Prisco's New NFL Rankings (1 Viewer)

[Jous]

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9442718

Your thoughts?

I don't have much time to write up any in depth thoughts of mine, but the the first thing that jumps out at me is that the Bears are too low. They should win their weak division, and I'd expect Brian Griese will improve the offense

 

[Warpig]

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9442718

Your thoughts?

I don't have much time to write up any in depth thoughts of mine, but the the first thing that jumps out at me is that the Bears are too low. They should win their weak division, and I'd expect Brian Griese will improve the offense

BITE YOUR TONGUE MAN! You meant to say a healthy Grossman will improve the offense this year, right?

 

[trader jake]

the jets are much better than the second worst team in the league at this point. i'm not saying they are even going to make the playoffs, but they are better than #31

 

[aposulli]

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9442718

Your thoughts?

I don't have much time to write up any in depth thoughts of mine, but the the first thing that jumps out at me is that the Bears are too low. They should win their weak division, and I'd expect Brian Griese will improve the offense

No way in heck will the Vikings finish ahead of the Bears. And that's coming from a Vikings fan.

 

[aposulli]

the jets are much better than the second worst team in the league at this point. i'm not saying they are even going to make the playoffs, but they are better than #31

Wait... so who is?I'd say they are most definitly the best bet to finish with a bottom 2 record, other than the 49ers.

 

[Cunning Linguist]

Fins at 6? WOW

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Where Prisco is off by most:

1. Jaguars. He's got them ranked #5 when they are a below average team. Drop them down about 14 spots.

2. Bears. Best defense in the NFL and he's got them at #20. He should move them up about eight spots.

3. Cardinals. They look better on paper this year with Edge on board, but they are not an above-average NFL team until they prove it on the field. Move them down about eight spots from #13 to #21.

4. Chargers. Prisco has them as an average team (#16). They were better than their 9-7 record last year, and they'll be improved this season. Get on the Philip Rivers bandwagon and move them up about seven spots.

5. Redskins. He's got them at #14, but this is a solid team on both sides of the ball. Move them into the top ten -- say, up six spots to #8.

Others he's got too low: Seahawks, Cowboys, Chiefs, Raiders, Jets

Others he's got too high: Dolphins, Rams, Giants, Bucs

 

[trader jake]

nfc east teams are ranked 9, 10, 11, & 14

one of these teams will have a top 10 pick next season, but who?

 

[aposulli]

Fins at 6? WOW

Yeah, wow, I missed that.

the jets are much better than the second worst team in the league at this point.  i'm not saying they are even going to make the playoffs, but they are better than #31

Wait... so who is?I'd say they are most definitly the best bet to finish with a bottom 2 record, other than the 49ers.

Here is a thread that discussed briefly the 5 worst teams in the league... specifically, teams that have no shot at the playoffs.http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...opic=233667&hl=

The teams mentioned the most....

1. SF

2. TEN

3. NYJ

4. BUF

5. NO

6. HOU

7. OAK

8. GB

Gotta say, Jets haven't done much besides added their big OLine picks.

Throw in the Lions and Browns and you seemingly have the consensous 10 worst teams.

There may be other teams that will have tougher times making the playoffs because of the division they're in, as were mentioned in the above thread.

Tough to argue with Prico's bottom 10 though.

 

[aposulli]

nfc east teams are ranked 9, 10, 11, & 14

one of these teams will have a top 10 pick next season, but who?

Whoever has the most devastating injuries (Eagles circa 2005)

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

The Jets are not a good team, but I'd take them over the 49ers, Bills, Titans, Texans, Lions, and Packers.

 

[aposulli]

The Jets are not a good team, but I'd take them over the 49ers, Bills, Titans, Texans, Lions, and Packers.

Rookie coach, new scheme on D, no Ty Law, BIG question at the most important position on the team (Pennington? Ramsey?), VERY inexperienced O Line.Can't argue any of that.

Not to mention it could be the end of the line for CM seeing how they have to depend on him heavily again in that O. And he just had another operation.

 

[broncofan13000]

Broncos and Seahawks should be ahead of the Jags and Dolphins

 

[diesel7982]

The Jets are not a good team, but I'd take them over the 49ers, Bills, Titans, Texans, Lions, and Packers.

Even if Volek is the QB, the Titans are a much better team than the Jets. Im not sure I can think of a position on either side of the ball, with the exception of MLB and possibly QB(if Penny is indeed healthy, which of course, he isnt), that the Titans arent better at.

And no way is Mangina a better coach than Fisher.

 

[Kyzersosik]

Pats at #3 seems to be about right. Had a very interesting draft esp. on the off. side of the ball. AFC East has improved but the Pats should still be in the 11 or 12 wins area this year. Health as always will be a big issue but Big Bill has tried to add some depth. Dillon should still have some gas in the tank, Maroney will take off some of the work load. Brady is Brady, spread the ball around make adjustments and win. Def will be better although it has gotten older. Overall, 11-5 or 12-4 seems very doable. GO PATS

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

There are so many that I disagree with. Oh well interesting I guess.

 

[fatness]

9 New York Giants 9 10 Dallas Cowboys 10 11 Philadelphia Eagles 11 14 Washington Redskins 14

So the strongest team in the NFC the last half of 2005, which improved itself during the offseason, has fallen behind the other 3 teams? I want some of what Prisco is smoking.

 

[Wadsworth]

Where Prisco is off by most:

1. Jaguars. He's got them ranked #5 when they are a below average team. Drop them down about 14 spots.

The 5 spot might be a little high but a below average team? The Jags defense is about good as anyone except perhaps the Bears(and maybe the Bucs) and their offense is far supperior to the Bears but you have the Bears moving up to 12 and the Jags moving down to 19? Last season they had a top 10 D and an averge offense while losing several major players to injury for many games including the captians of all 3 units (Darius, Taylor, Leftwich, Meester, Sorenson). How is that a below average team?

 

[Cowboys#1]

9 New York Giants 9

10 Dallas Cowboys 10

11 Philadelphia Eagles 11

14 Washington Redskins 14

So the strongest team in the NFC the last half of 2005, which improved itself during the offseason, has fallen behind the other 3 teams? I want some of what Prisco is smoking.

perhaps he feels that the draft improved the other teams while the skins were inactive during the draft..maybe the FA additions the other squads made were better suited to improving their respective teams?

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Seahawks @ #8 is a joke.

-The Hawks went to the SuperBowl and this team is better on both sides of the ball compared to last year and they are ranked 8th.

Have some more Prisco

 

[NoFBinLA]

Some of those rankings are somewhere between God and awful -- if you take God out of it.

But what else do I expect from sportsline? I think the staff there shows up drunk sometimes.

 

[mad sweeney]

Seahawks @ #8 is a joke.

-The Hawks went to the SuperBowl and this team is better on both sides of the ball compared to last year and they are ranked 8th.

Have some more Prisco

Didn't you read? The loss of Hutch has kicked us behind the Dolphins because the other 3 probowl blockers can't pick up the slack of the former 2nd best OL on the team. Maybe he gets Hutch and Jones confused.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

I like how 6 of his top 7 are AFC teams...the man speaks da troof!

 

[jurb26]

I like how 6 of his top 7 are AFC teams...the man speaks da troof!

Yeah, but that about the only thing he got right!

 

[fatness]

perhaps he feels that the draft improved the other teams while the skins were inactive during the draft..

maybe the FA additions the other squads made were better suited to improving their respective teams?

That's probably his reasoning, but it doesn't match with some other stuff he wrote which highlights weaknesses of the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles.

9 New York Giants 9

Getting LaVar Arrington will help the defense, and taking Sinorice Moss in the second round will help the offense. The offensive line and the secondary have to play better for this team to improve.

10 Dallas Cowboys 10

Getting Bobby Carpenter in the first round of the draft gives the Cowboys two good edge rushers in their 3-4. The offensive line is still a concern, though.

11 Philadelphia Eagles 11

They had a heck of a draft, which will help right away on both lines. There still is a question mark about the receivers. Who is the go-to guy? Donovan McNabb appears focused.

He doesn't mention corresponding weaknesses in the Redskins.

14 Washington Redskins 14

The draft didn't help much, so they better hope their free-agent signings do the trick. They’ve also added a good offensive coordinator in Al Saunders, which will help.

The Redskins don't have a problem at O-line, addressed their WR problems, addressed their pass rush problem, got a rookie LB who will probably replace the overrated Arrington, and signed the best OC in the game to improve their offense. But "the draft didn't help much." Blowing off those signings while praising the drafts of the other teams and rating them all ahead of Washington is just flimsy. At this point it the Redskins look more likely to win the division than to finish last.

 

[jurb26]

perhaps he feels that the draft improved the other teams while the skins were inactive during the draft..

maybe the FA additions the other squads made were better suited to improving their respective teams?

That's probably his reasoning, but it doesn't match with some other stuff he wrote which highlights weaknesses of the Giants, Cowboys, and Eagles.

9 New York Giants 9

Getting LaVar Arrington will help the defense, and taking Sinorice Moss in the second round will help the offense. The offensive line and the secondary have to play better for this team to improve.

10 Dallas Cowboys 10

Getting Bobby Carpenter in the first round of the draft gives the Cowboys two good edge rushers in their 3-4. The offensive line is still a concern, though.

11 Philadelphia Eagles 11

They had a heck of a draft, which will help right away on both lines. There still is a question mark about the receivers. Who is the go-to guy? Donovan McNabb appears focused.

He doesn't mention corresponding weaknesses in the Redskins.

14 Washington Redskins 14

The draft didn't help much, so they better hope their free-agent signings do the trick. They’ve also added a good offensive coordinator in Al Saunders, which will help.

The Redskins don't have a problem at O-line, addressed their WR problems, addressed their pass rush problem, got a rookie LB who will probably replace the overrated Arrington, and signed the best OC in the game to improve their offense. But "the draft didn't help much." Blowing off those signings while praising the drafts of the other teams and rating them all ahead of Washington is just flimsy. At this point it the Redskins look more likely to win the division than to finish last.

Typical mistake because the draft was recent and thus fresh in the mind. I agree with you though, he severly missed the improvments that Wash made and undervalued them. The signing of Saunders was simply huge IMO. Best signing all offseason for any team, player or not. Some other maybe close, but this gets my vote.

 

[Assani Fisher]

Seahawks @ #8 is a joke.

-The Hawks went to the SuperBowl and this team is better on both sides of the ball compared to last year and they are ranked 8th. 

Have some more    Prisco

The Super Bowl loser hasn't made the playoffs(top 12 teams) in years.They lost Hutch, SA probably won't duplicate his career year, they won't get all the breaks this year, their division is improved measurably.

 

[Assani Fisher]

I really like his willingness to predict some underdogs to do well and favorites to tank. Its refreshing. I don't agree with everything, but I like seeing something different.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Seahawks @ #8 is a joke.

-The Hawks went to the SuperBowl and this team is better on both sides of the ball compared to last year and they are ranked 8th.

Have some more Prisco

The Super Bowl loser hasn't made the playoffs(top 12 teams) in years.They lost Hutch, SA probably won't duplicate his career year, they won't get all the breaks this year, their division is improved measurably.

Their division competition has nothing to do with power rankings, its based on the strongest teams, not their competition. If that was the case, you wouldn't have the NFC East teams that high. I also wouldn't say the division has improved that much either.They won't get all the break this year? What breaks did they get last year? And if you bring up the Giants game, I can easily say the same thing about the loss to the Redskins, and that the NFL also said that Shockey 's TD should never have been called as such to bring it to OT in the first place.

I will take ANY bet that says the Seahawks will not make the playoffs in 2006.

And you are talking about the loss of Hutch but ignoring the fact that they will have added D-Jax, Burleson, Julian Peterson, Kenny Hamlin, & Ashworth.

 

[djcolts]

Where Prisco is off by most:

1. Jaguars. He's got them ranked #5 when they are a below average team. Drop them down about 14 spots.

The 5 spot might be a little high but a below average team? The Jags defense is about good as anyone except perhaps the Bears(and maybe the Bucs) and their offense is far supperior to the Bears but you have the Bears moving up to 12 and the Jags moving down to 19? Last season they had a top 10 D and an averge offense while losing several major players to injury for many games including the captians of all 3 units (Darius, Taylor, Leftwich, Meester, Sorenson). How is that a below average team?

Jags are a top 10 team - I have no doubt about that.

 

[houndirish]

NFC East is the best division in football but the winner is 9th best in the league? Explain that logic.

And there's no way 6 of the top 7 teams in football are in the AFC.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

Keep in mind ole Prisco LIVES IN JACKSONVILLE, and has always been a big homer.

 

[Wadsworth]

NFC East is the best division in football but the winner is 9th best in the league? Explain that logic.

And there's no way 6 of the top 7 teams in football are in the AFC.

The NFC East appears to be the toughest divison top to bottom. That doesn't mean they are the best. I think Pete was basically right with the NFC East teams, all are better than average but none are near top 5. But whoever wins that dogfight will be a battle tested team come the play offs and tough to beat. The AFC has won 5 out of the last 6 and 7 out of the last 9 Super Bowls. Whenever a conference makes that kind of a run the perception is likely to surface that it's superior to the other conference. I think it's fair to say that the AFC is stronger, but 6 out of 7 seems a bit extreme.

 

[BoulderBob]

Pete Prisco picked against the Bears every week last season, ignore this fool.

 

[Atomic Dawg]

All I have to say about Prisco is that I have won many a FF game going against what he says!

He is to Objective Football reporting as Peter Gammons is to Objective Baseball reporting!

 

[redman]

nfc east teams are ranked 9, 10, 11, & 14

one of these teams will have a top 10 pick next season, but who?

Whoever has the most devastating injuries (Eagles circa 2005)

Correct, but without "devastating" injuries it's entirely possible that the worst record in that division will be 7-9 or even 8-8. That doesn't get you a top 10 pick.

 

[redman]

Seahawks @ #8 is a joke.

-The Hawks went to the SuperBowl and this team is better on both sides of the ball compared to last year and they are ranked 8th. 

Have some more    Prisco

The Super Bowl loser hasn't made the playoffs(top 12 teams) in years.They lost Hutch, SA probably won't duplicate his career year, they won't get all the breaks this year, their division is improved measurably.

I still think Seattle is the favorite to win the division, but the Rams and Cards have made some nice improvements, and SF has to be at least a little improved from last year. At best Seattle is as good as last year, but the rest of the division is moving to catch up.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

2 Indianapolis Colts Will they miss James? Not with Joseph Addai on board. This kid is explosive, something James was not. The offensive line remains a concern.

Does this guy watch football or just speak out of his ####? He just basically said Addai >>>>>>> James

 

[Noahs Troopers]

How do you Atlanta fans feel about being the 22nd best team.

 

[shamrock84]

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9442718

Your thoughts?

I don't have much time to write up any in depth thoughts of mine, but the the first thing that jumps out at me is that the Bears are too low. They should win their weak division, and I'd expect Brian Griese will improve the offense

No way in heck will the Vikings finish ahead of the Bears. And that's coming from a Vikings fan.

 

[redman]

2 Indianapolis Colts Will they miss James? Not with Joseph Addai on board. This kid is explosive, something James was not. The offensive line remains a concern.

Does this guy watch football or just speak out of his ####? He just basically said Addai >>>>>>> James

Yeah, I don't get that statement either. Even ignoring the idea that James was not explosive, we've yet to see Addai take a single snap in the NFL, and many believed going into the draft that he was the 4th and maybe 5th best RB in this draft. I'm concluding that Prisco is about the least-informed NFL writer for a major publication out there. His work uniformly sucks. The average thread in this forum covering the same NFL topics that he writes about is far more informative and accurate.

 

[CowboyFan]

NFC East is the best division in football but the winner is 9th best in the league? Explain that logic.

And there's no way 6 of the top 7 teams in football are in the AFC.

Yea, but who do you pick as the top team at this point? I think the team that finishes on top will DEFINITLY be a top 5 team in the league, however I have no problem with the rankings because right now you can make a case for any of them (except maybe the skins who are just average, middle of the pack is about right on).

 

[QuizGuy66]

Fins at #6, Bengals at #18. At least he's consistent in his thoughts.

-QG

 

[redman]

NFC East is the best division in football but the winner is 9th best in the league?  Explain that logic.

And there's no way 6 of the top 7 teams in football are in the AFC.

Yea, but who do you pick as the top team at this point? I think the team that finishes on top will DEFINITLY be a top 5 team in the league, however I have no problem with the rankings because right now you can make a case for any of them (except maybe the skins who are just average, middle of the pack is about right on).

You couldn't resist, could you?

 

[CowboyFan]

You couldn't resist, could you?

 

[cstu]

Chargers at #16 behind the Chiefs is absurd. The Chargers addressed their primary concern - the secondary - by signing McCree and drafting Cromartie. Those two alone should make the team much better than last year.

They are being downgraded way too much by Rivers, who is good enough to get the job done with all the weapons around him.

The Chiefs are another year older and didn't make much improvement in the offseason.

 

[kylechoffman]

nfc east teams are ranked 9, 10, 11, & 14

one of these teams will have a top 10 pick next season, but who?

Eagles - Im from Philly and am sorry to say we will finish last in the division again in 06.Notes on this wonderful power poll:

Jax - Gimpy QB, coupled with the Loss of WR1, coupled with the fact that they dont have an every down back (I know its not needed these days). Some holes on offense, how much longer can their kicker or defense win games. Way too high.

Pitt - Number 1 - dont see it happening. Loss of Bettis changes Cowher's tendency to show his manliness by sticking the bus in to pick up the 2nd/3rd and shorts. Randle El may be replaced, but the trickery left with him and we dont know if the rook can replace him. Defense keys in on Ward and lines the box to stop FWP. Maybe send a blitzer every other down to put pressure on Big Ben like the steelers did in 05 to disrupt his confidence.

Dolphins - Too high only because of the question mark on DC and also the question mark on whether RB can handle a full season.

Eagles - No change of pace back for westbrook (Sorry Buck, until you make it through preseason, you arent helping the run), and lots of questions at wr. D and O lines got improved but until defenses feel scared by the air attack, Philly wont score like they did in year 1 of TO.

Skins - Should be higher. They showed something at the tail end of last year. Portis is running well and they picked up a lot of speed in the pass attack, which should open things up for portis and Cooley.

Detroit - I think detroit moves up finally, only if their WRs stay healthy and off the weed.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

nfc east teams are ranked 9, 10, 11, & 14

one of these teams will have a top 10 pick next season, but who?

Eagles - Im from Philly and am sorry to say we will finish last in the division again in 06.Notes on this wonderful power poll:

Jax - Gimpy QB, coupled with the Loss of WR1, coupled with the fact that they dont have an every down back (I know its not needed these days). Some holes on offense, how much longer can their kicker or defense win games. Way too high.

Pitt - Number 1 - dont see it happening. Loss of Bettis changes Cowher's tendency to show his manliness by sticking the bus in to pick up the 2nd/3rd and shorts. Randle El may be replaced, but the trickery left with him and we dont know if the rook can replace him. Defense keys in on Ward and lines the box to stop FWP. Maybe send a blitzer every other down to put pressure on Big Ben like the steelers did in 05 to disrupt his confidence.

Dolphins - Too high only because of the question mark on DC and also the question mark on whether RB can handle a full season.

Eagles - No change of pace back for westbrook (Sorry Buck, until you make it through preseason, you arent helping the run), and lots of questions at wr. D and O lines got improved but until defenses feel scared by the air attack, Philly wont score like they did in year 1 of TO.

Skins - Should be higher. They showed something at the tail end of last year. Portis is running well and they picked up a lot of speed in the pass attack, which should open things up for portis and Cooley.

Detroit - I think detroit moves up finally, only if their WRs stay healthy and off the weed.

You realize that 'change of pace' RB's are pretty much a dime a dozen, right? I guarentee the Eagles can/will get a cap casuality RB right after the June cuts if Buckhalter isn't healthy. Hell, Stephen Davis is still out there right now.As for the WR, this arguement is as tired as the day is long. They won a lot of games with Thrash and Pinkston as their WR and surely Gaffney, Brown, Pinkston and Lewis are better than what they put out in the past. I must like Reggie Brown more than most, I think he'll be a very good player this year and beyond.

The East is WIDE open and I only see the Skins as the 'weak sister' in the division. They overpaid mediocre F/A, had a mediocre draft and I think that will equal a last place finish this year (cue the Skins homers to agrue).

 

[Assani Fisher]

Seahawks @ #8 is a joke.

-The Hawks went to the SuperBowl and this team is better on both sides of the ball compared to last year and they are ranked 8th. 

Have some more    Prisco

The Super Bowl loser hasn't made the playoffs(top 12 teams) in years.They lost Hutch, SA probably won't duplicate his career year, they won't get all the breaks this year, their division is improved measurably.

Their division competition has nothing to do with power rankings, its based on the strongest teams, not their competition. If that was the case, you wouldn't have the NFC East teams that high. I also wouldn't say the division has improved that much either.They won't get all the break this year? What breaks did they get last year? And if you bring up the Giants game, I can easily say the same thing about the loss to the Redskins, and that the NFL also said that Shockey 's TD should never have been called as such to bring it to OT in the first place.

I will take ANY bet that says the Seahawks will not make the playoffs in 2006.

And you are talking about the loss of Hutch but ignoring the fact that they will have added D-Jax, Burleson, Julian Peterson, Kenny Hamlin, & Ashworth.

The teams in the NFL are ridiculously evenly matched. The Super Bowl Champs(Steelers) are really not that much better at all than several teams that missed the playoffs entirely(Chargers for example). Its a bunch of luck. Don't get me wrong- I love it. I love how things change so much from year to year. But with only 16 games and then a single elimination tourney, it really is all a crap shoot these days. Any team that does well had to have gotten lucky along the way.

 

[Assani Fisher]

NFC East is the best division in football but the winner is 9th best in the league?  Explain that logic.

And there's no way 6 of the top 7 teams in football are in the AFC.

Yea, but who do you pick as the top team at this point? I think the team that finishes on top will DEFINITLY be a top 5 team in the league, however I have no problem with the rankings because right now you can make a case for any of them (except maybe the skins who are just average, middle of the pack is about right on).

Please attempt to justify this stupid homer statement that you just made.