Processed meats as bad a cancer threat as smoking (1 Viewer)

[snellman]

You will have to pry my bacon from my cold dead hands.

 

[onionsack]

The asian diet is what they look at to follow as that population has one of the lowest incidence of cancer, at least breast cancer. Coincidence that their diet doesn't have much red meat and no processed stuff?

Not true. In Chinese the word for meat doubles as the word for pork. Most of the Asian cuisines (except where Islam is prevalent - and Indonesian is actually a big exception to that rule) I have tried in their homelands (Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese (various styles), Japanese, Philippine, Korean, Indonesian) feature pork, although in Korea it is a recent addition.

[SIZE=10.5pt]This is not true. The Mandarin generic word for meat is [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]肉[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] while the word for pork is [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]猪肉[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] (literally, "pig meat"), and no one would ever say merely [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]肉[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] if the menu contained different kinds of meat, which it almost always does. The only exception would be steamed pork buns ([/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]猪[/SIZE]肉包) which would be called simply 肉包 only because pork is the only kind of meat ever used to make them. [SIZE=10.5pt]Interestingly, the word for vegetables (蔬菜[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] or just [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]菜[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]) CAN often be substituted for the word food (as in the word for "menu": [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]菜單[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] (literally, "vegetable list"). [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] [/SIZE]

 

[Binky The Doormat]

The asian diet is what they look at to follow as that population has one of the lowest incidence of cancer, at least breast cancer. Coincidence that their diet doesn't have much red meat and no processed stuff?

Not true. In Chinese the word for meat doubles as the word for pork. Most of the Asian cuisines (except where Islam is prevalent - and Indonesian is actually a big exception to that rule) I have tried in their homelands (Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese (various styles), Japanese, Philippine, Korean, Indonesian) feature pork, although in Korea it is a recent addition.

[SIZE=10.5pt]This is not true. The Mandarin generic word for meat is [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]肉[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] while the word for pork is [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]猪肉[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] (literally, "pig meat"), and no one would ever say merely [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]肉[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] if the menu contained different kinds of meat, which it almost always does. The only exception would be steamed pork buns ([/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]猪[/SIZE]肉包) which would be called simply 肉包 only because pork is the only kind of meat ever used to make them. [SIZE=10.5pt]Interestingly, the word for vegetables (蔬菜[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] or just [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]菜[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]) CAN often be substituted for the word food (as in the word for "menu": [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]菜單[/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] (literally, "vegetable list"). [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt] [/SIZE]

All of the asian cultures have cured sausages used heavily in their meat rotation.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

The asian diet is what they look at to follow as that population has one of the lowest incidence of cancer, at least breast cancer. Coincidence that their diet doesn't have much red meat and no processed stuff?

Not true. In Chinese the word for meat doubles as the word for pork. Most of the Asian cuisines (except where Islam is prevalent - and Indonesian is actually a big exception to that rule) I have tried in their homelands (Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese (various styles), Japanese, Philippine, Korean, Indonesian) feature pork, although in Korea it is a recent addition.

This is not true. The Mandarin generic word for meat is 肉 while the word for pork is 猪肉 (literally, "pig meat"), and no one would ever say merely 肉 if the menu contained different kinds of meat, which it almost always does. The only exception would be steamed pork buns (猪肉包) which would be called simply 肉包 only because pork is the only kind of meat ever used to make them. Interestingly, the word for vegetables (蔬菜 or just 菜) CAN often be substituted for the word food (as in the word for "menu": 菜單 (literally, "vegetable list").

I gorged on steamed pork buns and Peking duck on my last business trip to Beijing. Literally stuffed my face in an old steam bun shop for only $2. It is a very popular place and even the Chinese President ate there.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylcDBEhmGyM

 

[Rohn Jambo]

The asian diet is what they look at to follow as that population has one of the lowest incidence of cancer, at least breast cancer. Coincidence that their diet doesn't have much red meat and no processed stuff?

Not true. In Chinese the word for meat doubles as the word for pork. Most of the Asian cuisines (except where Islam is prevalent - and Indonesian is actually a big exception to that rule) I have tried in their homelands (Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese (various styles), Japanese, Philippine, Korean, Indonesian) feature pork, although in Korea it is a recent addition.

This is not true. The Mandarin generic word for meat is 肉 while the word for pork is 猪肉 (literally, "pig meat"), and no one would ever say merely 肉 if the menu contained different kinds of meat, which it almost always does. The only exception would be steamed pork buns (猪肉包) which would be called simply 肉包 only because pork is the only kind of meat ever used to make them. Interestingly, the word for vegetables (蔬菜 or just 菜) CAN often be substituted for the word food (as in the word for "menu": 菜單 (literally, "vegetable list").

All of the asian cultures have cured sausages used heavily in their meat rotation.

I would think all cultures in seasonal or warmer climates have some form of cured meat before the invention of the refrigerator.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Air causes cancer...stop breathing or die ...wait...wut?

 

[The General]

Air causes cancer...stop breathing or die ...wait...wut?

Breathing exactly the same as eating hot dogs every day!

 

[RedmondLonghorn]

I would like a word with the people who decided to put cured meats in the same category as cigarettes. One increases your chances of bowl cancer by 18%, the other increases your chance of lung cancer by 17x. Sure, those seem to be similar...

Just another dip#### organization. Same kind of people that put Burma and Syria in charge of the UN Human Rights Coalition.

 

[CurlyNight]

I would like a word with the people who decided to put cured meats in the same category as cigarettes. One increases your chances of bowl cancer by 18%, the other increases your chance of lung cancer by 17x. Sure, those seem to be similar...

Just another dip#### organization. Same kind of people that put Burma and Syria in charge of the UN Human Rights Coalition.

I think what's missing here is if you are susceptible already to get cancer, if you have the risk factors like some do with genetics and possibly from having other diseases, then the 18% increase would be huge in this case. But if there are no known risk factors for you and you are otherwise healthy and not over weight and all then you are right. Just in my observation but I notice those cig smokers who are skinny seem to be the ones who "live to 100" while the over weight people are the ones who go sooner. That's what it seems like to me. Weight plays a major factor in not only chances for cancer but chances for all other diseases. Inflammation is not your friend and excess salt, preservatives found in these processed foods creates inflammation.

 

[flapgreen]

I love processed meat.

 

[Faust]

I love processed meat.

Me too. Somehow I just know that Roddy White is connected to this news...screwing us one more time!

 

[flapgreen]

Again?!?

 

[mquinnjr]

We need to ban cheese too.

We need to ban everything.

Eat sludge with 'everything the body needs' like in Matrix.

Ignorance...is bliss.

:eatsfilet:

 

[PatsWillWin]

Nervously ate some little smokies with my lunch today.

Do you feel any more cancer-y than you did before lunch?

 

[GroveDiesel]

So basically steak and BJ Day is a net wash?

http://web.mit.edu/zoz/Public/CNN-Fellatio.htm

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I had roast chicken last night, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT ATE WHILE IT WAS ALIVE!!!

 

[NutterButter]

Walter is onto something

 

[trogg78]

I had roast chicken last night, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT ATE WHILE IT WAS ALIVE!!!

As long as you know what it ate when it was dead you should be kosher.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

116 things that cause cancer according to WHO:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/oct/28/116-things-that-can-give-you-cancer-list

 

[Bob Magaw]

Bacon Causes Cancer? Sort Of. Not Really. Ish.

http://mail.twc.com/do/mail/message/view?msgId=INBOXDELIM4512

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[arrow1]

I've been told red meat feeds cancer cells so after chemo, I have to really cut down. I love a good steak. Before I start chemo hopefully finally next week, I'm going to Black Angus and order the porterhouse! The diet after chemo is basically no fried, processed, packaged, junk type foods. Even dairy need to be non fat or cut way down too.

Best of luck with the chemo. I hope it is as side effect free as possible.

 

[CurlyNight]

I've been told red meat feeds cancer cells so after chemo, I have to really cut down. I love a good steak. Before I start chemo hopefully finally next week, I'm going to Black Angus and order the porterhouse! The diet after chemo is basically no fried, processed, packaged, junk type foods. Even dairy need to be non fat or cut way down too.

Best of luck with the chemo. I hope it is as side effect free as possible.

Thanks guys. Round 1 last Tues had 3 days post of flu like symptoms. Luckily I haven't had the bone aches that comes from Neulasta, mouth sores or the other wonderful benefits of chemo. Fatigue/energy shot is a constant. Round 2 is next Tues and from what I read on bc.org of others, it's so hit and miss about each round. But, I'm determined to get through!