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Pryor may not be eligible for the NFL supplemental draft (1 Viewer)

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from Alex Marvez of Fox Sports:

Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor's journey to the NFL might take longer than expected.

Not only has the NFL yet to schedule a supplemental draft for the 2011 season, but Pryor might not qualify if there is one despite having announced plans to enter after leaving Ohio State in early June.

"If there are no players eligible for a supplemental draft, there is no supplemental draft," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello wrote in an email to FOXSports.com on Sunday. "It is for players whose circumstances have changed in an unforeseen way after the regular (college) draft. It is not a mechanism for simply bypassing the regular (draft)."

Aiello cited examples of "unforeseen" changes as players who were kicked off their college teams, declared academically ineligible or graduated and then decided to leave school. Pryor doesn't qualify on any of those fronts.

Although engulfed in a payola scandal that also involved some teammates, Pryor's eligibility status at Ohio State hadn't recently changed at the time of his departure.

Pryor could have turned pro before April's draft but instead accepted a suspension for the first five games of the 2011 season from then-coach Jim Tressel. Pryor left Ohio State shortly after a disgraced Tressel announced his resignation under fire from the NCAA.

"In the best interests of my teammates, I've made the decision to forgo my senior year of football at the Ohio State University," Pryor said in a statement released through his lawyer after first leaving the Buckeyes.

Pryor's status for the supplemental draft will be determined by Joel Bussert, the league's vice president of player personnel/football operations. Aiello said such eligibility is determined on a case-by-case basis.

The NFL has strict rules about supplemental draft eligibility because it doesn't want players trying to skirt the regular draft in an attempt to manipulate where they might be picked. Quarterback Bernie Kosar did just that in 1985 to land with the Cleveland Browns instead of the Minnesota Vikings.

If the supplemental draft isn't an option, Pryor could wait to enter the 2012 NFL draft or try to play in an alternate professional organization like the Canadian Football League. Pryor has signed with an agent and is ineligible to return to Ohio State.

The 6-foot-6, 230-pound Pryor was 31-4 in three seasons as an Ohio State starter and set a school rushing record for a quarterback with 2,164 yards. Some NFL draft analysts projected Pryor as a likely mid-round supplemental pick, although his perceived upside could result in an earlier selection.

When applicants qualify, the supplemental draft is held 10 days before the opening of the first training camp. But the delayed start to the NFL preseason because of a labor impasse with players has helped place this draft in limbo.

Earlier this month, Georgia running back Caleb King announced his intentions to enter the supplemental draft after being declared academically ineligible.

http://msn.foxsports...l-draft--072411

 
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Why post articles like it's you reporting it? Either summarize with an opinion or stop this. You're not some NFL insider

 
'NBusiness said:
Why post articles like it's you reporting it? Either summarize with an opinion or stop this. You're not some NFL insider
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The author's name is in the title.I further identified him in the original post for you.Just thought this was an decent bit of info to pass along.
 
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I remember Mel Kiper saying this exact same thing when Pryor first started taking heat, guess he was right, after all.

 
I have to believe they will grant him eligibility. They have to hold a draft for King. What's one more player? Pryor clearly didn't do this to skirt the regular draft. Besides, the last thing the NFL needs or wants right now is another lawsuit.

 
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So, if ineligible for the supplemental, does he become a UFA? Could this lead to a potential bidding war to sign him off the street?

 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
So, if ineligible for the supplemental, does he become a UFA? Could this lead to a potential bidding war to sign him off the street?
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No, it would mean that he's ineligible to play in the NFL in 2011. He would have to go to the CFL or a minor league to earn a living at football this year, then he would automatically be eligible for the regular draft in 2012.
 
'Joe Summer said:
So, all Pryor has to do is show ONE circumstance in his life that changed since the draft? How hard is that?
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I would think the 5 game 2011 college suspension alone would be enough to consider him eligible. Its obvious why he changed his mind. It wasnt to circumvent the NFL draft.The rules just mean that somebody has to review Pryor's case. Probably just a speed bump.
 
Yaknow, when your reputation is skrewed, when you get a rep as a con artist, it finally catches up with you.

"The NFL has strict rules about supplemental draft eligibility because it doesn't want players trying to skirt the regular draft in an attempt to manipulate where they might be picked."

Well, exactly.

And Pryor would NEVER, ever try to scam anybody, right?

No, he just accepted a commitment to sit out 5 games, that affected recruiting, his coach left, and *then* Pryor decided to SKIP the NFL draft and all the prep that went with it, leave his Buckeye teammates and school in the lurch, and then look out for numero uno by ramping up (so he thought, hoped) his stock in the supplemental draft.

Glad someone caught on despite all the major distractiosn going on in the NFL.

I would not trust this guy to feed my goldfish while I was out of town.

By the way the CFL season has ALREADY STARTED.

Hamilton would be a good place for Pryor to land; Kevin Glenn is the QB so Pryor would have a chance at some playing time later in the season, and while there he could catch the media attention in the greater Lake Ontario basin. Really TP, good luck with all that.

 
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'SaintsInDome2006 said:
Yaknow, when your reputation is skrewed, when you get a rep as a con artist, it finally catches up with you."The NFL has strict rules about supplemental draft eligibility because it doesn't want players trying to skirt the regular draft in an attempt to manipulate where they might be picked."Well, exactly.And Pryor would NEVER, ever try to scam anybody, right?No, he just accepted a commitment to sit out 5 games, that affected recruiting, his coach left, and *then* Pryor decided to SKIP the NFL draft and all the prep that went with it, leave his Buckeye teammates and school in the lurch, and then look out for numero uno by ramping up (so he thought, hoped) his stock in the supplemental draft.Glad someone caught on despite all the major distractiosn going on in the NFL.I would not trust this guy to feed my goldfish while I was out of town.By the way the CFL season has ALREADY STARTED. Hamilton would be a good place for Pryor to land; Kevin Glenn is the QB so Pryor would have a chance at some playing time later in the season, and while there he could catch the media attention in the greater Lake Ontario basin. Really TP, good luck with all that.
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I dont buy what you are saying at all. Pryor had very little time after the suspension was announced to declare and they were going to appeal the suspension. Things were far from sorted out at that point in time and declaring for the NFL draft is a huge decision. If he had been sure of wanting to join the NFL at that time, Pryor would have declared himself eligible for the regular draft.We are talking about a player who isnt going to make an immediate impact in the NFL. A guy with only a mid round draft grade. The only way he could have gotten a big money contract right away was to play another year in college and show a lot of improvement. BTW, if Pryor is declared ineligible for the supplemental draft, that means he will be eligible to return to Ohio State.
 
'UnknownCoach said:
'SaintsInDome2006 said:
Yaknow, when your reputation is skrewed, when you get a rep as a con artist, it finally catches up with you.

"The NFL has strict rules about supplemental draft eligibility because it doesn't want players trying to skirt the regular draft in an attempt to manipulate where they might be picked."

Well, exactly.

And Pryor would NEVER, ever try to scam anybody, right?

No, he just accepted a commitment to sit out 5 games, that affected recruiting, his coach left, and *then* Pryor decided to SKIP the NFL draft and all the prep that went with it, leave his Buckeye teammates and school in the lurch, and then look out for numero uno by ramping up (so he thought, hoped) his stock in the supplemental draft.

Glad someone caught on despite all the major distractiosn going on in the NFL.

I would not trust this guy to feed my goldfish while I was out of town.

By the way the CFL season has ALREADY STARTED.

Hamilton would be a good place for Pryor to land; Kevin Glenn is the QB so Pryor would have a chance at some playing time later in the season, and while there he could catch the media attention in the greater Lake Ontario basin. Really TP, good luck with all that.
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I dont buy what you are saying at all. Pryor had very little time after the suspension was announced to declare and they were going to appeal the suspension. Things were far from sorted out at that point in time and declaring for the NFL draft is a huge decision. If he had been sure of wanting to join the NFL at that time, Pryor would have declared himself eligible for the regular draft.We are talking about a player who isnt going to make an immediate impact in the NFL. A guy with only a mid round draft grade. The only way he could have gotten a big money contract right away was to play another year in college and show a lot of improvement.

BTW, if Pryor is declared ineligible for the supplemental draft, that means he will be eligible to return to Ohio State.
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No. He hired an agent a while ago. I am not a fan of Pryor either, but this is an odd way to pile on. The rule seems pretty stupid anyway. If you flunk out of school, you are eligible, but if you just drop out then you aren't?

The rule is subjective anyway so I think they will look at it logically and say he clearly was not just dodging the draft and let him in.

 
'Joe Summer said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
So, if ineligible for the supplemental, does he become a UFA? Could this lead to a potential bidding war to sign him off the street?
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No, it would mean that he's ineligible to play in the NFL in 2011. He would have to go to the CFL or a minor league to earn a living at football this year, then he would automatically be eligible for the regular draft in 2012.
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Good Posting...also, LOL for a bidding war on Pryor.
 
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the CFL actually had a rule that said if you're not eligible to play in the NFL, you're not eligible in the CFL either.

 
'Truman said:
'GroveDiesel said:
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the CFL actually had a rule that said if you're not eligible to play in the NFL, you're not eligible in the CFL either.
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This is only if you're under contract to a NFL team.
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CFL to bar suspended NFL players
With the Grey Cup only a few days away, CFL commissioner Tom Wright said the league will bar players suspended from the NFL starting in 2007.

The issue came to the forefront this season when suspended NFL star Ricky Williams was allowed to play with the Toronto Argonauts.

Williams's move to Toronto caused controversy because the Miami Dolphins running back has a history of positive drug tests for marijuana and is currently serving a one-year suspension from the NFL.

Under the new rule, Williams would no longer be welcome in the CFL.

Former Calgary Stampeder Greg Frers, now an analyst for the CFL on CBC, said the league had to take action to stop this kind of thing from happening again.

"I think it's the right thing to do. If [Williams] comes in and is able to get employment in the CFL, that comes with levels of baggage and messaging that we don't want to send to our fans," Frers told CBC Radio.

Saskatchewan Roughriders general manager Eric Tillman doesn't see things the same way.

"The vast majority of players in this league are good quality people. And, candidly, some of the people that have made statements with regards to Ricky Williams I think were unbelievably hypocritical," Tillman said.

The rule also doesn't make sense to Michael Fletcher, William's teammate with the Argonauts.

"Ricky's not a criminal. You know, apparently, he's had drug problems or marijuana or whatever. So you don't [have] to worry about him going down the street getting into trouble; he's not one of those guys. I mean if it's not a criminal offence, I think guys should definitely have a second chance," Fletcher said.

Duane Forde, who played 12 years in the CFL, says the league has a record of giving second chances to a number of players with violent pasts and criminal records over the years.

He points to the example of former Montreal Alouettes running back Lawrence Phillips who, according to Forde, was accused of far worse than Williams.

"It's a less serious offence than a guy who beat up his girlfriend, dragged her down a set of stairs or even more recently tried to run down a group of kids with his car," Forde said.

Forde says what he finds troubling is that a player with a violent past such as Phillips could still play in the CFL under the new policy. If the player isn't suspended in the NFL, most likely, he'll still be allowed on the field in Canada.

The CFL says one of the reasons for the ban is to maintain a good relationship with the NFL.
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Pryor isn't suspended from the NFL, so he would be elligible to play in the CFL but has stated in the past that he had no intention of playing in the CFL. I wonder if he will change his tune, if he is indeed ineligible to play in the NFL for the 2011 season.The Saskatchewan Roughriders have his CFL rights:

Pryor says no to CFL’s Roughriders

 
Ohio State tells NFL Pryor would not have been allowed to return.

Now he fully meets the normal standards for supplemental draft. Only way he is rebuked is if NFL wants to make an example out of him for some odd reason.

 
per Shawn Zobel of www.draftheadquarters.com:

Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor reportedly ruled ineligible for the Supplemental Draft

 
per John Clayton's twitter:

There may not be a supplemental draft this year because Terrelle Pryor isn't eligible and they may not be any players to select.

Terrelle Pryor is ineligible because the NCAA and Ohio State haven't formally ruled anything on him and that needs to happen for the draft.

 
Report: Pryor ineligible for supplemental draft

Posted July 29, 2011 @ 9:37 p.m. Posted July 30, 2011 @ 4:47 p.m. ET

By PFW staff So much for the Jon Gruden special. It looks like Terrelle Pryor will have to wait a year before he enters the NFL.

According to ESPN's John Clayton, the former Ohio State quarterback has been ruled ineligible for the NFL's supplemental draft because the NCAA and OSU have yet to formally rule anything on him, and that needs to happen for him to enter the supplemental draft.

Earlier in the week, league spokesman Greg Aiello explained rules of the supplemental draft to Fox Sports' Alex Marvez.

"If there are no players eligible for a supplemental draft, there is no supplemental draft," he said. "It is for players whose circumstances have changed in an unforeseen way after the regular (college) draft. It is not a mechanism for simply bypassing the regular (draft)."

Pryor had not been kicked off his team, nor had he been declared academically ineligible. He also has not graduated. Pryor decided to forgo his senior season.

He had already received a five-game suspension before deciding to leave school. There have been allegations that Pryor received improper benefits. His former head coach, Jim Tressel, resigned because of the controversy.

Pryor signed with agent Drew Rosenhaus, making him ineligible to return to the NCAA.

The way we see it

Pryor would have been selected in the supplemental draft, had he been eligible, but no higher than a third- or fourth-round pick. He has the athleticism but there are a lot of questions about his character and ability to play quarterback in the NFL. Now, he has to wait until the 2012 NFL draft and may look to join the CFL to get professional playing experience.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/07/30/report-pryor-ineligible-for-supplemental-draft

 
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