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Pro's and Con's of living on land away from it all. (1 Viewer)

SHIZNITTTT

SHIZNITTTT

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So I have been thinking of buying some property around 10 plus acres living away from everyone.  Possibly by a lake that would be secluded.  I have 12 year old twins that are very active in sports and have practice at least 4 times a week, with games on the weekends.  So I am thinking there will be a ton of commuting, and no kids around for the kids to play with since there will be no neighborhood.  What other pitfalls am I missing?  Pro's or Con's  

TIA

 
How far away?

The obvious cons are higher transportation costs, commute time, longer wait if an emergency happens (emt, police, etc.), longer wait for a pizza, etc.

 
Sconch said:
I can't think of any pros unless I suddenly decided to become a cult leader or serial killer.
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I can't really think of any cons, but I don't like most people so..

We live and raised our kid with a cpl neighbors, but we're ~ 10 mins from town, school etc.

 
Pros:

I grow a significant amount of my own food.

I enjoy peace and tranquility. Can't see or hear my neighbors.

If I choose, I can hunt for turkey, quail, deer and rabbit from my front porch - even an occasional moose or bear. Or I can just enjoy the wildlife.

Cons:

45 minutes from Spokane, but only 15 minutes to nearest small town. I rarely have to go to Spokane for shopping, but the closest emergency room is there.

If there is a break-in, I'm on my own. I'm armed. My wife is armed. I'm pretty good.  She's the better shot.

Even with a defensible perimeter, still a higher forest fire danger.

Wolves and coyotes like the taste of my chickens. So do bald eagles and owls.

I don't see any problem with kids and sports - but I think secluded lakes are a thing of the past.

 
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This is the one and only way I'll live after retirement. It's my one item bucket list for life. But when my kids were young? Don't think I would have done it to them. I mean, it'll be on you to entertain them. The horror!

 
McGarnicle said:
Brain-eating amoebas live in lakes.
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We actually talked about this tonight after seeing some property that was 100 yards from a lake.   Stagnant water and the blue algae as well has hit local lakes the past few years.  

 
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avoiding injuries said:
All the neighbor and HOA threads you've read here...pay them no mind. 
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We currently live in a HOA.  I like the fact that people can't drop their engines out of their car and work on it the front yard.  No dogs chained to cinder blocks.   Kinda keeps the home value up I guess.   Mostly want to live just in a smaller school district, and the land idea just kinda came up.

 
You could put a toilet bowl outside and take dumps in it and not have to worry about neighbors watching you.

 
SHIZNITTTT said:
Maybe 10 minutes from nearest big town.  So maybe 5 miles to nearest store, or restaurant.  
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Heck that's practically civilized. I would think about how isolated you'd be 10, 15, 20 years from now. Will you still be in the country?

 
avoiding injuries said:
One of the biggest changes is having to be more prepared, mostly with groceries. 
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There is something to this. We were without power for several days this winter, but it didn't matter because we use wood heat. Some people around here have generators.

 
avoiding injuries said:
Well water, septic tank and propane were all new to me. Nothing that would sway anything, but different. 
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I live like 40 miles from you and I have two of those things. 

In Michigan I have all three.  Also my house there is 5 miles from the main road, and 12 miles from the closest town and I don't consider it "remote."  I have neighbors I can see, but none of them live there year round so sometimes they are there, and sometimes they aren't.  But even if they are there I don't have to see them if I don't want to. 

 
Doctor Detroit said:
I live like 40 miles from you and I have two of those things. 

In Michigan I have all three.  Also my house there is 5 miles from the main road, and 12 miles from the closest town and I don't consider it "remote."  I have neighbors I can see, but none of them live there year round so sometimes they are there, and sometimes they aren't.  But even if they are there I don't have to see them if I don't want to. 
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Yeah, I live in a neighborhood, so it's not the same as what the OP is considering. Everyone has about 2 acres and there's a few hundred yards between houses. 

Im chiming in more on being away from a town or "civilization".  I have a somewhat local famous restaurant and gas station right next to me, but a grocery store and everything else is 10-15 minutes away. It was a shock at first, but after 5 years, I could never go back. 

 
Can it wait till the kids are finished with HS? Once they are out of HS, in college or working a trade, things are far less complicated. 

 
I meet the criteria in your op. It's more rural than "away from it all." 

Pros: Tons. Where do I start?

Cons: 1 1/2 hours to major sports. Current max internet is 12 Mbps, and I'm lucky. Some people a few miles away are lucky to get 1 Mbps.

 
Grew up on a ranch in the middle I of nowhere. 

Prod: freedom. Appreciate nature, learn to hunt/fish, camp, survive outdoors, learn how to raise crops, tend a garden and raise/care for animals. Learn how to drive at an early age. Kids forced to use imagination rather than stare at TV/iPod all day. Lots of daily chores means tend to be more active and healthier.

Cons: isolation, travel, need extra food storage, need backup power, need expensive equipment such as tractor. Less dates, less nights out on the town. Small town gossip, small town nutbags. 

 
Cons: Living around yokels, your daughter(s) will hate you for ruining their lives (at least socially and socual media wise). 

Pros: You have a flimsy excuse for arming yourself to the teeth

 
johnnyrock62000 said:
I meet the criteria in your op. It's more rural than "away from it all." 

Pros: Tons. Where do I start?

Cons: 1 1/2 hours to major sports. Current max internet is 12 Mbps, and I'm lucky. Some people a few miles away are lucky to get 1 Mbps.
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The reason the person is selling the property that we are looking at is because of internet speed and work.  She works for the DoD and has to have high speed reliable internet service, and it is not available at the moment outside of the larger cities. 

 
Spend a decent amount of time at my FIL's place which is fairly isolated. Internet service is, by far, the biggest drawback. 2nd might be the water. He lost his sense of smell, so he really has no idea and doesn't care to do whatever needs to be done to make the water not taste like someone is farting in your face. Then there's stinkbugs. Stinkbugs are small problem in the city. But you throw up a house on the top of a small mountain with no other house around for 30 acres, It's insane. Everything left there will be ruined by stinkbugs.

Other than that, it's pretty awesome. Four-wheeling, skeet-shooting, gorgeous views. And the sleep. Country sleep is the best. 

 
msommer said:
Cons: Living around yokels, your daughter(s) will hate you for ruining their lives (at least socially and socual media wise). 

Pros: You have a flimsy excuse for arming yourself to the teeth
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You underestimate how much fun kids can have in the country. If they go to school, play sports, and still have access to the internet (even slower internet), they really don't miss much. A nice place in the country is a great place for friends to spend a weekend. 

 
pollardsvision said:
Spend a decent amount of time at my FIL's place which is fairly isolated. Internet service is, by far, the biggest drawback. 2nd might be the water. He lost his sense of smell, so he really has no idea and doesn't care to do whatever needs to be done to make the water not taste like someone is farting in your face. Then there's stinkbugs. Stinkbugs are small problem in the city. But you throw up a house on the top of a small mountain with no other house around for 30 acres, It's insane. Everything left there will be ruined by stinkbugs.

Other than that, it's pretty awesome. Four-wheeling, skeet-shooting, gorgeous views. And the sleep. Country sleep is the best. 
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Drop some chlorine tablets in the well over night. The next morning run an upstairs faucet until you no longer smell the chlorine. 

 
pollardsvision said:
You underestimate how much fun kids can have in the country. If they go to school, play sports, and still have access to the internet (even slower internet), they really don't miss much. A nice place in the country is a great place for friends to spend a weekend. 
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Possibly. I have two teenage daughters that I really would like to have live with me in Peru. But they don't and live with my ex wife instead. Because their entire social life is based where she lives, in Denmark. So, I have given this a lot of thought. And I stand by the statement you bolded

 
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