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QB Case Keenum, HOU (1 Viewer)
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Bob Barker
Footballguy
Tried to play him on my 1-5 dynasty team over J. Cutler. League accused me of tanking for top pick and made me switch back
Faust
MVP
FUBAR
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Dismattle
Footballguy
Cutler is probably close to a top five playToday. I believe you attempted to break the rule of "start your Studs"
But I would consider discussing a play-off for the bottom teams to help determine draft-order ie. Top six teams draft last based on how they win/lose Bottom six draft first based on how they win/lose ex. 1-5 means drafting second or worse if the 2-4 team beats you during play-offs etc.
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GregR
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Coach3K
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I'd tell them that if they want to play your team, they can take it over for the rest of the year if they want to play YOUR team so bad and quit.
There are very few excuses for veto'ing trades. There are even fewer excuses for forcing someone to make lineup changes.
The start of this one looks good for you - hopefully you'll be able to shove this in their ##### faces at the end of the week and tell them to mind their own business.
Just my honest opinion.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
It doesn't matter that Cutler was injured, there was no way to know that would happen.A 1-5 team starting Keenum vs. the KC DEF, and benching Cutler vs. the WAS DEF, is clearly trying to tank.I'd tell them that if they want to play your team, they can take it over for the rest of the year if they want to play YOUR team so bad and quit.There are very few excuses for veto'ing trades. There are even fewer excuses for forcing someone to make lineup changes.
The start of this one looks good for you - hopefully you'll be able to shove this in their ##### faces at the end of the week and tell them to mind their own business.
Just my honest opinion.
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towney
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Nugget
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
He should get another start win or lose, after the way he played. I did stash him in dynasty, I also grabbed Foles and started him. Moral of the story, one game doesn't mean crap.
FUBAR
Footballguy
No reason to IMO. I want to see what he does against an average defense that has game take of him.
jsharlan
Footballguy
He played well in the worst of conditions. He deserves to continue his audition. With the Colts winning against Denver, Houston's season is effectively over, its time to evaluate guys like Keenum. Besides if Kubiak trots out Schaub after Keenum showed well, the fans are going to burn his house down.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I only watched a little of the game but my concern is that he did a lot of scrambling around and held onto the ball a very long time to make some plays. Is this something teams will see on film and make plays on him? A couple of the plays it almost seemed like the Chiefs relaxed a little because they thought he was going to throw the ball away and he didn't.
Houston turmOiler
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I dont think the team would respond well to Schaub being reinserted either but who knows....Kubiak shoulda started this kid at home a week earlier against the Rams in a better environment but i thought he held his own....doesnt help having the Fat Predator Derek Newton playing RT
FUBAR
Footballguy
I got a first, but only because it's a 32 team salary cap league and his salary is $1. I was lucky enough to pick him up two weeks ago based solely on an article stating the team needed to give him a chance.
Wouldn't have dealt him, but with Peyton, I wouldn't start him ever. I don't plan on giving up Peyton until he retires.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Yeah and if he sucks it up we get closer to a high draft pick rookie QB
Major
Footballguy
We all know Aggies aren't the sharpest tools in the shed but damn, Kubiak needs to take his head out of Schaub's rectum and see the light.
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NeverEnough
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Schaub is the better QB of the 2 IMO.
probably but kubiak is sort of forced to start Keenum again. It would take a good amount of kahunas to go with Schaub at this point.
Major
Footballguy
wormburner
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FUBAR
Footballguy
He's clearly lost something this year. Fully expect to see him start somewhere again but that may not be Houston. I'd like to see him in Tampa or Arizona.
duaneok66
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Casting Couch
Footballguy
Very impressed with Keenum, especially considering it was his first career start. Stash him on your roster in 12-14 team leagues.
He makes smart decisions and has acute field awareness. Schaub's days as a starting QB in Houston may be over, imo.
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Bob Barker
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They ended up making me start Cutler and I lost because of it. Keemun would have got me a 2 point win. Its all good though as Im the front runner for the top rookie pick next year. and to be honest if I was 5-1 instead of 1-5 I would have started Cutler as i would have thought it would be too risky to start Keenum. But I still dont think the league should have made me switch, its not like Cutler was winning me any weeks, just trying to switch stuff up. They were both starting QBs and anything can happen. Houston was a big underdog so Keenum had a good chance for garbage time points and he is also a decent runner which adds a lot of points in my league. It would be different if I started a backup RB like Turbin over a guy like L. McCoy, but Keenum was a starting QB trying to prove himself with his 1st start in the NFL, so in my opinion he had a decent chance of doing well for fantasy.It doesn't matter that Cutler was injured, there was no way to know that would happen.A 1-5 team starting Keenum vs. the KC DEF, and benching Cutler vs. the WAS DEF, is clearly trying to tank.I'd tell them that if they want to play your team, they can take it over for the rest of the year if they want to play YOUR team so bad and quit.There are very few excuses for veto'ing trades. There are even fewer excuses for forcing someone to make lineup changes.
The start of this one looks good for you - hopefully you'll be able to shove this in their ##### faces at the end of the week and tell them to mind their own business.
Just my honest opinion.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Honestly, if you're making decisions based on record (as opposed to how you think your team will do this week -sometimes a desperation move makes sense), you create the appearance of tanking despite how it works out.They ended up making me start Cutler and I lost because of it. Keemun would have got me a 2 point win. Its all good though as Im the front runner for the top rookie pick next year. and to be honest if I was 5-1 instead of 1-5 I would have started Cutler as i would have thought it would be too risky to start Keenum. But I still dont think the league should have made me switch, its not like Cutler was winning me any weeks, just trying to switch stuff up. They were both starting QBs and anything can happen. Houston was a big underdog so Keenum had a good chance for garbage time points and he is also a decent runner which adds a lot of points in my league. It would be different if I started a backup RB like Turbin over a guy like L. McCoy, but Keenum was a starting QB trying to prove himself with his 1st start in the NFL, so in my opinion he had a decent chance of doing well for fantasy.It doesn't matter that Cutler was injured, there was no way to know that would happen.A 1-5 team starting Keenum vs. the KC DEF, and benching Cutler vs. the WAS DEF, is clearly trying to tank.I'd tell them that if they want to play your team, they can take it over for the rest of the year if they want to play YOUR team so bad and quit.There are very few excuses for veto'ing trades. There are even fewer excuses for forcing someone to make lineup changes.
The start of this one looks good for you - hopefully you'll be able to shove this in their ##### faces at the end of the week and tell them to mind their own business.
Just my honest opinion.
Rove!
Footballguy
oh bull####
he was swinging for the fences due his 1-5 record
he should rub that league's nose in it.
the league intervened, changed the outcome of the game, and now their season is tainted,
He wasn't "swinging for the fences". He admittedly thought Cutler was the better play. This isn't real football. He wasn't going to play keenum to "spark" his team.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Unless your league rules prohibit tanking it is crappy that they changed your lineup and justice was served when you lost because they forced you to start Cutler. Your job is to make your team as good as possible, once you realize you can't win it is time to build for next year. That is what you were doing by putting in a legal lineup that would probably lose, and in return you receive a higher draft pick to trade or draft a player to help your team next year.
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Cunk
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I agree. And I'm wondering what kind of ramifications this will have to the rest of the league in the end considering the team he was playing has a W when they should have had an L.
I take it for granted they have the no-tank rule, based on the tone of OP. I support no-tank rules, else the league becomes a farce around midseason.
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