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Rapoport: Brock Purdy's recovery going as well as 49ers could've hoped​



Earlier this morning, NFL Network's Ian Rapoport clarified some details on his recovery while speaking on The Pat McAfee Show, sharing that he would be on track, should he begin throwing this week, as currently expected.

"Okay, so let's say he's throwing this week," Rapoport said on Pat McAfee Show. "First of all, that would be really good news because that would mean he's basically either on track or like a small bit ahead of schedule. That is all very good."

With the current timeline, Purdy would potentially be cleared around early September, right before Week 1, which is what the hope was when he entered surgery: around a six-month timeline for recovery.

"So what this means is he now has a three-month—based on the original timeframe—has a three-month time where he's got to start throwing and then get to a point where he is regularly throwing without issue," Rapoport said. "This should be right before the start of the season, probably early, early September, where he should be around 100 percent. This is all very good news."

With that timeline, Purdy could potentially even be out there during Week 1, or more likely shortly thereafter, due to Kyle Shanahan's remarks that he'd prefer for practice time prior to in-game action.

"So if that is the case, if he's throwing this week and hopefully he has no setbacks, if this continues to be the case, then you are looking at, realistically, he could maybe start Week 1," Rapoport said. "Or if not Week 1, pretty shortly thereafter. Like if it's late, late, late August or really early September when he's now finally 100 percent, you're looking at around the start of the season or maybe a little bit after. This is all good."

"And if someone like Sam Darnold or maybe be, I guess, Trey Lance, if one of those guys starts a week or two, that's also fine because the most important thing for the Niners is that someone who they believe to be a massive, massive part of their future is fully healthy with no issue," Rapoport shared. "But to answer your question, this is probably going about as well as they could have hoped after the surgery."
 
There is a long way to go and we will have to see but that is major surgery and they best be careful with it than to risk him being ready week one or week whenever. Just make sure he is 100% healthy before getting him out there and I would think they would want to get Trey Lance out there to show the league what he can or not do. if you have plans on trading Lance I would rather get him out there and get him some game time and reps to see what he can do and maybe showcase him some to the league.
 
Purdy describes 'night-and-day difference' from rookie season


Purdy is convinced he has made significant strides this offseason. He continues to make improvements in his understanding of the 49ers’ offense and his responsibilities. Purdy recalls the difficulties he faced a year ago.

“Last year, every single night, it's like [I’d] study and sort of stress out about I got to learn this concept and this one and go run it at OTAs, and try to prove myself to my teammates and coaches,” Purdy said.

“Obviously this year I'm not out in the field, but being able to when a play call comes in and I hear it and I can see it better mentally, and it just happens a little bit quicker,” he said.

“But there's still a lot of details and things that I can clean up with how I operate and see the defense. So that's what I'm working on right now. But I think it’s like a night-and-day difference coming in as a rookie
 
He didn't seem to have any special traits at all, and his accuracy was merely a little above average
He has an uncanny ability to extend plays and know where all of his receivers are when doing so.

There will be times this gets him in trouble, but that is unquestionably a special trait.

The best example might be on a play that Aiyuk dropped a TD. The moves he makes to get across that field and fire a dart to a spot where only Aiyuk could get it was downright Mahomsian.
 
He didn't seem to have any special traits at all, and his accuracy was merely a little above average
He has an uncanny ability to extend plays and know where all of his receivers are when doing so.

There will be times this gets him in trouble, but that is unquestionably a special trait.

The best example might be on a play that Aiyuk dropped a TD. The moves he makes to get across that field and fire a dart to a spot where only Aiyuk could get it was downright Mahomsian.
I don't know the play you're referring to. And as I said, I saw a limited portion of a limited rookie season. Even then, I saw a guy who is an NFL starting caliber QB, likely a bit above average even. From Mr irrelevant to that is huge. And he was a rookie, so it's absurd to assume he can't get better. My real take here is that clearly some saw more then that, and I didn't. My expectations TODAY is that he is a successful and capable QB, maybe even in the pro bowl conversation at times, but not the all pro conversation. That he won't regularly crack the top 10 list. But it's mostly gut based on limited observation, and could very well be wrong.
 
John Lynch made an appearance on Sirius XM NFL Radio Wednesday morning and shared some updates and thoughts about quarterback Brock Purdy, who had his first throwing session earlier this week for the first time since his surgery.

Lynch said that the 49ers are “incredibly encouraged” by Purdy having his throwing session already: “He’s hitting all his marks, and that doesn’t surprise us because he’s putting in all the work.”

Lynch spoke about rushing Purdy back: “We are not going to put Brock in a situation where he’s not fully healed. That means not just get back, but get back and get in reps under your belt."

 
Per Nick Wagoner:

As 49ers QB Brock Purdy begins throwing this week a few things to keep in mind:

- He is neither ahead nor behind schedule. The expected window to begin throwing program off of UCL repair is 10-12 weeks. He's right in range.

- Throwing program is a slow buildup.

- Usually it begins with throwing a half-weighted ball and building up to throws with prescribed number of balls at fixed effort and distance.

- Final stages include mimicking a game week by throwing roughly the same number of passes an NFL QB would during the regular season.

- And again, there's no fixed timeline on when a throwing athlete who has had UCL repair will be cleared. The first person who ever had it was an HS pitcher in Alabama who was cleared in 5 months, 3 days.

Depends on how throwing program goes and the necessary time window.

 

49ers GM John Lynch said the team is "incredibly encouraged" by Brock Purdy's recovery from elbow surgery.​

Lynch also referred to Purdy as the "leader in the clubhouse" once again. It's clear that Purdy has the inside track to the starting job once healthy. Both Lynch and Kyle Shanahan have talked glowingly about him when given the chance. Purdy resumed throwing this week and is expected back by training camp, though that could be an optimistic timeline for his return. He underwent surgery in March to repair the torn UCL he suffered in the NFC Championship game. If he is forced to sit for a few weeks during the season, San Francisco will be forced to go back to Trey Lance or give Sam Darnold a shot under center. Their camp battle will be one of the most important ones of the summer, even if it only decides a handful of starts.
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SOURCE: The Athletic
May 31, 2023, 4:56 PM ET
 
He's throwing footballs already, less than 3 months from surgery.




I'm calling it now, Purdy starts week 1 at Pittsburgh.
Probably. If he's healthy he's starting no matter how good Lance plays. The question is do they trade Lance is Purdy is healthy. Darnold is a back up qb.
Nope. 4 QBs wasn't enough last season, they're not getting rid of any QB any time soon.
 
He's throwing footballs already, less than 3 months from surgery.




I'm calling it now, Purdy starts week 1 at Pittsburgh.
Probably. If he's healthy he's starting no matter how good Lance plays. The question is do they trade Lance is Purdy is healthy. Darnold is a back up qb.
I think if they could recoup a first they would in a heartbeat, however nobody will be paying that for Lance at this point. They are better off keeping the cupboard full while the window is open for a championship.
 
Is Purdy really that good? I bet they would take Mac Jones if they could do it all over again and they still would be wrong. The answer for the 49ers should have been Justin Fields.
 
Is Purdy really that good? I bet they would take Mac Jones if they could do it all over again and they still would be wrong. The answer for the 49ers should have been Justin Fields.
In a 12 team, 1QB, keep 13 league. I only have Goff and Lance. The team with Purdy and I have been talking about a trade. I’m offering ZWhite (he has Jacobs) + 2.10 for Purdy. He wants a little more.

I’m fine just letting this trade die, especially when I re-looked at the stats and saw that, as good of a Real NFL QB Purdy was for that run, Goff actually put up better numbers. I told the other team I’ll just as happily take a rookie QB at 2.10 and cross my fingers than pay more for Purdy.
 
Is Purdy really that good?
He may not be all that good, but he’s damn good for what the 49ers want to do and I’m sure that’s all team brass cares about.
I guess. The Niners seem to get a pass at this point because the last pick of the draft has saved them to this point. The trainwreck of drafting Lance and the resources used to make that move seem like a dirty secret that could rise back up. Trey Lance has not even really played enough football since high school to know if he is a franchise quarterback or not. Do the Niners know something we do not? And if you are another team would you wonder that? How do we know Lance is not better than Purdy or how do we or they know Purdy is better than Lance? I'm no doctor but it feels like Purdy is an amazing healer. During the end of the season, there was talk of Purdy missing all of 2023. Now he may start week one?
 
Is Purdy really that good?
He may not be all that good, but he’s damn good for what the 49ers want to do and I’m sure that’s all team brass cares about.
I guess. The Niners seem to get a pass at this point because the last pick of the draft has saved them to this point. The trainwreck of drafting Lance and the resources used to make that move seem like a dirty secret that could rise back up. Trey Lance has not even really played enough football since high school to know if he is a franchise quarterback or not. Do the Niners know something we do not? And if you are another team would you wonder that? How do we know Lance is not better than Purdy or how do we or they know Purdy is better than Lance? I'm no doctor but it feels like Purdy is an amazing healer. During the end of the season, there was talk of Purdy missing all of 2023. Now he may start week one?
We've probably discussed this whole Purdy/Lance thing to death, but there may have been (and still are) things going behind the scenes that we don't know about. Lance never seemed to be a good fit for an offense that is predicated on just getting the ball into their many playmakers and letting them generate YAC. Maybe they thought Lance could do that, with the added wrinkle of insane athleticism that would totally baffle defenses.

At the end of the day, only team brass knows the real deal, and they just could have whiffed on Lance. Or maybe he could have been that guy but injuries derailed his growth, and they need to focus on their potential championship window first and foremost.
 
Is Purdy really that good?
He may not be all that good, but he’s damn good for what the 49ers want to do and I’m sure that’s all team brass cares about.
I guess. The Niners seem to get a pass at this point because the last pick of the draft has saved them to this point. The trainwreck of drafting Lance and the resources used to make that move seem like a dirty secret that could rise back up. Trey Lance has not even really played enough football since high school to know if he is a franchise quarterback or not. Do the Niners know something we do not? And if you are another team would you wonder that? How do we know Lance is not better than Purdy or how do we or they know Purdy is better than Lance? I'm no doctor but it feels like Purdy is an amazing healer. During the end of the season, there was talk of Purdy missing all of 2023. Now he may start week one?
We've probably discussed this whole Purdy/Lance thing to death, but there may have been (and still are) things going behind the scenes that we don't know about. Lance never seemed to be a good fit for an offense that is predicated on just getting the ball into their many playmakers and letting them generate YAC. Maybe they thought Lance could do that, with the added wrinkle of insane athleticism that would totally baffle defenses.

At the end of the day, only team brass knows the real deal, and they just could have whiffed on Lance. Or maybe he could have been that guy but injuries derailed his growth, and they need to focus on their potential championship window first and foremost.
I can agree with this. I think they also were wooed by the person Lance is. He is smart from what I read but the field translation might not be there the question remains because of the injuries. I would love to see Lance get a chance in San Fran or elsewhere. If Purdy makes it on the field in week one that would be kind of amazing all things considered. If he is going to be the franchise QB better to wait and make sure he is 100% before making any further moves and also not risk Purdy if he is not ready.
 
Is Purdy really that good?
He may not be all that good, but he’s damn good for what the 49ers want to do and I’m sure that’s all team brass cares about.
I guess. The Niners seem to get a pass at this point because the last pick of the draft has saved them to this point. The trainwreck of drafting Lance and the resources used to make that move seem like a dirty secret that could rise back up. Trey Lance has not even really played enough football since high school to know if he is a franchise quarterback or not. Do the Niners know something we do not? And if you are another team would you wonder that? How do we know Lance is not better than Purdy or how do we or they know Purdy is better than Lance? I'm no doctor but it feels like Purdy is an amazing healer. During the end of the season, there was talk of Purdy missing all of 2023. Now he may start week one?
We've probably discussed this whole Purdy/Lance thing to death, but there may have been (and still are) things going behind the scenes that we don't know about. Lance never seemed to be a good fit for an offense that is predicated on just getting the ball into their many playmakers and letting them generate YAC. Maybe they thought Lance could do that, with the added wrinkle of insane athleticism that would totally baffle defenses.

At the end of the day, only team brass knows the real deal, and they just could have whiffed on Lance. Or maybe he could have been that guy but injuries derailed his growth, and they need to focus on their potential championship window first and foremost.
I can agree with this. I think they also were wooed by the person Lance is. He is smart from what I read but the field translation might not be there the question remains because of the injuries. I would love to see Lance get a chance in San Fran or elsewhere. If Purdy makes it on the field in week one that would be kind of amazing all things considered. If he is going to be the franchise QB better to wait and make sure he is 100% before making any further moves and also not risk Purdy if he is not ready.
Sadly my guess is that Lance is just an NFL version of James Wiseman.

I’ve basically given up on Lance and while I haven’t traded him away yet, I acquired Purdy in the off-season (for cheap, right after his surgery). Turned down a Lance offer around the same time — kicking myself for not dealing him.
 
I'm no doctor but it feels like Purdy is an amazing healer. During the end of the season, there was talk of Purdy missing all of 2023. Now he may start week one?

Only idiots and wishful thinkers were saying that. Once we knew he would get a repair instead of a reconstruction, there was never any doubt he would play in 2023 and probably pretty early in the season. He's healing like most others who had the same surgery.
 
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Breer: 49ers QB Brock Purdy throwing without pain, on track to be ready by Week 1​



In a feature for Sports Illustrated, Albert Breer recently offered an update on how Purdy has looked thus far, and the news is very encouraging.

"The 49ers' expected starting quarterback should, well, continue to be expected to start for the team," Breer wrote. "He's on a very controlled throwing program now, and this week's minicamp in Santa Clara should provide more answers. As it stands? Purdy is throwing without pain, and he's passed every test the Niners have thrown at him."

"The plan going forward is to gradually increase the velocity and distance on his throws," Breer continued. "But at this point, I'm told he's come through the rehab process and is now building strength back in his arm, on a track that'd have him ready to go for Week 1."
 
"49ers QB Brock Purdy is headed to Jacksonville today to throw the next couple weeks with QB coach Will Hewlett and ortho specialist Tom Gormely — another sign Purdy is progressing through his rehab following elbow surgery and remains on track to be ready for the 2023 season."

Tom Pelissero

 
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I am not going to read through all these, but am I the only one who thinks this guy comes crashing back down to earth this year?
 
I am not going to read through all these, but am I the only one who thinks this guy comes crashing back down to earth this year?
I think it’s a good bet he stays as effective as he was last season.

It’s not that I think he’s an elite quarterback, but his skill set is literally perfect for this offense. And they are just too loaded overall for him to faceplant imo.
 
From a fantasy pov…

in a league where I just roster Lance and Goff, I was considering sending a 2023 mid/late 2nd to the Purdy owner to try to improve my starting QB position (12 team, 1QB, Keep only 13, I hold 2.3/2.8/2.10/2.11).

Then I looked at Purdy’s stats over his great regular season winning streak, and saw that he averaged less ppg than Goff did in that same stretch. I was surprised, honestly.

So I didnt make the offer and will just keep Goff and pick whichever of the top 3 rookie QBs are there in the 2nd round this year, hoping for better fantasy stats over Purdy’s real NFL QB value.
 
It’s not an exact comp but I get a lot of Kirk Cousins vibes with Purdy. So far he appears to be more clutch but doesn’t have the yardage upside in that offense that Kirk does. Maybe he can make it up on TDs.

Either way, he looks like a legit starter to me. Not ready to call him a franchise QB yet but its trending for him to be the starter while he’s on cheap rookie deal the next three seasons. As long as he comes back from the elbow nicely its his job to lose. Niners aren’t going to want to make another big draft investment. Ironically the backup plan if he falls on his face this year might just be Cousins himself.
 
Al Sacco:

QB Brock Purdy needs two TD passes & a win in his first start of 2023 to become the first QB ever to do that in first six regular season starts.

Can also become first ever with a QB rating of 95-plus in first six starts.


Keep doubting, haters.
 
Al Sacco:

QB Brock Purdy needs two TD passes & a win in his first start of 2023 to become the first QB ever to do that in first six regular season starts.

Can also become first ever with a QB rating of 95-plus in first six starts.


Keep doubting, haters.

For me it’s not doubting that he can be a very good REAL NFL QB. It’s just that he was sub-Goff in Fantasy PPG over his amazing run.
 
Al Sacco:

QB Brock Purdy needs two TD passes & a win in his first start of 2023 to become the first QB ever to do that in first six regular season starts.

Can also become first ever with a QB rating of 95-plus in first six starts.


Keep doubting, haters.

For me it’s not doubting that he can be a very good REAL NFL QB. It’s just that he was sub-Goff in Fantasy PPG over his amazing run.

What's the issue with Goff being a better FF QB than Purdy? Goff is underrated and a pretty good QB, he was tied for 4th with 29 TD passes in 2022. I doubt Purdy is expected to throw 30+ TDs, although I wouldn't be surprised if he does.
 
Al Sacco:

QB Brock Purdy needs two TD passes & a win in his first start of 2023 to become the first QB ever to do that in first six regular season starts.

Can also become first ever with a QB rating of 95-plus in first six starts.


Keep doubting, haters.

For me it’s not doubting that he can be a very good REAL NFL QB. It’s just that he was sub-Goff in Fantasy PPG over his amazing run.
But I mean to already be at that level as a 22 year-old rookie though? Further, a rookie that no one expected anything at all from? Goff has been a multi-year 4000+ yard passer. I understand we’re talking about fantasy here, but one has to assume Purdy will improve with more starts.
 
I am not going to read through all these, but am I the only one who thinks this guy comes crashing back down to earth this year?
Maybe. The situation seems too good to "crash". Regression should be expected, and the leash won't be long, given Lance/Darnold.

I like Purdy and his story. But many have anointed him as some lock. Not me. I need to see another half-season of Purdy '22 before I'm ready to concede he's "the guy" long-term.
 
Al Sacco:

QB Brock Purdy needs two TD passes & a win in his first start of 2023 to become the first QB ever to do that in first six regular season starts.

Can also become first ever with a QB rating of 95-plus in first six starts.


Keep doubting, haters.
So how much of his success would you say is attributed to the offensive system run by Shanny? Because that is certainly a big factor. Defensive coordinators have had a offseason to study his weaknesses and there are some great ones out there. Is the 49ers offensive scheme so good that you could plug in a Tannihill or Mac Jones and it would mKe them look good? 🤔
 
Al Sacco:

QB Brock Purdy needs two TD passes & a win in his first start of 2023 to become the first QB ever to do that in first six regular season starts.

Can also become first ever with a QB rating of 95-plus in first six starts.


Keep doubting, haters.
So how much of his success would you say is attributed to the offensive system run by Shanny? Because that is certainly a big factor. Defensive coordinators have had a offseason to study his weaknesses and there are some great ones out there. Is the 49ers offensive scheme so good that you could plug in a Tannihill or Mac Jones and it would mKe them look good? 🤔

The system definitely helps. But I watched every snap of every game last season, and Ill say this: Purdy has a grasp on Shanahans system better than any QB that hes had in SF. He knows where every player is supposed to be on every play, he processes quickly, makes (mostly) good decisions (especially for a rookie) and he doesnt get rattled. DC's can watch all the film on him they want, but a QB that takes a 3 or 4 step drop and delivers the ball to whichever open guy he wants/sees (and there are usually multiple guys open almost every play by design) isnt gonna get shut down. They can probably limit his off schedule stuff a bit, but those plays arent a big percentage of plays overall. Also, having CMC helps sell the run, and gives Purdy the best security blanket a QB could have.

As for your question about Tannehill or Jones, I have no idea because I dont watch them or have any idea what their football IQ is. Shanny likes Purdy because he runs the offense exactly how he wants him to, and they seem to be on the same page. I dont know if those other QBs would have the same relationship/trust that Shanny and Purdy have, or if they would understand the system as well as Purdy does,
 
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Al Sacco:

QB Brock Purdy needs two TD passes & a win in his first start of 2023 to become the first QB ever to do that in first six regular season starts.

Can also become first ever with a QB rating of 95-plus in first six starts.


Keep doubting, haters.

For me it’s not doubting that he can be a very good REAL NFL QB. It’s just that he was sub-Goff in Fantasy PPG over his amazing run.

What's the issue with Goff being a better FF QB than Purdy? Goff is underrated and a pretty good QB, he was tied for 4th with 29 TD passes in 2022. I doubt Purdy is expected to throw 30+ TDs, although I wouldn't be surprised if he does.

It’s was just surprising to me since I think Goff is pretty well established as an ok QB2 for fantasy. Heck, Goff’s not even rostered in our 12 team, FFPC, SharkPool league (but Purdy is rostered, to be fair).

The biggest surprise for me is that, during his great winning streak, I saw replays of him looking so good, making great plays, and throwing TDs, yet it didn’t translate into the fantasy points, I guess the way I was expecting it to.
Sure he can get better (from a fantasy pov), but I’m not spending any real capital at all to trade for him in my shallow 12 team dynasty leagues.
 
Al Sacco:

QB Brock Purdy needs two TD passes & a win in his first start of 2023 to become the first QB ever to do that in first six regular season starts.

Can also become first ever with a QB rating of 95-plus in first six starts.


Keep doubting, haters.
So how much of his success would you say is attributed to the offensive system run by Shanny? Because that is certainly a big factor. Defensive coordinators have had a offseason to study his weaknesses and there are some great ones out there. Is the 49ers offensive scheme so good that you could plug in a Tannihill or Mac Jones and it would mKe them look good? 🤔

The system definitely helps. But I watched every snap of every game last season, and Ill say this: Purdy has a grasp on Shanahans system better than any QB that hes had in SF. He knows where every player is supposed to be on every play, he processes quickly, makes (mostly) good decisions (especially for a rookie) and he doesnt get rattled. DC's can watch all the film on him they want, but a QB that takes a 3 or 4 step drop and delivers the ball to whichever open guy he wants/sees (and there are usually multiple guys open almost every play by design) isnt gonna shut him down. They can probably limit his off schedule stuff a bit, but those plays arent a big percentage of plays overall. Also, having CMC helps sell the run, and gives Purdy the best security blanket a QB could have.

As for your question about Tannehill or Jones, I have no idea because I dont watch them or have any idea what their football IQ is. Shanny likes Purdy because he runs the offense exactly how he wants him to, and they seem to be on the same page. I dont know if those other QBs would have the same relationship/trust that Shanny and Purdy have, or if they would understand the system as well as Purdy does,
Appreciate the fact that you watched him play every game and the info. He certainly gained the confidence of the locker room.
 
Al Sacco:

QB Brock Purdy needs two TD passes & a win in his first start of 2023 to become the first QB ever to do that in first six regular season starts.

Can also become first ever with a QB rating of 95-plus in first six starts.


Keep doubting, haters.
It's also 5 games defenses get to study. Don't forget that. New pitchers often do well through the 1st rotation.

I'm not saying he is going to fail. Just that some on here have pretty lofty expectations. Seems like some what to name him the next Montana.
 
He already addressed the concern of DCs having film on him, it’s not baseball, and there’s not a person on the planet calling him the next Montana.

I’m not sure he’ll ever have more than replacement value in 1QB leagues, but he’s underrated in Superflex it seems. San Fran is a good enough team that they will rarely have to abandon a game plan and make him sling it 50+ times in catch up mode. He’s such a good fit for what Kyle wants to do offensively and surrounded by awesome weapons that really keeps a lid on his stats and he’s not going to add anything in the rushing department. Most games he’s going to be around 25-30 attempts and will need 3 TDs to payoff a fantasy start.

That could well change in the future as their roster evolves and he grows but for now he looks to be a well composed, caretaker+ who can make some off script plays here and there, but most importantly can win a lot of football games. He’s going to be getting tons of discussion on TV this year as the season goes along. We should get used to having him in our lives because at that paltry salary, it’s his job to lose.
 
The 49ers will integrate Brock Purdy's throwing program — the QB hasn't thrown three days in a row yet since his surgery — into training camp. So Purdy actually won't practice on Wednesday when SF first takes the field as part of this throwing schedule, but he'll be QB1 Thursday.

- Lombardi per Twitter/X
 
Brock Purdy says he has no leftover physical limitations following his elbow surgery and also said "There's obviously some rust that I have to work off"
 

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