", which is obviously what they are going to do.
Well, don't forget the admission by Peterson.
pretty meaningless. you are saying if he lied, he'd be more likely to play soon?

 
Interestingly, the old white guy on the set was the only one who said anything that could be construed as somewhat of a defense of AP. But, yeah, that was a really impassioned segment. Tom Jackson was spot freaking on, too.

 
The ESPN football crew is excoriating Peterson this Sunday morning. Each member of the panel is revisiting his own memories of childhood whippings, and to a man they are condemning AD's actions as torture.

I want to change my vote from "1 to 2 games" to "life in prison". He's toast.
Keyshawn understands. But Ray Lewis man... It's only abuse if there are bruises? wtf?

 
GM Rick Speilman's quote here is interesting:

We are, as an organization, still in the process of gathering information, and at the end of the weekend we will discuss what we will do going forward, Spielman said. You dont want to make any kneejerk reactions. All options are on the table. You cant take any options off the table because were still gathering information.
Maybe nothing, but it hints at the fact that quick, decisive action(s) has(have) been contemplated within the organization. Perhaps they do nothing. But, I strongly doubt that. My prediction is they either suspend him 4 games, outright release him, or trade him to a team in the South where child abuse is a more widely accepted (and legal) practice than it is in Minnesota. In the latter scenario, they use the suspension to buy shopping hours to trade and get rid of him without the salary cap hit.
Making a decision based on unlawfully leaked photos plus ray rice fallout is "knee-jerk reacting", which is obviously what they are going to do.
Well, don't forget the admission by Peterson.
pretty meaningless. you are saying if he lied, he'd be more likely to play soon?
Pretty meaningful, actually. If he lied, it raises doubts about whether the child abuse was inflicted by him or someone else. And that then requires a more rigorous investigation. However, his admission removes all doubt. Now, it all comes down to a question of who tolerates abuse of a 4 year old child. I don't suspect the Vikings organization or the league will be interested in being so associated.
 
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NFL = No Fn Logic when it comes to these punishments.

Beating a 4 year old with a stick is at least the equivalent of a left hook to an adult female. At least. To me it is significantly worse.

That may not be the way it plays out, but I'd have a hard time rooting for Peterson if I were a Vikings fan.

I can't see them trotting him out there for a good long time. If I'm not mistaken the presence of a child during an incidence of DV is considered an aggravating variable...violence directed at a child has to be a step further.
FYI...I can pull photo after photo from Peterson's Twitter and other social media feeds that show him time and time again doing wonderful things for kids that are not his. I'm not condoning or forgiving him but as mad as you are at him and rightly so, let's also not forget that Peterson does a lot of good for disadvantage kids and has an awful lot of photos taken of him making a difference way before these recent charges. In general he looks like he takes the time with a lot of young NFL fans. I don't believe in my heart that Peterson thought what he did was wrong. I still believe Peterson should be punished and at the very least the new 6 game mandatory domestic violence consequence should be upheld by the Commisioner who implemented these new punishments.What are we talking here? Are folks thinking that Peterson should have his children taken away or lose parental rights? Think about what you are suggesting in regards to all the other kids that are not Peterson's but victims of domestic abuse by a parent. Where do these kids go? Some folks seem to be under the misguided notion that adults are just waiting to take these kids in. Maybe a few of you would instantly jump to take in this child but understand that most of the time social services does not want to break up families. There are a lot of unwanted kids in this country with no parents to take care of them, I hope some of this outrage sparks a few of you to adopt some of these needy kids from abusive homes.
Maybe I missed this if already post, but what is his relationship with the boy? Is he his biological father, step-father...I wonder if this is a son he raises on a day to day basis. I remember he had one son that was killed by the mothers boyfriend; I think he was 2, and aside from child support, he had nothing to do with that child.
It doesn't matter what his relationship is with the child. It is child abuse. This was not a casual spanking with a switch. It was extreme punishment for a 4 year old who simply pushed his older brother. Stuffing leaves in a 4 year olds mouth is abuse. Inflicting multiple open wounds on his body is abuse. Hitting him in the scrotum is abuse. He needs to be one until he gets appropriate punishment and treatment.

 
The ESPN football crew is excoriating Peterson this Sunday morning. Each member of the panel is revisiting his own memories of childhood whippings, and to a man they are condemning AD's actions as torture.

I want to change my vote from "1 to 2 games" to "life in prison". He's toast.
Keyshawn understands. But Ray Lewis man... It's only abuse if there are bruises? wtf?
well, that's basically true, isn't it? if there weren't visible markings, it wouldn't matter how hard peterson hit his kid.

 
i don't see how the NFL goes light here. The media and general public will crucify them based on what's going on now. Nobody in the media is going to disagree with a long/indefinite suspension and risk their job supporting Peterson.

They can give him an indefinite suspension and reevaluate later on. Even if Peterson sues and wins millions it's pocket change for the NFL.

Doubt they put a number of games on his suspension, it will be indefinite to give them wiggle room.
Ok when people say "indefinite" I usually think a year or almost a year. But "Indefinite" could still end up 6-8 games, no?
Definitely.

 
Currently only 30% of those polled believe he will be out longer than 8 games.

Given those odds, I should hold on to him for my fantasy playoffs.

 
Goodell is going to look like a moron no matter how he handles this and that is why he shouldn't be running the NFL anymore.

 
But this is about more than the legal system. Texas courts do not determine his availability to play in the NFL. Ray Rice beat the legal system.

J
I would disagree that Ray Rice "beat" the legal system. Ray Rice went through the legal system, admitted guilt, and entered into a pre-trial intervention program. All NFL punishment came after the legal system was done with him.
Joe may have been referring to this: http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=11514871&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fforums.footballguys.com%2Fforum%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcore%26module%3Dsearch%26section%3Dsearch%26do%3Dsearch%26fromsearch%3D1%22%7DIf Rice didn't beat the system, he at least landed a few solid blows.

 
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So he thinks beating a kid who is 4 is a good way to discipline him? What a ####### idiot. I hope he gets the lifetime ban. I really really do. #### him. Piece of ####. How is hitting a 4 year old in the scrotum with a stick not a lifetime ban?
I am positive if he wore a Green Bay uniform you wouldn't be so appalled.
you are wrong. This is way over a line with me. Something about attacks on kids just makes me sick. It's just so wrong to beat somebody who is 1/5 your size. Kids are so defenseless. So trusting. And to beat one with a stick like he allegedly did just reduces my opinion of him to lower than dirt. Big badass there. Real ####### role model. Let's stick the kids we are supposed to be watching in front of a video game and then beat them with a stick when they don't behave. I'll be over here on my phone setting up my next booty call.How many kids does Adrian have anyway?
Can you show me where you were crying for a lifetime ban for Erik Walden? He put his girlfriend in hospital the year the Packers won the super bowl.

 
I think Peterson's got a lot going against him as far as playing another game this year.

1. Goodell and the NFL have a lot of egg on their faces after the way the Rice incident was handled.

2. Goodell gave himself an out with the new policy. It says six games for a 1st DV offense, unless there are extenuating circumstances (I.e., in the presence of a child, sever physical violence...) I believe it was this caveat that allowed RG to extend Rice's ban after "seeing" the video for the first time last week.

3. I think the general public perception, and rightly so, is that abusing a 4 year old is worse than abusing an adult.

4. With the info that's coming out. The pictures, the texts and the child's statement, the evidence seems not only strong from a legal perspective, but could also support an NFL decision to suspend Peterson without due process.

5. Peterson's status is maybe only below that of Manning, Brady and Manziel. This isn't the Chargers starting LG. That puts all the more pressure on the NFL to show they don't play favorites to superstars. If Gordon was a big deal because he was coming off a league leading season, think of the publicity one of the NFLs top-5 best known/marketed players violating the league's hottest off the field issue (domestic violence) will generate.

 

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