Desert_Power
Footballguy
I don't think the Panthers have any intention of cutting or trading Bryce. However, it does seem clear that Adam Schefter and his ilk are trying to spread that story. Shameless mouthpieces of agents 
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QB Bryce Young, CAR (1 Viewer)
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
Once you quit on a guy 2 games into his second season there's no going back. I don't think what Andy Dalton does or doesn't do will matter to anyone evaluating Bryce Young for a potential trade. What did Zach Wilson go for? Bryce has looked much worse.
Max Power
Footballguy
Maybe it will be good for him to watch a couple games. When Fields was hurt last year and Bagent started for a month, JF got to see how another QB ran the same offense. He definitely learned from the experience and took away a couple things from it. JF down the stretch last year was much better than before injury.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Agreed. Would be surprised if they traded Bryce. Let's see how he handles this benching.I don't think the Panthers have any intention of cutting or trading Bryce. However, it does seem clear that Adam Schefter and his ilk are trying to spread that story. Shameless mouthpieces of agents
Fields was leading the NFL in TD passes through week 5 last year with 11 TDs (12 total with 1 rushing TD) before he got injured in week 6
Donnybrook
Footballguy
When you only have 2 QBs on the active roster, there is a good chance he plays again this year even due to injury.
The only thing I can think of is this is Dave Canales chance to prove that his system works with a competent QB.
Max Power
Footballguy
He was also 1-5 with 6 INT, 2 fumbles and 24 sacks pre-injury. Finished the year 4-3, 3 INTs, 2 fumbles and 20 sacks. His play was noticeably better.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Putting Mel Kiper's rant about Bryce Young here; https://x.com/i/status/1836073625633313022
It took me a long time to learn that team scrimmages mean more than pre-season games when evaluating players. You can't take much away from pre-season games anymore because so few starters play. I am surprised that Mel Kiper doesn't know that.
It took me a long time to learn that team scrimmages mean more than pre-season games when evaluating players. You can't take much away from pre-season games anymore because so few starters play. I am surprised that Mel Kiper doesn't know that.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Baker didn't fail in Cleveland. The Browns fell for someone shinier and it was a generationally catastrophic decision for the franchise.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Probably not. That would mean ignoring most of what’s wrong with him. A backup such as Dalton could have done that.
zamboni
Footballguy
I think that was just a function of peppering a veteran savvy guy with a ton of targets. Diontae is also a savvy veteran, but something happened to Bryce's confidence/ability to deliver the ball.
Todem
Footballguy
I have zero doubt he can play QB.....but not in the NFL.
He was a fantastic college QB.
I always root for the guys who are too small, too slow etc......but this physicality issue is far too big to overcome for Bryce Young. His arm is average to being with. Now in this league it looks like a noodle. He did not even get stronger after a full off-season. This kid is simply too tiny.
Kyler Murray has the god's gift of a golden arm. Bryce Young does not.
Kyler Murray looks like a strong strong kid....Bryce Young does not. Just using my eyes. And they never lie to me. I compare Kyler to him because on a good day Kyler is 5'10...in cleats.
But he runs the like the wind and can throw a ball like a laser or with touch....his arm is golden.
Bryce has a huge mountain to climb and the NFL does not wait around. Carolina is done with him. They will draft another QB in 2025...it's a guarantee. Cut your losses....move on. Much like the Cardinals did with Rosen.
Todem
Footballguy
It's hard to throw when you can't see downfield....because 6'4-6'7 lineman block your view of the field. Also the speed of the pro game is overwhelming him.
He had a great attitude and a stellar practice today. Several quotes including a bit from Theilen.
Good!
Now where was that the other days?
Are you giving that same effort in the film room?
I don't think anyone can get past that he's looked confused.
The Titans D confused Rodgers on a single play and I said I don't think I've ever seen that with Rodgers. Young buck can not make me sitting on the couch know he's confused.
Good!
Now where was that the other days?
Are you giving that same effort in the film room?
I don't think anyone can get past that he's looked confused.
The Titans D confused Rodgers on a single play and I said I don't think I've ever seen that with Rodgers. Young buck can not make me sitting on the couch know he's confused.
Maybe but by many accounts he rocked today and has had super days each summer in camp so maybe not too. It's definitely a discussion the Panthers have to have. Why does this work and not that? Why is he successful then and not now? Etc
dipandglide
Footballguy
Everyone loves a good comeback story. I hope Young can pull it off and shut up the haters
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yes, if he can start building up his legs for better jumping over the OL to see his targets I think he can have a comeback and shut up the haters.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Is it legal for o-linemen to wear cameras on front linked to displays on back to make them effectively transparent for the QB? If not, that seems very heightist of the NFL ... super not woke ... time to cancel.
Yeah or he can wear shoes that are 3 inches higher.. Maybe some of those "High Heel Cleets"
massraider
Footballguy
Merge with Mac Jones thread?
Big Nate
Footballguy
Ok, real deal here - for those dynasty owners what are you doing with Young? I know the options are very limited - sell for peanuts to a QB desperate team that might take him on as a flyer or hold and hope he gets another shot in a year or 2.
He may even get another shot later this year but he definitely needs some time sitting. I don't think he is as bad as he has looked this year but there is definitely concerns if he doesn't start to look better and play better.
I'm really torn as a contender in my one league as to get anything I can or just hold in hopes he gets another shot later. Throw him in as a pot sweetner in a deal is probably the only real option here. Man this is rough.
He may even get another shot later this year but he definitely needs some time sitting. I don't think he is as bad as he has looked this year but there is definitely concerns if he doesn't start to look better and play better.
I'm really torn as a contender in my one league as to get anything I can or just hold in hopes he gets another shot later. Throw him in as a pot sweetner in a deal is probably the only real option here. Man this is rough.
eighsse2
Footballguy
I offered him along with my 2025 3rd (assumed late?) for a 2025 2nd. I made that offer to basically everyone but the top few teams: 4 rejected, the others didn't respond.
If I could get a projected early 3rd right here right now .... maybe ..... In our league 3rds are just not really worth anything though. Comically it would feel better dropping him than thinking about what I'm going to do with that stupid 3rd rounder.
Ive put him on the Taxi squad and forgot about him. I’m not selling him for a random 2nd or whatever best case scenario is I can get for him at this point. It’s definitely concerning because he looks just as bad as he did last year, but I have to be believe he’s better than this. He’s not as good as I thought he would be(not hardly) but I just refuse to believe he’s this bad. So I’ll just hold, and either pray he gets traded, or looks a lot better the next time he’s on the field for Carolina. Hopefully the former.
dipandglide
Footballguy
I'd rather hold than accept a 3rd in Superflex. He's been bad, but there's little upside to selling now unless you can get a 2nd+
rockaction
Footballguy
It's over and if I were playing dynasty football I'd hold until the end of the year and hope things get better, so I could maybe flip him for a second if I found a swooning and simpering suitor. Because that's what it will take. Swooning and simpering and maybe a second if the GM of said dynasty squad is lucky.
joey
Footballguy
I roster him only in 1 superflex league and I might as well just hold.
I’m not putting out offers but if something interesting comes in I’ll listen but, I mean, everyone is gonna lowball at this point.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Getting a 2nd for Young is like you or me going to the moon.
rockaction
Footballguy
That's sort of what I'm getting at here with the swooning, simpering second from the drooling fantasy owner.
That is a touch more likely than the moon, but I think more accurate.
massraider
Footballguy
He makes sense for a rebuilding dynasty owner, someone with a bunch of roster spots. Otherwise, nah.
Ignore the clickbait about trading him. Maybe Carolina gets Brooks later in the year, gets a running game going. He may come back and play well. He's young, maybe he DID need a year on the bench. If you believed in him coming out of college, I don't understand just assuming he has no chance of success.
Ignore the clickbait about trading him. Maybe Carolina gets Brooks later in the year, gets a running game going. He may come back and play well. He's young, maybe he DID need a year on the bench. If you believed in him coming out of college, I don't understand just assuming he has no chance of success.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Those "Insiders" connected to agents really seem to want this, but I highly doubt the Panthers want to do it.
massraider
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Several teams have expressed an interest in trading for quarterback Bryce Young, despite the fact coach Dave Canales said the Carolina Panthers do not intend to trade the former No. 1 overall pick, league sources told ESPN.
Schefter
Schefter
-OZ-
Footballguy
I don’t think Bryce gets dealt during the year. But when (if) the panthers get the top pick, they should take Beck or Ewers and trade Bryce. If the browns could make the numbers work, he might be the guy to take the stink out of the Watson debacle.
Chase Daniel put out the idea of the Rams trading Stafford to Miami and for Bryce. I think that’s unlikely but is there any chance Stafford retires after the season?
Chase Daniel put out the idea of the Rams trading Stafford to Miami and for Bryce. I think that’s unlikely but is there any chance Stafford retires after the season?
Personally wouldn't trade anything of value for him right now in dynasty. Panthers benching him at this point when the team is not really going anywhere speaks volumes. He will prob get dealt in the offseason for like 5th round pick similar to Lance. Yes there are reclamation projects like Baker and now Darnold so anything is possible, but those guys had showed a lot more at this point.
Banned laughing emoji here."Since the Vietnam War", come on. That's just cherry picking!x.com
x.com
Yeah....I think they just need to suck with Dalton and then some of the stink gets spread around and Bryce gets another shot.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Bingo. Losing the locker room is something they don't want to do.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Cut your losses and admit when you made a mistake.
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
I was never a fan of Bryce’s but the whole Panthers organization is a mistake right now. He’s had 3 HCs in 18 games and their record since moving on from Ron Rivera is a combined 19-52.
