Colin Dowling
Footballguy
AFC: Manning, Brady, Rivers
NFC: Brees, Romo, then who...? Hass?
NFC: Brees, Romo, then who...? Hass?
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Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Rothlisberger down?
He won the Superbowl last year.
He won the Superbowl last year.
King of the Wolfies
Footballguy
Vick will be in there regardless of stats.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Yes, Rothlisberger IS down.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Marc Bulger:
2858 yards passing
14 TDs
4 INTs
92.7 passer rating
He hasn't been very good the past 3 weeks since Pace got hurt, but if he can get back to at least average I think he should be the guy.
2858 yards passing
14 TDs
4 INTs
92.7 passer rating
He hasn't been very good the past 3 weeks since Pace got hurt, but if he can get back to at least average I think he should be the guy.
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CrossEyed
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Joey Harrington
ETA: Yes, I'm joking.
ETA: Yes, I'm joking.
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Gamblor
Footballguy
Cajun Heat
Footballguy
Manning would have to throw about 42 picks and choke Tony Dungy on the sidelines before we could even fathom him being left off the Pro Bowl squad.On the NFC side, I actually think Bulger makes it pretty easily. I think that in the absence of strong candidates and general suckitude of the NFC, his QB rating is too hard to ignore, and you can't blame him for their losses.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
No kidding. Talk about drinking the Manning haterade there. Yeah, McNair with his 11 TD passes, 9 INTs and 79.9 passer rating (that's over 4 full points lower than JP Losman) should be in over Manning.at McNair over Manning. Care to put a wager on that one?
And seriously, a 10-1 Peyton Manning that has better stats in every category should be left out for a 6-5 Carson Palmer? Get real. The only way that Palmer finishes with more passing yards and/or TDs is if Manning sits out a game or two at the end of the season because he has already lead his team to the #1 seed.
corpcow
Footballguy
Last I checked it was a popularity contest. It's not about stats. Manning & Brady will probably be there. The other spot is a toss up, but Palmer could sneak by.
Frank Black
Footballguy
McNair really deserves to go, but who would you bump to put him in there?
fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
AFC: Manning, Rivers, Brady
NFC: Brees, Hasselbeck, Romo
I can't put Vick or bulger in there when they won't even make the playoffs
NFC: Brees, Hasselbeck, Romo
I can't put Vick or bulger in there when they won't even make the playoffs
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H.K.
Footballguy
Probably Manning. He has the same number of TD passes as he does turnovers the past three weeks. You'd think the playoffs have already started with the way he is playing currently. Heck, even Harrison can't stand to be on the field with him any longer than he has to, so Marvin heads to the locker room early during games now.
Gamblor
Footballguy
You are probably right. Im still willing to wager though, despite the fact you are obviously getting the better end of the deal. How much did you want to put down on this one?
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Manning is 2nd in the NFL in passing yards, 2nd in QB rating (behind a small sample size from Romo) and tied for first in touchdown passes.
A horrible attempt at
from H.K.
A horrible attempt at
from H.K.
shakeybarn
Footballguy
MANNINGBRADYPALMER in that order.Ummmmmmm only one or two ppl have caught the Rivers inclusion/Palmer exclusion. He's having a great "first" year... but Palmer is besting him across most stats, and having a much better second half (what have you done for me lately).Not to go ad naseum either... but LT2... a 2,300 yard and 30+ TDs (rushing, receiving, passing) back is a nice crutch to lean on. Rivers rarely has to keep a drive alive. Also nice to have a defense to keep things comfy... SD is a top 10 across major cats, while Cinncy is bottom 10 in most, if not bottom 3. A la Big Ben, Rivers benefitting from the team he's on. Period.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
As great as I think Brady is, this has not been his best year. I would put him 4th in the AFC, behind Manning, Rivers and Palmer.
Bulger should probably be the 3rd QB in the NFC.
Bulger should probably be the 3rd QB in the NFC.
meanjoegreen
Footballguy
Some of the games the Chargers have won this year, came from them benefitting from having Rivers.
AFC: Manning, Palmer, Rivers
NFC: Brees, Romo, Bulger
NFC: Brees, Romo, Bulger
H.K.
Footballguy
Manning will go because its a popularity contest, not because he deserves it.
Wait till you see his Pro Bowl picks at TE.A horrible attempt at
gman74
Footballguy
lol huh never watch football before have you. maybe football where your from is soccer
cstu
Footballguy
Don't watch a lot of Chargers games do you? Where was all this talk of an "LT crutch" when LT was averaging 3.7 YPC? Palmer could pass Rivers, but up to this point Rivers has been the better QB.
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
It's the Pro Bowl, not the MVP. Bulger gets in because the numbers say he should.
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
Have we forgotten that this is mostly a popularity contest?In the AFC it will be Manning, Brady, Palmer.....everyone else.
H.K.
Footballguy
Wait till you see his Pro Bowl picks at TE.A horrible attempt at
OOOOHHH! I didn't see that thread! 
H.K.
Footballguy
No, but we DO have grammar and punctuation where I am from.
gman74
Footballguy
fact is fact hk "Manning will go because its a popularity contest, not because he deserves it" that is just ignorant plain and simple.No, but we DO have grammar and punctuation where I am from.
gman74
Footballguy
yea the planet don't have a clue.No, but we DO have grammar and punctuation where I am from.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Yeah that fourth and 6 he picked up against the Raiders on Sunday with a perfect pass to Jackson (who then lost his mind) didn't happen. Also the Chargers are one of (the?) best teams in the NFL at converting third downs, usually on passes, but I'm sure Rivers has nothing to do with keeping drives alive though.....
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Have you watched any Chargers games this year?
Nope. I know Pro Bowl bids mean diddly squat, but that doesn't mean I don't like throwing my two cents worth about them out there.
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On fourth downs this year, Rivers is 4 of 5 (80%) for 70 yards (14.0 YPA) with 1 TD, zero INTs, and a passer rating of 158.3.
Utter Chaos
Footballguy
In the AFC Manning will get picked but will back out because he'll be sore from playing in the Super Bowl the week before. His roster spot will be filled by..............Steve McNair.
In the NFC I think Jake Delhomme should be mentioned before Hasselback. Brees is definitely in so the other two spots come down to Romo, Bulger, Vick and Delhomme in my opinion.
In the NFC I think Jake Delhomme should be mentioned before Hasselback. Brees is definitely in so the other two spots come down to Romo, Bulger, Vick and Delhomme in my opinion.
Gamblor
Footballguy
All talk. Glad to see you can admit you are wrong.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
On third downs this year, Rivers is 60 of 96 (62.5%) for 823 yards 7 tds, 4 ints, and a passer rating of 96.8.On third and 6+ yards to go, Rivers is 37 of 56 (66.1%), for 539 yards, 2 tds, 3 ints, and a passer rating of 86.8.He's no Peyton (who has a rating of 108.8 in 3rd and 6+), but he has done better than Brady (who has a rating of 75.7 in 3rd and 6+) and Palmer (who has a rating of 73.8 in 3rd and 6+). Rivers also has a higher rating and completion percentage than both Brady and Palmer in all 3rd down situations. I'd say he's kept a few drives alive.
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MLBrandow
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Remember that Vick got voted in by the players last year... the NFL players that line up against him.
Manning, Brady, Palmer
Brees, Romo, Vick
I think people are misled about Rivers by the shear fact that he's had those two big comeback wins. Palmer has better numbers RIGHT NOW, and his team is getting hot at the right time.
Romo has 5 games under his belt right now, and with another very solid performance Sunday, I think he'll cement himself as one of the front-runners.
Do I think Vick will be in the top 3 NFC vote-getters from the public? Not a chance.
Will he get into the pro bowl after the players vote? Definitely.
Manning, Brady, Palmer
Brees, Romo, Vick
I think people are misled about Rivers by the shear fact that he's had those two big comeback wins. Palmer has better numbers RIGHT NOW, and his team is getting hot at the right time.
Romo has 5 games under his belt right now, and with another very solid performance Sunday, I think he'll cement himself as one of the front-runners.
Do I think Vick will be in the top 3 NFC vote-getters from the public? Not a chance.
Will he get into the pro bowl after the players vote? Definitely.
I agree that if the season ended today, Palmer should be ahead of Rivers. But Rivers should be ahead of Brady.
purestrength
Footballguy
Are some of these people really saying Peyton Manning doesn't deserve to be in the Pro Bowl?
They can't be serious.
Can they?
They can't be serious.
Can they?
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MLBrandow
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I manipulate a lot of numbers to express my points, but you, sir are just silly.That Rivers is better than Palmer and Brady in one statistical category out of the 100 or so that there are on the page you were looking at is silly.I'll say again, you're silly.It's unreasonable to delude yourself into thinking you've made a point here by showing one small category that can easily be refuted by the quality of running back in his backfield. On 3rd&6+, Everyone knows that Brady and Manning will pass, but Rivers can just dump the ball off to LT.You're forgetting he has in LT what is likely the greatest all-around running back of all-time who is having what is likely to be the best season of his career.This makes play-faking a lot more convincing.
People are idiots and have short memories.Because they remember Manning throwing for 49 TDs, and now go "well he's not even on pace to break 30 this season", and his very modest 100.2 QB rating, along with the fact that they "barely beat" Buffalo, and then lost to Dallas....People just don't think all the time. It happens.
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