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Kaep Sitting for Anthem


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When you label peaceful protesters "animals" and call for them to be thrown in jail, things aren't going to end well for you.

But hey, that's definitely less offensive than socks.
Peaceful??

 
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squistion said:
The socks were worn in practice, not at a game.
It still shows how ####ty his attitude is about it in general.  Wearing socks wear pigs are cops is something a 10-year old would do. 

Mr. Know-It-All said:
I agree that Clevenger should have been reprimanded - just as Kaepernick should have been.  By punishing one and not the other, you are essentially admitting one is not being disciplined because of the color of his skin or the content of his message.  If it is the former, then it is unequal treatment which is what Kaepernick is protesting; if it is the latter then freedom of speech is dependent on the content of the message beyond not yelling fire in a crowded movie theater.
Eh, not really.  You are acting like both Clevenger and Kaepernick work for the same employer; they do not.  

What I find bothersome is those who shout down anyone opposed to Kaepernick as being a racist.  It's like, they aren't bright enough to realize that people can disagree with his behavior on merit alone, with race having nothing to do with it.  And I am someone who defended his right to sit or kneel. 

 
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Mr. Know-It-All said:
I agree that Clevenger should have been reprimanded - just as Kaepernick should have been.  By punishing one and not the other, you are essentially admitting one is not being disciplined because of the color of his skin or the content of his message.  If it is the former, then it is unequal treatment which is what Kaepernick is protesting; if it is the latter then freedom of speech is dependent on the content of the message beyond not yelling fire in a crowded movie theater.
49ers could have disciplined Kaep for his actions, but chose not to. They can do that, they're a private employer. The Mariners disciplined Clevenger for his actions. They can do that, they're a private employer. Why should different teams in different leagues be required to handle different incidents in the same way?

 
Mr. Know-It-All said:
I agree that Clevenger should have been reprimanded - just as Kaepernick should have been.  By punishing one and not the other, you are essentially admitting one is not being disciplined because of the color of his skin or the content of his message.  If it is the former, then it is unequal treatment which is what Kaepernick is protesting; if it is the latter then freedom of speech is dependent on the content of the message beyond not yelling fire in a crowded movie theater.
Of course whether an employer disciplines an employee for saying offensive stuff will depend on what the employee actually says. That should not be surprising, and has nothing to do with "freedom of speech" as that phrase is typically used (i.e., to implicate First Amendment considerations).

 
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49ers could have disciplined Kaep for his actions, but chose not to. They can do that, they're a private employer. The Mariners disciplined Clevenger for his actions. They can do that, they're a private employer. Why should different teams in different leagues be required to handle different incidents in the same way?
Could they really? This thing would look organized and peaceful compared to the backlash SF would have gotten had they disciplined Kaepernick for his actions. 

 
This is just getting stupid. The Saints/Falcons stood in a big circle and held hands. Really getting things done.

It doesn't bother me, it just does nothing :shrug:

 
Obviously you care because you were the one who brought up the shirt and socks (see bolded below). So, you don't think these things are irrelevant and you do care about them. I was simply responding to points that you raised, which you now say are irrelevant.
:lmao:  I love it.

You support CK. Then you support some kids getting sent home for wearing a tshirt that was just trying to provoke other kids. I point out (in a sarcastic manner) that kaepernick also wore an offensive shirt and offensive socks so that makes you a hypocrite.

You then pointed out that these things happened in practice not at a game. I point out that nobody said otherwise and that such a point is irrelevant and that nobody cares.  You now point to my original post as to why you felt the need to point out that these things happened at practice and not a game. Whether it was practice or a game is irrelevant so I have no idea why the heck you brought it up and keep bringing it up. 

 
You support CK. Then you support some kids getting sent home for wearing a tshirt that was just trying to provoke other kids. I point out (in a sarcastic manner) that kaepernick also wore an offensive shirt and offensive socks so that makes you a hypocrite.

You then pointed out that these things happened in practice not at a game. I point out that nobody said otherwise and that such a point is irrelevant and that nobody cares.  You now point to my original post as to why you felt the need to point out that these things happened at practice and not a game. Whether it was practice or a game is irrelevant so I have no idea why the heck you brought it up and keep bringing it up. 
I did not bring up the t-shirt and socks, you did. And those things are irrelevant to the discussion of his kneeling during the anthem. His wearing of the t-shirt while talking to the press is also irrelevant to the high school students, who, per court decisions, are subject to dress codes dictated by school authorities and in that case were trying to provoke a violence between races.

 
Colin Kaepernick finally admitted that his loss of weight has become an issue.

The 49ers haven't said how much Kaepernick weighs, but they admits he's not at his listed 225 pounds. And probably isn't close to it. Kap became a vegan last season, and his weight noticeably started to tumble. He has a plan to gain it back: "Eat food. And a lot of it." His fragile build is likely contributing to coach Chip Kelly not putting Kaepernick on the field. "To get the full Kap for what you need -- the potential that he has," Kelly said, "he needs to continue to just work on the physical aspect of things." Kelly has long been big on physical stature.
 
Along with the sitting for the National Anthem ...it is my opinion that Kaepernick has been influenced by his girlfriend and as per usual with us men, he is following the direction of the wrong head.
 
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Colin Kaepernick finally admitted that his loss of weight has become an issue.

The 49ers haven't said how much Kaepernick weighs, but they admits he's not at his listed 225 pounds. And probably isn't close to it. Kap became a vegan last season, and his weight noticeably started to tumble. He has a plan to gain it back: "Eat food. And a lot of it." His fragile build is likely contributing to coach Chip Kelly not putting Kaepernick on the field. "To get the full Kap for what you need -- the potential that he has," Kelly said, "he needs to continue to just work on the physical aspect of things." Kelly has long been big on physical stature.
 
Along with the sitting for the National Anthem ...it is my opinion that Kaepernick has been influenced by his girlfriend and as per usual with us men, he is following the direction of the wrong head.
Ditka Butkus' Girlfriend?

 
parasaurolophus said:
:lmao:  I love it.

You support CK. Then you support some kids getting sent home for wearing a tshirt that was just trying to provoke other kids. I point out (in a sarcastic manner) that kaepernick also wore an offensive shirt and offensive socks so that makes you a hypocrite.

You then pointed out that these things happened in practice not at a game. I point out that nobody said otherwise and that such a point is irrelevant and that nobody cares.  You now point to my original post as to why you felt the need to point out that these things happened at practice and not a game. Whether it was practice or a game is irrelevant so I have no idea why the heck you brought it up and keep bringing it up. 
It's cute that you're trying to reason with squistion.  I wish you luck in your continued endeavors.

 
http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/10/6/13195712/fans-chant-we-want-kap-blaine-gabbert-interception

Fans chant ‘We want Kap’ as Blaine Gabbert struggles

The San Francisco 49ers offense has shown signs of life at times, with “good” Blaine Gabbert making some solid plays. He’s connected with Jeremy Kerley, he’s scrambled for first downs. Not too bad. But each time it seems like they are ready to make this game interesting, “bad” Blaine Gabbert makes an appearance. And each time, the fans have made their preference clear, repeatedly chanting “We want Kap!”

Gabbert just threw his second interception of the night, following a 49ers touchdown and then Cardinals punt. The 49ers seemed to be gaining some semblance of momentum, and then the pick shut that down. It was the second interception, and the Cardinals added a field goal on the ensuing drive to take a 24-14 lead.

This has basically been a wash, rinse, repeat cycle with Gabbert this season. He’ll make some really nice throws, and he’ll follow it up with bad throws, or bad decisions, or just something that makes you want to punch a wall. There is clearly some measure of talent there, but it has also become very clear that he is unlikely to ever hit on that talent with some kind of consistency.

Will Colin Kaepernick be any better than Gabbert? I have no idea. It is possible he does better, and it is also possible he does not. I don’t know, but given how inconsistent (at best) this offense looks, I would happily take something else just for change’s sake. Blaine Gabbert is not a good quarterback. It’s that simple. Yes, the offensive line had some issues on Thursday. Yes, his wide receiver sometimes have plenty of issues. But Gabbert is just not a good quarterback. It feels like the 49ers are just banging their head against the wall over and over again, and we know that’s no fun.

 
Him not being able to overtake Gabbert shows what a ####bag he really is.  He's like Squealstion, Arby's Assistant Manager with zero upside. 

 
Actually excited for him to get on the field and remind us how bad he is. I've watched basically every game he has ever played, I know what is coming - but some of you new Kaep fans rooting for him, I'm excited for that.

I actually predict he plays very well in his first game, possibly in the 2nd game, then implodes no later than game 3, it'll be really fun to watch.

Still hoping for the number one pick and some Watson action (although my love for him is fading a little)... Thinking my boys Gabbert, Kaep, & Ponder can lead us there.

 
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The great thing about Kaepernick is he increases his chance of tearing his ACL and being bankrupt by the end of 2018.

 
Actually excited for him to get on the field and remind us how bad he is. I've watched basically every game he has ever played, I know what is coming - but some of you new Kaep fans rooting for him, I'm excited for that.

I actually predict he plays very well in his first game, possibly in the 2nd game, then implodes no later than game 3, it'll be really fun to watch.

Still hoping for the number one pick and some Watson action (although my love for him is fading a little)... Thinking my boys Gabbert, Kaep, & Ponder can lead us there.
So bad he took his team to a Super Bowl.

 
He said all positions are open for evaluation. He also said Gabbert has been better than Kaep in practice and that's why he's starting.
Pregame there were reports online from observers that Kaep connected twice with Torry Smith on about a 50 yard pass. If you think Gabbert can do that I got some ocean front property in Arizona I would like to sell you.

 
Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl.  He's great right?  76.6 QBR, let go the following year.  Because NFL Championships are all about the QB 
Yes, Kaep was only a game manager just like Dilfer and relied on the defense to carry the 49ers through the season. That was the only reason Harbaugh liked him and why they made it to the Super Bowl.

 
Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl.  He's great right?  76.6 QBR, let go the following year.  But Kaepernick didn't even win, hmmmm. 
They couldn't get anything for Kaep in a trade. Cleveland opted for RG3/McCown & Denver decided Semian/Paxton Lynch (or whoever they could grab at the end of the first were better options). But Elway prob can't evaluate QB talent.

Rumors were SF wanted a 2nd rounder :lmao:

Baalke/York :doh:

 
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They couldn't get anything for Kaep in a trade. Cleveland opted for RG3/McCown & Denver decided Semian/Paxton Lynch (or whoever they could grab at the end of the first were better options). But Elway prob can't evaluate QB talent.

Rumors were SF wanted a 2nd rounder

Baalke/York
He had a guaranteed base salary of  $11.9 million for the 2016 season that was effective 4/1/16. Not saying he was worth it, but that was the stumbling block to any trades and why they couldn't work out a deal.

 
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