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Kaepernick should wear his pig socks to support the mad man who stabbed eight people in Minnesota before an off duty cop shot him dead.  #nobodydeservestodie

 
tjnc09 said:
Kaepernick should wear his pig socks to support the mad man who stabbed eight people in Minnesota before an off duty cop shot him dead.  #nobodydeservestodie
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Call the police there's a mad man around
Running down underground
To a shopping mall in a Midwest town

 
Damn shame this CK thug had to make himself the center of attention for 2 minutes before the game today. I really think they had a chance v the Panthers if it wasn't for that.

 
Can't find a picture or video, but Jordin Sparks (who sang the anthem in Minnesota last night) appeared to have a patch on the left shoulder of her shirt that looked like the flag from either Germany or Belgium. Seemed like a poor wardrobe choice. 

 
http://www.knbr.com/2016/09/20/kaepernick-to-donate-100k-a-month-to-community-organizations/

Kaepernick to donate $100k a month to community organizations

SANTA CLARA — Quarterback Colin Kaepernick met with beat writers in an informal setting Tuesday in the 49ers locker room.

Kaepernick announced he’s donating $100,000 over the next 10 months and creating a website where people can track where the money is going. Kaepernick has yet to determine which organizations he will donate to, but noted they will be scattered throughout the country.
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A high percentage of commenters on stories about the poor NFL tv ratings for the first two weeks are blaming the decline on Kaepernick and viewers' revulsion at "anti-patriotic" or just plain "political" actions. Many are claiming that a boycott is in effect.

 
roadkill1292 said:
A high percentage of commenters on stories about the poor NFL tv ratings for the first two weeks are blaming the decline on Kaepernick and viewers' revulsion at "anti-patriotic" or just plain "political" actions. Many are claiming that a boycott is in effect.
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Is there normally a dip in ratings during an election year?

ETA:

The only refuge against deep concern for what has happened is that full-season NFL ratings in 2012 were down 4 percent from 2011. It seems like a thin argument, but one might blame that drop in 2012 on that year's presidential election campaign, and then contend that we're seeing the same thing this year, perhaps even moreso because there is no incumbent candidate.
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roadkill1292 said:
A high percentage of commenters on stories about the poor NFL tv ratings for the first two weeks are blaming the decline on Kaepernick and viewers' revulsion at "anti-patriotic" or just plain "political" actions. Many are claiming that a boycott is in effect.
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I just think the popularity is near a peak, same with magic football, and it is pretty clear my stance on Kaep in this thread. Boycott sounds dumb IMO and not the likely cause of ratings decline.

I've been a diehard football fan my whole life, but even this year I'm slightly less interested.

 
fantasycurse42 said:
I just think the popularity is near a peak, same with magic football, and it is pretty clear my stance on Kaep in this thread. Boycott sounds dumb IMO and not the likely cause of ratings decline.

I've been a diehard football fan my whole life, but even this year I'm slightly less interested.
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I quit magic football this year and haven't watched a full game yet.

 
Ditka Butkus said:
I'm glad he put a cap on the term...He won't have a job next year to continue.
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Yes, he will, demand for guys who can play the NFL QB position exceeds supply.  The Vikings traded a first to get Sam Bradford. At the very least CK will be a backup for some team.

 
So a man who has career earning over half way to 9 figures is donating one million dollars. 

I'd like to think that the average earner donates more of their income on a percentage basis than this guy :shrug:  

And that percentage means a lot more to someone who isn't earning 8 figures annually. 

 
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fantasycurse42 said:
So a man who has career earning over half way to 9 figures is donating one million dollars. 

I'd like to think that the average earner donates more of their income on a percentage basis than this guy :shrug:  

And that percentage means a lot more to someone who isn't earning 8 figures annually. 
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First he was criticized for not putting anything back into the inner cities or for helping blacks. Not that he is doing something specific, the criticism is that a million is not enough and it should be more.

It is pretty obvious that no matter what he does, his critics will find fault with it just like they are doing here.

 
rude classless thugs said:
First he was criticized for not putting anything back into the inner cities or for helping blacks. Not that he is doing something specific, the criticism is that a million is not enough and it should be more.

It is pretty obvious that no matter what he does, his critics will find fault with it just like they are doing here.
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I stated about 3 dozen pages ago that a donation under $10M-$15M from him would be meaningless IMO if he feels so strongly :shrug:

A million dollars - that is nothing to a guy that should have easily $25-$30M in the bank. 

If I had that kind of money, I'd be donating a #### ton more than that to causes I thought were worthwhile.

Furthermore, if so many players feel so strongly about this, it shouldn't take more than days to have $20 or $30M in donations across the board. Taking a knee just appears to be an easy out.

 
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fantasycurse42 said:
I stated about 3 dozen pages ago that a donation under $10M-$15M from him would be meaningless IMO if he feels so strongly :shrug:

A million dollars - that is nothing to a guy that should have easily $25-$30M in the bank. 

If I had that kind of money, I'd be donating a #### ton more than that to causes I thought were worthwhile.

Furthermore, if so many players feel so strongly about this, it shouldn't take more than days to have $20 or $30M in donations across the board. Taking a knee just appears to be an easy out.
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Thank you for being the judge and jury about how much of someone's worth should be fair game when it comes to philanthropy.

 
Freedom of speech? I don't see a big deal. I also don't understand why we have the national anthem before domestic sport games. It's not the Olympics..

 
fantasycurse42 said:
I stated about 3 dozen pages ago that a donation under $10M-$15M from him would be meaningless IMO if he feels so strongly :shrug:

A million dollars - that is nothing to a guy that should have easily $25-$30M in the bank. 

If I had that kind of money, I'd be donating a #### ton more than that to causes I thought were worthwhile.

Furthermore, if so many players feel so strongly about this, it shouldn't take more than days to have $20 or $30M in donations across the board. Taking a knee just appears to be an easy out.
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Sure you would.

And he has brought more attention to his cause by taking a knee than if he had donated $15 million.

 
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fantasycurse42 said:
I stated about 3 dozen pages ago that a donation under $10M-$15M from him would be meaningless IMO if he feels so strongly :shrug:

A million dollars - that is nothing to a guy that should have easily $25-$30M in the bank. 

If I had that kind of money, I'd be donating a #### ton more than that to causes I thought were worthwhile.

Furthermore, if so many players feel so strongly about this, it shouldn't take more than days to have $20 or $30M in donations across the board. Taking a knee just appears to be an easy out.
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:lmao:

 
During homeroom I caught one of my students letting his eyes wander towards the Garfield "History Can Be A Blast From the Past!" poster instead of the flag during the Pledge.

He should be out of the cast in 8-10 weeks. 

 
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Aaron Hernandez weighs in. 

http://www.totalprosports.com/2016/09/21/aaron-hernandez-says-he-kneels-during-the-anthem-to-bring-awareness-to-senseless-killings/

Former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez, who was sentenced to life in prison without parole after being convicted of first-degree murder, wants to support San Francisco 49ers QB Colin Kaepernick and his quest to bring awareness to the unjust killings in this country.

While sitting in his cell and watching NFL games on Sunday, Hernandez says he kneels while the National Anthem is playing because minorities are being oppressed and losing their life over situations that could be handled differently.


Aaron Hernandez: “I just don’t get it. What happened to the real cops that could arrest people without incident, like they did me when I was charged with killing people? I’m innocent by the way, that wasn’t me on camera holding a gun, clearly videoshopped”

Interviewer: “Aren’t you the suspect in two other murders?”

Aaron Hernandez: “Didn’t Ray Lewis stab two people and he’s free? Stop bringing up old ####.”

Interviewer: “Is there anything else you would like to add?”

Aaron Hernandez: “Yeah, I heard Gronk is out with an injury. Tell Belichick if he needs me, Casey Anthony’s lawyer is getting me out of this jam soon, so holla at ya boy. Blood-gang Suwoooop! Don’t publish that part. Black Lives Matter and I’m out.”



((PARODY))

 
D-Day said:
The point of the protest is that the flag and the anthem are now symbols of social injustice and inequality to a portion of our country.  It is time to get on the right side of history and get rid of the Stars and Stripes just as the stars and bars have been removed. 
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Please don't even kid about this...

 
parasaurolophus said:
I love when you bring up things that are irrelevant and act like you are correcting somebody. Who cares if Kaepernick wore the shirt and socks at a game? What does that have to do with anything? When did anybody say he wore them at a game? 
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Obviously you care because you were the one who brought up the shirt and socks (see bolded below). So, you don't think these things are irrelevant and you do care about them. I was simply responding to points that you raised, which you now say are irrelevant.

parasaurolophus said:
 I also love how you are trying to spin Kaepernick's actions. All he did was kneel silently! it's not like he plopped his rear down on a bench...err wait. It's not like he wore a shirt to provoke....Errr... wait. I mean its not like he wore socks to provoke...errr... wait. 
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http://www.espn.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/19783/undefined


Colin Kaepernick set to appear on the cover of Time magazine


SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick's protest of racial inequality and oppression in the United States has landed him on the cover of the upcoming issue of Time magazine.

The magazine tweeted out the cover Thursday morning showing Kaepernick kneeling as he's done during the national anthem of the past two regular-season games and the final preseason contest in San Diego. The headline on the cover is "The Perilous Fight" followed by "National anthem protests led by Colin Kaepernick are fueling a debate about privilege, pride and patriotism."

TIME ✔ @TIME 

TIME’s new cover: The perilous fight. How national anthem protests led by Colin Kaepernick are fueling a debate http://ti.me/2d6OQJI 


7:15 AM - 22 Sep 2016
 
 
 

 
Interesting turn of events - Kaepernick and various other athletes are allowed to protest National Anthem under the auspices of freedom of speech protected under the Bill of Rights.  I get it, I do not like their decision, but it is theirs to make.  Steve Clevenger, a no name catcher in the Mariners organization, tweets some less than politically correct opinions regarding BLM on twitter and is suspended without pay for the remainder of the season.  To me that move reinforces the institutionalized racism the Kaepernick protest is supposedly against. Clevenger remarks were certainly banal - ending a tweet about a black person shot by a black cop with "haha".  However, to suspend him without pay seems a bit excessive, not to mention the inconsequential nature of who he is - he is a nobody.  Much like the nobody that is Kaepernick who is equally exercising his right.  

 
While I wasn't around back then, I assume the country was more divided during the race wars of the 60's?  This is the most divided I can remember it though.  Sad, because our nation has a history of recognizing and overcoming obvious inequalities (slavery, women voting, etc), but the black experience in this country seems to have been simmering for a long time and I don't see any way the sides come together for a reasonable resolution.  We'll probably just continue to putter along with the same just under the surface tensions we've had for a while now. 

 
James Daulton said:
While I wasn't around back then, I assume the country was more divided during the race wars of the 60's?  This is the most divided I can remember it though.  Sad, because our nation has a history of recognizing and overcoming obvious inequalities (slavery, women voting, etc), but the black experience in this country seems to have been simmering for a long time and I don't see any way the sides come together for a reasonable resolution.  We'll probably just continue to putter along with the same just under the surface tensions we've had for a while now. 
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Back then, people were getting assassinated and domestic terrorists were blowing up black churches, so no I'd say we're not as divided now as the country was then.

Seriously, when "backup QB for a terrible team refuses to participate in symbolic gesture" is national news, we're doing well.

 
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IvanKaramazov said:
Back then, people were getting assassinated and domestic terrorists were blowing up black churches, so no I'd say we're not as divided now as the country was then.

Seriously, when "backup QB for a terrible team refuses to participate in symbolic gesture" is national news, we're doing well.
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Good points.

 
rockaction said:
Okay, that was poorly written. I just think our society is doing much better than we were in '68-'70.  :D
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I'm an expert on poor writing, was just trying to lighten things up...and brothers are the best! I acknowledge your point, wasn't trying to belittle... just having a wee bit of fun. :thumbup:

 
Kafka said:
I'm an expert on poor writing, was just trying to lighten things up...and brothers are the best! I acknowledge your point, wasn't trying to belittle... just having a wee bit of fun. :thumbup:
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Yep. I didn't take it badly, actually. Just realizing I could have written it better.   :thumbup:

 
Mr. Know-It-All said:
Interesting turn of events - Kaepernick and various other athletes are allowed to protest National Anthem under the auspices of freedom of speech protected under the Bill of Rights.  I get it, I do not like their decision, but it is theirs to make.  Steve Clevenger, a no name catcher in the Mariners organization, tweets some less than politically correct opinions regarding BLM on twitter and is suspended without pay for the remainder of the season.  To me that move reinforces the institutionalized racism the Kaepernick protest is supposedly against. Clevenger remarks were certainly banal - ending a tweet about a black person shot by a black cop with "haha".  However, to suspend him without pay seems a bit excessive, not to mention the inconsequential nature of who he is - he is a nobody.  Much like the nobody that is Kaepernick who is equally exercising his right.  
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:no:

Clevenger's tweet was in extremely poor taste.  I think the whole BLM thing has been handled poorly, but you can't say stupid ### things like Clevenger did and expect there to not be consequences. 

 
Ghost Rider said:
:no:

Clevenger's tweet was in extremely poor taste.  I think the whole BLM thing has been handled poorly, but you can't say stupid ### things like Clevenger did and expect there to not be consequences. 
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Sure you can, as long as it is politically correct.  Don't forget the taking a knee was not the only protest Kap was doing.  Everyone wants to focus on that but the "pig" stuff on the socks is not getting much play.  It is way more offensive and in poor taste than Clevenger's statement.

Edit -  I believe he only wore them the first kneel down protest and is not now, but no ramifications from that expression of opinion.

 
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Ksquared said:
Sure you can, as long as it is politically correct.  Don't forget the taking a knee was not the only protest Kap was doing.  Everyone wants to focus on that but the "pig" stuff on the socks is not getting much play.  It is way more offensive and in poor taste than Clevenger's statement.
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The socks were worn in practice, not at a game.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Back then, people were getting assassinated and domestic terrorists were blowing up black churches, so no I'd say we're not as divided now as the country was then.

Seriously, when "backup QB for a terrible team refuses to participate in symbolic gesture" is national news, we're doing well.
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Ksquared said:
Sure you can, as long as it is politically correct.  Don't forget the taking a knee was not the only protest Kap was doing.  Everyone wants to focus on that but the "pig" stuff on the socks is not getting much play.  It is way more offensive and in poor taste than Clevenger's statement.
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When you label peaceful protesters "animals" and call for them to be thrown in jail, things aren't going to end well for you.

But hey, that's definitely less offensive than socks.

 
Ghost Rider said:
:no:

Clevenger's tweet was in extremely poor taste.  I think the whole BLM thing has been handled poorly, but you can't say stupid ### things like Clevenger did and expect there to not be consequences. 
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I agree that Clevenger should have been reprimanded - just as Kaepernick should have been.  By punishing one and not the other, you are essentially admitting one is not being disciplined because of the color of his skin or the content of his message.  If it is the former, then it is unequal treatment which is what Kaepernick is protesting; if it is the latter then freedom of speech is dependent on the content of the message beyond not yelling fire in a crowded movie theater.

 
Trevor Noah on conservative commentator Tomi Lahren:

The Daily ShowVerified account ‏@TheDailyShow Sep 23

Conservative commentator @TomiLahren lashes out at NFL star Colin Kaepernick for protesting the national anthem.

http://on.cc.com/2cpNFiK

“But I must say, I do love this logic: ‘Shut up and be happy that no one forces you to shut up. Because that’s what makes this country great, is that you can complain. So stop complaining.'”
 
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