Projecting the Top Five Dynasty QB's in 3 Years (1 Viewer)

[Rovers]

History says that there will be turnover in the top 5 NFL FF QB's over the next 2 to 3 years. Some will stay in this lofty spot, some will drop. From a dynasty perspective, where we all know it is a combination of projections, player evaluation, situational assessment and a myriad of other factors not the least of which is the luck factor, what players appear in your crystal ball?

Josh Freeman just came into focus for me. Long shot, but so is Sanchez or any other young QB one might put forth for consideration. Ryan, Flacco, Bradford, Rodgers, Henne... or any others one would chose to nominate.

Do you think any of the young QB's can break the top 5 by 2011? Or will the stud QB list remain largely unchanged?

I was prompted to ask this because I took a lot of heat for suggesting Josh Freeman had the potential for consideration down the road in another unamed forum. It was one game, but in Dynasty leagues, future success is based on long term projections and guesswork, not to mention luck.

Which QB's are on your "most likely" to enter the top 5 list in the NFL by 2011?

Mine, in no particular order are:

Freeman

Sanchez

Bradford

Henne

Rodgers

Keeping an eye on Flacco and Ryan. Thoughts?

 

[Jewell]

History says that there will be turnover in the top 5 NFL FF QB's over the next 2 to 3 years. Some will stay in this lofty spot, some will drop. From a dynasty perspective, where we all know it is a combination of projections, player evaluation, situational assessment and a myriad of other factors not the least of which is the luck factor, what players appear in your crystal ball?

Josh Freeman just came into focus for me. Long shot, but so is Sanchez or any other young QB one might put forth for consideration. Ryan, Flacco, Bradford, Rodgers, Henne... or any others one would chose to nominate.

Do you think any of the young QB's can break the top 5 by 2011? Or will the stud QB list remain largely unchanged?

I was prompted to ask this because I took a lot of heat for suggesting Josh Freeman had the potential for consideration down the road in another unamed forum. It was one game, but in Dynasty leagues, future success is based on long term projections and guesswork, not to mention luck.

Which QB's are on your "most likely" to enter the top 5 list in the NFL by 2011?

Mine, in no particular order are:

Freeman

Sanchez

Bradford

Henne

Rodgers

Break the Top 5? Rodgers has been The Top producing QB over the past season and a half.

 

[fruity pebbles]

QBs play for a long time. I'd venture to guess that the top 3 are very similar to today with Manning, Brady and Brees.

 

[bro1ncos]

Aaron Rodgers

Matt Ryan

Jay Cutler

Peyton Manning

Ben Roethlisberger

 

[Rovers]

History says that there will be turnover in the top 5 NFL FF QB's over the next 2 to 3 years. Some will stay in this lofty spot, some will drop. From a dynasty perspective, where we all know it is a combination of projections, player evaluation, situational assessment and a myriad of other factors not the least of which is the luck factor, what players appear in your crystal ball?

Josh Freeman just came into focus for me. Long shot, but so is Sanchez or any other young QB one might put forth for consideration. Ryan, Flacco, Bradford, Rodgers, Henne... or any others one would chose to nominate.

Do you think any of the young QB's can break the top 5 by 2011? Or will the stud QB list remain largely unchanged?

I was prompted to ask this because I took a lot of heat for suggesting Josh Freeman had the potential for consideration down the road in another unamed forum. It was one game, but in Dynasty leagues, future success is based on long term projections and guesswork, not to mention luck.

Which QB's are on your "most likely" to enter the top 5 list in the NFL by 2011?

Mine, in no particular order are:

Freeman

Sanchez

Bradford

Henne

Rodgers

Break the Top 5? Rodgers has been The Top producing QB over the past season and a half.

Yup... but will he be there in 2 years? I should have also asked which of toaday's top 5 will be there still in 2011. I appreiciate the constructive critisism. That was a flaw in my opening post. Thanks for catching that. However, I am more interested in hearing what folks predict in terms of upside for the young QB's in general. Which ones have the most upside?

 

[basher]

History says that there will be turnover in the top 5 NFL FF QB's over the next 2 to 3 years. Some will stay in this lofty spot, some will drop. From a dynasty perspective, where we all know it is a combination of projections, player evaluation, situational assessment and a myriad of other factors not the least of which is the luck factor, what players appear in your crystal ball?

Josh Freeman just came into focus for me. Long shot, but so is Sanchez or any other young QB one might put forth for consideration. Ryan, Flacco, Bradford, Rodgers, Henne... or any others one would chose to nominate.

Do you think any of the young QB's can break the top 5 by 2011? Or will the stud QB list remain largely unchanged?

I was prompted to ask this because I took a lot of heat for suggesting Josh Freeman had the potential for consideration down the road in another unamed forum. It was one game, but in Dynasty leagues, future success is based on long term projections and guesswork, not to mention luck.

Which QB's are on your "most likely" to enter the top 5 list in the NFL by 2011?

Mine, in no particular order are:

Freeman

Sanchez

Bradford

Henne

Rodgers

Keeping an eye on Flacco and Ryan. Thoughts?

A little soon on him don't you think? He seems to have some semblance of skill but from what I gather he isn't really all that bright. I would take Flacco or Ryan over him any day of the week.

 

[switz]

History says that there will be turnover in the top 5 NFL FF QB's over the next 2 to 3 years. Some will stay in this lofty spot, some will drop. From a dynasty perspective, where we all know it is a combination of projections, player evaluation, situational assessment and a myriad of other factors not the least of which is the luck factor, what players appear in your crystal ball?

Josh Freeman just came into focus for me. Long shot, but so is Sanchez or any other young QB one might put forth for consideration. Ryan, Flacco, Bradford, Rodgers, Henne... or any others one would chose to nominate.

Do you think any of the young QB's can break the top 5 by 2011? Or will the stud QB list remain largely unchanged?

I was prompted to ask this because I took a lot of heat for suggesting Josh Freeman had the potential for consideration down the road in another unamed forum. It was one game, but in Dynasty leagues, future success is based on long term projections and guesswork, not to mention luck.

Which QB's are on your "most likely" to enter the top 5 list in the NFL by 2011?

Mine, in no particular order are:

Freeman

Sanchez

Bradford

Henne

Rodgers

Keeping an eye on Flacco and Ryan. Thoughts?

Well, neither Manning, Brees, nor Brady are old enough to be displaced from the top-5, so that knocks it down to 2. I think Matt Ryan will be there ahead of any of the 5 you list, despite his recent sophomore struggles. Romo, Rivers, Schaub and Roethlisberger should be up there from an FF perspective.Could any of the guys you mentioned break in? Possibly, but I don't think it's too likely. Bradford really depends on where he goes.

 

[Jewell]

Yup... but will he be there in 2 years? I should have also asked which of toaday's top 5 will be there still in 2011. I appreiciate the constructive critisism. That was a flaw in my opening post. Thanks for catching that. However, I am more interested in hearing what folks predict in terms of upside for the young QB's in general. Which ones have the most upside?

OK, in that case, I'll venture to guess that the Top 5 in 2011 will beeyton ManningAaron RodgersPhillip RiversTony RomoBen RoethlisbergerI obviously agree with somebody wrote earlier about not much turnover.

 

[lyon812]

Perhaps a different (but related) question would be: At what point do people think that Manning, Brees, and Brady will have less dynasty value than redraft value? In 2011, Manning is 35, Brees is 32, Brady is 34. Eventually, their dynasty value is going to diminish compared to that of other QBs, regardless of their quality--precisely because franchise QBs can last you for a decade, at some point Ryan, Flacco, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, and 5th-qb-to-be-named will take over as preferable dynasty assets--regardless of whether or not they're the actual top-5 QBs that year. That is, by 2011, Ryan may have much higher dynasty value than Manning even if Manning is still outperforming him.

 

[NeverEnough]

Wow, lots of people not including Brees

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

In no particular order:

Drew Brees

Ben Roethlisberger

Philip Rivers

Matt Ryan

Matthew Stafford

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

1. Drew Brees

2. Tom Brady

3. Aaron Rodgers

4. Peyton Manning

5. Ben Roethlisberger

6. Matt Ryan

7. Matt Schaub

8. Philip Rivers

9. Joe Flacco

10. Tony Romo

I'd say one of the truly young guys could crack this list by 2011, but none of these guys are going to be too old to really change their production. (at least from an age perspective.) No way of really knowing who will have the best surrounding cast at this point.

 

[RockHard]

History says that there will be turnover in the top 5 NFL

Mine, in no particular order are:

Freeman

A little soon on him don't you think? He seems to have some semblance of skill but from what I gather he isn't really all that bright. I would take Flacco or Ryan over him any day of the week.

Could you please elaborate on how you came to that conclusion.

 

[jojoh07]

No flacco love ???

 

[jurb26]

Drew Brees

Philip Rivers

Matt Ryan

Matthew Stafford

Carson Palmer

I'm not sure how much longer Brady and Manning will put up the great numbers they are now, but it wouldn't surprise me to see one or both of them on that list still in 3 years.

 

[basher]

History says that there will be turnover in the top 5 NFL

Mine, in no particular order are:

Freeman

A little soon on him don't you think? He seems to have some semblance of skill but from what I gather he isn't really all that bright. I would take Flacco or Ryan over him any day of the week.

Could you please elaborate on how you came to that conclusion.

I remember he had a terrible time picking up the k-state play book and that was a huge knock on him going into the draft ... I also thought he scored awful on the wonderlic test. I was right and wrong ... He has a learning disability and that is why he struggled to pick up playbooks but actually scored highly on the wonderlic. My bad for propagating falsehoods

 

[mlball77]

So you aren't asking for the top scoring qbs in 2011, but instead the top five qbs that will be in demand in dynasty after 2011?

If this is the question, I think there will definitely be some turnover, because even if P Manning has a big year in 2011, I know his days will be numbered from there and he will fall down my dynasty rankings list a little (sort of similar to Warner for this season).

 

[jurb26]

So you aren't asking for the top scoring qbs in 2011, but instead the top five qbs that will be in demand in dynasty after 2011?

In that case:Matt StaffordPhillip RiversMatt RyanAaron RodgersMatt Schaub

 

[basher]

So you aren't asking for the top scoring qbs in 2011, but instead the top five qbs that will be in demand in dynasty after 2011?

In that case:Matt StaffordPhillip RiversMatt RyanAaron RodgersMatt Schaub

I like this list although I think I would take Cutler or Flacco over Stafford. Who knows how long it will take for the lions to sort through that mess. The only knock on Joe Flacco so far is he has a uni-brow and Cutler has the personality of a 16 year old beverly hills socialite ... but the guy can play and once he gets a few weapons in there ... watch outEDIT: I suppose I would also up flacco if the Ravens pull in some WR who can make a few more plays then the ones they have (this isn't D.Mason hate he is just old and not really a dynamic threat anymore )

 

[jurb26]

So you aren't asking for the top scoring qbs in 2011, but instead the top five qbs that will be in demand in dynasty after 2011?

In that case:Matt Stafford

Phillip Rivers

Matt Ryan

Aaron Rodgers

Matt Schaub

I like this list although I think I would take Cutler or Flacco over Stafford. Who knows how long it will take for the lions to sort through that mess. The only knock on Joe Flacco so far is he has a uni-brow and Cutler has the personality of a 16 year old beverly hills socialite ... but the guy can play and once he gets a few weapons in there ... watch outEDIT: I suppose I would also up flacco if the Ravens pull in some WR who can make a few more plays then the ones they have (this isn't D.Mason hate he is just old and not really a dynamic threat anymore )

 

[Rovers]

Perhaps a different (but related) question would be: At what point do people think that Manning, Brees, and Brady will have less dynasty value than redraft value? In 2011, Manning is 35, Brees is 32, Brady is 34. Eventually, their dynasty value is going to diminish compared to that of other QBs, regardless of their quality--precisely because franchise QBs can last you for a decade, at some point Ryan, Flacco, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, and 5th-qb-to-be-named will take over as preferable dynasty assets--regardless of whether or not they're the actual top-5 QBs that year. That is, by 2011, Ryan may have much higher dynasty value than Manning even if Manning is still outperforming him.

The old guard in the top five are getting older. Some QB's seem to be heading towrds replacing them, like Rothlisberger, but until proven otherwise, projecting the drop off for Manning and Brady is as risky as trying to project the next young QB to settle in as an annual top ten. I think Brees is a lock for many years to come. Rodgers... is an enigma to me. So is the whole GB franchise. Sometimes I just don't know what to make of the Packers. Just when you think they will turn the corner, they run into a wall. Then you have Favre and Warner. Just when you think they are done... they light it up. I probably should have said top ten, not top 5. But the idea behind the topic was to get opinions on the long term projections for the NFL's young QB's. That is the way the thread seems to be going, so despite my poor stater post, it seems to have worked in terms of getting opinions on the dynasty value of QB's these days.

 

[bcr8f]

What no Brett Favre? He's only 40.

I'd say Rodgers, Flacco, Ryan, Sanchez, Freeman.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

QBs play for a long time. I'd venture to guess that the top 3 are very similar to today with Manning, Brady and Brees.

EXCEPT THATS NOT THE TOP 3 NOW

 

[Bucco Bruce]

History says that there will be turnover in the top 5 NFL

Mine, in no particular order are:

Freeman

A little soon on him don't you think? He seems to have some semblance of skill but from what I gather he isn't really all that bright. I would take Flacco or Ryan over him any day of the week.

Could you please elaborate on how you came to that conclusion.

I remember he had a terrible time picking up the k-state play book and that was a huge knock on him going into the draft ... I also thought he scored awful on the wonderlic test. I was right and wrong ... He has a learning disability and that is why he struggled to pick up playbooks but actually scored highly on the wonderlic. My bad for propagating falsehoods

You're still wrong. Freeman doesn't have a learning disability. You are thinking of Nate Davis. Or maybe you are just the one with a learning disability...

 

[Gopher State]

Packers | On pace to break team record for sacks allowed

Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:11:51 -0800

Bob McGinn, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports the Green Bay Packers have allowed 37 sacks through eight games this season. They are on pace to give up 74 sacks, which would break the team record of 62 sacks allowed in 1990.

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I wonder if Rogers will be playing in three years, he is getting killed with the weak o-line in Green Bay

 

[mlball77]

Here are a few of the guys I think would be topping my dynasty QB list in a few years (in no particular order):

Rodgers- I think he has a strong enough arm, is accurate, can make plays with his feet when needed, and has good, young receiving weapons on O (Jennings, J Jones, J Nelson, J Finley). An improved line would make him scary-good in fantasy.

Flacco- I’ve been pretty high on him since day one, but feel he needs an upper tier WR to make the jump into fantasy elite at QB.

Cutler- An upper tier WR would do wonders for him as well. Might be immature, but his skill set is incredible. Plus, with the direction CHI’s D is going, they could be in many shootouts over the next five years.

Ryan- I am probably not as high on him as many are, but he is undoubtedly very good and has the tools to be a big FF producer for years to come.

Phillip Rivers- Big talent and definitely a guy that I see as a top 7 fantasy QB in a few years still.

Brees- Probably a great QB for a win-now type of dynasty team in a couple/few years or maybe a guy you milk one more big year out of and then trade to the highest bidder.

(Special Mention: J Clausen is a guy I’ll be watching close… don’t know when he will go pro or where he’ll end up, but I think he has a real shot of succeeding, from the admittedly little I've seen of him.)

 

[basher]

History says that there will be turnover in the top 5 NFL

Mine, in no particular order are:

Freeman

A little soon on him don't you think? He seems to have some semblance of skill but from what I gather he isn't really all that bright. I would take Flacco or Ryan over him any day of the week.

Could you please elaborate on how you came to that conclusion.

I remember he had a terrible time picking up the k-state play book and that was a huge knock on him going into the draft ... I also thought he scored awful on the wonderlic test. I was right and wrong ... He has a learning disability and that is why he struggled to pick up playbooks but actually scored highly on the wonderlic. My bad for propagating falsehoods

You're still wrong. Freeman doesn't have a learning disability. You are thinking of Nate Davis. Or maybe you are just the one with a learning disability...

whoa ... easy tiger ... I stand correctedIt still doesn't change my stance that in no way shape or form should Josh Freeman be chosen over someone like Joe Flacco or Jay Cutler at this moment in time. Those two have proven they can play at a semi-sustainable high level over an entire season. Freeman is still a raw rookie.

 

[basher]

Packers | On pace to break team record for sacks allowedSun, 08 Nov 2009 21:11:51 -0800Bob McGinn, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports the Green Bay Packers have allowed 37 sacks through eight games this season. They are on pace to give up 74 sacks, which would break the team record of 62 sacks allowed in 1990.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wonder if Rogers will be playing in three years, he is getting killed with the weak o-line in Green Bay

I have watched almost every game so far and aside from a couple of Jared Allen's sacks and 1 of both Ogunleye's and Odom's ... Rodger's has been sacked a lot but not many of them have been big hits.

 

[Rovers]

Here are a few of the guys I think would be topping my dynasty QB list in a few years (in no particular order):Rodgers- I think he has a strong enough arm, is accurate, can make plays with his feet when needed, and has good, young receiving weapons on O (Jennings, J Jones, J Nelson, J Finley). An improved line would make him scary-good in fantasy.Flacco- I’ve been pretty high on him since day one, but feel he needs an upper tier WR to make the jump into fantasy elite at QB.Cutler- An upper tier WR would do wonders for him as well. Might be immature, but his skill set is incredible. Plus, with the direction CHI’s D is going, they could be in many shootouts over the next five years. Ryan- I am probably not as high on him as many are, but he is undoubtedly very good and has the tools to be a big FF producer for years to come.Phillip Rivers- Big talent and definitely a guy that I see as a top 7 fantasy QB in a few years still.Brees- Probably a great QB for a win-now type of dynasty team in a couple/few years or maybe a guy you milk one more big year out of and then trade to the highest bidder.(Special Mention: J Clausen is a guy I’ll be watching close… don’t know when he will go pro or where he’ll end up, but I think he has a real shot of succeeding, from the admittedly little I've seen of him.)

While I don't agree with all of your points, this is just what I was hoping this thread would generate. Non flaming ideas and projections, crystal balling about something that can't reasonably be predicted. Good stuff. Now that I stuck my neck out... tomorrow I will post my crystall ball projections on all of the rooks, 2nd year NFL QB's and the next rookie draft eligables that I like... and rank them in terms of potential top 10 NFL Qb's down the road. I'd better be wearing a biker's full leather though, because I'm sure I'll be covered in raw egg, toilet paper and then get dragged through the side streets tied to a pickup truck of the FBG neighborhood.

 

[smackdaddies]

without a doubt, no discussion.

Brady

Rodgers

Brees

Peyton

Schaub

There are no rational arguments for dropping any of the top 4 - Matt S could have some competition, but please - Brady/Rodgers/Brees and Peyton own production

 

[Rovers]

without a doubt, no discussion. BradyRodgersBreesPeytonSchaubThere are no rational arguments for dropping any of the top 4 - Matt S could have some competition, but please - Brady/Rodgers/Brees and Peyton own production

No Warner? There is always discussion. If age is Warner's issue, Manning and Brady are getting older too. Schaub gets hurt, Rothlisberger does not. Your list also presumes no injuries. There is always room for discussion.

 

[basher]

It seems that big ben is a bit of a forgotten man in all these lists as well. He is only 27 and aside from last season when he spent the year playing with a shoulder injury ... I dont see any reason why he shouldn't be posting prime seasons over the next 5 years.

 

[mlball77]

It seems that big ben is a bit of a forgotten man in all these lists as well. He is only 27 and aside from last season when he spent the year playing with a shoulder injury ... I dont see any reason why he shouldn't be posting prime seasons over the next 5 years.

Good point. He was an omission from my list... but I would put him in my top 5-7 for sure.

 

[thatguy]

Drew BreesPhilip RiversMatt RyanMatthew StaffordCarson PalmerI'm not sure how much longer Brady and Manning will put up the great numbers they are now, but it wouldn't surprise me to see one or both of them on that list still in 3 years.

Pretty interesting that this is the first mention of Carson... Even I hadn't considered him until this post. Yet he is still easily one of the ten most talented QBs in the NFL.

 

[jurb26]

Drew BreesPhilip RiversMatt RyanMatthew StaffordCarson PalmerI'm not sure how much longer Brady and Manning will put up the great numbers they are now, but it wouldn't surprise me to see one or both of them on that list still in 3 years.

Pretty interesting that this is the first mention of Carson... Even I hadn't considered him until this post. Yet he is still easily one of the ten most talented QBs in the NFL.

Yeah, not sure why there isn't more love for Palmer out there. Hell I'm a Steeler fan and I can't help but give the guy credit. He's an amazing QB.

 

[BobbyLayne]

I see three mentions of Matthew Stafford and two for Mark Sanchez. Top 5 QBs? Really??

I suppose its possible, Aikman looked putrid as a rookie, but I've seen both a lot this year and I don't think they'll be top ten. Five years is a long time, so who knows...

 

[loose circuits]

no mention of Kevin Kolb? Having 2 of the best young WR's in the game, who will only get better should help him out some, no?

 

[switz]

QBs play for a long time. I'd venture to guess that the top 3 are very similar to today with Manning, Brady and Brees.

EXCEPT THATS NOT THE TOP 3 NOW

That is pretty much the consensus top 3 dynasty QBs. Not sure who you'd draft over them in a dynasty league starting today... Care to enlighten us?

 

[awesomeness]

Peyton Manning

Drew Brees

Aaron Rodgers

Philip Rivers

Jimmy Clausen

 

[Horses Mouth]

Manning

Brees

Brady

Rodgers

Roeth