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QB Brock Purdy, SF (3 Viewers)

Well that sucks. Guess we’ll find out how good Lance is.
Or Brady. Which I would hate.
:doh:

Brady is retiring imo
I don't think so. From my outside's view, he essentially sacrificed his marriage to have one more meaningful NFL run and, from the way he wisely (but not best for winning the game immediately) avoided hits the second half of this year, I think he wants to make another run at it.

I could see him going to the Raiders.
The rumor is he came back for one more year so that he could get divorced before getting the massive pay day from a network and potentially become the bread winner before the divorce. He's a bay area guy who has always loved the Niners, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities with the Niners now needing a QB to start the season.
 
Well that sucks. Guess we’ll find out how good Lance is.
Or Brady. Which I would hate.
:doh:

Brady is retiring imo
I don't think so. From my outside's view, he essentially sacrificed his marriage to have one more meaningful NFL run and, from the way he wisely (but not best for winning the game immediately) avoided hits the second half of this year, I think he wants to make another run at it.

I could see him going to the Raiders.
The rumor is he came back for one more year so that he could get divorced before getting the massive pay day from a network and potentially become the bread winner before the divorce. He's a bay area guy who has always loved the Niners, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities with the Niners now needing a QB to start the season.
Interesting theory. Really wouldn't work that way in my state (the two combined make so much money that spousal maintenance/alimony and even child support wouldn't really apply or impact them much) but it may be different in their "home state" or whatever.

I do acknowledge that the Niners would likely be his emotional choice and maybe he would be willing to sign on the cheap. Niners don't really need a QB though with Purdy and Lance IMO. If Brady at all cares about his salary I do think the Raiders make a ton of sense like I posited.
 
I don’t get the take that one injury wipes out everything else this kid has done. I’m sure they’ll announce an open competition in camp - but I’d think Purdy’s game translates better on the practice field - with the coaching staff “knowing” how will it turn out.

It definitely shouldn’t. But having 4 QBs injured this year does give added reason to keep Lance. unless (maybe) they can get a cheap pro to backup Purdy and useful pieces in a deal.
They were 100% keeping Lance next year regardless of how yesterday played out.

There is really no scenario, beyond a foolish franchise offering 3 first round picks, where they aren't keeping Lance.

Purdy could have taken them to the SB and win decisively, and the Niners would 100% be keeping Lance next year.

Just sayin Lance seemed to disagree and it definitely wasn’t 100% certain. Most likely, sure.
Lance disagreed with what? Did he make a statement asking to be traded or demanding to be the starter next season?

There is virtually no scenario where the Niners would move on from Lance ATM. The only possibility would be in another team willing to give up multiple first & second round picks. The Niners would be remiss not to seek those opportunities but they aren't just moving on from him even if they bring in another veteran QB.

🤷 https://theathletic.com/4116478/2023/01/30/49ers-quarterbacks-tom-brady-brock-purdy/
Isn't that simply idle speculation with most of the league in the quiet season?

Brady to the Niners has been rumored for years because it's his home team or some such.

The article literally has one "NFL exec" saying the chatter is Lance will be traded and in the next paragraph another "NFL exec" saying Lance doesn't have value and the Niners won't trade him.

Nothing happening in that article that isn't happening in here and it has no more validity than anything happening in here. Mostly because it covers all the talking points so one of them will be correct.

Lance to Tennessee makes sense on paper, and I honestly have no idea what the Niners consider fair value in return. But with Lance's value at an all time low and being relatively cheap it seems highly unlikely that, say a conditional third would be enough to make it worth their while.
 
I don’t get the take that one injury wipes out everything else this kid has done. I’m sure they’ll announce an open competition in camp - but I’d think Purdy’s game translates better on the practice field - with the coaching staff “knowing” how will it turn out.

It definitely shouldn’t. But having 4 QBs injured this year does give added reason to keep Lance. unless (maybe) they can get a cheap pro to backup Purdy and useful pieces in a deal.
They were 100% keeping Lance next year regardless of how yesterday played out.

There is really no scenario, beyond a foolish franchise offering 3 first round picks, where they aren't keeping Lance.

Purdy could have taken them to the SB and win decisively, and the Niners would 100% be keeping Lance next year.

Just sayin Lance seemed to disagree and it definitely wasn’t 100% certain. Most likely, sure.
Lance disagreed with what? Did he make a statement asking to be traded or demanding to be the starter next season?

There is virtually no scenario where the Niners would move on from Lance ATM. The only possibility would be in another team willing to give up multiple first & second round picks. The Niners would be remiss not to seek those opportunities but they aren't just moving on from him even if they bring in another veteran QB.

🤷 https://theathletic.com/4116478/2023/01/30/49ers-quarterbacks-tom-brady-brock-purdy/
Isn't that simply idle speculation with most of the league in the quiet season?

Brady to the Niners has been rumored for years because it's his home team or some such.

The article literally has one "NFL exec" saying the chatter is Lance will be traded and in the next paragraph another "NFL exec" saying Lance doesn't have value and the Niners won't trade him.

Nothing happening in that article that isn't happening in here and it has no more validity than anything happening in here. Mostly because it covers all the talking points so one of them will be correct.

Lance to Tennessee makes sense on paper, and I honestly have no idea what the Niners consider fair value in return. But with Lance's value at an all time low and being relatively cheap it seems highly unlikely that, say a conditional third would be enough to make it worth their while.

Sure. I’m mostly posting in response to another who asked whether there was any scuttle to Lance moving.
Just my opinion, but I think the 49ers are entirely too close to a title to not go after a guy like Brady, Carr, etc. Lance might be great of course.
I have no idea if the finances work (I suspect they don’t) but a deal where Tanehill goes to SF and Lance to Tennessee makes sense on a very basic initial thought. Possibly not beyond that.
 
I don’t get the take that one injury wipes out everything else this kid has done. I’m sure they’ll announce an open competition in camp - but I’d think Purdy’s game translates better on the practice field - with the coaching staff “knowing” how will it turn out.

It definitely shouldn’t. But having 4 QBs injured this year does give added reason to keep Lance. unless (maybe) they can get a cheap pro to backup Purdy and useful pieces in a deal.
They were 100% keeping Lance next year regardless of how yesterday played out.

There is really no scenario, beyond a foolish franchise offering 3 first round picks, where they aren't keeping Lance.

Purdy could have taken them to the SB and win decisively, and the Niners would 100% be keeping Lance next year.

Just sayin Lance seemed to disagree and it definitely wasn’t 100% certain. Most likely, sure.
Lance disagreed with what? Did he make a statement asking to be traded or demanding to be the starter next season?

There is virtually no scenario where the Niners would move on from Lance ATM. The only possibility would be in another team willing to give up multiple first & second round picks. The Niners would be remiss not to seek those opportunities but they aren't just moving on from him even if they bring in another veteran QB.

🤷 https://theathletic.com/4116478/2023/01/30/49ers-quarterbacks-tom-brady-brock-purdy/
Isn't that simply idle speculation with most of the league in the quiet season?

Brady to the Niners has been rumored for years because it's his home team or some such.

The article literally has one "NFL exec" saying the chatter is Lance will be traded and in the next paragraph another "NFL exec" saying Lance doesn't have value and the Niners won't trade him.

Nothing happening in that article that isn't happening in here and it has no more validity than anything happening in here. Mostly because it covers all the talking points so one of them will be correct.

Lance to Tennessee makes sense on paper, and I honestly have no idea what the Niners consider fair value in return. But with Lance's value at an all time low and being relatively cheap it seems highly unlikely that, say a conditional third would be enough to make it worth their while.

Sure. I’m mostly posting in response to another who asked whether there was any scuttle to Lance moving.
Just my opinion, but I think the 49ers are entirely too close to a title to not go after a guy like Brady, Carr, etc. Lance might be great of course.
I have no idea if the finances work (I suspect they don’t) but a deal where Tanehill goes to SF and Lance to Tennessee makes sense on a very basic initial thought. Possibly not beyond that.
Signing a veteran like Brady makes perfect sense because they are so stacked and Purdy is now a big question mark. And I think Brady would sign a team friendly deal for a shot at increasing his legend.

But I don't think signing Brady means they need to part ways with either Lance or Purdy.
 
If the Niners were to look for additional QB help, they currently have $13.7M in cap space according to Spotrac and $16.4M according to Overthecap. However, they don't have a full slate of players rostered for next year. Overthecap lists them with only 35 players signed for 2023, making their effective cap space only $3.3M (meaning they would fill up the rest of the roster with low dollar players). They have a number of high cap hit players, so they could extend them to free up some cap room to sign other players.
 
Just heard on the radio that Purdy needs Tommy John. So it’s 9 months and then rehab.

The Trey Lance era appears to be eminent.
 
Just heard on the radio that Purdy needs Tommy John. So it’s 9 months and then rehab.

The Trey Lance era appears to be eminent.
The "report" was just a doctor on Dan Patrick's podcast giving his opinion and they ran with it like it was an actual report. I'm not putting much stock into it.




This, despite the framing, is not a report.

It's an opinion of a surgeon who appeared on the "Dan Patrick Show" and incorrectly referred to Purdy's "absolute inability to throw the ball" after his injury."
 
Just heard on the radio that Purdy needs Tommy John. So it’s 9 months and then rehab.

The Trey Lance era appears to be eminent.
The "report" was just a doctor on Dan Patrick's podcast giving his opinion and they ran with it like it was an actual report. I'm not putting much stock into it.

Oh - ok, that’s good to know. They reported it as gospel, so I assumed that was what the 2nd opinion was.

Appreciate the clarification.
 
- ok, that’s good to know. They reported it as gospel, so I assumed that was what the 2nd opinion was.

Appreciate the clarification.
Yeah, I actually posted it in this thread but then realized it's not official so I deleted it.

I'll wait to hear it from Brock himself as I hear he's still weighing his options
 
- ok, that’s good to know. They reported it as gospel, so I assumed that was what the 2nd opinion was.

Appreciate the clarification.
Yeah, I actually posted it in this thread but then realized it's not official so I deleted it.

I'll wait to hear it from Brock himself as I hear he's still weighing his options
That said, a complete tear of the UCL generally means TJ.

Signed,

FBB player for 3 decades.
 
The fact that he's still shopping for evaluations usually means he hasnt heard what he wants...even if its the 6 month recovery, every day he doesnt get the procedure at this point puts him further into training camp. I dont see how Lance doesnt come out in week 1 as the starter unless he pulls a Zach Wilson.
 
Hopefully it’s the 6 month variety. He definitely has age and lack of wear on his side.

I thought I’d heard from a radio doc that he’s looking for other opinions in a “surgical Vs non-surgical” approach - but with a complete tear, I don’t see how a non-surgical approach could be an option.

So it might be that they’re recommending reconstruction.

Either way, Lance is back in play to whatever extent. And as some have said, the longer he waits, the later he could be recovered.

I roster both, so I’m just hoping for opening day clarity. Preferably not involving an outside vet.
 

49ers beat writer Matt Maiocco reports QB Brock Purdy (elbow) is likely to undergo surgery on his torn UCL.​

While nothing is definite at this time, Maiocco believes Purdy will ultimately undergo surgery and face a six-month recovery after the fact. Purdy suffered a torn UCL in the 49ers' NFC Championship Game against the Eagles but has reportedly sought out other opinions on his injury. Despite seeking out other opinions, surgery was always the most likely outcome for Purdy, who should be ready in time for training camp if all goes well. Purdy and Trey Lance are expected to enter 2023 as the 49ers' top-two quarterbacks, but the team is expected to bring in at least one veteran as both are working their way back from injuries.
SOURCE: NBCSports.com
Feb 6, 2023, 3:46 PM ET
 
Barring a setback, Brock should be full go for training camp. Not eased in, but full go from the get.

Link

The likely outcome of surgery will be a consensus toward Purdy requiring an internal brace, and not the longer recovery required for Tommy John surgery.

That’s the best-case scenario for all parties. That would make Purdy’s timeline for a healthy return just as training camp gets under way.

During his press conference last Tuesday, 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan explained why there would be no need for a ramping up period once Purdy is fully cleared to participate at practice

“That was the coolest thing for me to hear about that once three months is over, they start the rehab of just building the arm back slowly, and by six months it’s built back. And that’s when I started asking questions, does that mean ease him in, like when you think of ACLs and they said, no, the buildups been from three-to-six, and at six months, he is the same dude and full go, so that was the most encouraging part that I heard.”

That’s quite the turn of events from a week ago
 
6 month timeframe is doable to keep the job he won. Curious to see how Shanahan handles the duo, but not curious to hear about it 1,476 times between now and August.
From what I gather he still hasnt gotten the surgery unless I missed something - each day that goes by puts him further into training camp - 8/7 and counting. Thats a heck of a head start for Lance. Based on all the capital they spent on Lance if he comes into offseason workouts/minicamp looking good I dont see how they dont use this to give him a chance to open the season as the starter. There would definitely be a short leash but if Im gambling on who the week 1 starter is Im putting my money on Lance.
 
6 month timeframe is doable to keep the job he won. Curious to see how Shanahan handles the duo, but not curious to hear about it 1,476 times between now and August.
From what I gather he still hasnt gotten the surgery unless I missed something - each day that goes by puts him further into training camp - 8/7 and counting. Thats a heck of a head start for Lance. Based on all the capital they spent on Lance if he comes into offseason workouts/minicamp looking good I dont see how they dont use this to give him a chance to open the season as the starter. There would definitely be a short leash but if Im gambling on who the week 1 starter is Im putting my money on Lance.
I saw a couple of places that SF will likely bring in a veteran QB, as they have no way of knowing what the health of Lance or Purdy will be moving forward, how their ongoing recovery will go, and how they will look by Opening Day. There could be three guys vying to start on Week 1. They have 7 players that account for $134M of their salary cap . . . they will have to rework some of the deals regardless of whether they find a third QB option.
 
6 month timeframe is doable to keep the job he won. Curious to see how Shanahan handles the duo, but not curious to hear about it 1,476 times between now and August.
From what I gather he still hasnt gotten the surgery unless I missed something - each day that goes by puts him further into training camp - 8/7 and counting. Thats a heck of a head start for Lance. Based on all the capital they spent on Lance if he comes into offseason workouts/minicamp looking good I dont see how they dont use this to give him a chance to open the season as the starter. There would definitely be a short leash but if Im gambling on who the week 1 starter is Im putting my money on Lance.
I saw a couple of places that SF will likely bring in a veteran QB, as they have no way of knowing what the health of Lance or Purdy will be moving forward, how their ongoing recovery will go, and how they will look by Opening Day. There could be three guys vying to start on Week 1. They have 7 players that account for $134M of their salary cap . . . they will have to rework some of the deals regardless of whether they find a third QB option.
With Lance it seems pretty well known. The 2nd surgery was to remove the metal plates.

He’s on track to start practicing in a little over 2 weeks. Should easily be 100% for OTAs, and camp.

Purdy is a total mystery. Elbows are less predictable. And while I’ve read he’s “opting against TJ”, that’s not really something that can be known until they get in there. It seems likely that with his young age & lack of wear that Tj won’t be needed - but there’s a chance there’s more damage than showed on the MRI.

And then there’s the rehab - it’s gonna be an interesting 6 months.

IMO a veteran will be brought in as a contingency for if Lance just can’t process his reads or show growth as a QB suited to the NFL level.

It seems like he’s got the inside track on starting out of the gate just based on where he is and where Purdy is. No doubt Purdy has earned the gig, but like @Kiddnets, if I had to place a bet, it would be on Lance starting game 1.
 
6 month timeframe is doable to keep the job he won. Curious to see how Shanahan handles the duo, but not curious to hear about it 1,476 times between now and August.
From what I gather he still hasnt gotten the surgery unless I missed something - each day that goes by puts him further into training camp - 8/7 and counting. Thats a heck of a head start for Lance. Based on all the capital they spent on Lance if he comes into offseason workouts/minicamp looking good I dont see how they dont use this to give him a chance to open the season as the starter. There would definitely be a short leash but if Im gambling on who the week 1 starter is Im putting my money on Lance.
I saw a couple of places that SF will likely bring in a veteran QB, as they have no way of knowing what the health of Lance or Purdy will be moving forward, how their ongoing recovery will go, and how they will look by Opening Day. There could be three guys vying to start on Week 1. They have 7 players that account for $134M of their salary cap . . . they will have to rework some of the deals regardless of whether they find a third QB option.
With Lance it seems pretty well known. The 2nd surgery was to remove the metal plates.

He’s on track to start practicing in a little over 2 weeks. Should easily be 100% for OTAs, and camp.

Purdy is a total mystery. Elbows are less predictable. And while I’ve read he’s “opting against TJ”, that’s not really something that can be known until they get in there. It seems likely that with his young age & lack of wear that Tj won’t be needed - but there’s a chance there’s more damage than showed on the MRI.

And then there’s the rehab - it’s gonna be an interesting 6 months.

IMO a veteran will be brought in as a contingency for if Lance just can’t process his reads or show growth as a QB suited to the NFL level.

It seems like he’s got the inside track on starting out of the gate just based on where he is and where Purdy is. No doubt Purdy has earned the gig, but like @Kiddnets, if I had to place a bet, it would be on Lance starting game 1.
Who knows if what gets reported is remotely accurate, but I read at the time that Lance had a second surgery to deal with irritation and inflammation from the initial surgery. West Coasters may have more intel than I do, as I am 3,000 miles away. I only had a passing interest in Lance's recovery, as our son had the same injury and surgeries as Purdy did. Our son needed multiple surgeries before the one to remove the plates (but he's also not an NFL QB).
 
6 month timeframe is doable to keep the job he won. Curious to see how Shanahan handles the duo, but not curious to hear about it 1,476 times between now and August.
From what I gather he still hasnt gotten the surgery unless I missed something - each day that goes by puts him further into training camp - 8/7 and counting. Thats a heck of a head start for Lance. Based on all the capital they spent on Lance if he comes into offseason workouts/minicamp looking good I dont see how they dont use this to give him a chance to open the season as the starter. There would definitely be a short leash but if Im gambling on who the week 1 starter is Im putting my money on Lance.
I saw a couple of places that SF will likely bring in a veteran QB, as they have no way of knowing what the health of Lance or Purdy will be moving forward, how their ongoing recovery will go, and how they will look by Opening Day. There could be three guys vying to start on Week 1. They have 7 players that account for $134M of their salary cap . . . they will have to rework some of the deals regardless of whether they find a third QB option.
With Lance it seems pretty well known. The 2nd surgery was to remove the metal plates.

He’s on track to start practicing in a little over 2 weeks. Should easily be 100% for OTAs, and camp.

Purdy is a total mystery. Elbows are less predictable. And while I’ve read he’s “opting against TJ”, that’s not really something that can be known until they get in there. It seems likely that with his young age & lack of wear that Tj won’t be needed - but there’s a chance there’s more damage than showed on the MRI.

And then there’s the rehab - it’s gonna be an interesting 6 months.

IMO a veteran will be brought in as a contingency for if Lance just can’t process his reads or show growth as a QB suited to the NFL level.

It seems like he’s got the inside track on starting out of the gate just based on where he is and where Purdy is. No doubt Purdy has earned the gig, but like @Kiddnets, if I had to place a bet, it would be on Lance starting game 1.
Who knows if what gets reported is remotely accurate, but I read at the time that Lance had a second surgery to deal with irritation and inflammation from the initial surgery. West Coasters may have more intel than I do, as I am 3,000 miles away. I only had a passing interest in Lance's recovery, as our son had the same injury and surgeries as Purdy did. Our son needed multiple surgeries before the one to remove the plates (but he's also not an NFL QB).
Yeah, that was the initial report. It turned out to be removing the plates, which were causing the irritation.

Pretty common, as it turns out.

 
I saw a couple of places that SF will likely bring in a veteran QB, as they have no way of knowing what the health of Lance or Purdy will be moving forward, how their ongoing recovery will go, and how they will look by Opening Day. There could be three guys vying to start on Week 1

Shanahan always has 3 QBs on the roster... Josh Johnson won't be one of them when camp starts.

From what I gather he still hasnt gotten the surgery unless I missed something

They're waiting for the swelling to be gone so it's the best/cleanest possible environment when they go in.
 
I saw a couple of places that SF will likely bring in a veteran QB, as they have no way of knowing what the health of Lance or Purdy will be moving forward, how their ongoing recovery will go, and how they will look by Opening Day. There could be three guys vying to start on Week 1

Shanahan always has 3 QBs on the roster... Josh Johnson won't be one of them when camp starts.

From what I gather he still hasnt gotten the surgery unless I missed something

They're waiting for the swelling to be gone so it's the best/cleanest possible environment when they go in.
Makes sense to wait on the swelling to go down but if the timeline is 6 months and they wait much longer that will really put him behind for camp to be 100% - and thats without any setbacks. Each day delayed is good for Lance owners lol
 

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Brock Purdy will undergo surgery to repair his torn UCL and is expected to make a "full recovery & be ready for training camp."​

Rapoport added Dr. Keith Meister of the Texas Rangers will perform the surgery a day after meeting with Purdy on February 21st. Previous reports on Purdy's recovery suggested he would be out for six months, making a return in time for training camp unlikely. It's possible Purdy doesn't need Tommy John surgery, shortening his rehab time, though it's equally likely Rapoport's source is giving an optimistic projection of Purdy's timeline. Either way, Trey Lance should be considered the favorite to start for the 49ers in Week 1. However, given Purdy's success, Lance will have a short leash once Purdy is ready to retake the field.
SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Feb 8, 2023, 3:04 PM ET
 
Per Matt Barrows:

Can confirm @RapSheet's report that Brock Purdy will have right elbow ligament repaired Feb. 22. The team has discussed a 6-month timeframe for Purdy to be full go, which would be just as the preseason is ending. Team/Purdy will have a better idea of timeframe after the surgery.
 
Per Matt Barrows:

Can confirm @RapSheet's report that Brock Purdy will have right elbow ligament repaired Feb. 22. The team has discussed a 6-month timeframe for Purdy to be full go, which would be just as the preseason is ending. Team/Purdy will have a better idea of timeframe after the surgery.
He's out for all the off season camps, mini camps, training camp and the entire preseason? Do I have that right?
I won't make any proclamations other than to say it does open up possibilities of a new QB showing up in camp and possibly seizing control.
 
Per Matt Barrows:

Can confirm @RapSheet's report that Brock Purdy will have right elbow ligament repaired Feb. 22. The team has discussed a 6-month timeframe for Purdy to be full go, which would be just as the preseason is ending. Team/Purdy will have a better idea of timeframe after the surgery.
He's out for all the off season camps, mini camps, training camp and the entire preseason? Do I have that right?
I won't make any proclamations other than to say it does open up possibilities of a new QB showing up in camp and possibly seizing control.
Looks that way.

They'll bring in a vet for depth, but Lance right now, and going into camp, is QB1. Huge opportunity for him to flat out take and hold the job.
 
Link

According to Jeff Mueller, who is a Doctor of Physical Therapy, the theory is Purdy starts his throwing program toward the middle or end of May to early June. Purdy will continue to progress from there.

Based on Mueller’s experience on these repairs, you can be full go by six months. From the date of surgery to Week 1 is six months and 19 days for Purdy.

The best-case scenario for Purdy as of now seems like he’d be ready at the end of the preseason. The 49ers and Purdy will no more or at least have a better idea of Purdy’s timeframe after the surgery.
 
Per Matt Barrows:

Can confirm @RapSheet's report that Brock Purdy will have right elbow ligament repaired Feb. 22. The team has discussed a 6-month timeframe for Purdy to be full go, which would be just as the preseason is ending. Team/Purdy will have a better idea of timeframe after the surgery.
He's out for all the off season camps, mini camps, training camp and the entire preseason? Do I have that right?
I won't make any proclamations other than to say it does open up possibilities of a new QB showing up in camp and possibly seizing control.
Looks that way.

They'll bring in a vet for depth, but Lance right now, and going into camp, is QB1. Huge opportunity for him to flat out take and hold the job.
The way you are painting it, doesn't sound like Lance has any competition going into Week 1
Wether he earns it or not
:oldunsure:
 
Per Matt Barrows:

Can confirm @RapSheet's report that Brock Purdy will have right elbow ligament repaired Feb. 22. The team has discussed a 6-month timeframe for Purdy to be full go, which would be just as the preseason is ending. Team/Purdy will have a better idea of timeframe after the surgery.
He's out for all the off season camps, mini camps, training camp and the entire preseason? Do I have that right?
I won't make any proclamations other than to say it does open up possibilities of a new QB showing up in camp and possibly seizing control.
Looks that way.

They'll bring in a vet for depth, but Lance right now, and going into camp, is QB1. Huge opportunity for him to flat out take and hold the job.
The way you are painting it, doesn't sound like Lance has any competition going into Week 1
Wether he earns it or not
:oldunsure:
Yep. He was QB1 last year before getting hurt, no reason to think they aren't gonna hand him the keys again. They drafted him to start, they're gonna give him the chance.

I can see them bringing in someone like a Bridgewater/Brissett/Darnold type for depth but Trey will get all the 1st team reps from the first camp thru preseason IMO.

Who knows what happens when Purdy is healthy/ready, but all signs point to Lance starting the season as QB1.
 

George Kittle said the 49ers starting quarterback job is Brock Purdy's to lose in 2023.​

During an interview at the Super Bowl, Kittle said Trey Lance has "not gotten a fair shot" after missing most of the 2022 season with a broken ankle. "Trey's got plenty of talent, he just needs to get out there and play," Kittle added. NBC Sports' Matt Maiocco said recently on the Rotoworld Football Show that Purdy's elbow injury would be healed in about six months, putting him on track to be available for the 2023 season opener. Purdy and Lance will likely compete for the team's starting gig with Jimmy Garoppolo headed elsewhere as a free agent. Kittle was highly productive with Purdy under center for the Niners, averaging 4.2 receptions and 79.6 receiving yards in Purdy's starts.
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SOURCE: Bleacher Report on Twitter
Feb 9, 2023, 2:54 PM ET
 

49ers' Brock Purdy details surgery decision, says surgeon may audible to more complex repair​



"In terms of the surgery, going down to Dallas for a surgeon named Keith Meister, well known, and he's the best at doing UCL repairs and surgeries and everything," Purdy said Thursday on KNBR's Papa & Lund show. "So I trust him. He does like 200-plus of these a year, so one of the best of the best. So in good hands."

While multiple MRI results finally clarified the confusing situation for the quarterback, there is a possible scenario where the surgeon is performing the procedure and decides that some additional work is necessary, impacting the quarterback's recovery time.

"Everyone's saying it would be the best for just my career moving forward to get the surgery and get the repair with an internal brace," Purdy explained. "Still, there could be some question as to getting a hybrid surgery, which is reconstruction with the internal brace.

"So we're going into it thinking the repair with the internal brace, for sure. All the surgeons have said that and that's what we're hoping for, and get a six-month recovery in and be ready to [training] camp."

Purdy confirmed that Meister could perform the expected procedure but call an audible based on what he sees, switching things up to add the reconstruction to the internal brace.

Yeah, that's Dr. Meister's call," Purdy shared. "He's done this year after year with the best of the best with MLB pitchers. So he's definitely seen this kind of thing happen, and he's going to make the best call, and not just for the heck of it. It's obviously for the best call for my career moving forward. And he knows what's best, and he's going to make the best decision for us, so it'll be good."

Why wait for the surgery, delaying his timeline for returning? That was out of Purdy's hands. The doctors wanted the process to go smoothly. That required waiting for much of the inflammation and fluid in the elbow to subside.

"That's what a lot of the surgeons said is the best way, the best option, so that's how we're rolling with it," Purdy said. "And yeah, they said I'll be able to start throwing and get onto a program after three months or so and then be ready come [training] camp."
 
49ers’ QB Brock Purdy earned 6 of the 50 first place votes for OROY.

He was in third place in total votes behind Garrett Wilson and Kenneth Walker.
 
Purdys surgery postponed due to ongoing swelling, it will now be some time in March at the earliest.


Here’s what you need to know:

  • Purdy was slated to undergo surgery on Feb. 22, The Athletic reported on Feb. 8.
  • Dr. Keith Meister, the team physician for the Texas Rangers, will perform Purdy’s surgery. Meister has an extensive background in performing elbow/UCL surgeries, which are much more common in baseball.
  • Meister recommended that Purdy wait to do the operation after seeing the QB on Tuesday, and they will meet again in early March, the team source confirmed.
 
Purdys surgery postponed due to ongoing swelling, it will now be some time in March at the earliest.


Here’s what you need to know:

  • Purdy was slated to undergo surgery on Feb. 22, The Athletic reported on Feb. 8.
  • Dr. Keith Meister, the team physician for the Texas Rangers, will perform Purdy’s surgery. Meister has an extensive background in performing elbow/UCL surgeries, which are much more common in baseball.
  • Meister recommended that Purdy wait to do the operation after seeing the QB on Tuesday, and they will meet again in early March, the team source confirmed.
So….september? 🤔
 
Interesting read. One of the first things I noticed about Purdy was his ability to process quickly, from pre snap reads to going through his progressions and making good decisions (especially for a 7th round rookie)

Was Brock Purdy’s emergence predictable? S2 Cognition test has pointed to NFL success

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If you watched Brock Purdy at last year’s NFL Scouting Combine, you would have seen a quarterback with below-average height, a merely adequate arm and foot speed that, while good, didn’t separate him from the pack.

The test he absolutely aced — and one that predicted his brilliant rookie season for the 49ers — was administered out of public view. Purdy landed in the mid 90s on something called the S2 Cognition test, a score you might consider Drew Brees-like. Which is to say, it’s elite.

The S2 isn’t an intelligence test like the 50-question Wonderlic exam but rather measures how quickly and accurately athletes process information. It’s like the 40-yard dash for the brain.

”The game will never be too fast for Brock, I’ll say that,” said Brandon Ally, a neuroscientist and cofounder of Nashville-based S2 Cognition. “I don’t think he’ll ever have trouble adjusting.”

The exam lasts 40 to 45 minutes. It’s performed on a specially designed gaming laptop and response pad that can record reactions in two milliseconds. To put that in perspective, an eye blink lasts 100 to 150 milliseconds.

In one section of the exam, a series of diamonds flash on the screen for 16 milliseconds each. Every diamond is missing a point, and the test taker must determine — using left, right, up or down keys — which part is missing.

In another, the test seeks to find out how many objects an athlete can keep track of at the same time. In another, there are 22 figures on the screen and the athlete must locate a specific one as quickly as possible. The object might be a red triangle embedded in other shapes that are also red.

“We’re talking about things they have to perceive on the screen within 16/1,000th of a second, which is essentially subliminal and which scientific literature says you shouldn’t be able to process,”

He couldn’t give out Purdy’s exact score because it’s privileged information but said it was in the “mid 90s.” That’s about where Brees, the former Saints quarterback famous for lightning-fast decision-making, scored and where two of the top passers in the league now, the Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes and the Bills’ Josh Allen, also landed . The Bengals’ Joe Burrow took the test while at LSU and agreed to allow S2 to disclose the information. Of course he did — he scored in the 97th percentile.

“We consider anything above the 80th percentile to be elite"

For decades the NFL used the Wonderlic to measure intelligence. The questions start out easy — What’s the eighth month of the year?, for example — and get progressively more difficult. Most people can’t finish the 12-minute exam. While a high Wonderlic score suggests a quarterback knows how to study and will remember the playbook, it doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll hold up well against a zero blitz.

Brees is a good example. He got a 28 on the Wonderlic, which is very good, but not superior. His S2 score, meanwhile, was exceptional. Ally said the cognition test not only can forecast whether a quarterback will be successful in the NFL, it comes close to predicting the quarterback’s career passer rating.

The company recently looked at 27 starting quarterbacks. (Some of the older veterans like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers had entered the league before S2 began testing in 2015 and there are no scores for them; Brees took the test while already playing in the NFL.) Of that group, 13 had a career passer rating above 90. The average S2 score of those players was the 91st percentile. Those with passer ratings below 90 had much lower test results. "Those 14 guys, the average score was in the low 60s,”

According to Ally, the 49ers quarterback did particularly well in three areas. One of them was spatial awareness, which translates in several aspects of the game, including how well a quarterback can assess a defense before the snap.

Another area in which Purdy excelled was distraction control.

“Those are the guys — and Drew Brees was one of those — who, the pocket, the world could be collapsing around them and they can just maintain that steely focus on what they’re supposed to be doing,” Ally said.

Finally, Purdy was especially impressive when it came to depth perception speed.

“He was in some pretty elite company,” Ally said. “I mean, he was in the high 90s on that.”

As for the 49ers’ other young quarterback, Trey Lance? Ally couldn’t reveal the exact number but said Lance scored well. "He’s not in the Brock Purdy range but he didn’t score poorly,” he said
 
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..S2 measures how quickly and accurately athletes process information... perceive within 16/1,000th of a second, essentially subliminal... 49ers quarterback did well in 3 areas... spatial awareness, --- can assess a defense before snap.... distraction control... depth perception speed.
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This was interesting. Maybe the league might eventually be able to get better at assessing QB's.

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Was Brock Purdy's success predictable? Top NFL QBs tend to score high on the S2 Cognition test that draft prospects take. Purdy aced his exam last year.
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The part that 'intrigue's' me the most is:
“We’re talking about things they have to perceive on the screen within 16/1,000th of a second, which is essentially subliminal and which scientific literature says you shouldn’t be able to process,”

I think THAT is the key takeaway.
I believe some scouts also have this ability of 'hyper-seeing' traits in prospects that are imperceptible to other talent evaluators.
I can't say for certain, but I believe that whoever discovered this test 'probably' has this trait themselves.
 

49ers GM John Lynch admitted there are a "variety of timeframes" for Brock Purdy's return from elbow surgery.​

"Either way, having Purdy back for training camp now seems too optimistic," was how reporter Matt Barrows interpreted Lynch's Tuesday comments. "A more realistic outcome ... (is) being fully recovered the first week of September, which corresponds to the start of the regular season." Purdy's surgeon said his injury is not a normal UCL tear. In baseball, the tendons typically give way because of repetitive use. Purdy's was the result of blunt force. We doubt that means anything good, though the 49ers are still hopeful Purdy can avoid Tommy John surgery, which comes with a year-plus recovery timeline.
SOURCE: The Athletic
Feb 28, 2023, 8:01 PM ET
 

The Athletic's Jeff Howe writes Brock Purdy is "expected" to have elbow surgery next week.​

The timeline remains up in the air, with the "belief" being that Purdy will need six months to recover. Until they're able to fully look at the extent of the damage under the knife, the 49ers won't know for sure. Trey Lance remains a fairly safe bet to see most of the 49ers offseason and training camp reps with the ones, and it would be tough for Purdy to mount a comeback from the sideline.
SOURCE: The Athletic
Mar 3, 2023, 2:16 PM ET
 
Real interesting situation unfolding here...would not be surprised if the Niners add in veteran...theit window is open right now and they need to have the QB position covered...the question (and no one knows the answer right now) is will it be someone who is backup insurance or someone who could compete with Lance and/or Purdy.
 

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