this was a case of constructive dismissal.
they wanted to embarrass him so that he would quit and so they wouldnt have to fire him. kind of a jerk move if you ask me. but thats kind of what I've come to expect from this mickey mouse organization.
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they wanted to embarrass him so that he would quit and so they wouldnt have to fire him. kind of a jerk move if you ask me. but thats kind of what I've come to expect from this mickey mouse organization.
Sounded like the Giants wanted to wrap him in bubble wrap to avoid injury by having him run scout team safety. Plus, to humiliate him. By asking for his release and getting it. Did he leave any money on the table? Other than potentially getting injured in practice this year and triggering his 23 million injury guarantee for 2025.
This couldn't look less like Wellington's old franchise. His boy is going to hear it within family conversations.
Daboll
got a call from ownership over this.
We'll see what's next but I would bet huge money a former Giant is hired this off-season and we hear quotes about Giants culture and all that. Idk if it's Belichick or as simple as a guy like Banks to consult.
We'll see what happens.
Oh and if the Titans fire their GM. While I'd have guessed he'd have to wait a few years, the Giants would definitely consider Maurice Carthon's son now.
Idk how or what but "Giants culture" quotes are coming
Daboll
got a call from ownership over this.We'll see what's next but I would bet huge money a former Giant is hired this off-season and we hear quotes about Giants culture and all that. Idk if it's Belichick or as simple as a guy like Banks to consult.
We'll see what happens.
Oh and if the Titans fire their GM. While I'd have guessed he'd have to wait a few years, the Giants would definitely consider Maurice Carthon's son now.
Idk how or what but "Giants culture" quotes are coming
According to the team website
The Giants did not save money by releasing him
Nor did they lose money
Nothing was changed in his contract
So released now or at the end of the season
No difference in money
I didn't see his speech til now.
I haven't been a fan. He looks comfortable and rocks like one game a year and the rest of the time he couldn't look more out of sorts.
That speech and all he's been through
that was great. What a classy move.
As any fan of any team with a persistent bad offensive line will tell ya- it's night n day difference when the QB often has time to throw.
Wherever he lands, I will totally mesh my prediction to his OL performance.
By many accounts he's a good guy and an intelligent guy. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he's paid pretty well to be a backup somewhere. His career trajectory lends to this too.
I haven't been a fan. He looks comfortable and rocks like one game a year and the rest of the time he couldn't look more out of sorts.
That speech and all he's been through
that was great. What a classy move.As any fan of any team with a persistent bad offensive line will tell ya- it's night n day difference when the QB often has time to throw.
Wherever he lands, I will totally mesh my prediction to his OL performance.
By many accounts he's a good guy and an intelligent guy. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he's paid pretty well to be a backup somewhere. His career trajectory lends to this too.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Not much doubt in my mind he’ll backup somewhere next year. Maybe even a bridge, surely he’s not much worse than Minshew, Winston, Mariotta, etc. Might even be a Geno smith, or Darnold type.I didn't see his speech til now.
I haven't been a fan. He looks comfortable and rocks like one game a year and the rest of the time he couldn't look more out of sorts.
That speech and all he's been through
As any fan of any team with a persistent bad offensive line will tell ya- it's night n day difference when the QB often has time to throw.
Wherever he lands, I will totally mesh my prediction to his OL performance.
By many accounts he's a good guy and an intelligent guy. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he's paid pretty well to be a backup somewhere. His career trajectory lends to this too.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
It's like people didn't watch Jones in NY.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I think the Riders will pick him up
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
Thread title needs to be updated: Safety Daniel Jones, FA
Statorama
gangster
Statorama
gangster
Would have been awesome if he fell down while running scout team safety and yelled "OW MY ACHILLIES!!!!"
Then jumped up and did the Rod Tidwell
Insein
Footballguy
I could see Shanahan seeing him and thinking "I can fix him"
There is zero reason he can't be the next Geno/Baker/Darnold or whomever. I thought he was legit good in 2022, and honestly I'm expecting the Giants to be noticeably worse with Devito. That's not me saying Jones is a good QB, but I think he's 100% an NFL QB. He might be more in the Fitzpatrick level journeyman type category. I'd be thrilled to have him as a backup if I ran a team.
As for teams that could/should pick him up, I'd say any team that either A) doesn't have a sure starter right now, or B) A contender who is very thin at backup QB.
Teams that fit column A include:
Jacksonville (assuming Lawrence gets the surgery and is done for the year)
Las Vegas
Dallas
Teams that fit column B include:
Baltimore (his rushing ability makes for a nice fit behind Lamar)
LA Chargers (better than Heinicke, and probably a decent fit for a Greg Roman offense)
San Francisco (better than Allen/Dobbs, similar path got Darnold another shot)
2 darkhorse candidates that don't fit either category but would likely be good landing spots for Jones if he's a longterm backup:
Miami (an NFL QB behind Tua, who can at least not crater an offense)
Minnesota (better than Mullens, and Darnold likely walks this offseason. Bridge/backup to McCarthy?)
Personally, if I were Jones (and this assumes he clears waivers, as he should given his contract) I'd want someone from column B.
As for teams that could/should pick him up, I'd say any team that either A) doesn't have a sure starter right now, or B) A contender who is very thin at backup QB.
Teams that fit column A include:
Jacksonville (assuming Lawrence gets the surgery and is done for the year)
Las Vegas
Dallas
Teams that fit column B include:
Baltimore (his rushing ability makes for a nice fit behind Lamar)
LA Chargers (better than Heinicke, and probably a decent fit for a Greg Roman offense)
San Francisco (better than Allen/Dobbs, similar path got Darnold another shot)
2 darkhorse candidates that don't fit either category but would likely be good landing spots for Jones if he's a longterm backup:
Miami (an NFL QB behind Tua, who can at least not crater an offense)
Minnesota (better than Mullens, and Darnold likely walks this offseason. Bridge/backup to McCarthy?)
Personally, if I were Jones (and this assumes he clears waivers, as he should given his contract) I'd want someone from column B.
Riffraff
Footballguy
Philly and Buffalo both could use a dual threat back-up for the play-offs.
I think Buffalo for whatever reason really likes Trubisky.
Philly would be fun, especially since they play the Giants in week 18, and could be potentially resting Hurts that week.
kylechoffman
Footballguy
Sign with the Cowboys on a performance based contract for one game (Thanksgiving). Based on the outcome, go from there. Would create more entertainment in a game that needs it given the starters.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Wonder how Malik Nabers is feeling...
Riffraff
Footballguy
He immediately hurt his groin today. {insert the old 'ow my groin! joke here}
I was under the impression that Reid really liked Wentz. Could have sworn he had a quote when they signed him, that they didn't understand why he wasn't a starter somewhere.
ChiefD
Footballguy
He may, but he's only on a one year contract for around $3.3 million.
If Wentz is happy at that number he may come back. But if he wants to start again maybe he leaves. So in that scenario maybe the Chiefs look at Jones. He's a pretty mobile guy that has shown some skill. If the Chiefs can trim a million or so off their cap at the QB position they would do it.
Of course that assumes Jones would come in at a lower number than that. He probably wouldn't.
Stinkin Ref
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I mean it can't get much worse for him right.....as a Nabers owner in a ton of leagues.....while my gut says I would have liked to see Lock instead....I could see Tommy's boys saying, "hey bruh, get it to that guy as much as possible"....I look at this and maybe even a move to Lock at some point as a positive....at least thats why I'm trying to sell myself...
yeah but it makes sense if you have no plans to play the guy to get rid of him. having a lame duck player hanging around who may or may not become a malcontent over losing his starting gig is probably a bad idea. and if he wants his release, just give it to him. At least the Giants are doing right by him in this respect. Having him play scout team safety is a bit demeaning and honestly dumb. if Jones got hurt doing it they'd be on the hook for (potentially) a whole lot more money than they are now.
and honestly, Daniel jones may be sad today, but hes truly better off getting away from this mickey mouse organization. Sticking around only hurts his career.
Yenrub
Footballguy
I think his dead cap hit (about 25 million) will be against the 2025 cap not the 2024 cap
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
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The Frankman
Footballguy
I mean, other than him being a patently horrible QB the last 3 years... incapable of going through progressions, slow to make reads, poor at calling protections, and his arm strength in decline...
other than that sure, he can have a revival!
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
maybe the reason that Lock got leap frogged is because they are trying to tank for @1 and they are worried that they might actually win with Lock.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I definitely see him landing in Las Vegas so they can take a look at him vs what they've seen there the last 2-3 seasons, maybe he be a bridge until they draft a better option
sho nuff
Footballguy
13 million or so if claimed off waivers (he won’t be). Then becomes free agent so whatever gets worked out in a contract. So probably a pretty minimal number.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Spoken like a man who's never seen Jones play.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I don't know if he'd want to go anywhere just to be a backup. I think with Vegas or Jacksonville he could be given the keys. Stafford still has 2 years on his contract, he could retire but maybe not? so I don't think he'd really want to do that. TN and Car seem like they may want to get in on it depending how comfortable they are with Levis/Young.
I think travdogg is correct here and he goes to Dallas, Las Vegas or Jacksonville for the playing time and then see who picks him up in FA next year.
I think travdogg is correct here and he goes to Dallas, Las Vegas or Jacksonville for the playing time and then see who picks him up in FA next year.
I heard it speculated on one of the radio talk shows that the Giants are trying to avoid several incentive bonuses from kicking in for Lock.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
Stay classy Giants
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Schoen was in between a rock and a hard place with Barkley because it doesn’t make sense for a bad team to give a big contract to a RB.
However, Schoen was a big reason why they were a bad team in the first place.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Commanders make s
Jones is probably an upgrade over Garoppolo anyway. DJ is a strong runner and has enough physical traits that make him appealing to see if you can get the switch to turn on mentally.
he needs someone to go to if and when stafford gets injured or retires. I think the other reason he didnt want Goff is because hed have to pay him. there is a large difference in terms of production between a Starter you dont want and a backup you dont want.
chances are good that Jones will need to unlearn some things he learned in New York. but he will be cheap and for that reason, he may be attractive to some teams.
if you need to pay him a starters salary that may be a different matter, but hes likely getting paid like a good backup if he signs somewhere. at that price he is worth the risk
Boston
Footballguy
I don't understand the point of this post.
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