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Strangely, I like Kaep more for doing this (IMO he was the least likable QB in the NFL). Before I thought he was just a rich jerk but now I think he's a rich jerk who - rightly or wrongly - is standing up for something and creating a nationwide discussion.

 
Long Ball Larry said:
Supposedly donating $1 million to "social justice causes".
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"I am planning to take it a step further, I'm currently working with organizations to be involved, and making sure I'm actively in these communities, as well as donating the first million dollars I make this year to different organizations to help these communities and help these people," he said.

Kaepernick added: "I've been very blessed to be in this position and make the kind of money I do, and I have to help these people. I have to help these communities. It's not right that they're not put in the position to succeed, or given the opportunities to succeed."

In Oakland, Lane sat on the bench behind his standing teammates before Seattle's game against the Raiders. Lane said he doesn't know Kaepernick, but was "standing behind him."

"It's something I plan to keep on doing until I feel like justice has been served," Lane said. "No, I didn't tell anyone I was going to do it. I just did it. ... I don't mean no disrespect toward anybody, but I'm just standing behind what I believe."
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JZilla said:
I think it's a real story that's moving the conversation in a promising direction.  I watched his whole presser late last night and I was proud of the guy :shrug:

Some NFL players seem ready to take on this issue, that's good.  The socks were dumb, no question about that.. but it takes some guts and the right kind of attitude to do what he's doing now
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I'm happy he's standing up for what he believes in and I agree with his underlying message.  But the only difference between this and the dozens of other prominent athletes and celebrities who've done the same is that he chose the national anthem as the vehicle to express his frustrations and desire for change. I don't really care what anyone does during the national anthem so it never struck me as a big deal, but I guess he deserves extra credit from a marketing perspective for knowing people would get their panties in a wad about it.

Now if we can also change the national anthem to a better song we'd really be talking.  Give me This Land is Your Land all day over that awful claptrap.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Of course this is a nothing story ... but our nation's two greatest sources of asinine hot-takery are sports and racial politics, and this is a perfect storm. Aging white columnists at mid-sized newspapers across the country probably creamed their pleated khakis when they first heard about it.
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:lmao:

 
He's not the only athlete to use the anthem to protest, nor use it as a protest of oppression.

Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (Chris Jackson) did it years back in the NBA  and so did Tommy Smith and John Carlos at '68 Olympics

 
TobiasFunke said:
I'm happy he's standing up for what he believes in and I agree with his underlying message.  But the only difference between this and the dozens of other prominent athletes and celebrities who've done the same is that he chose the national anthem as the vehicle to express his frustrations and desire for change. I don't really care what anyone does during the national anthem so it never struck me as a big deal, but I guess he deserves extra credit from a marketing perspective for knowing people would get their panties in a wad about it.

Now if we can also change the national anthem to a better song we'd really be talking.  Give me This Land is Your Land all day over that awful claptrap.
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Hey my cousin wrote that song #######

I thought the sitting was sloppy, his words were sloppy and after the socks pic came out yesterday I figured he's on the last train to embarrassmentville.  But last night changed my mind completely.. The kneeling was a better idea, and after the game he was focused, relaxed, articulate, and I felt like I was watching something important.  Not many pro athletes people could get up there and handle that the way he did.. Probably a big part of why it hadn't really happened yet.

 
I'd be very surprised if he actually donates that $1M...talk is cheap, so I hope he can back it up and actually follow through on his words.  By the looks of him, he can't even afford a hair cut right now.  

 
Gustavo Fring said:
I'd be very surprised if he actually donates that $1M...talk is cheap, so I hope he can back it up and actually follow through on his words.  By the looks of him, he can't even afford a hair cut right now.  
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Sept '16: Promises to donate $1M.

Dec '16: Actually donates $1M.

2018: Files for bankruptcy.

Count on it.

 
JZilla said:
Hey my cousin wrote that song #######

I thought the sitting was sloppy, his words were sloppy and after the socks pic came out yesterday I figured he's on the last train to embarrassmentville.  But last night changed my mind completely.. The kneeling was a better idea, and after the game he was focused, relaxed, articulate, and I felt like I was watching something important.  Not many pro athletes people could get up there and handle that the way he did.. Probably a big part of why it hadn't really happened yet.
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Totally agree.  FWIW, the socks pic is from several months ago.  But he seemed actually genuine for the first time in my recollection.  There will be no pleasing some but his media session showed a level of depth that I didn't think he had.  Remains to be seen how this develops, but I'm shifting my opinion from sell to hold.

 
Why does his hair style bother some folks??  I have a brother who gets all in a tizzy when he sees the guys with the locks and braids.  Doesn't make sense to me.

 
dutch said:
Why does his hair style bother some folks??  I have a brother who gets all in a tizzy when he sees the guys with the locks and braids.  Doesn't make sense to me.
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I think some are just making fun of it.  I doubt it actually bothers anyone.

I think it's kind of funny imagining that fro in a helmet, but it's not germane to the pig cops or the anthem issues.

 
jonessed said:
I think some are just making fun of it.  I doubt it actually bothers anyone.

I think it's kind of funny imagining that fro in a helmet, but it's not germane to the pig cops or the anthem issues.
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And some of us are jealous that he has that much hair :kicksrock:

 
TobiasFunke said:
I'm happy he's standing up for what he believes in and I agree with his underlying message.  But the only difference between this and the dozens of other prominent athletes and celebrities who've done the same is that he chose the national anthem as the vehicle to express his frustrations and desire for change. I don't really care what anyone does during the national anthem so it never struck me as a big deal, but I guess he deserves extra credit from a marketing perspective for knowing people would get their panties in a wad about it.

Now if we can also change the national anthem to a better song we'd really be talking.  Give me This Land is Your Land all day over that awful claptrap.
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I like our national anthem specifically because it does piss off so many people.

 
dutch said:
Why does his hair style bother some folks??  I have a brother who gets all in a tizzy when he sees the guys with the locks and braids.  Doesn't make sense to me.
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I don't understand that either. At one point a fro was considered a cultural expression of being black and didn't sit well with some establishment folks. Perhaps that mentality still exists today among some of the older crowd.

 
I don't really have a problem with him sitting for the National Anthem.  However, I think he's very confused and doing it for the wrong reasons (girlfriend, self serving social reasons).  He's going down a very angry and hate filled path through life, hopefully someone or something can get through to him and wake him up.  

 
Now the Santa Clara Police Union has sent a letter to the 49ers telling them to basically 'put your boy in his place or we aren't working your games'

If Officer Pete Malloy wasn't enough to make you hate cops, this should be.

 
Limp Ditka said:
Now the Santa Clara Police Union has sent a letter to the 49ers telling them to basically 'put your boy in his place or we aren't working your games'

If Officer Pete Malloy wasn't enough to make you hate cops, this should be.
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Nice to see the police coming out against someone exercising their freedom of expression under the Constitution by silently protesting.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Santa-Clara-Police-Officers-Association-May-Boycott-Working-49ers-Games-392214541.html

Make America Great Again!

 
squistion said:
I don't understand that either. At one point a fro was considered a cultural expression of being black and didn't sit well with some establishment folks. Perhaps that mentality still exists today among some of the older crowd.
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Or perhaps the same people that think a mohawk, long purple hair, mullets, or crusty hippie dreads are all pretty stupid think a fro is as well. 

 
Those police aren't using their brains. Dumb stance, and it'd be great if the governor sent them a message that if they are assigned to protect 60,000 citizens, they should ####ing do it.

 
massraider said:
Those police aren't using their brains. Dumb stance, and it'd be great if the governor sent them a message that if they are assigned to protect 60,000 citizens, they should ####ing do it.
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So Kap should have the right to protest, but officers should be forced to VOLUNTEER and not have the right to do the same? Interesting take on rights you have there.

 
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massraider said:
Those police aren't using their brains. Dumb stance, and it'd be great if the governor sent them a message that if they are assigned to protect 60,000 citizens, they should ####ing do it.
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Shocking cops often have a rep for being thick. Yes, let's put 60k people at risk because one guy sat down or wore a pair of socks you didn't like. People are out of their ####### trees in this country.

 
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Shocking cops often have a rep for being thick. Yes, let's put 60k people at risk because one guy sat down or wore a pair of socks you didn't like. People are out of their ####### trees in this country.
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The 49ers are free to hire private security.

 
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