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Pryor could be pickup of the year....... (1 Viewer)

ppierce

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I'm struggling with who to drop for him but I do know one thing and that is a lot crazier things in fantasy have happend then a Terrell Pryor being top free agent of the year and helping teams win their leagues. It happened with Warner, Vick and many many others.

I could see him totally sucking balls and i could see him being startable over the likes of Luck, Eli, Romo, RGIII etc... You just never know unless you pick him up.

 
Ehhh...

Nice plug in guy but not ready for prime time yet. Week one is one thing. Let's see how he does with teams game planning for his weaknesses.

And I picked him up as a BU QB in one league... so I'm not a "hater". I'd just say be cautious if you're expecting Vick / Kaepernick levels.

 
Guys! I'm having a random thought! I better use the fantasyfootballguys forum as my own personal blog!

 
Good luck with that.
you were the same guy that said that with Warner in 99 and Vick a few years back and Victor Cruz as well.
I don't know about that... hard to be the same guy from back in 99.

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I'll be in the same camp as him. I think you're crazy to think Pryor puts up elite POS1 numbers with the likes of Warner, Brady, Vick, Cruz, Morris and all the other amazing WW wonders we've had in the past. Personally I think there's already guys out there right now with better odds to be "that guy" this season. If I had to give my #1 nomination for who may be the WW steal of the season after Week 1 I think it'd have to be Joique Bell. Bush is already hurt and won't make it a full season and Bell's already Top 5 after Week 1. If Bush can't go in full this week he could continue good production and if Bush misses significant time he may end the season as a RB1 in all formats. That's a little more realistic.

I think Pryor benefited from taking a (bad) Indianapolis Defense off guard. That team figured the game would be a lay up and wasn't expecting Pryor to do what he did in that game. Pryor looked 'ok' but he made some awful decisions on both of those picks and benefited a TON from his receivers literally just walking around in the middle of the field like it was an abandoned park in some zombie movie. That won't happen again real defenses.

 
I could see him finish the season with around 3,000 yards passing with 16 TDs, 700-800 yards rushing with maybe 6 TDs and 25 or so turnovers. And I think those numbers are somewhat conservative. That puts him in the low end of starting QBs in a lot of leagues.

 
I'm struggling with who to drop for him but I do know one thing and that is a lot crazier things in fantasy have happend then a Terrell Pryor being top free agent of the year and helping teams win their leagues. It happened with Warner, Vick and many many others.

I could see him totally sucking balls and i could see him being startable over the likes of Luck, Eli, Romo, RGIII etc... You just never know unless you pick him up.
I'll still know even if I don't pick him up

 
Well I dropped Flacco and am benching Bradford to play him this week against Jacksonville. We will see how that goes before I get any grand designs on his future.

 
Pryors rushing yards should help him put up some fantasy points every week. I cannot imagine starting him though. The Raiders are going to struggle all season even if DMC stays healthy.

 
Well I dropped Flacco and am benching Bradford to play him this week against Jacksonville. We will see how that goes before I get any grand designs on his future.
Sure he's a good value play this week... especially in stuff like Fanduel and Draftstreet leagues where I'll probably be starting him in all of them.

 
I think you better have a dire QB situation to plug this guy in and consistently start him.

The Raiders O-line looked pretty bad. Three guys out due to injury, and the left tackle ain't getting back until much later, if at all.

They looked like a well-coached bad team on Sunday, and I would have to think the book on the Raiders is gonna be: Contain Pryor, and make him throw it.

 
Tebow was fanasty revelant. I think pryor can be too.
this is where i was gonna go too. comparing him to pick up of the year like morris, etc.. is way too extreme. I've followed Pryor (being a buckeye fan). He is extremely fast and a very big bodied QB to take the hits. but his accuracy and decision making will leave you scratching your head more times than not. He'll put up points with his legs, but i wouldn't count on many passing TDs along with an avg. of 1 INT per game (closer to 2).

Still, Tebow did me well as a matchup plug and play when he was with DN, but Oakland doesn't have the Df that Denver had when Tebow was there either.

Just tame your expectations and wisely pick the games you play him. I do think his matchup this week at home against the pitiful Jaguars is one I could see him wind up in the 7-10 spot for QB.

 
the more the raiders stink, the better for pryor.

need them to be down 2 touchdowns in the fourth where garbage time is money time.

 
I think he should be owned in 12-team leagues or larger, but I'll be shocked of he becomes a top-12 option this year. I think he'll be a lot like Vince Young. A few big games, but not enough in the passing department to make his rushing numbers worth it. He could be a good spot start over the bye weeks though.

He was drafted late in my main 12-teamer as a QB3, which is looking like a decent gamble.

 
I certainly don't need Pryor on my roster, but I'll be bidding for him. Nobody on the WW will have more potential value than Pryor. He could also put up some big numbers with his legs and always in catchup mode. In my eyes, a starting QB like Pryor has more potential value than the flavor of the week WR, RB, or TE. If he does turn into something, you could trade him for a lot more than what Edelman, J Bell, or J Thomas will be worth in a month. If he flops, you drop him and don't lose anything in the process.

 
Better dyno stash than Cutler?
Not at this time because we still don't know what we have in Pryor. If you got the roster space, stash both of them (although Cutler is not on the waiver wire in any of my seven leagues). I think we will know in 2-3 weeks if Pryor has the potential to be a legitimate starting QB and if he doesn't pan out, you can cut him then.

 
QB is too deep for Pryor to be pick-up of the year, even if he is a top-10 fantasy QB all season.
I agree with this. There'd have to be a number of injuries for Pryor to be pickup of the year. Too many good QBs. Even if he technically finished top-10, there's be a number of QBs right behind him in scoring.

 
I like the call. I don't believe he'll be an elite fantasy QB by the end of this year -- but I can see it as a possibility.

Two reasons.

One: history says you don't have to be a very successful passing QB in order to be really good for the FF QB position, if you can run a bit and score some TD's on the ground.

Two: I'm a believer that the NFL is going to have at least some success minimizing the effectiveness of the read-option this year, which may well mean some of the more seemingly "likely" run-heavy QB's to be in the top ten, just might fall out...leaving a vacuum at the top.

Nobody's going to shut down the way Pryor runs. His runs aren't part of a designed scheme so much as opportunistic. He's way more Randall Cunningham than Russell Wilson. Except, of course, for the passing, where he's not particularly comparable to either.

 
LOL at this thread, its football season so no need to find stuff to talk about, but are people this bored already to start a thread about the Oakland QB?

 
Phenix said:
LOL at this thread, its football season so no need to find stuff to talk about, but are people this bored already to start a thread about the Oakland QB?
I dont care where he plays, a QB with a 4.4 40 that rushes for a 100 week 1 is an interesting player. I doubt he's the pick up the year but with wheels like those, hes someone to keep an eye on.

 
Phenix said:
LOL at this thread, its football season so no need to find stuff to talk about, but are people this bored already to start a thread about the Oakland QB?
LOL it's one week are people really ready to start a thread about a grocery bagger?

 
I like Terrell Pryor. the athleticism he brings is excellent. Just wish he was on a team with a much more inventive offense. The Kind of offense that would help him put up big points. The Raiders are not that team. The have no good receivers and are basically a run based boring offense.

 
I wouldn't go as far as saying pickup up the year, but he's certainly vaulted himself to bye week fill in material at the very least.

 
He's as good a swing for the fences guy as anyone else. Not sure why everyone in here is freaking out at the suggestion. You never know.

 
ppierce said:
I'm struggling with who to drop for him but I do know one thing and that is a lot crazier things in fantasy have happend then a Terrell Pryor being top free agent of the year and helping teams win their leagues. It happened with Warner, Vick and many many others.

I could see him totally sucking balls and i could see him being startable over the likes of Luck, Eli, Romo, RGIII etc... You just never know unless you pick him up.
All I have to say is one thing. Raiders.

 
ppierce said:
I'm struggling with who to drop for him but I do know one thing and that is a lot crazier things in fantasy have happend then a Terrell Pryor being top free agent of the year and helping teams win their leagues. It happened with Warner, Vick and many many others.

I could see him totally sucking balls and i could see him being startable over the likes of Luck, Eli, Romo, RGIII etc... You just never know unless you pick him up.
All I have to say is one thing. Raiders.
Palmer was a top 15 qb last year. True story.

 
He should be rostered, there's certainly lots of upside with any QB that runs as well and as often as he does. Yeah, he could easily be horrible but then you just drop him in a week or two.

 
You could certainly do worse than Pryor. He didn't get the win and he made some poor decisions down the stretch, but there is very little you can do to stop him from breaking out of the pocket and scoring some points with his legs. Someone who might benefit is McFadden if the line can put together a few good blocks. In order to keep Pryor in the pocket more often, ends will be forced to keep contain and rush further up the field, perhaps giving DMC a slight edge.

Pryor is much smoother than I thought he would be. I think it's also because I haven't seen him play in what seems like ages. He is still as athletic as any guy under center - so I can't see why his ceiling can't be QB8 or so if everything fell right. Sure some RB might come out of nowhere, but you won't go broke putting this guy at the end of your bench for at least a few more weeks.

 
From Pro Football Talk:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/12/pryor-could-be-the-real-deal/

Pryor could be the real deal

Posted by Mike Florio on September 12, 2013, 3:43 PM EDT

We all saw flashes of his potential during the 2012 preseason, but Terrelle Pryor remained tightly under wraps as a regular-season quarterback until Sunday against the Colts. Based on what he accomplished in Indy, there’s no reason to think Pryor can’t continue it, and eventually build on it.

Despite rumblings in the home team’s locker room that Pryor makes one read in the passing game and then runs the ball, our review of the entire game shows multiple occasions in which Pryor dropped back and considered multiple options before throwing or running.

On the opening drive of the game, for example, there were multiple plays in which Pryor made more than one read before throwing the ball, including during a pair of third-down conversions. And when Pryor found Rod Streater on third and 10 for a key first down inside the Colts 10 as Oakland prepared to take its first lead of the game in the fourth quarter, Pryor dropped back, made multiple reads, rolled to the right, and finally connected with Streater.

When Pryor appeared to use the one-read-and-run approach, it was effective far more often than not. He got rid of the ball quickly in many situations, with confidence that the man to whom it was being thrown would be open. When Pryor ran, either by design or due to a breakdown in protection, he was elusive in the backfield and fast once he took off.

Pryor also displayed poise and confidence. Down 14-0 after two Indianapolis drives, Pryor didn’t give up. The Raiders chipped away and eventually took the lead. Even after Colts quarterback Andrew Luck authored his eighth career fourth-quarter come-from-behind drive, Pryor wouldn’t quit, taking the Raiders to the doorstep of the end zone before throwing an interception that ended the game.

Through it all, Pryor made plenty of accurate throws, including a ball lofted to a wide-open Jeron Murstad for a large chunk of ground when the Raiders were driving for a possible win.

Pryor’s best throw of the day ended up not counting. From the Colts 30, running back Darren McFadden lined up wide to the right and ran a slant-and-go. After pumping on the short route, Pryor rainbowed the ball to the front corner of the end zone. McFadden caught it, but he didn’t get a second foot in bounds.

Also, the third-year quarterback from Ohio State also executed the read-option very well, faking out the CBS cameras on multiple occasions when it appeared he’d handed the ball off.

All things considered, it was a great debut from a player who appears to have a ton of potential, especially given the recent rise of the mobile quarterback. If he can continue to get rid of the ball quickly and to avoid the rush and to turn on the jets when it’s time to run north-south, Pryor could become every bit as dangerous as the other starting quarterback in the Bay Area.


 
It is very early to tell with this guy and it is an absolute certainty there there are going to be some horrible games in his future but I pretty much agree with Florio's assessment of the game. It did look like he was doing more than "1-read-and-run" and until the last two plays of the Raiders final drive he looked very poised.

I like his chances for another good game at home against the Jags. It is still very early to make any real judgements, mind you that won't stop me, but on paper I really only see four games that I wouldn't even at least consider starting him (week 3 @ Den, week 10 @ NY Giants, week 11 @ Hou and week 13 @ Cowboys). Other than those I think Oakland's schedule looks quite favorable.

 
http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_24090539/oakland-raiders-learning-handle-terrelle-pryor-going-off

Oakland Raiders learning to handle Terrelle Pryor going off-script

ALAMEDA -- Life with Terrelle Pryor at quarterback means learning on the fly.

Repetition is everything in the NFL, with an emphasis on precision and footwork.

Pryor is improving at that part of his game, but does some of his best work extemporaneously, a jazz musician amidst the concert band.

``Where it gets into a lot of the exciting stuff is when I take off and start to make a play, and that's just reaction,'' Pryor said. ``If nothing's there with the reads, just react and go make a play.''

When the Raiders host the Jacksonville Jaguars Sunday at O.co Coliseum in their home opener, some of the plays which will draw the biggest reaction from the sellout crowd will be when Pryor goes off-script.

Wide receiver Rod Streater worked out with Pryor often during the offseason at Oakland's Laney College, as well as during OTA sessions, minicamps and training camp. But a 17-yard reception following a 10-second Pryor left-to-right scramble against Indianapolis wasn't drawn up on any chalkboard,

``We try to replicate it at practice, but you really can't,'' Streater said. ``It's just a natural thing. You've just got to go out, feel it and get open.''

Wide receiver Denarius Moore said his position group is taking more practice reps at game speed in order to make sure they're in condition to handle the extra wind it takes with Pryor on the loose.

``A normal play takes three to five seconds but with Terrelle it can last up to 10 seconds,'' Moore said. ``There's a bit of conditioning involved, but it's more good than bad.''

Offensive linemen must hold their blocks longer, which right tackle Tony Pashos said is part of the job description.

``In general an offensive lineman doesn't have an egg timer on his plays,'' Pashos said. ``You listen for whistles or crowd noise. You stay on your guy, no matter who it is. I've never thought of it as some task that's hard to do.''

When Pryor started last season's final game against the San Diego Chargers, former offensive coordinator Greg Knapp did little to put Pryor in positions to create, executing a game plan that wasn't markedly different than what Matt Leinart ran the week before.

Greg Olson, who replaced Knapp this season, has adjusted the system since the decision was made to go with Pryor over Matt Flynn.

Pryor's presence, Olson said, has changed how everyone on the offense operates.

``I just think it's a different mindset for everybody and every position -- wide receiver, certainly, offensive lineman, certainly,'' Olson said. ``Where's he going to be? He's not a pocket drop-back passer. That's not his game and we certainly don't want that to become his game right now.

``As athletic as he is, we embellish and appreciate that part of Terrelle Pryor. Everyone is on their toes. When he does create it creates excitement. I think the players feed off of it as much as the fans do.''

At the same time, Pryor is getting better with quick-read throws, short slant routes in particular.

``There are timing things where the ball should be getting out and he does get it out,'' Olson said. ``He'll continue to improve. He works at it.''

Pryor remains outwardly confident in his ability to complete passes both short and long.

``I believe in my ability and the guys know they've got to get on their high horse when I've got a downfield ball because I'm going to get it out there,'' Pryor said.
 
Not a believer in Pryor all season but he's a pretty good plug and play, especially this week. Starting him over Dalton/Bradford.

 

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